Cal Football Recruiting Event: Tosh Lupoi Broke His Word
by Avinash Kunnath on Feb 13, 2012 3:00 AM PST
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For the second straight year, dballisloose attended the SoCal Recruiting event (check out his posts from last year here and here), which allowed many of the most passionate Cal alumni a chance to interact with some of the most prominent leaders in Cal Athletics and Cal football.
Due to time constraints, he couldn't post these himself, but all credit for the content, the transcribing and the reporting goes to him. Send him kudos or buy him a beer next time you see him.
Once again, the Cal Athletic Department and our friends at Bear Insider graciously hosted alums at the Mountaingate Country Club in Los Angeles. As in years past, our esteemed Athletic Director, Sandy Barbour, and Linebacker Coach Kenwick Thompson were joined by Jim McGill from Bear Insider as they gave a review on the state of Cal athletics, a summary of this year’s incoming recruiting class, and brazenly answered our pointed questions…which were much more pointed than in years past.
This is part one of a two part post of the event. Part One addresses the overviews from Coach Thompson and Sandy Barbour. Part Two will give us insights into what to expect in 2012.
First up was Coach Thompson, who must be tired of answering questions about Tosh by now because he immediately addressed the situation by saying that no one man or one recruit defines Cal football. In fact, the recruits who came "are the ones that are supposed to be here, and the others are the ones we’ll deal with come gameday". He went on to say that the kids we got are all really motivated, loyal, and have conveyed to coaches that they understand the importance of certain goals and expectations of Cal fans (like going to a Rose Bowl). We can be certain they’ll play hard for us.
Thompson also compared the role of a recruiter to being a car salesman: You know at the end of the day you want the recruit to buy your product and you’ll do whatever it takes to sell him on your program, but the good recruiters are the ones that make sure that product really fits the features and priorities the kid has in mind. For example, a recruit might say his top three priorities are academics, playing time, and the geography/location, but the recruiter has to peel back the onion to determine in what order those are really the priorities, to make sure that what Cal can offer is really a fit.
To elaborate, say we have a bunch of WR’s on the roster and there’s a WR recruit from the East Bay. Maybe the kid says Cal’s academics, location, and playing time are all important. The recruiter then has to make sure that academics and location are truly more important than playing time, because of all the other WR’s already on the roster. The recruiters don’t want to mislead the kids and sell them a product that doesn’t fit. Might seem obvious to many readers, but was insightful to some of us in the room.
Recruits are also very in tune with social and traditional media. With the increase in signing day presentations, the way the events are streamed online and broadcast across the country on nationalized broadcasts on major networks, recruits are pushing for glory and attention earlier and earlier in their careers. Coach Thompson cautioned that this could be a dangerous slope, and kids are often thrust into the limelight before they’re emotionally and psychologically ready. The result? Kids are changing their minds more often than they have in years past. This also comes into play with this year’s recruiting class and all the adventures we had in the two weeks prior to signing day.
So what about Tosh? Coach Thompson said he and the other coaches all acknowledge that while this is a business, the timing of Tosh’s departure was the biggest factor that soured the relationship between them. On moving forward, Coach Thompson cited the lack of contingency and communications planning was exposed, and led to an inability of the athletic department to control the news and messaging in the public space.
In particular, going forward we should expect that all coaches on the staff will become more fluent in the use of social media, and that the program will be putting in place a plan and standards for how to use social media both proactively and reactively. I’ll be looking for Tedford’s Twitter account to be updated more than once a year (since this post was written, it's been updated twice. RIP Whitney.).
The one thing fans should understand about recruiting is that the coaching staff employs a matrix approach to building multiple relationships with recruits between a geographic specialist (e.g. Coach Thompson has Texas and many southern states), a position coach, the offensive or defensive coordinator, and Tedford. Thus, if a coach leaves, there should still be 2-3 more coaches with whom a recruit has built a relationship, which should mitigate the risk of the recruit leaving.
At the end of the day, recruits might choose to leave but those will be the ones for whom the value proposition of being a Cal student-athlete were not as compelling as their relationship with the coach, and we’re better off in the long run because being at Cal is a complex and multifaceted experience and we want people here who will embrace it.
Barbour took her turn at the mic and began by sharing some additional information about Tosh and the process.
Barbour and Tedford first gave Tosh a raise when his former teammate and Oregon alum Justin Wilcox was made defensive coordinator at the University of Washington (refuting the common sentiment that Cal was back on their heels while Sark the puppet-master directed the strings). This was a proactive attempt to retain Tosh, knowing that Wilcox and UW would be likely to try and recruit (pun intended) Tosh to join them.
In total, Barbour and Tedford would make three different offers to Tosh, with each attempt requiring them to go to a booster group to solicit additional funding to make up the gap. The last time an offer was accepted by Tosh, there was an implicit agreement not to entertain additional offers from UW.
But UW kept calling, and we all know the rest.
