Using the QB Score to Rank College Quarterbacks' Efficiency in 2011
There is no shortage of available methods for rating and comparing quarterbacks. The traditional quarterback efficiency rating has seen its fair share of criticism. The most common complaints about the quarterback efficiency rating are that it places too much emphasis on completion percentages and touchdowns and not enough emphasis on yardage gained. Worse yet, the measure does not take into account yards gained (or lost) on the ground, masking the effectiveness of QBs who run well or avoid sacks. While quarterbacks like Russell Wilson thrive under the traditional efficiency rating, prolific runners like Robert Griffin III become underrated (unless you happen to be a brilliant passer, like Robert Griffin III).
Sports economist and Utah State professor David Berri created an alternative formula that addresses some of the common criticisms lobbed at the passer efficiency rating. Berri calls his measure the QB Score and it looks like this:
QB Score = Total Yards - (3 x Plays) - (50 x Turnovers)
The traditional passer efficiency rating tends to take on a "more is better" approach: if players throw a bunch of TDs and hundreds of yards, they can get away with a fairly high turnover rate. Berri's measure has a different philosophy: if you generate yards and avoid turnovers, you will be rewarded. As we will see, comparing the two is an interesting endeavor.
In his book The Wages of Wins, Berri and several other economists break down several other player efficiency stats in a variety of sports. If you're interested in this topic, it's a worthwhile read.
I decided to use this QB Score to rank collegiate quarterbacks based on their 2011 performances.
| Top 5 QB Scores | ||
| Player | QB Score | Efficiency Rating |
| 1. Case Keenum, Houston | 3436 | 174.0 (5th) |
| 2. Robert Griffin, Baylor | 2949 | 189.5 (2nd) |
| 3. Chandler Harnish, Northern Illinois | 2561 | 153.0 (24th) |
| 4. Geno Smith, West Virginia | 2256 | 152.6 (26th) |
| 5. Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State | 2232 | 159.8 (12th) |
By looking at the top-5, it becomes clear how the QB Score differs from the traditional passer efficiency rating. Keenum and Griffin are excellent quarterbacks no matter how you asses their stats, but Chandler Harnish and Geno Smith provide two different examples of how the QB Score gives credit to players who efficiently rack up yards while minimizing turnovers, no matter how many TDs they score. Harnish is arguably the second-best dual-threat QB in the nation after Robert Griffin III. He quietly amassed over 3200 passing yards (28TD-6 int) and nearly 1400 rushing yards (11TDs). Smith, meanwhile, didn't necessarily score many touchdowns (31TD-7int), but he took care of the ball and generated over 4200 passing yards on a solid 8.3 yards per passing attempt.
After the jump we calculate the QB Score for over 175 of the nation's top quarterbacks--everyone from the Pac-12 to the SEC to the Sun Belt conference. How did your favorite QB measure up?
Before we look at the rankings within each conference, let's get a better intuition for how this measure differs from traditional efficiency. As you may have noticed from the top five in QB score, you can build up a decent QB score without having an elite passing efficiency rating (though it certainly doesn't hurt). Those players simply take care of the ball and generate plenty of positive yardage. You can however, have a decent passing efficiency rating coupled with a mediocre QB score. Those players tend to have turnover issues. Nothing hurts the QB score more than turnovers. Players who turn the ball over at high rates can have okay efficiency ratings, but they tend to have awful QB scores (see Jacory Harris every year in his career until 2011).
In case you're wondering, this is the formula for that traditional collegiate quarterback efficiency rating.
That's not the prettiest or most intuitive formula, but it could be worse. If you want the urge to gouge out your eyes, go here to take a look at the NFL formula.
Comparing the two scores with words and formulas is nice, but pictures really help tell the story. Let's look at a plot of QB scores plotted against passer efficiency ratings. The SBN-autosized image is a bit tough to read, so go here for a massive 1920x963 version. (Note: I calculated QB Scores for quarterbacks with 50 or more passes).
The correlation between the two measures is fairly strong (.734). But as we have already seen, players can have a spectacular rating one category while having "only" a great rating in another. The average QB Score for everyone in our sample is 711 while the average efficiency rating is 127.9.
If we break it up into quadrants, we can see which types of QBs fall into which sections. Naturally, QBs want to be in the upper right and avoid the lower left. But whether it is preferable to be in the upper left or lower right is debatable. The QB score favors those towards the right while the passer efficiency rating favors those towards the top.
