Pac-12 Networks Ensure All Football & Men's Basketball Games Nationally Televised
Larry Scott is a college sports pioneer. In less than three years he's upgraded one of the worst TV contracts in the history of major conference sports to one of the best. This is what we all wanted from the beginning from the new leadership: A chance to watch every Pac-12 football and basketball game from everywhere. And it looks like we'll have that opportunity.
Most of the major details are covered in this New York Times article by Richard Sandomir, but here are the bullet points (which will be constantly updating as new details trickle in).
- It will launch approximately a year from now: August 2012. It's a 12 year deal.
- Its flagship will be one national network to be distributed to 40 million homes (out of 110+ mil that own TVs) subscribed to four cable operators (Time Warner, Comcast, Cox, Bright House). If you live outside a Pac-12 market, you will probably have to subscribe to a sports package and pay an extra fee, similar to the Big Ten Network.
- The Pac-12 does not give up equity. They keep all of it. Larry Scott should now be sent to negotiate all future hostage situations, including kidnappings and the debt crisis.
- The Pac-12 claims they're not done yet. There could be more coming down the road, perhaps with regards to digital/online distribution.
- Negotiations with satellite and telephone companies are underway, as well as other smaller cable companies scattered throughout the West Coast. For now you must be within the footprint of 1 of 4 partners to get the network until other carriage deals are reached.
- It's likely that he big Pac-12 games the conference reserved for itself from ESPN/FOX should ensure that demand will be high enough for the majority of cable providers will sign up for the conference, and the national demand could ensure the same from DirectTV and Dish. Just my thoughts on the issue.
- If you are verified with your provider, you should be able to watch it on any platform--TV, Internet, phone, iPad, holodeck...
- Six regional networks: Pac-12 Northern California (the one we're concerned with), Pac-12 Southern California, Pac-12 Washington, Pac-12 Oregon, Pac-12 Arizona, Pac-12 Mountain to be distributed to the various Pac-12 markets.
- The regional networks will carry all the national network programming, which includes the remaining 35 football and 100 men's basketball games not picked up on the ESPN/FOX contract and 40 women's basketball games.
- Hence if you live in a Pac-12 market, you should in theory be able to watch any Pac-12 football or men's basketball game. This presumes we don't follow the Big Ten Network model of broadcasting simultaneous sporting events, but I'd guess if Cal is playing at a high level in either sport, our chances of a national telecast would be very high on any given week (compared to now, where they are very, very low).
- At the worst (if we go back to sucking), we will be able to watch all Cal football and basketball games regionally, but I'd say even at the worst, at least 50% of our games will be national telecasts.
- Information relevant to local Cal fans via Jon Wilner: Comcast will carry Pac-12 Network in NorCal/Bay Area on Digital Starter (which is the most basic form of cable that includes ESPN/TNT and various other sports affiliates). Comcast will retain full "TV Everywhere" rights and have video on demand content (not much different from our current arrangement with CSN California).
- There will be 850 sporting events on TV, so the remaining 650 events will be mostly of the Olympic variety. For a school like Cal that has enjoyed great success in Olympic events, this is a positive development.
- 350 events will be nationally televised, which means half of the events will be of the non-revenue variety. The remaining 500 will be televised locally, so I'd estimate an extra 80 Cal Olympic regular season sporting events could be televised (which is a nice upgrade from ZERO).
- At the moment the network does not plan to broadcast high school football games. I'm guessing they'll be watching what the NCAA does with the Longhorn Network, and if it's perceived as permissible the conference will move forward.
- High definition telecasts will be a priority, and I'd presume all the football and basketball telecasts will be in HD.
- All 12 spring football games will be on the Pac-12 Networks. Cal spring football on TV, how sweet it is.
- Journalism schools from the Pac-12 conference members could be involved in broadcast productions. Talk about being proactive and leveraging our strong academic tradition!
- A Spanish-speaking version of the P12 network is possible, especially given the strong LA market.
I'm happy. I feel like I've got swag. Do you got swag?
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Swag-tastic.
Larry Scott has taken the single biggest Achiles’ heel of the conference and turned it into the Death Star. I want this guy arguing my next contract negotiation. I think the term of art is “GIT MONEY”
"Well, if that ain't a show, I'll kiss your ass." - Gov. Jim Folsom Sr. (D-AL), 1948-52
Sounds neat, but I won’t be happy until lawmakers successfully push for a-la-carte cable television.
