First Look: Cal-Texas Holiday Bowl Matchup

Much to the delight of Cal fans, the Bears are facing Mack Brown and the Texas Longhorns in the Holiday Bowl. Jeff Tedford made some comments about the matchup. A diplomat to the core, Tedford had kind things to say about Mack Brown and the Texas program.
On Texas head coach Mack Brown
"I've gotten to know Mack over the years. We've had chances to visit and hang out. I would call Mack a friend and somebody in the college profession whom I have visited with and spent time with."
On if he sees any similarities with Cal and Texas considering both schools were 5-7 in 2010
"I do. Uncharacteristically, we missed out on bowls last year. I don't know what Texas' run had been, but I know it was pretty extensive. I know we had been bowl eligible every year that we've been here. So now, we've been bowl eligible for nine of the last 10 years. It's great to be back and to be able to practice and compete against such a great team like Texas."
On the Holiday Bowl
"They've done a great job there. There is a great tradition of exciting games, and the city of San Diego does a great job of putting the games on. They run a first-class operation; they're very hospitable and great to our fans."
On playing Texas after the BCS Rose Bowl selection in 2004
"2004 is a long time ago. I don't remember much about it except for feeling like there was a great opportunity there. We all felt like we were going to the Rose Bowl. However it unfolded, we were left scratching our heads as to how that happened. But that was a long time ago. I felt bad for our team because I really felt like we deserved to be in the Rose Bowl that year, but we're in 2011 now and it is a whole different situation."
After the jump we take a quick look at the offense, defense, and special teams of the 7-5 Texas team that will represent the Big 12 in the Holiday Bowl.
Season in Review:
The Longhorns started the season 4-0 while rising to #11 before receiving a whuppin' from Oklahoma. After a subsequent loss to Oklahoma State, the Longhorns appeared to have turned the corner after routing Kansas and Texas Tech. They went to a run-heavy offense and piled up nearly 900 yards on the ground in those two midseason wins. Less reliant on shaky quarterbacks David Ash and Case McCoy, the Texas offense was humming. Texas endured a painful loss to Missouri when the Tigers shut down the Texas running game. While the Texas defense did its job over the next three games, the offense could not muster much of anything. The Longhorns finally put up some decent passing numbers in the season finale against Baylor, but the effort was marred by 4 interceptions and an inability to slow down Robert Griffin III.
Quarterbacks:
Since the departure of Colt McCoy after the 2009 season, Texas has struggled to sustain a competent passing game. The Longhorns have playing two quarterbacks this season: freshman David Ash and sophomore Case McCoy (yes, Colt's brother). Results have been mixed at best.
| NAME | CMP | ATT | YDS | CMP% | YDS/A | TD | INT | RAT |
| Case McCoy | 88 | 144 | 1034 | 61.1 | 7.18 | 7 | 4 | 131.9 |
| David Ash | 85 | 151 | 937 | 56.3 | 6.21 | 3 | 8 | 104.4 |
Despite starting the first game of the season for Texas, Garrett Gilbert was pulled during the BYU game and ultimately decided to transfer. Since then the job has gone back and forth between the sophomore McCoy and the freshman Ash. Most recently, Case McCoy was given the starting nod against Baylor because Ash could not take care of the football. McCoy then went out and threw four interceptions. Despite McCoy's struggles against Baylor, offensive coordinator Bryan Harsin remains committed to McCoy as the starter.
Passing yards per game: 193.6 (85th)
Passing efficiency: 120.76 (88th)
Yards per attempt: 7.0 (63rd)
Completion percentage: 57.5 (77th)
Sacks allowed per game: 2.17 (74th)
Running Backs:
While the Texas passing game has struggled, the run game had been explosive...until the top three RBs were injured last month.
| NAME | CAR | YDS | AVG | LONG | TD |
| Malcolm Brown | 159 | 707 | 4.4 | 27 | 5 |
| Joe Bergeron | 69 | 454 | 6.6 | 51 | 5 |
| Foswhitt Whittaker | 66 | 386 | 5.8 | 36 (TD) | 6 |
| D.J. Monroe | 47 | 326 | 6.9 | 51 | 1 |
| Marquise Goodwin | 20 | 187 | 9.4 | 31 | 0 |
| Cody Johnson | 43 | 179 | 4.2 | 55 | 5 |
Brown, Bergeron, and Whittaker all missed time over the final month of the season with injuries. Fozzie is out for the season with a torn ACL and MCL. Freshman Malcolm Brown is currently nursing a knee injury that does not appear to be serious. However, he has been hampered by turf toe since the Longhorns' win over Kansas and has not had the same explosive speed since. He should be available to play against Cal. Freshman Joe Bergeron sat out last weekend with a hamstring injury and it is unclear whether he will play in the Holiday Bowl. Fortunately for the Longhorns, they are deep at the running back position.
Rushing yards per game: 210.42 (19th)
Rushing attempts per game: 46.2 (11th)
Yards per attempt: 4.56 (36th)
Wide Receivers:
| NAME | REC | YDS | AVG | LONG | TD |
| Mike Davis | 45 | 609 | 13.5 | 56 | 1 |
| Jaxon Shipley | 40 | 593 | 14.8 | 78 | 3 |
| Marquise Goodwin | 30 | 372 | 12.4 | 80 (TD) | 1 |
| Foswhitt Whittaker | 16 | 145 | 9.1 | 26 (TD) | 1 |
| D.J. Grant | 13 | 143 | 11.0 | 45 (TD) | 3 |
| Blaine Irby | 10 | 127 | 12.7 | 41 (TD) | 3 |
With Texas' struggles in the passing game, it is no surprise that they have not had much production from their receivers. With Whittaker out for the season, Texas' running backs will be minimally involved with the passing game.