Now, let's look at each conference starting with our own Pac-12:
Pac-12
| Pac-12 | ||
| Player | QB Score | Efficiency Rating |
| Andrew Luck, Stanford | 1814 (10th) | 169.7 (6th) |
| Matt Barkley, USC | 1770 (11th) | 161.2 (10th) |
| Nick Foles, Arizona | 1722 (14th) | 145.6 (38th) |
| Brock Osweiler, ASU | 1679 (15th) | 140.5 (49th) |
| Darron Thomas, Oregon | 1432 (24th) | 158.7 (15th) |
| Keith Price, Washington | 1269 (34th) | 161.9 (9th) |
| Zach Maynard, Cal | 1031 (49th) | 127.0 (95th) |
| Tyler Hansen, Colorado | 969 (53rd) | 125.5 (104th) |
| Marshall Lobbestael, WSU | 931 (56th) | 138.3 (57th) |
| Kevin Prince, UCLA | 820 (70th) | 135.3 (68th) |
| Sean Mannion, OSU | 723 (81st) | 127.1 (94th) |
| Richard Brehaut, UCLA | 572 (92nd) | 135.9 (66th) |
| Connor Halliday, WSU | 405 (105th) | 156.6 (18th) |
| Jordan Wynn, Utah | 198 (133rd) | 123.2 (112th) |
| Jon Hays, Utah | 155 (142nd) | 124.4 (110th) |
I am not surprised to see Luck and Barkley at the top of the rankings (both nationally and within conference). What does surprise me is that Nick Foles and Brock Osweiler were 14th and 15th in the national rankings. Each passed for over 4000 yards and over 7.7 yards per attempt. While some might criticize their 2:1 TD to interception ratios, each had interception rates on par with Andrew Luck (about 1 interception per 40 passes). While Barkley does not rack up yardage as efficiently as Luck, Barkley, and Foles, he has a much better turnover rate (1 interception per 65 passes).
Next up are Darron Thomas and Keith Price who are good passers (indicated by their passer efficiency ratings). The primary reason their QB Scores are not higher is due to a large number of running plays that do not complement their efficient passing. If you can average 7 or 8 yards per rush (as Chandler Harnish did), you'll give a big boost to your QB score. Otherwise, running for short yardage will not necessarily help.
After Price is a big drop off and a familiar face, Zach Maynard. While Maynard had several turnovers, his decent yards-per-passing-attempt allowed him to maintain a respectable QB Score. His limited number of TDs and high interception rate really hurt his QB efficiency rating, however.
The bottom half of the chart is filled out with Pac-12 basement dwellers (how did we lose to UCLA again? wait, don't remind me)...except Utah. It is truly remarkable that the conference's worst passing team managed to finish 8-5. Give credit to that solid Utah defense.
In the plot below I have only included Pac-12 quarterbacks. Overall, the Pac-12 was above average in its quarterbacking in 2011.
Now, for the rest of the conferences.
ACC
| ACC | ||
| Player | QB Score | Efficiency Rating |
| Tahj Boyd, Clemson | 1523 (21st) | 141.2 (46th) |
| Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech | 1350 (29th) | 135.5 (67th) |
| Tanner Price, Wake Forest | 1164 (37th) | 132.8 (77th) |
| EJ Manuel, Florida State | 1154 (39th) | 151.2 (28th) |
| Bryn Renner, North Carolina | 1127 (41st) | 159.4 (13th) |
| Jacory Harris, Miami | 1065 (44th) | 150.6 (29th) |
| Tevin Washington, Georgia Tech | 1060 (47th) | 155.4 (19th) |
| Michael Rocco, Virginia | 873 (64th) | 127.1 (93rd) |
| Mike Glennon, North Carolina | 817 (71st) | 136.4 (64th) |
| Sean Renfree, Duke | 807 (72nd) | 125.7 (102nd) |
| C.J. Brown, Maryland | 381 (110th) | 98.7 (163rd) |
| Chase Rettig, Boston College | 352 (114th) | 112.4 (133rd) |
| Danny O'Brien, Maryland | 308 (124th) | 109.6 (143rd) |
| Clint Trickett, Florida State | 183 (136th) | 160.8 (11th) |
| Anthony Boone, Duke | 86 (152nd) | 106.3 (152nd) |
| David Watford, Virginia | -97 (172nd) | 82.4 (171st) |
Tahj Boyd had a breakout year and posted the highest QB Score in the ACC.
One interesting detail is that Bryn Renner was 13th in the nation in QB efficiency, but his QB score was only 41st. Like Keith Price and Darron Thomas in the Pac-12, he had fantastic passing stats (3086 yards, 8.8 YPA), but his score was dragged down by inefficient production on the ground. Renner ran for -88 yards on 57 attempts (26 of which were sacks).
