This week's Top 25:
California Golden Blogs Top 25 - Week 14
|3||Alabama Crimson Tide||1|
|4||Florida State Seminoles||1|
|5||TCU Horned Frogs||1|
|7||Ohio State Buckeyes||1|
|8||Mississippi State Bulldogs||1|
|11||Arizona State Sun Devils||1|
|12||Michigan State Spartans||4|
|T-13||Kansas State Wildcats||2|
|T-13||Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets||1|
|17||Colorado State Rams||2|
|20||Boise State Broncos||3|
|21||Marshall Thundering Herd||3|
|22||Minnesota Golden Gophers||NEW|
Others receiving votes: Memphis Tigers
In terms of the top 4: TCU jumps over Florida State as the Seminoles continue to not impress. I'm holding steady with TCU for now, but still expect to push Baylor ahead of the Horned Frogs if they can get through Kansas State (and Texas Tech) unscathed.
Atoms: Fiat, what's your rationale behind ranking Mississippi so low, all the way down at #20? The Rebels only have 2 losses, both of them very close losses, both to decent teams. ... I just don't see why you would have them ranked far behind teams like Arizona State, or Michigan State, or even 3-loss teams such as Utah and Oklahoma.
FiatLux: Because there's trending. They've lost their last two games. (I'm certainly not going to count a win against Presbyterian). So they're trending down. One to a team that's no longer ranked one to a team that's lost three games. I think the teams ahead of them are better but whether they're 20th or 15th doesn't matter to me. You have them as the best of the two loss teams, SEVEN places ahead of Wisconsin. You have them ahead of Georgia. Those way more questionable to me.
Anyway, I hope we're clear now Atoms.
I got to tell you, I'm having trouble keeping FSU in the top 4. I really hope they lose to FSU or Georgia Tech.
I stuck Marshall in the poll at the bottom just for the hell of it, even with that impressive squeaker against UAB.
On the subject of squeakers, I'll also note that Wisconsin's little string of domination also ended this week against Iowa, as did Marshall's. I knocked them both back about 5 spots. I'll note that Minnesota dominated that same Iowa team 51-14. On the other hand, Minnesota only won by 4 against Nebraska, and Wisconsin dominated the Cornhuskers 59-24. The power of matchups, I guess? Anyway, I'm really curious to see who will win the Paul Bunyan Axe next week.
I'm slightly annoyed that I have two SEC West teams in my top 4, but that probably won't last through the conference championship games.
Anyway Fiat, I'm glad you found it in your heart to rank an 11-0 team this week!
Berkelium97: I also agree with you guys about Florida State. I hate having them in my top-4. Every week they manage to steal a win. While one could make an argument that this speaks to their resilience, a playoff contender should not put itself in these positions every week.
Once again the SEC West is getting re-evaluated now that Ole Miss was shut out in a blowout loss to conference doormat Arkansas. No one in the West has more than one impressive win. Alabama beat Miss. St, whose best win is Auburn, whose best win is Kansas State. LSU's only notable win is over Wisconsin and Ole Miss' best win is against Boise State. Arkansas and aTm have no signature wins. Is this really the best division in the nation?
I swapped Baylor in for TCU among my playoff teams this week. Baylor has been more consistently dominant in recent conference games and the Bears the tiebreaker over TCU. That recent momentum takes them to 2nd in my poll.
I'd love to see a bowl game between Good Arizona and Good Georgia.
Also, in case you guys missed it, Arkansas is 26th in the AP Poll this week. 6-5 Arkansas is RECEIVING LARGE NUMBERS OF VOTES. This is incredible. Surely their wins are due because they're clearly a great team, not due to the fact that we've been massively overrating Ole Miss and LSU. How quickly the nation has forgotten that only 10 days ago this team had lost 16 consecutive conference games.
FiatLux: You have got to be kidding me about Arkansas. Let's see. They're 6-5. Those six wins include Nicholls State (which we learned on Saturday is headed by a Cal alum!), UAB, Northern Illinois and 4-7 Texas Tech.
Nick Kranz: Re: Arkansas - Northern Illinois is easily the best team in the MAC, and Arkansas beat 'em by 38. I do think it's insane to rank Arkansas, but when four losses came to ranked teams and the other was in overtime, I can see the argument that the team is much better than their record indicates. I know I wouldn't want to draw Arkansas in bowl season if I were a fan of a 6-6 team . . .
FiatLux: Are you seriously saying that you're giving a mighty SEC team credit because they beat the best MAC team? I give up.
atomsareenough: Well, I'm totally willing to believe that Arkansas' defense is revamped, that they're no longer a conference doormat, and have slowly turned themselves into a legit SEC-caliber team. They've got two really nice wins in a row plus some very competitive games against good teams like Miss State, Georgia, and Alabama... but ranking them at 6-5 is totally preposterous. I think we can all agree on that.
Other odds and ends from this week's poll:
- There was TON of general agreement on certain teams. Oregon was a unanimous #1 again, and really the top 4 was pretty clear. Some teams in the middle such as Georgia, Arizona, Arizona State, Georgia Tech, Missouri were all within a couple of spots of each other on our ballots. I think that means we have enough data points that our various methodologies are coming together for the most part. Additionally, we all had the exact same 25 teams for the most part, except that FiatLux voted for Memphis and not Mississippi.
- That said, there were still some teams that we disagreed on. Weekly source of conflict Marshall was #15 for both me and Berkelium, and #25 for both Nick and Fiat. Wisconsin's ballot position ranged from #8 (Fiat) to #20 (me). Kansas State ranged from #7 to #17. Nick had Mississippi up at #16, the rest of us had them at #25 or unranked.
- Fun fact: FiatLux is the only one of us who has voted for UCLA every single week of the season, and every week his ranking for UCLA has been the highest of any of us... except for once in Week 11 when Nick had them at #11 at Fiat had them at #12. This week he has the 2-loss Bruins ahead of 1-loss TCU. Though to be completely fair, 3 of us do have them ahead of 1-loss Ohio State. Still, I think it's fair to say that Fiat's love of the Bruins knows no bounds.