Defense
While the Texas offense has struggled this season, the defense has been fairly stout. ESPN's David Ubben--someone who has actually watched Texas--had this to say about their defense:
Linebackers Emmanuel Acho and Keenan Robinson were the solid anchors of the defense as expected. A solid secondary that refused to give up big plays flanked the pair. It kept opposing offenses from throwing a touchdown pass of longer than 20 yards until Robert Griffin III threw two in the season finale. Nobody in college football went longer, and with the caliber of quarterbacks across the Big 12, that's an amazing feat.
Points allowed per game: 23.3 (42nd)
Rushing yards allowed per game: 103.7 (11th)
Rushing yards per attempt allowed per game: 3.34 (19th)
Passing yards allowed per game: 211.7 (47th)
Opponents' passing efficiency: 111.9 (14th)
Opponents' yards per passing attempt: 6.0 (7th)
Sacks per game: 1.92 (61st)
Tackles for loss per game: 6.92 (29th)
Overall, these are pretty impressive. They shut down the run and are able to limit opposing QBs without necessarily getting a ton of pressure on them.
Special Teams and other assorted stats
Field goals: 17/20 (4/4 from 40-49, 1/2 from 50+)
Punting: 38.5 yards per punt (104th), average return of 8.5 yards (72nd)
Turnover margin: -5 (90th)
Penalties: 6.3 per game (70th), 56.0 yards per game (80th)
Red zone conversion: 73.47% (106th)
Red zone TD conversion: 51.02% (104th)
Justin Tucker serves as their kicker and punter. As a kicker, he is solid and has a strong leg (about 18% of his kickoffs are touchbacks). As a punter...well, that 38.5 yards per punt speaks for itself. When you add in the average return, Texas only pushes the opponent back an average of 30 yards on each punt. This type of punting game coupled with Texas' inconsistent offense does absolutely no favors for their defense.
Overall
Texas is not in the happiest place coming into this Bowl game. ESPN's HornsNation site says the Longhorns need to find an identity before the bowl game if Texas wants to finish the season on a high note.
Texas again will have to try to find its identity before it heads to Southern California or Tempe, Ariz., for a bowl game.
For a few weeks, it was thought this was a team dominated by running backs. All three one-time starters -- Fozzy Whittaker, Malcolm Brown and Joe Bergeron -- spent the last four games hurt.
During that stretch it was believed this team was a defensive juggernaut, so much so that defensive coordinator Manny Diaz's name was being bandied about for head coaching jobs. Again, Texas gave up 511 yards to Baylor.
Texas can't even lean on the image of its coach for an identity anymore. Brown's reputation has been damaged by these past two seasons. At no other time in his tenure would anyone even consider throwing out retirement rumors. Even before the Baylor loss, that was the situation for Brown.
"When I do retire, it won't come from a twit, uh Twitter, in Topeka, Kansas," he said.
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Interpreting Tedford
2004 is a long time ago. I don’t remember much about it except for feeling like there was a great opportunity there. We all felt like we were going to the Rose Bowl. However it unfolded, we were left scratching our heads as to how that happened. But that was a long time ago. I felt bad for our team because I really felt like we deserved to be in the Rose Bowl that year, but we’re in 2011 now and it is a whole different situation
Ever the diplomat who bends over backwards to never say anything in public that is potentially interesting controversial, Tedford (by my reading of the above quote) remains pissed about this. I don’t know if he’s peeved personally at Brown—and I suspect he is not—but it also does not appear like he’s put 2004 behind him. And the fact that this long-awaited vengeance game is taking place at the Holiday Bowl, where the victory over A&M only partially removed the bitter taste from the Texas Tech embarrassment, means this is going to be one very fired-up Cal team.
Go Bears!
Never one to supply blackboard material for the other team......
Should CGB make some “Smack Mack” t-shirts for the occasion???? : )
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
I do think this particular match-up means more to the fans (relatively). I doubt many of the players dislike Mack Brown for the 2004 shenanigans.
Anyway: Texas is a big-name opponent. This is what usually gets the players going (see: aTm, Miami)
Cal
Yeah, it probably does
I felt bad for our team because I really felt like we deserved to be in the Rose Bowl that year, but we’re in 2011 now and it is a whole different situation."
For the fans, it’s actually a very similar situation. We still haven’t been to the Rose Bowl in forever and a day. We’re still going to the Holiday Bowl. We still hate Texas.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Dec 5, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
I hope some part of him is still pissed
I hope a pissed Tedford comes up with a gameplan where we dominate and leave no doubt.
Agree
I think it would be a really “unclear on human nature” thing to not think that Tedford does not still harbor ill feelings about 2004… And one has to know, that every once in a while these past few years when things have not gone great he MUST think about how things may have been different had we played in the Rose Bowl that year.
PR vs Motivation
i bet this is not what he is going to tell our players during the week of practice and during the locker room pep talk.
He should have the top 2004 players (rodgers included) come and basically say to this new team… they screwed us… are you willing to redeem us? will you redeem us? will you make things right? do it.
Tedford speech should also start like this : That Coach of Texas is NOT my friend.
get off me bandwagoners!
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by cleancutmedia on Dec 5, 2011 9:11 AM PST up reply actions
Thank goodness Tosh is left to tell the tale himself—every day.
"Our hearts shall sing and our voices ring for the dear old Blue and Gold!"
by Joe Bandsmen on Dec 5, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I like Tedford's Comments on 2004 with one nit...
i would have liked this very small change
But that was a long time ago. I felt bad for our team and for our legion of fans because of what the Rose Bowl means to them and because I really felt like we deserved to be in the Rose Bowl that year, but we’re in 2011 now and it is a whole different situation."