After three years of terrorizing Miami fans with ill-timed interceptions, Jacory Harris finally kept his turnovers in check (except for that 4-interception bowl game). As a result, he managed to put together a decent QB Score.
The bottom third of this list is really bad. Clint Trickett is an outlier because he saw limited action filling in for an injured EJ Manuel. Otherwise, the bottom is filled with some pretty terrible quarterbacking. Fortunately, most of the worst scores came from backup players. Boston College (Chase Rettig) and Maryland (Danny O'Brien) weren't so lucky.
That's a large number of quarterbacks occupying the danger zone: the bottom left quadrant of the chart.
Big 10/11/12
| Big 10 | ||
| Player | QB Score | Efficiency Rating |
| Russell Wilson, Wisconsin | 2094 (6th) | 191.8 (1st) |
| Kirk Cousins, Michigan State | 1409 (25th) | 145.1 (40th) |
| James Vandenberg, Iowa | 1287 (33rd) | 138.4 (55th) |
| Denard Robinson, Michigan | 1162 (38th) | 139.7 (52nd) |
| Taylor Martinez, Nebraska | 1135 (40th) | 126.5 (98th) |
| Dan Persa, Northwestern | 930 (57th) | 154.8 (20th) |
| Nathan Scheelhaase, Illinois | 888 (63rd) | 133.4 (73rd) |
| Marqueis Gray, Minnesota | 825 (69th) | 114.5 (127th) |
| Caleb TerBush, Purdue | 744 (78th) | 130.7 (85th) |
| Braxton Miller, Ohio State | 726 (80th) | 138.4 (56th) |
| Kain Colter, Northwestern | 626 (87th) | 157.7 (17th) |
| Matthew McGloin, Penn State | 544 (94th) | 118.3 (122nd) |
| Tre Roberson, Indiana | 310 (123th) | 111.0 (138th) |
| Edward Wright-Baker, Indiana | 300 (126th) | 119.4 (117th) |
| Joe Bauserman, Ohio State | 146 (145th) | 111.4 (136th) |
| Dusty Kiel, Indiana | 417 (154th) | 100.9 (159th) |
| Max Shortell, Minnesota | 28 (160th) | 101.0 (158th) |
| Robert Marve, Purdue | 20 (161st) | 107.7 (148th) |
| Rob Bolden, Penn State | -119 (174th) | 76.4 (174th) |
| Reilly O'Toole, Illinois | -123 (175th) | 86.5 (169th) |
I don't even know what to call this conference. I kept mixing up Big 10 teams with Big 12 teams because the Big 10 now has 12 members and the Big 12 now has 10 members. And don't even get me started on that "Leaders" and "Legends" nonsense...
Russell Wilson may have set the single-season record for highest efficiency rating, but that was not enough to ensure a top-5 QB Score! While he averaged an unbelievable 10.3 yards per passing attempt, he "only" averaged 4.3 yards per rushing attempt. With half as many rushing attempts (and half as many rushing yards), he would have climbed up to 4th overall. You can't massage his stats enough to get him a top-3 finish though. I suppose he'll just have to settle for the NCAA record instead...
Most of the conference's starters are right around the middle of the pack in terms of QB Scores.
Cal fans, do you feel less concerned about facing Braxton Miller and Ohio State next season? He runs like the wind, but he passes like a blindfolded Brock Mansion.
Russell Wilson was head and shoulders (and then some) above the rest of the Big Ten QBs in 2011.
Big-12
| Big 12 | ||
| Player | QB Score | Efficiency Rating |
| Robert Griffin, Baylor | 2949 (2nd) | 189.5 (2nd) |
| Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma St | 2232 (5th) | 159.8 (12th) |
| Landry Jones, Oklahoma | 1907 (7th) | 141.6 (45th) |
| Seth Doege, Texas Tech | 1645 (17th) | 138.9 (53rd) |
| Ryan Tannehill, Texas A & M | 1533 (20th) | 133.2 (75th) |
| James Franklin, Missouri | 1517 (22nd) | 139.9 (51st) |
| Collin Klein, Kansas State | 3059 (55th) | 125.6 (103rd) |
| Jared Barnett, Iowa State | 366 (113th) | 99.4 (161st) |
| Case McCoy, Texas | 327 (120th) | 131.9 (79th) |
| Steele Jantz, Iowa State | 156 (141st) | 106.8 (151st) |
| Jordan Webb, Kansas | 145 (146th) | 126.7 (97th) |
| David Ash, Texas | 41 (157th) | 107.4 (150th) |
This is the conference of excellent and terrible quarterbacks; there is not much in between.