… alternatively, I’d be happy with an Internet-only plan, provided the service is compatible with all 3 major operating systems (Windows, Mac, and Linux) and, optionally, digital-media receivers like Roku and Apple TV.
That would be nice (I wouldn’t mind such a plan), but I think it wouldn’t have meshed well with the older Pac-12 audiences that will be paying for these channels who only consume their sports content via the boob tube.
Maybe for the next deal (and this deal still might not be done).
by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 27, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought Tom Hansen was busy muttering to himself about kids these days and newfangled devices such as telephones, while drinking bourbon and kicking dandelions on a remote hillside.
I support the NBA player's union.
the telegram of the news has not arrived yet on his vacation house
by ximiankernel on Jul 27, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Now if he could just bring the tailgate party to my house....
……I wouldn’t need to go to games! Nicely done, Larry; nicely done.
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
doesn't do me any good
but that’s what I get for living outside a Pac 12 market and not subscribing to one of the 4 major carriers listed above.
Great for the conference, obviously, but until they get with Verizon, no net difference for me.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
So far, the conference has signed the cable operators Time Warner Cable, Comcast, Cox and BrightHouse to carry the networks, and expects to add satellite and telephone companies.
From the NY Times article
by HelloBowlesHall on Jul 27, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Re: Bowles
This is apropos to nothing, but I went by Bowles a couple of weekends ago on my way to check out the stadium’s progress. The dining hall at Bowles is now a rec room with a pool table and some other crap. What happened? Please don’t tell me they cut down the fork tree – I was hoping it would forever be a monument to Holmoe-fueled rage. On the bright side, a tetherball in the courtyard bore the graffito “Bowles Has Balls” – something lives on.
The last time I lived in Bowles was 1996 so I can’t say the current state of the world – they are much more … security aware … then back in my day so it’s not as easy to go roam through and see what’s going on.
The DC went away a while ago, after I graduated (wikipedia says 2001).
There is a alumni group trying to restore Bowles to an independent entity like I-house, but they’ve already given up on keeping the hall all-male so they’ve lost my vote of confidence. If you’re willing to give that up then there isn’t going to be much left of the original hall at the end of the process outside the building facade.
by HelloBowlesHall on Jul 28, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Honestly...
I was always more interested in getting into Stern as much as possible. I’m an alum of an all-boy high school, Loyola High in LA, so the last thing I wanted was to live in an all-men dorm in college. That said, I can respect the legacy, so keep the Bowles tradition alive!
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So if Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, and Texas A&M had joined us (or replace A&M with Utah),
we would have had Pac-16 Mountain, Pac-16 Oklahoma, and Pac-16 Texas?
Cal in Los Angeles
Let’s say Cal’s game isn’t broadcast nationally on Fox, ESPN, FX, or Pac-12 National and is only broadcast by Pac-12 NorCal. As a Cal fan that lives in a Pac-12 market (but not the one my team is in) won’t I have to do the same thing I do now, which is either buy a sports package or find a bar with a sports package that has CSN?
Obviously the odds of getting picked up nationally is better, but if that doesn’t happen I feel not much changes for my personal situation (one that is shared by many others).
Every football or basketball game will be broadcast on either Fox, ESPN, FX, or the Pac-12 National channel. The Pac-12 national channel content will be broadcast on each of the regional channels, therefore every Cal football or basketball game will be on either Fox, ESPN, FX, or the Pac-12’s regional channel.
I support the NBA player's union.
Yeah you’re right, I guess I missed that part. I guess I will only be missing out on the non-football and non-basketball stuff. It might be worth it to buy the sports pack to watch baseball, softball, swimming, and volleyball (also Rugby but that probably won’t be included).
by Mallrat92204 on Jul 27, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Rugby
The Pac-10/12 have pictures of the rugby team on their website . . . they may have a few matches on TV.
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by AndyHogan14 on Jul 28, 2011 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions
If they’re smart they’ll put on some Rugby considering how good Cal and Utah are. Since UCLA, Arizona, ASU, and Colorado are the only other Pac-12 member schools that compete, it might be pretty limited.
by Mallrat92204 on Jul 28, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Carriage vs BTN
Its flagship will be one national network to be distributed to 40 million homes (out of 110+ mil that own TVs) subscribed to four cable operators (Time Warner, Comcast, Cox, Bright House). If you live outside a Pac-12 market, you will probably have to subscribe to a sports package and pay an extra fee, similar to the Big Ten Network.