“I’ve gotten to know Mack over the years. We’ve had chances to visit and hang out. I would call Mack a friend and somebody in the college profession whom I have visited with and spent time with.”
Tedford should choose his friends wisely.
At least one former player holds Mack accountable...
“@alpha1906 text from cal player now in nfl: let’s get him fired”
https://twitter.com/#!/MikeSilver/status/143737868911775744
Love it.
Who did Cal play in 2004 and how did it turn out?
After you answer that, ask yourselves…why am i complaining about 2004?
Where did Cal play in 2004/5?
FTFY
We could have been blown out by 30 against Michigan and we would not have cared at all. Instead we went to San Diego a day early, and it made all the difference.
"Our hearts shall sing and our voices ring for the dear old Blue and Gold!"
by Joe Bandsmen on Dec 5, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
We played lots of schools and beat most of them in 2004, and I am complaining because we should have gone to the fucking Rose Bowl.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Dec 5, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks for fixing it for me.
I was talking about your bowl game for the 2004/2005 season. Who did you play?
by Hippie Killer on Dec 5, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
Not Michigan, sadly.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Dec 5, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Troll:
One who posts comments to a thread or message board with the explicit intent of picking a verbal argument, or to insult the regular members of the community.
Congratulations. Your logic is so incredibly air-tight and flawless that you end up winning the Internets.
Enjoy your success.
Being an Old Blue means embracing the "meh".
Not a troll,
but a serious question. A point that is never raised. You guys had the opportunity after you were slighted to go and stick it to the team you were playing, and you didn’t. That’s all he’s saying.
No trolling.
by 40A on Dec 6, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
It’s been raised and answered several times already. We all acknowledge that we had a letdown against Texas Tech after being screwed out of the Rose Bowl. It’s regrettable, but it happens. It’s called human nature. It’s also been pointed out to you that the EXACT same thing happened to Texas in 2003, where they were dropped to a lower bowl than they were hoping for, came out flat in that bowl game, and lost to Washington State. It’s a lot easier for you Texas fans to shrug that off though, considering you’ve got multiple BCS and national championship appearances since then to console yourselves with. It’s not too hard to say “Oh well, that wasn’t our year, but hey, we went to the freaking Rose Bowl and won the national championship in the next two years”. Whereas 2004 was the closest we have ever, ever come to the promised land for a long time. Even when we won 10 games in 2006, we didn’t get to go to the Rose Bowl, because Desean Jackson’s shoe size was slightly too big. So, unlike you guys, who have a chance to go to a BCS game seemingly every other year, that was our one big opportunity, with one of the best teams we have ever had, and we missed out, so yeah, we’re plenty fucking bitter about it.
And yeah, we lost to Texas Tech… BFD. That’s totally beside the point.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Dec 6, 2011 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
It’s a lot easier for you Texas fans to shrug that off though, considering you’ve got multiple BCS and national championship appearances since then to console yourselves with
And that’s our fault? All I’m saying is you shouldn’t call troll when something of note is raised.
Be bitter, but place your blame elsewhere.
by 40A on Dec 6, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
We don’t blame you for our lack of success. We don’t even begrudge you your program’s rich success. We blame you for stealing our Rose Bowl. This isn’t rocket science here.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Dec 6, 2011 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
You don't.
I wouldn’t say “we” so loudly though, as that seems to be the sentiment all over this board, with the profanity and tacky t-shirts and all that.
The same one Texas lost to WSU in 2003 in…
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 5, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, talk about too little, too late.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Dec 5, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Well, in that case

One conference to rule them all. One conference to bore them.
One conference to annoy them all, and have ESPN whore them.
Texas will be a tough out
Their offense is sketchy, but they’ve got Bryan Harsin, the former Boise State offensive coordinator, and they run a lot of trickeration when they need to. I don’t think they can move the ball conventionally on us, but trick plays could be our downfall.
Their defense is very good. Their front 7 is deep, but their secondary is pretty young. They’re very fast and athletic, and pretty opportunistic when it comes to forcing turnovers. I’m not sure how we’ll move the ball on them.
should be a good game either way.
I am THE DOOMBRINGER. We Are Cal.
You won't have to worry about moving the ball on our defense.
Our offense will give you plenty of opportunities to score.
by Hippie Killer on Dec 5, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
I know
I watched enough of you guys this year to see that. we tend to do the same things in games we lose.
both teams are similar in that neither of us beat a team with a winning record. an epic clash of mediocrity!
I am THE DOOMBRINGER. We Are Cal.
well, call this the measuring stick game then
because after it, one of the teams will have beat one team with a winning record…
"Coach Mike Montgomery said the sophomore is not in trouble with the law and confirmed he will rejoin the team, adding it’s “unlikely” it will be as soon as Wednesday, when the Bears face San Jose State.
“He let his teammates down,” Montgomery said. “Kids are lazy and do stupid stuff. As an adult, as someone who’s supposed to help kids make the right decisions, I felt like I needed to take a stand on the thing.”
Old Toothwrangler
You shoulda swung by Berkeley and used your hippie-killing skills to solve this annoying tree sitter problem we had…
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Dec 5, 2011 11:24 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We have plenty of Hippies in Austin, TX too. Trust me.
Back in the day, you could handle these people with the fine art of Police Brutality but now even the Hippies have rights.
by Hippie Killer on Dec 5, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
I hate Mack Brown SO MUCH...
…its like…flames, flames….on…the side of my face.
I bet you look just like her too
or at least, dress like her
by Senator-Blutarsky on Dec 6, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
2004 response
Whenever an obnoxious horn fan (sorry to be redundant) asks what happened in the 2004 Holiday Bowl, remind them of the immediately preceding year.