Surprising no one, Robert Griffin III leads the pack, followed closely by Brandon Weeden.
What may surprise some is that Landry Jones finished 7th overall. He passed for almost 4500 yards, but his efficiency rating suffered due to a lack of TDs. The Oklahoma offense may have been incompetent in the red zone during the second half of the season, but that had little effect on Jones' QB Score.
I'd poke some fun at Texas because David Ash finished last...but then I would remember who quarterbacked Texas to a bowl game victory over Cal. Feels bad man.
Robert Griffin and Brandon Weeden lead the way.
Big East
| Big East | ||
| Player | QB Score | Efficiency Rating |
| Geno Smith, West Virginia | 2256 (4th) | 152.6 (26th) |
| B.J. Daniels, South Florida | 1364 (27th) | 126.7 (96th) |
| Ryan Nassib, Syracuse | 834 (67th) | 129.9 (87th) |
| Zach Collaros, Cincinatti | 60 (91st) | 131.6 (82nd) |
| Tino Sunseri, Pittsburgh | 535 (95th) | 124.1 (111th) |
| Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville | 440 (102nd) | 132.4 (78th) |
| Johnny McEntee, UConn | 392 (108th) | 111.3 (137th) |
| Chas Dodd, Rutgers | 341 (116th) | 18.5 (120th) |
| Munchie Legaux, Cincinatti | 263 (127th) | 109.0 (144th) |
| Will Stein, Louisville | 252 (128th) | 141.2 (47th) |
| Gary Nova, Rutgers | 239 (129th) | 116.6 (124th) |
| Bobby Eveld, South Florida | -59 (168th) | 92.6 (167th) |
Ah, the Big East: that conference whose status as a BCS league remains a mystery to the rest of us.
Unfortunately for the Big East, West Virginia will be taking its talents to the Big 12. If not for Geno Smith, the Big East would have a pretty sorry bunch of QBs. B.J. Daniels did fairly well, but I see a large number of triple digit rankings below him.
What the Big East lacks in efficient QBs, it makes up for with some pretty good names. I'm looking at you, Munchie Legaux.
I see several quarterbacks towards the bottom left part of this graph...
SEC
| SEC | ||
| Player | QB Score | Efficiency Rating |
| Tyler Wilson, Arkansas | 1841 (9th) | 148.4 (32nd) |
| A.J. McCarron, Alabama | 1288 (32nd) | 147.3 (35th) |
| Aaron Murray, Georgia | 1082 (43rd) | 146.4 (36th) |
| Tyler Bray, Tennessee | 794 (73rd) | 144.8 (41st) |
| John Brantley, Florida | 779 (76th) | 140.8 (48th) |
| Connor Shaw, South Carolina | 704 (82nd) | 148.3 (33rd) |
| Jarrett Lee, LSU | 622 (88th) | 152.0 (27th) |
| Jordan Rodgers, Vanderbilt | 445 (101st) | 135.1 (70th) |
| Tyler Russell, Mississippi St | 393 (107th) | 135.1 (70th) |
| Jordan Jefferson, LSU | 375 (11th) | 138.7 (54th) |
| Barrett Trotter, Auburn | 337 (117th) | 129.2 (88th) |
| Randall Mackey, Ole Miss | 328 (119th) | 118.4 (121st) |
| Chris Relf, Mississippi St | 198 (132nd) | 121.5 (113th) |
| Clint Moseley, Auburn | 170 (140th) | 133.1 (76th) |
| Justin Worley, Tennessee | 150 (144th) | 110.4 (142nd) |
| Stephen Garcia, South Carolina | 109 (148th) | 107.7 (147th) |
| Maxwell Smith, Kentucky | -9 (164th) | 103.3(155th) |
| Morgan Newton, Kentucky | -41 (165th) | 93.1 (166th) |
| Matt Simms, Tennessee | -63 (169th) | 77.1 (173rd) |
| Larry Smith, Vanderbilt | -110 (173rd) | 104.6 (153rd) |
| Zack Stoudt, Ole Miss | -313 (177th) | 79.6 (172nd) |
From the conference who cannot convince us that it is any good to the conference that cannot stop telling us how great it is.
The SEC has some decent QBs, but it is outclassed by the Big 12 and Pac-12. Tyler Wilson leads the way while A.J. McCarron and Aaron Murray also post respectable scores. I admit, I did not know the name of Alabama's starting QB until I compiled these rankings. I watched a few Alabama games too!
Look at all those triple digit rankings! It must be that SEC DEFENSE, right?
The left side of that chart looks pretty crowded. Oh right, SEC DEFENSE!
