NCAA Men's Swimming and Diving Championship Day 2 Open Thread

Can the Bears' three-peat hope stay afloat after Friday? - Ezra Shaw

After one day of action, the Bears are in 2nd place. Will the Bears make a move on Day 2 and chase down Michigan? GO BEARS!

Team standings after Day 1:

1. Michigan 153
2. California 123.5

Can the Bears make up the difference and pull ahead of Michigan today?


Live stats: Update

Live Video (Prelims and Day One Final): Indiana Sports Corp

Live Video (Day two and day three finals): ESPN3

Prelims start at 8 AM PT, Finals start at 4 PM PT

Day 1 + Preview can be found here

Day 2 Prelim Result Chart

From SwimSwam: Green means improvement from seed, Red means regression.

100 200 100 100 200 800 TOTAL
IM Fly Free Breast Back M.R. F.R. (No 800)
Michigan 1/1 (2/0) 2/0 (1/1) 2/0 (3/1) 1/1 (2/0) 1/0 (1/0) 1/0 (1/0) 0/0 (1/0) 8/2 (10/2)
California 1/1 (1/1) 2/0 (2/0) 0/1 (0/1) 1/0 (0/1) 2/1 (1/2) 1/0 (1/0) 0/0 (1/0) 7/3 (5/5)

Day 2 Schedule of Events:

#7 Men 200 Medley Relay
#9 Men 100 Fly
#10 Men 200 Free
#11 Men 100 Breast
#12 Men 100 Back
#13 Men 3 mtr Diving
#14 Men 800 Free

Full list of Cal Entries in the 2013 NCAA Championship:

50 Freestyle: Shayne Fleming (19.56), Seth Stubblefield (19.64)

100 Freestyle: Seth Stubblefield (43.34), Trent Williams (44.11)

200 Freestyle: Trent Williams (1:34.60), Will Hamilton (1:35.61), Seth Stubblefield (1:37.04), Jeremy Bagshaw (1:37.35)

500 Freestyle: Adam Hinshaw(4:18.08), Jeremy Bagshaw(4:18.65),Will Hamilton (4:19.00),Trent Williams(4:20.95)

1650 Freestyle: Adam Hinshaw(15:05.96),Jeremy Bagshaw(15:15.49)

100 Butterfly: Tom Shields (44.92), Marcin Tarczynski (45.97), Austin Brown (46.94), Tony Cox (47.49)

200 Butterfly: Tom Shields (1:41.23),Will Hamilton (1:42.75),Austin Brown (1:44.74), Ben Hinshaw(1:45.27)

100 Backstroke: Tony Cox (46.06),Jacob Pebley (46.51)

200 Backstroke: Jacob Pebley (1:40.45), Marcin Tarczynski(1:43.22)

100 Breaststroke: Trevor Hoyt(52.65), Ryan Studebaker (53.21), Christian Higgins (53.38)

200 Breaststroke: Josh Prenot(1:53.63), Trevor Hoyt(1:53.76), Christian Higgins (1:55.14), Ryan Studebaker (1:55.56)

200 IM: Marcin Tarczynski(1:43.10),Josh Prenot (1:43.73),Ben Hinshaw (1:44.79)

400 IM: Josh Prenot(3:41.36), Adam Hinshaw(3:44.36),Ben Hinshaw(3:48.05)

Relays: 200 Free (1:17.76, Fleming, Fabio Gimondi, Nick Dillinger, Stubblefield), 400 Free (2:54.41,Gimondi, Stubblefield, Dillinger, Shields), 800 Free (6:20.20, Williams, Shields, TBD, Hamilton), 200 Medley (1:24.42, Cox, Hoyt, Shields, Fleming), 400 Medley (3:06.09, Pebley, Hoyt, Shields, Stubblefield) list the top seeds for the Bears:

Shields (Huntington Beach, Calif.) is seeded first in the 100 fly (44.92), second in the 200 fly (1:41.23) and ninth in the 100 back (46.12) after winning all three of those events at the 2013 Pac-12 meet. Other top seedings for Cal include freshman Josh Prenot, seeded fourth (3:41.36) and Pac-12 champ in the 400 IM; Hamilton, seeded fifth (1:42.75) in the 200 fly; senior Trevor Hoyt, seeded fifth (1:53.76) and the 2012 NCAA runner-up in the 200 breast; freshman Jacob Pebley, seeded fifth in the 200 back (1:40.45) and Tarczynski, seeded sixth (1:43.10) in the 200 IM. The Bears' 200 medley relay (1:24.42, junior Tony Cox, Hoyt, Shields, Fleming) is seeded third and the 400 medley relay (3:06.09, Cox, Hoyt, Shields, Stubblefield or Gimondi) is seeded fourth. Additionally, Cal won 2013 Pac-12 titles in both the 200 and 400 medley relays.

NCAA Scoring:

This is the same as for the women's:

The team scoring breakdown are the following, for each individual events, a team score points by the final standing of the events. For most event, the finish in the morning's trial determines who makes it to the two finals of the evening. The A Final ("Championship Final") guarantee a swimmer at least a 8th place finish while the B Final ("Consolation Final") determines places 9th-16th. Even if a swimmer from the B Final has a faster time than a swimmer in the A Final, the best the B Finalist can do is still 9th place.

Here is the official statement from the rulebook (this link I found is from 2010):

All events will be scored. Scoring shall be for 16 places as follows: relays, 40-34-32-

30-28-26-24-22-18-14-12-10-8-6-4-2; individual events, 20-17-16-15-14-13-12-11-9-

7-6-5-4-3-2-1. Except in time final events, points for first through eighth place shall be

awarded solely on the basis of a championship final. Points for ninth through 16th place

shall be awarded solely on the basis of a consolation final

So the point breakdown is basically one point per place for the individual events, with the exception for the winner who gets two extra bonus point for winning an event (so 3 points more than the 2nd place). The winner of the consolation event gets one extra bonus point as well. Again, relays are basically events where the points are doubled.

By the time that the championship finalists are determined, you can pretty much see which events Cal would be picking up points on the opponents and which events where we would have to hold our breath.

Some Thoughts about Day 2:

Day 2 could be senior Tom Shields' day to shine, with him competing in his signature 100 Fly event, as well as 100 Back. The bulk of the Bears' top seeds are for events in the final day, however. To make the final day still interesting, the Bears need to perform above seed and score bunch of points to keep Michigan within striking range.


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