In 2003, Texas had one loss (to OU) and was a shoo-in for a BCS bowl. Then, Kansas State pulled the upset in the big12 championship to earn the auto-bid. OU still got to play in the national championship game (which they lost) and Texas got dropped down to the Holiday Bowl. The horns were disappointed and played without passion against an inferior Washington State team who had nothing to lose.
They all chalked up that loss to the disappointment of being in a lesser bowl than the one their players expected. Odd, how that argument only works for them.
by Newellbany on Dec 5, 2011 11:58 AM PST reply actions 6 recs
Oh, I remember that.
Yeah, the Longhorns didn’t deserve to be in the National Championship Game in 2003 and we sure as hell played like it in the bowl game.
You won’t find anybody in Longhorn Nation who feels otherwise.
by Hippie Killer on Dec 5, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
I remember Aaron Rodgers doing some squeeling himself...
before having his ass handed to him in your bowl game.
We call this the “Mack Brown Curse” and it extends to other areas of the football as well.
You can say whatever you like about Coach Brown, but you would be hard pressed to find a coach who represents his school or his community in the manner Coach Brown does. I’m a big fan of Coach Tedford, but you wouldn’t be complaining if you had Mack Brown. Trust me.
So, when you talk shit about one of the classiest coaches in the history of the game, you automatically curse yourself. Which brings us full circle back to your bowl game in 2004. Rodgers cursed you and therefore, your loss to- correct me if I’m wrong- Texas Tech in the Cotton Bowl in 2004 was imminent.
by Hippie Killer on Dec 5, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
Rodgers cursed you and therefore, your loss to- correct me if I’m wrong- Texas Tech in the Cotton Bowl in 2004 was imminent.
You’re wrong. It was the very same Holiday Bowl that you are now about to play us in.
Also, let me just say, this curse talk is bullshit. I can’t wait for the game and I eagerly anticipate the Golden Bears doling out some well-deserved payback. The home-and-home will be fun, too :)
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Dec 5, 2011 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
Dude
You’re on our board. We can talk all the sh*t we want.
Now if we go over to your board and say “f*ck Mack Brown” that’s a different story. Otherwise zip it.
LOL - What is all the angst about 2003 and 2004?
Who gives a rats ass? We are talking THIS year. Both teams are playing in the “excuse me” bowl and both teams barely have a winning record.
Our excuse is many faceted – new offenseive system, new defensive system, new OC, new DC, 11 freshmen starters and 7 soph starters, a true freshman QB and a soph QB that shouldn’t be playing D1 ball, debilitating injuries to every skilled player that matters and, finally, playing in the Big 12.
OK, that’s us – what about you?
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
And, as far as Mack Brown, give me a break!
He did what the university paid him to do – promote his team. If he had been your head caoch and done the same thing for your team, none of you would have said a word.
Besides, it is history and it ain’t gonna change.
As far as hippies – UT has a liberal arts college that is probably bigger than Berkeley – that is where the “Keep Austin Weird” crap comes from. It sure doesn’t come from the rest of the university.
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
caoch = coach (remember, 3 out of 2 of us have dyslexia)
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
It can't be helped - I'm a Texan
It’s takes us a while to figure out what we just said.
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
LOL - spazzy are you capable of typing more than a truncated sentence?
Frankly, I don’t know what the hell you are talking about.
40A – Are you really on an opponents blog dissing another Lonhorn?
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
Again.
It’s a recurring theme. Do you have anything beneficial to bring to the table? Or is a cognizant thought a bit of a reach for you?
sigh, you have lost me
WHAT is a recurring theme? As far as a cognizant thought – wait a minute while I look up cognizant and try to organize my reply – it will be a doozy!
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
LOL - damn, I haven't been rigtht on anyones reply yet
Paranoia is a terrible thing.
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
LOL – What is all the angst about 2003 and 2004?
Who gives a rats ass?
Obviously, we do. You guys haven’t been waiting 50+ years to get to a particular bowl game, so you might not understand. Anyway, we’re psyched for this game and Fuck Texas sentiments are running high, so we’re going to enjoy having a shot at you guys.
Our excuse… New QB transferred from a completely different school/system, poor recruiting stemming from 2007-2008 protesters, and bad position coaching along the OL which has taken most of the season to fix. Also a few injuries but that could have been a lot worse.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Dec 6, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
It’s what keeps us going through the many, many difficult times that come along with being a Cal fan. ;-)
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Dec 6, 2011 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
My point about your 2004 bowl game...
I see some talk about payback for a perceived slight against CAL by Coach Mack Brown.
I’d like to make a couple of points.
Your head coach is suppose to have your team’s best interest at heart. If he is speaking up for the Longhorn Football Team, I have no problem with it. I don’t think I’ve ever heard Mack Brown say one negative or classless remark about another opponent. And believe me, we’ve had the opportunity. We play 2 Oklahoma Schools a year and we had to share a conference with Texas A&M. Not to mention we have Texas Tech fans we have to deal with too.
Coach Brown would never talk trash about another team, that includes Cal. You’ll see how leading up to the bowl game, during and after the bowl game, he will handle himself with nothing but class and treat Cal with the respect that your institution deserves.
I really don’t think the Longhorn Fanbase would hold a grudge against Coach Tedford if he was lobbying for a bowl game. It’s not like we have a playoff system, so unfortunately, there are going to be some politics invovled.
If you don’t like that aspect about our system you have 2 options:
1- Change the system
or
2- Win your games
Why do I bring it up? You seem like you have a pretty classy fanbase. So, I’m trying to get a window into your mindset as fans.