Non-AQ Conferences
Conference USA
| Conference USA | ||
| Player | QB Score | Efficiency Rating |
| Case Keenum, Houston | 3436 (1st) | 174.0 (5th) |
| Austin Davis, Southern Miss | 1543 (19th) | 138.2 (59th) |
| G.J. Kinne, Tulsa | 1350 (30th) | 147.4 (34th) |
| Jeff Godfrey, UCF | 1024 (50th) | 140.5 (50th) |
| J.J. McDermott, Southern Miss | 1013 (51st) | 128.2 (91st) |
| Jonathan Perry, UAB | 760 (77th) | 120.8 (115th) |
| Dominique Davis, ECU | 686 (83rd) | 131.5 (83rd) |
| Ryan Griffin, Tulane | 618 (89th) | 112.8 (131st) |
| Taylor Reed, Memphis | 475 (97th) | 113.9 (129th) |
| Nick Lamaison, UTEP | 465 (98th) | 131.2 (84th) |
| Rakeem Cato, Marshall | 125.8 (100th) | 125.8 (100th) |
| Blake Bortles, UCF | 419 (103rd) | 153.9 (21st) |
| Cotton Turner, Houston | 407 (104th) | 159.2 (14th) |
| Nick Fanuzzi, Rice | 390 (109th) | 116.8 (123rd) |
| A.J. Graham, Marshall | 322 (122nd) | 135.0 (71st) |
| Taylor McHargue, Rice | 181 (137nd) | 118.6 (119th) |
| Bryan Ellis, UAB | 90 (151st) | 99.2 (162nd) |
| Carson Meger, UTEP | 50 (156th) | 110.5 (140th) |
| Andy Summerlin, Memphis | 34 (159th) | 85.5 (170th) |
| Javia Hall, UTEP | -68 (170th) | 72.0 (176th) |
Case Keenum, the most efficient QB in the nation, leads the pack here. Austin Davis and G.J Kinne also posted pretty good ratings. After that, no one stood out.
Case Keenum: he's off the charts (literally!)
Independents
| Independents | ||
| Player | QB Score | Efficiency Rating |
| Riley Nelson, BYU | 889 (62nd) | 152.9 (25th) |
| Tommy Rees, Notre Dame | 789 (74th) | 133.4 (74th) |
| Kriss Proctor, Navy | 459 (99th) | 125.4 (105th) |
| Jake Heaps, BYU | 197 (134th) | 111.0 (139th) |
Riley Nelson saved BYU's season and ended up topping the rankings among the independents.
Cal fans, aren't you glad Jake Heaps didn't transfer to Berkeley?
MAC
| Mid-American Conference | ||
| Player | QB Score | Efficiency Rating |
| Chandler Harnish, Northern Illinois | 2561 (3rd) | 153.0 (24th) |
| Tyler Tettleton, Ohio | 1727 (13th) | 148.9 (31st) |
| Alex Carder, Western Michigan | 1553 (18th) | 145.3 (39th) |
| Zac Dysert, Miami (Ohio) | 1359 (28th) | 143.8 (43rd) |
| Terrance Owens, Toledo | 1268 (35th) | 169.2 (7th) |
| Ryan Radcliff, Central Michigan | 968 (54th) | 128.8 (89th) |
| Matt Schilz, Bowling Green | 928 (58th) | 137.6 (61st) |
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Keith Wenning, Ball State |
900 (61st) | 125.1 (106th) |
| Chazz Anderson, Buffalo | 840 (66th) | 111.9 (135th) |
| Alex Gillett, Eastern Michigan | 789 (75th) | 135.1 (69th) |
| Chris Coyer, Temple | 668 (84th) | 177.4 (3rd) |
| Austin Dantin, Toledo | 646 (86th) | 149.7 (30th) |
| Chester Stewart, Temple | 331 (118th) | 143.4 (44th) |
| Spencer Keith, Kent State | 179 (138th) | 100.8 (160th) |
| Clayton Moore, Akron | 137 (147th) | 96.3 (165th) |
| Mike Gerardi, Temple | 92 (150th) | 119.1 (118th) |
| Patrick Nicely, Akron | -51 (166th) | 75.6 (175th) |
I had never heard of Chandler Harnish until I put together the QB Score rankings after the 2010 season. He ended up finishing in the top-5 nationwide last year. I am not surprised he accomplished the feat again this season. Few teams would be disappointed with his passing stats: 3216 yards, 8.4 ypa, 28 TDs, 6 interceptions. Add in his rushing stats and you have one of the best QBs in the nation: 1379 yards, 11 TDs and a ridiculous 7.1 yards per carry. I would be thrilled to have a QB who passes that well and a RB who runs that well. Both in one package? One of the best players in the nation--easily.