I thought the big carriage fight over the Big ten Network was to assure it wasn’t on a premium sports pack tier? Don’t you get it on ‘expanded basic’ or whatever with most cable/satellite systems?
Well, it says this....
Hence if you live in a Pac-12 market, you should in theory be able to watch any Pac-12 football or men’s basketball game.
But I think the word “national” was left out after “any,” although you wouldn’t need to be in a Pac-12 market if it were a national b’cast, so……..I don’t know.
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
“national” is redundant. All the football and men’s basketball games will be national telecasts. The big question is whether the local cable packages in Pac-12 markets are available in basic carriages (like Comcast’s Digital Starter).
by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 27, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure the BTN is not part of expanded basic sports packs outside of regional Midwest markets. You have to buy the premium pack.
by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 27, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
DirecTV
If you have DirecTV in Los Angeles, you get BTN with the most basic package. I know this probably doesn’t apply to non-satelite cable providers, but it could be another option to consider.
by Mallrat92204 on Jul 27, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
BTN's biggest fight was with the cable companies
But the point is that it took awhile for them to adapt. The fact that the cable companies are so willing to acquiesce to the P12 is a huge step forward. Something similar should hopefully happen with the satellite companies.
by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 27, 2011 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
different for cable / sat
I guess it’s only available to all subscribers w/o a Sports Pack on DirecTV? Just checked Comcast, didn’t realize how crappy their lower tier sports offerings were.
Let me see if I understand what this means for women’s basketball. It sounds like there will be 40 women’s games on the national channel, which comes out to about 3 1/2 games per team, although actually it might be closer to 5-6 per team, depending on how many of the games were Pac-12 teams playing each other. And additional women’s games would be part of the 650 hours of non-football / non-men’s basketball to be broadcast regionally? Is there any indication of whether all the women’s games will be broadcast,whether nationally or regionally? I would think women’s basketball would be one of the top choices to fill that 650 hours. (And wow, I have to think that having lots of women’s basketball, volleyball, and other men’s and women’s non-revenue sports on TV regularly will help Pac-12 a lot with recruiting in those sports as against other conferences.)
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I’m guessing that the majority of women’s games will be televised regionally as part of this deal.
And it’s also possible that the Pac-12 Digital Network (which is not part of this deal and still has yet to be announced) could also end up broadcasting the remainder of Olympic sporting events not covered within these 850 events.
by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 27, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Some Unsubstantiated Speculation
I figure the sports most prominently displayed on the regional channel would be:
Fall: Men’s/Women’s Soccer
Winter: Women’s Basketball/Volleyball/Men’s Rugby
Spring: Softball/Baseball
I support the NBA player's union.
When it comes to Rugby/Softball/Baseball for us…we’re going to have to upgrade heavily for them to be seen (softball and rugby specifically)
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by Joe Bandsmen on Jul 28, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I dig it!
Any news regarding who will be the commentary teams for the network?
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P12? I have no idea
But I assume with FSN’s deal ending, Tompkins and Petros (along with Physioc/Roth) will be logical candidates to take over some sort of duties there. Craig Bolerjack has replaced Tompkins this year (not sure why) as the FSN head man, so he’s also in the mix. Also Ron Thulin and Ted Robinson from Versus are distinct possibilities. Wouldn’t be surprised to see some Olympic analysts participate in the Olympic sports.
For the major networks, FOX/FX will be Gus Johnson, Charles Davies, and Tim Brewster this season, and I imagine that continuing next season.
by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 27, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
If the Pac-12 network is revolutionary for revenue sports
It’s an unfathomable leap. Every non-revenue sport should have a huge recruiting advantage, and this is the conference that was already the ‘Conference of Champions’ without the built in television advantage. And needless to say, it’s great for us fans who have been hungry for more content for years.
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Baseball? Softball? Spring Football?
Every men’s basketball/football game on national television? Larry Scott is a god . . .
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FAQ/101 on Conference Sports "Networks" Please?
Forgive me for being kind of clueless, but can someone explain what this means and how it will be different from the current setup?
The definition of “network” is obvious a bunch of BS. It used to mean a fixed channel, eons ago, in each geographic market. What the heck does it mean now? What is all this regional/national stuff?
Lastly, I am a Dish customer. What does this mean now, and what will it likely mean, since they are pursuing ‘other’ deals with satellite providers.
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