Yet nothing
of value to say. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised at this point.
by 40A on Dec 6, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
aztectomb posted this on BON and in the other thread. I think it explains things well
for most Cal fans
trying to come and explain that they were better in 2004 and that mack brown actually had nothing to do with us not going to the rose bowl. well that’s NOT why we hate him. here’s two comments i posted over on burn orange nation. they yearn for friendlier eyes and maybe some of you can relate to the sentiments:
whether mack brown’s pleading was the deciding factor or not is really immaterial in how i feel about the man. he has great political power and texas football a ton of clout. my perception then was that he was leveraging this political power against jeff tedford who had very little. tedford was a third year coach who’d taken a 1-11 team to the brink of an undefeated season in three years. texas on the other hand gets all the best recruits year in and year out. they have the best facilities and a rabid fan base. you want me to admit that you guys were better that year? fine. vince young was a beast. that doesn’t change my opinion about mack brown. it’s not like 2004 was an isolated incident. he did plenty of crying a few years back when crabtree broke your hearts up in lubbock. “i don’t get it. we BEAT oklahoma.” yeah and tech beat you and if you were going leach would be saying the same thing.
i’ve lived in austin for the last two years and work feet from campus. i’m friends with lots of smart nice longhorns and people here on BON seem especially thoughtful and cool but the fanbase as a whole seems a bit arrogant and entitled. which is how mack brown’s actions strike me now and especially did back in 2004.
i understand that he didn’t actually do anything egregious. i guess we’re talking gradations of shadiness. there’s a fine line between stating your case and then politicking. since mack brown had so much influence and fame and since we ended up on the raw end of that exchange it seemed like the latter to me. you guys are the yankees and the roger federers and the patriots. you get the best talent in texas and so the best talent in the world. you get to pay your coaches trillions of dollars. you get your own network (though none of you probably really get it). we totally get to hate you. that’s how this works.
the cals of the college football world aren’t allowed one off game against a conference usa opponent while the alabamas can play average against a FCS opponent at home and be in the championship game. the oklahoma states of the college football world can’t lose to in 3OT on the road to a bowl team. so all of you who are pissed about alabama and the football institution and political prowess winning out can maybe empathize with how we felt.
by LeonPowe on Dec 5, 2011 7:25 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
You may want to look back at 2004 in context with MB's hiring in 1998..
“whether mack brown’s pleading was the deciding factor or not is really immaterial in how i feel about the man. he has great political power and texas football a ton of clout. my perception then was that he was leveraging this political power against jeff tedford who had very little. tedford was a third year coach who’d taken a 1-11 team to the brink of an undefeated season in three years. texas on the other hand gets all the best recruits year in and year out. they have the best facilities and a rabid fan base.”
It all boils down to poor lowly Cal, doesn’t it? Last I checked, Cal recruits some good players. There are several notable ones seen on Sunday, two being in my fantasy team. So I really don’t see the need to “avenge 2004”. MB was hired in 98 when UT’s program was in the dumps and resurrected it from the dead. This was a slow going effort and fan support prior to 98 was abysmal. Sure, Texas is rolling on all cylinders now, but it wasn’t always the case, and consistent losses could usher the return of those dark days. Even after 98, MB still needed to encourage fans to attend games. In 2004, we had yet to reach a BCS game, much less a championship game, so the pressure on Mack to deliver was intense given the 4 straight losses to OU. So Texas lost to Wazzu by what, a few points? That Texas team got what it deserved. They came back the following year and lost one game! Again to OU! So what was Mack to do? What could Tedford have done? We all know Tedford had his QB man up when he didn’t. BTW, calling someone else unclassy in public is, well, unclassy. But I suppose those are Ca manners, right Mr. Rodgers?
Did it ever occur to any of you that perhaps Rose Bowl higher-ups know that Texas and Michigan fans travel well and would spend big dollars on hotels and food? Maybe, like other things, it boiled down to money? I find it hard to believe that a simple plea to the media is what turned the table that year against Cal. Whatever motivates you as fans, but my bet is on the Texas defense to take over while our running game pounds it out and wears out your D. We have an undefeated record against Cal. Look for it to continue this year.
Hook Em!
Your post if fine except for...
Did it ever occur to any of you that perhaps Rose Bowl higher-ups know that Texas and Michigan fans travel well and would spend big dollars on hotels and food?
You are naive and being a homer if you think for a second 1) The Rose Bowl preferred Texas over Cal and 2) the demand for tickets from Cal fans, who had / have been dreaming of a Rose Bowl appearance for 1/2 a century wouldn’t blow away demand from any other team, including Texas. Hell, we brought 35000 people to the Holiday Bowl that year.
You guys got the Rose Bowl. Congrats. But at least acknowledge you screwed over someone in the process. The Rose Bowl meant no more to you than the Sugar Bowl, Fiesta or Orange. It was only important to you because it was a BCS bowl. Whereas for longer than most of us have been a live, the Rose Bowl has been a mythical-like goal for (then) Pac 10 and Big 10ish fans… Why you guys can’t understand that is beyond me. If you would just acknowledge that it would be better for everyone (even with your coach and his brother refusing to release their final ballots).
We get it now
“The Rose Bowl meant no more to you than the Sugar Bowl, Fiesta or Orange. It was only important to you because it was a BCS bowl. Whereas for longer than most of us have been a live, the Rose Bowl has been a mythical-like goal for (then) Pac 10 and Big 10ish fans… Why you guys can’t understand that is beyond me.”
At first we were amazed that you guys were still hanging onto that anger. We get it now. We had no idea that the Rose Bowl was such a big deal to Cal fans. We don’t actually have any bowl that means that much to us so it is difficult to relate. I do think that it is normal for a coach to politic to get his team get into the best possible bowl game.
Anyway, best of luck to you in the bowl game.
We have people here seriously debate whether they’d prefer a Rose Bowl over a BCS Championship game. That’s how important it is. Now, rationally, of course anybody would prefer a National Championship, but this desire for a Rose Bowl is not a strictly rational thing anymore.