The rest of the MAC QBs were no slouches, either. Ohio, Western Michigan, Miami (Ohio), and Toledo all had excellent quarterback play. In fact, you could argue that these QBs played better than most SEC quarterbacks. Oh right, SEC DEFENSE.
That's an impressive collection of QBs. Although he posted a brilliant efficiency rating, Chris Coyer's sample size was too small to generate a good QB Score. Watch out for him next year, though, as he replaces the senior Chester Stewart. With 9.26 yards per passing attempt and 8.1 yards per rushing attempt, he could be next year's Chandler Harnish.
MWC
| Mountain West Conference | ||
| Player | QB Score | Efficiency Rating |
| Kellen Moore, Boise St | 1889 (8th) | 175.2 (4th) |
| Casey Pachall, TCU | 1389 (26th) | 158.0 (16th) |
| Ryan Lindley, San Diego St | 1257 (36th) | 125.7 (101st) |
| Brett Smith, Wyoming | 1120 (42nd) | 124.6 (109th) |
| Tim Jefferson Jr., Air Force | 832 (68th) | 153.4 (23rd) |
| B.R. Holbrook, New Mexico | 345 (115th) | 112.4 (134th) |
| Tarean Austin, New Mexico | 323 (121st) | 108.7 (145th) |
| Pete Thomas, Colorado St | 220 (131st) | 116.1 (125th) |
| Garrett Grayson, Colorado St | 63 (153rd) | 108.0 (146th) |
| Caleb Herring, UNLV | -53 (167th) | 102.8 (156th) |
Is anyone surprised that Kellen Moore tops the MWC?
Case Pachall did a fantastic job replacing Andy Dalton.
Ryan Lindley and Brett Smith certainly appreciate being ranked among the top-50 in QB score instead of outside the top-100 with the efficiency rating.
Sun Belt
| Sun Belt | ||
| Player | QB Score | Efficiency Rating |
| Blaine Gautier, Louisiana-Lafayette | 1758 (12th) | 153.6 (22nd) |
| Ryan Aplin, Arkansas State | 1465 (23rd) | 133.6 (72nd) |
| Wesley Carroll, FIU | 1054 (48th) | 131.8 (80th) |
| Corey Robinson, Troy | 921 (60th) | 126.3 (99th) |
| Kolton Browning, Louisiana-Monroe | 840 (65th) | 114.4 (128th) |
| Derek Thompson, North Texas | 606 (90th) | 121.0 (114th) |
| Logan Kilgore, Middle Tennessee | 546 (93rd) | 119.7 (116th) |
| Kawaun Jakes, Western Kentucky | 371 (112th) | 115.1 (126th) |
| Jeff Murphy, Middle Tennessee | 225 (130th) | 110.4 (141st) |
| Jake Medlock, FIU | 188 (135th) | 124.8 (107th) |
| Cody Wells, Louisiana-Monroe | 93 (149th) | 128.5 (90th) |
| Andrew McNulty, North Texas | 37 (158th) | 107.6 (149th) |
| Chris Masson, Lousiana-Lafayette | -85 (171st) | 96.8 (164th) |
| Graham Wilbert, FAU | -410 (178th) | 91.7 (168th) |
Other than Blaine Gautier and Ryan Aplin, I don't know who any of these people are.
Graham Wilbert posted the worst QB Score of anyone in our rankings! Better luck next year.
WAC
| Western Athletic Conference | ||
| Player | QB Score | Efficiency Rating |
| Derek Carr, Fresno St | 1657 (16th) | 144.5 (42nd) |
| Bryant Moniz, Hawaii | 1342 (31st) | 136.1 (65th) |
| Cody Fajardo, Nevada | 1063 (45th) | 138.2 (60th) |
| Matt Faulkner, San Jose St | 1060 (46th) | 131.6 (81st) |
| Matt Christian, New Mexico State | 979 (52nd) | 129.9 (86th) |
| Colby Cameron, Louisana Tech | 923 (59th) | 137.2 (63rd) |
| Tyler Lantrip, Nevada | 736 (79th) | 146.1 (37th) |
| Chuckie Keeton, Utah State | 667 (85th) | 137.4 (62nd) |
| Adam Kennedy | 516 (96th) | 169.0 (8th) |
| David Graves, Hawaii | 402 (106th) | 127.3 (92nd) |
| Andrew Manley, New Mexico State | 308 (125th) | 138.3 (58th) |
| Nick Isham, Louisana Tech | 170 (139th) | 112.8 (132nd) |
| Brian Reader, Idaho | 150 (143rd) | 103.6 (154th) |
| Shane Austin, Hawaii | 52 (155th) | 101.8 (157th) |
| Dasmen Stewart, San Jose St | 3 (162nd) | 62.7 (178th) |
| Travaugn Colwell, New Mexico State | -5 (163rd) | 124.7 (108th) |
| Taylor Davis, Idaho | -214 (176th) | 69.3 (177th) |
Our final conference is the wacky WAC.