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by atomsareenough on Dec 6, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
Totally oblivious
Yeah, we were totally oblivious to all that. We just focus on what we have to do to get the program into MNC games (without cheating, of course).
Since 2004, Texas won an MNC and got to another MNC in 2009 while, somehow, dry rot was setting in the program. Anyway, now we seem to be playing mainly frosh and sophs and QB has turned into a black hole position. We had 3 really good TBs this year and they all got hurt. One is out for sure, one has perpetual hamstring problems, and one has turf toe (which is a lot worse than it sounds). If your DC cannot figure out how to stop our offense you should probably fire him.
Our defense has been really good most of the year.
Yes, us Texas fans do have a bowl that means as much as the Rose Bowl to Cal,
it’s called the National Championship Game.
by 40A on Dec 6, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
Hahaha.
Am I wrong in what I say? Read this board man! I don’t understand how you guys would rather go to the Rose Bowl than the National Championship Game. Now try again.
It is our ethos
There are Cal fans who cling on to life in hopes of seeing a Rose Bowl game with Cal in. There are many of us who fear we will pass from this Earth before ever seeing Cal play in the Rose Bowl.
"Rose Bowl Before I Die" is a serious saying
You cannot understand how we feel because you haven’t lived our life. Some people value other things more than you. Fiatlux’s comment about you being 19 seems true because only someone so young could not comprehend that different people have different values.
In other words, Go Bears!
Sure.
Fiatlux’s comment about you being 19 seems true because only someone so young could not comprehend that different people have different values.
I can take a personal dig, but just remember when somebody disagrees or doesn’t understand, it doesn’t make them 19 years old. Classy response though.
I don’t know why it’s so hard to understand that someone would be confused when a team would forgo a possible national championship game to play in a certain bowl. Forgive me.
Thank you. This is what we’re saying… Growing up you probably didn’t dream of going to the Cotton Bowl. Or to the Orange Bowl. Or to the Sugar Bowl… or or or… you just dreamed of going to a great bowl, beating Oklahoma and maybe winning an NC.
For Big 10ish and Pac 10 fans, every single year there was ONE goal. Going to the Rose Bowl. The grandaddy of them all. Watching your team’s band marching down Colorado Boulevard while playing the fight song.
THAT is why this meant so much to us. Had it been all about any of the other BCS Bowls, we would have been annoyed as anyone but would have eventually shrugged it off… but this was about THE ROSE BOWL.
butterfly effect
That was the more interesting idea to me, that by going to the Rose Bowl in 2004, it openrd up this different universe of possibilities for Texas that led to the MNC in 2005. Maybe if Cal would have gone to the 2004 Rose Bowl, that would have led to amazing things for Cal in the following years.
From a Texas perspective, Vince Young is our hero and we figure that, one way or another, he would have won an MNC before he left Texas. That, and the fact that he was of a number 1 ranked recruiting class full of talented players.
BTW, it is kind of cool that you have this mythic great white whale of a bowl. Your chances of getting there will definitely improve if you keep a very close eye on the USC and Oregon programs.
Again, thank you.
And I appreciate this
BTW, it is kind of cool that you have this mythic great white whale of a bowl. Your chances of getting there will definitely improve if you keep a very close eye on the USC and Oregon programs.
I would think, given the crap we hear people from other conferences say about us blase Pac 10 fans, more people would actually appreciate this aspect of our passion.
I think I speak for a lot of people that we fear when Cal finally makes it there, the Rose Bowl will be so diminished it just won’t be the same.
Having Nebraska playing Miami, for instance, just about kills us.
In 2004, we had yet to reach a BCS game
In 2011, Cal has yet to reach a BCS game. I think we’re plenty justified in being bitter.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Dec 6, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
Here's my official UNOFFICIAL Cal Holiday Bowl T-Shirt

You can buy them now and get them by next week. I really hate that man. Thanks for supporting! Get your t-shirt at: http://www.afropop.co/product/fack-muck-brown
Lawrence Ross
by alpha1906 on Dec 5, 2011 2:55 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Meh
Seems like something Sooner fan would wear. Didn’t think you allowed inbreading at Cal.
by Hippie Killer on Dec 5, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
"Inbreading"...
Is that when you mix rye with wheat bread? Must be a University of Texas class…
Lawrence Ross
I love freshly baked inbread!
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
I’m an outbread guy myself
no bear, no care
by EchoOfSilence on Dec 5, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
poor thing
maybe in another 60 years, you might actually win a conference championship and not have to “blame” someone
I did see where Kal won the 1938 Rose Bowl – congrats
by Senator-Blutarsky on Dec 6, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
You seem upset.
At a shirt, none the less.
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by Swamphunter on Dec 6, 2011 3:20 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I want one of these shirts! Where can I get one?
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Reply not new thread.
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 5, 2011 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Awesome. Nothing says 2011 like Beavis and Butthead.
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by atomsareenough on Dec 6, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
maybe a Cheech & Chong over B&B ?
that is the mindset in the Land of fruits & nuts
very fitting
by Senator-Blutarsky on Dec 6, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
Very fitting, indeed

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by atomsareenough on Dec 6, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
HEART
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Texas
Good running game, bad passing game, good defense…they sound like Utah but with better talent. I think we match up well with them, but if they’re that young they should especially benefit from the extra practices.
Seriously.
I’ve never seen a fanbase more interested in going to a certain bowl whether or not it’s the National Championship Game. For shame.
Well, we’re plenty interested in going to this year’s Holiday Bowl and whupping your asses, so hey, there’s that. :)
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by atomsareenough on Dec 6, 2011 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
Because there are many of us who have never seen Cal play in a Rose Bowl in their life time. Hell there have been many who have lived a life without seeing Cal in a Rose Bowl. Yes it means a lot
In other words, Go Bears!
Now, I do understand that. I really do.
And I don’t begrudge the importance of that bowl to you, but any sane follower should hope to go to a National Championship game over the Rose Bowl, just because it’s the Rose Bowl.
Sanity isn’t in question here. Rose Bowl for the Pac-10 was for a long time considered to be the end all thing in sports. Only recently (1998?) did the MNC game come into consideration. It just doesn’t have the aura that the Rose Bowl game does.
Now add in the fact that we haven’t been to the Rose Bowl in over half a century (the Korean War had just finished!), it shows how hungry we are. Other Pac-10 teams have been to the Rose Bowl enough that their appetite for the “Granddaddy of them all” is basically all but gone. They’ve tasted that fruit and now they want other things. We Cal fans haven’t. We’ve been longing for it for such a long time now.
In other words, Go Bears!
I can understand that.
But again, I question. I can’t give you the names of Rose Bowl winners, besides us of course. I guarantee you that’s the same everywhere. But people remember the national champion. The “aura” as you say, is self-placed. I understand the importance. But having a crystal ball has way more prestige. That’s just a fact.
Well, there is an assumption there that the National Championship has meaning as a true national championship. And given the lack of playoff system or the inherent biases in computer and people-driven polls, that assumption is questionable. And if you won the national championship in such a manner, what then?
Whereas, the Rose Bowl is the Rose Bowl.
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Now, see - this is a FAN! I like this kind of smack!
Since we both have 7-5 records, the ass whippings have probably been few.
However, we are familiar with the term, “ass whippings”, as we just had one administered to us by Baylor.
For us to deliver one means that we beat you by, say, 17 – 14. You will know then that, by God, we came to play! In addition we will eat your children, steal your women and have Mack Brown tell his team to tear down your goal posts.
Don’t jack with us, baby!
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
Reply, not new thread.
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
That one might have been on me. I double/triple posted my comment because of the CGB outage, so he might have reply-failed because of that.
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by atomsareenough on Dec 6, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
I think hes trying to help you.
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Correction: In addition we will eat rape your children animals, steal repel your women.
[Cal is] a fabulous university with a football program that typically has precious few and very fleeting brushes with success but a great many unions with failure.
--Monte Poole, Oakland Tribune, 11-30-2010
by SonofCalifornia on Dec 6, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
Are we still talking about Texas, or have we moved on to discussing A&M now?
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by atomsareenough on Dec 6, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
Hahaha, Oh yes, atomsareenough, you are my kind of guy (no homo)
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj3VphK9AMk
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by atomsareenough on Dec 6, 2011 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
LOL - Is this spaz dude some kind of blog police?
I’m not smart enough to understand his cryptic remark and the deep meaning he is trying to deliver. Maybe he is just hoping for a green out?
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
I think we’re all just hoping you’ll go away now. Two days of this, enough already. And no, you’re not smart enough to understand, thanks for admitting it.
[Cal is] a fabulous university with a football program that typically has precious few and very fleeting brushes with success but a great many unions with failure.
--Monte Poole, Oakland Tribune, 11-30-2010
by SonofCalifornia on Dec 6, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
C’mon man. No need to get personal. This guy’s at least posting in good faith. I think we’re big enough as individuals to have some good-natured banter with passing Texas folk without being, er, snide.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Dec 6, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
I know you’re a mod and all, but c’mon man. How are comments like, “that is the mindset in the Land of fruits & nuts” good natured? Or taunting Spazzy with a blog police comment? They’re coming to our site and mouthing off and I’m being snide?
[Cal is] a fabulous university with a football program that typically has precious few and very fleeting brushes with success but a great many unions with failure.
--Monte Poole, Oakland Tribune, 11-30-2010
by SonofCalifornia on Dec 6, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
our mods have always had an interesting way of handling “honored guests”
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
We treat them like we treat most of our readers, we give them a lot of rope to hang themselves before we take action.
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but wouldn’t that mean that they’d actually not be hanging themselves since if they had a lot of rope they’’d probably just be standing on the ground… one end of the rope in a noose around their neck, but the other on the other side of the ceiling beam, resting harmlessly in a coiled heap on the ground…
When I finally figure out how much rope is on offer, I'm going to reel it all in and go into the rope-selling business.
I’ll make millions!
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It was fantastic."
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The guy who made the homophobic comment is already on our radar, don’t worry. I don’t think this person is taunting anyone though, so let’s just all be cool.
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by atomsareenough on Dec 6, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think this person is taunting anyone
have got to be kidding…
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
I think this guy honestly was not aware of the commenting faux pas that you were pointing out, yes. The other guy, we’re dealing with.
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by atomsareenough on Dec 6, 2011 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
It’s more that, to most, it’s quite obvious when folks want to come and have a real conversation, and those that want to come and stir shit up for no reason.
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
EXACTLY
And it really sucks when your own mods jump on YOU for being the problem!
[Cal is] a fabulous university with a football program that typically has precious few and very fleeting brushes with success but a great many unions with failure.
--Monte Poole, Oakland Tribune, 11-30-2010
by SonofCalifornia on Dec 6, 2011 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
My God, you guys are touchy
It’s all good natured smack – pre bowl game and all. Relax and loosen up a little.. My apologies if you were offended by my homophobic remark – it was unintentional.
But, spazzy, I am going to the game and if you are, I will buy you a beer beforehand just to present a peace offering – hell, we might get drunk together.. Relax, this blog isn’t the Persian Gulf and it’s all good.
Sure, we were here to troll ya some – it’s PRE-GAME time. :-)
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
Besides, UT was just a hair away from joing the PAC - you would have REALLY loved us then!