Cal fans, the first name on that chart should look pretty familiar. Despite being stifled by the Cal defense, Derek Carr ended up having an excellent season. With the departure of Kellen Moore to the MWC, he filled in as the conference's best QB.
Bryant Moniz--who seems like he's in his 10th season at Hawaii--finished third in the conference.
While Graham Wilbert posted the worst QB Score in the nation, Taylor Davis had the worst combination of scores. Unfortunately, our rankings indicate that Davis was the worst QB in the nation. His only comfort is that Dasmen Stewart of San Jose State had the worst QB efficiency rating. Better luck next season, you two!
And that's all--the top 178 quarterbacks in the nation. Did you favorite QB do better or worse than you thought? Have you hopped aboard the QB Score bandwagon? Give us your thoughts and reactions in the comments.
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more yards, less turnovers?
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Feb 21, 2012 7:43 AM PST up reply actions
Great taste, less filling?
KEEP CALM
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Feb 21, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
It was my understanding there would be no math on CGB.
Interesting read. This metric does seem better than the traditional QB rating. W-L is a pretty good metric as well.
Costs STILL assessed against Twist
That's right
I’ll roll those out sometime in the near future
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Also.
It’s interesting that Berri seemed to use the concept for turnovers found in uAYA (that they count ~ -50 yards), but doesn’t use the concept for yards gained from TD’s. I like this number, but I like uAYA best.
By the way, last year I piggybacked a couple of articles (here, here, and here) using uAYA off your article last year. Appreciate the inspiration, and I’ve compiled all the data for 2011 as well, if you are interested.
Nice work
I’m impressed with the amount of depth you added onto the initial uAYA results.
I’m not sure which of the efficiency ratings I prefer. I like that the uAYA can be used for predicting the future, I like the simplicity of QB Score and its inclusion of rushing yardage, and I like that you don’t need a huge sample size to get a solid quarterback efficiency rating (though I am wary of basing too much off a couple games).
Thanks for offering the data, but I already have everything I need for the uAYA. Getting the data was so time-consuming last year that this year I decided to write up a script that automatically pulls all of ESPN’s QB data and turns it into a .csv, .txt, or .xls file. In the future if you don’t want to go through the work of pulling the data yourself, send me an email and I’d be happy to run the script, compile the data, and send it to you.
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by Berkelium97 on Feb 21, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
I did something similar for uAYA from cfbstats.com this year, although not as elegant.
The hardest part is doing the SOS adjustments. I might take you up on that offer in the future. Thanks.
Not that it really matters but...
UCF is in C*USA, not the Sun Belt.
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Also...
Kellen Moore played in the MWC this year, not the WAC
Fixed
Thanks for the corrections.
(even if it doesn’t matter where UCF plays)
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Great work.
I was a little surprised to see Denard Robinson lower than I thought, but I guess that would be the effect of all those turnovers.
Also, as noted above, Boise was in the Mtn West last year.
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Does the turnover factor in fumbles or is it just interceptions?
It counts fumbles too
But ESPN and CFBStats, for reasons beyond my comprehension, do not track fumbles. As a result, I don’t have fumble data for all of these players.
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I especially like your quatrants graph
Comparing the Efficiency rating vs QB score — particularly when you look at the bottom right quad with many yards/few touch downs. There aren’t any QBs in this range, because there shouldn’t be given the basic idea that if you gain yards, you increase likelyhood of touchdowns. The combination of the two scores really seems to bring out the tendencies of football, so maybe a combined score is really what is best.
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Very cool! Correction: Corey Robinson/Troy should be in Sun Belt not MAC
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Fixed
Good to know: I thought there were too many Ohio schools in the MAC.
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by Berkelium97 on Feb 21, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
It is still just a number.
While I appreciate the time and effort, and outside the box thinking, until there is a formula that accounts for win %, or at least points per game, any rating system will be just an number that can be manipulated to get a high score, but still come up short in the most important stat: wins.
At a minimum, I would like to see a third colum on the tables/charts that has teach team’s win % for 2011, so we can sort of see how a high score in either rating might corellate to winning.
I think the QB score puts too much emphasis on turnovers. Either reduce the factor or add a component for points scored.