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
Touchy? HAHAHA this blog is as fucked up as you can find. We’re all very fucking weird
In other words, Go Bears!
I dont know how to take this
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Twist - I read your hilarious post on BON
You sure you aren’t an Austin native? Hell, this is why UT has such an affinity for The PAC – we were occupied years ago by your silicon valley transfers going to work for Dell and Motorol.
Thanks a lot, Californians, your transfers managed to drive the price up of my parents home from $7,500 (in 1950) to $375,000.
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
wolfman??? I don't know whether to thank you or say WTF?
In other words – speak clearly and succinctly – or, better yet, do you have flash cards?
me no comprendo (I learned this from my illegal alien yardman)
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
You guys want to talk Xs and Os, who’s got a better QB, defense and whatnot, we can do that. Even smack talking regarding those defenses and such. But start taking about “how’d that 2004 holiday bowl go for you?” call us whiners, etc., then expect some “sensitivity”
as you call it.
[Cal is] a fabulous university with a football program that typically has precious few and very fleeting brushes with success but a great many unions with failure.
--Monte Poole, Oakland Tribune, 11-30-2010
by SonofCalifornia on Dec 6, 2011 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
Well, I'm not fond of that kind of nasty trolling either
But I have no problem telling you that we intend to stomp you into a mudhole – just as soon as we can find a QB that will lead us.
The good news for you guys, is that half of our starters were attending their HS senior proms, not more than 7 or so months ago.
The bad news is that this time off before the bowl game allows us to heal and get even more coached up and, hopefully, be able to snatch victory from sure defeat.
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
we intend to stomp you into a mudhole – just as soon as we can find a QB that will lead us.
We’ve had QB issues too, ever since Nate Longshore got hurt and never was the same again all the way back in 2007. Our current QB Maynard seems to be rounding into form somewhat now though, so hopefully he can make more winning plays instead of giving the game away with turnovers.
Anyway, regardless how this game turns out, remember we have a home-and-home series scheduled for 2014/2015, so we’re going to be seeing a lot of each other.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Dec 6, 2011 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, you don't KNOW what QB issues are, I promise you.
I did forget about the home and home. Irvine – isn’t that near Orange county and John Wayne airport?
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
Yeah, Irvine is in Orange County, and John Wayne Airport is pretty much in Irvine. Are you looking for a flight/hotel room all the way up there? The game is like 80-90 miles south of there.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Dec 6, 2011 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
I actually went to a medical convention in Orange County
An oil company called Varco financed everything, if you can believe it.
We made the catestrophic mistake of flying to LAX. Drove to our hotel at 2:00 AM (hwy. 20?) , doing about 75 and getting passed by multitudes of Porches doing about 180, or so it seemed. You people are crazy on your roads! TWO O’CLOCK in the morning, for God’s sake!
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
Man trust me we do.
2005 – We had one of the best defenses of the Tedford era, we had an electrifying freshman in DeSean Jackson, Marshawn Lynch was a sophomore, the OL was one of the best. With Aaron Rodgers in there that was a Rose Bowl or even NC caliber team. But alas he left. Fear not! We have a great freshman QB in Nate Longshore. Oh he broke his ankle on the first play? Ok let’s take this 5* JUCO QB called Ayoob instead. Oh whoops. Ayoob sucks. He took this team to a 8/9 win season.
2010 – Riley (who was until this year the definition of inconsistency) went down with an injury against Oregon State so we stuck in Brock Mansion. This guy just could not make passes. With even Ayoob we would’ve beaten Oregon last year. But no, not with he who cannot pass. It got so bad we almost ran wildcat the whole time. Hell our FR WR Keenan Allen was a better QB than our real QB.
In other words, Go Bears!
We have two that we will gladly send you
One is an overwhelmed legacy that should be playing on a JUCO team. The other is a shell shocked freshman that has forgotten the playbook.
Look, we have been so desperate that we are playing an offensive guard at TE.
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
I know, and I really appreciate you and the rest of the CGB regulars not taking the bait. I think some of the Texas folks definitely were here just to stir shit up, and others were here for a relatively good-natured exchange. We’re trying to shut down the people in the former group, while not being hostile to the people in the latter group, that’s all.
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by atomsareenough on Dec 6, 2011 5:32 PM PST up reply actions
Can we just tell all the Longhorn fans to see Leon Powe’s post above and be done with it? There’s nothing more to say after that.
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by SonofCalifornia on Dec 6, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
Go for it. :)
For the record, I wasn’t trying to jump on you or say you were the problem. We all have a grudge against Texas so it’s understandable that few of us are inclined to take any shit from them. I’m just saying, let’s keep it above the belt, so to speak.
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by atomsareenough on Dec 6, 2011 5:41 PM PST up reply actions
Have you not seen
what SpazzyMcGee posts? I would be more upset with him then an opponent’s postings, personally.
Just some friendly
banter before a game before our two universities. I mean, this is a public forum, correct?
Spazzy is saying to use the reply button instead ofa new comment, so the conversations thread.
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this needs to be re-posted here

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by atomsareenough on Dec 6, 2011 5:53 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
I love that it’s specifically BEVO and not just a random longhorn.
[Cal is] a fabulous university with a football program that typically has precious few and very fleeting brushes with success but a great many unions with failure.
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by SonofCalifornia on Dec 6, 2011 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
This is just wrong!
You know, of course, that in real life Bevo is about twice the size of that little puppy dog in that pic?
Proud of your offense? Manny badger don't give a shit!
He only looks so small because the bear is so massive ;-)
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by atomsareenough on Dec 7, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, I get it
It’s a little bear trying to do the Texas Two Step with a rather grumpy looking steer. He won’t have any luck though, steers are notorious bad dancers.
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