Yes, turnovers are inherently bad, but they aren’t always negative. I have seen several games where one team turns the ball over only to have the other team do the same on the next play or two.
I can empathize
but I think it would be very difficult to find a metric that has a strong link between QB play and wins. After all, the QB is just one player in one phase of the game. Sure, he is probably the team’s most important player, but defense and special teams also play a big role in wins. To discount a QB because his team cannot play defense or kick a field goal seems unfair.
At the opposite end of the spectrum, you have teams like LSU or Utah who managed to overcome lackluster QB play and use a strong defense to bail out the offense. Should their QBs be rated higher because they have great defenses?
You might prefer the ultimate adjusted yards-per-attempt (uAYA) metric, which puts more of an emphasis on scoring and a little less on turnovers. I’ll compile those numbers sometime in the near future and put together another post like this one.
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by Berkelium97 on Feb 21, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Because the number is just a modified Total Yards number, adding W/L or TDs in a way that doesn't translate them into yards would totally ruin the number.
Like you said, giving a QB points for playing on a team with a good defense would defeat the purpose of ranking the QB’s.
Nice write-up Brekelium97.
One problem I have with the QB Score stat: It’s accretive over the course of a season, which means that it doesn’t work very well as a comparison metric for QBs who did not play exactly the same number of games. Simply dividing the QB score by # of games played would fix this (and maybe filtering out those who played fewer than say, 5 games).
Am I off base here? This would also explain some of the difference between the two stats for QBs like Darron Thomas and Keith Price, who both failed to play in every game.
I don't mean to impose...
This is a good observation
When players only see limited time, their QB Score suffers because it is intended to be used on an entire season’s worth of performances instead of a game or two. That is why Chris Coyer of Temple or Cotton Turner of Houston have excellent quarterback efficiency ratings, but lower QB Scores.
But this effect begins to taper off after someone has been involved in hundreds of plays. By the time someone has seen as much time as Keith Price and Darron Thomas, this effect is negligible.
Let’s compare Thomas, Barkley, and Price. With the Pac-12 Championship game and Rose Bowl, Oregon played 14 games. Thomas played in 13 of those. Washington played 13 games and although Keith Price played in every game, he missed some of the USC and Oregon State games. So let’s call that 12 games. Matt Barkley played 12 games with USC due to the bowl ban. So with one fewer game than Thomas and the same number of games as Price, Barkley still posted a much higher score than them. The reason Barkley posted better ratings is because he’s that much better than those guys. If Thomas or Price only played half the season, a comparison of their scores might not have much reliability. But because they played nearly a full season, it’s fair to compare them.
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You are certainly right that the effect is minimized over the course of many games. And holistically, the results do align themselves well with what I feel like I saw on the field. But when it comes specifically to ranking them, the differences probably amount to some decent sized changes in the rank order.
From the Pac-12 as evidenced above, Matt Barkley would be ranked above Luck on a per game basis at +147.5 versus Luck’s +139.53.
Also, the QB Score stat appears to be strongly influenced by the style of offense run by the QB. Specifically, the number of downfield pass plays run by the offense. (The argument can be made that a good QB will inherently have more of these plays, but we all know that someone like Luck played within his offense and did the most with the passing they did, whereas Keenum was allowed many more opportunities in his offense.) Which is all to say that, two QBs who average a similar positive QB score on a per play basis will likely be ranked closely in QB Rating, but QB score might rank them quite differently if one QB had 30% more attempts.
I don't mean to impose...
When I compute the uAYA ratings and put together those rankings, I’ll include the QB Scores (and respective rankings) with them. As it is focused on per-play (as opposed to aggregate, like the QB Score), the uAYA will speak to the issues you raise here (which are valid issues, undoubtedly).
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Interesting Stuff
And the way it ranked the QB’s in the Pac-12 more closely follows my estimation of their abilities than the traditional metric.
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Another correction
Keith Wenning played for Ball State not Bowling Green
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Corrected, thanks. The only thing I seem to know about the MAC is that Chandler Harnish is a fantastic quarterback.
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Open your eyes
The Oklahoma offense may have been incompetent in the red zone during the second half of the season, but that had little effect on Jones’ QB Score.
Blake Bell’s 13 rushing touchdowns, all in the second half of the season and all but one in the red zone, would like a word with you.
I'm just bitter
because I had Landry Jones on my fantasy team and his TD production ground to a halt halfway through the season.
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Should consider strength of schedule
There is a much greater disparity between college defenses than in the NFL.
The scoring used here is similar to judging 2 college football teams just based off of W/L instead of looking at their conference/strength of schedule.

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