To arrive at an offer that would be competitive enough to retain Tosh, Barbour had to weigh a variety of issues including internal equity across the coaching staff. Any alum who has been working for a while will be familiar with the nuances of organizational behavior and the negative effect that inequity of salary can have on the team. However, there were several questions asked about the athletic department’s budget, fundraising, and the revenue sharing from the television package.
For one, we really don’t have much insight into where UW gets the funding to pay for their coaches’ salaries. Interestingly enough, Cal’s athletic department has roughly the same operating budget as the other major schools. Where we differ is in the way our budget is distributed across significantly more sports and student athletes (Oregon has half of the student athletes that Cal has on scholarship).
Essentially, we’re faced with an expense issue rather than a top-line revenue issue. Money that would otherwise go towards the football program and coaches’ salaries gets deferred to pay for women’s gymnastics, for example. The difference in funding between Cal’s football program and that of University of Oregon or USC’s football programs is about $5M-$8M per year. To compound the issue, we won't have much transparency what the other schools do with their expected revenue from the television package isn’t something we’ll have transparency into. Cal’s athletic department will use the money to make up the deficit in our fundraising and distribute remaining funds to those Cal athletic programs that are losing money.
The major take away from this discussion is that we’re in the midst of an athletic department arms race with the other schools in the conference, and the only way around it is to cut our expenses (read: athletic programs) or increase fundraising specific to the football program.
On a positive note, the SAHPC is here, and the finishing touches are supposedly amazing. Underwater treadmills? Sign me up! And while the Big Game being played so early in 2012 has ruffled a lot of fur, Barbour was fresh off a flight from Texas where she and the other Pac-12 athletic directors were negotiating with the commissioner an agreement that would essentially rotate the pain of early rivalry games across the conference in such a way that in 2013 and 2014, the Big Game would be moved back towards the end of the season (but before Thanksgiving weekend so fans and students can all attend).
In Part Two of the recap, there will be more details on the impact of the SAHPC on recruiting, and some insights into which incoming recruits we can expect to see on the field in 2012.
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Tosh Off
Implicit? Why wasn’t agreement explicit?
Because it’s called negotiating. I can say to you, “I am going to go back one more time for you, but i can’t go back again and i am really pushing heaven and earth to make this happen… so if i do that you got assure me you’ll accept.” I don’t have anything for you to sign at that point to make it explicit and even if I did you’d still be able to leave. Cal may have done some stuff wrong in terms of organization as described above, but where it pertains to Tosh, he screwed us, plain and simple.
I'm a relatively recent alum (2009)
And I haven’t donated to football at all since I’ve graduated. My donations go to the college of engineering, basically to do my part to keep it competitive so that my degree stays relative.
After this recruiting cycle, it’s become obvious that I (and WE) need to do the same with Football. I’m comitting to donating, however small, as it’s come to my attention that seriously no one donates. I hope more of you come to the same conclusion.
no bear, no care
by EchoOfSilence on Feb 13, 2012 7:51 AM PST via mobile reply actions 3 recs
*degree stays relevant
no bear, no care
by EchoOfSilence on Feb 13, 2012 7:52 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I donate equally to the Athletic Fund and the College of Natural Resources every year.
I’ve seen it expressed around these parts that some feel they don’t need to donate since their parents paid taxes growing up. I hate this attitude and hope it is not as widespread as it seems.
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Feb 13, 2012 8:12 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I tend to donate almost exclusively to the academic causes over athletics.
I suppose that makes me part of the problem in a way, in that I’m one of those Old Blues who wants to see wins for the various teams, but haven’t parted with cash to help support them.
But my rationale (whether it’s logical or not) is that when compared to each other, the academic budget for UC Berkeley is in more dire straits than the athletic budget for Cal. The constant cuts by the state and the regular tuition hikes tells me that even though both are hurting, the school needs my support more than the teams.
And although the little sibs from the LA Normal School might disagree, I find that the true value of UC is the education, and that the athletics is the luster on our alma mater’s shine. The fact that UC has been among the top three to five most highly regarded academic institutions since before Clark Kerr assumed leadership is more of a source of pride than any NCAA championship or bowl victory. Let the lesser schools bolster their ego entirely on sports.
Of course, we can have both, and to do so, I suppose I may have to begin donating to the athletic department. But even so, I doubt the ratio will ever exceed 30% of my total donations.
Being an Old Blue means embracing the "meh".
Every little bit helps, and I think I’ll be splitting my donation around the same ratio.
no bear, no care
by EchoOfSilence on Feb 13, 2012 8:56 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Just as important, maybe even more so
…is to elect Assembly members and State Senators who will restore funding to the UC and CSU systems, and K-12 education.
We risk having our economic engine going into a stall if we can’t produce educated students who can then produce for California.
A rising tide lifts all boats, including athletics.
"We do not seek men who will bravely lie down to die, but men who will fight valiantly to live."
"Winning is not everything. It is far better to play the game squarely and lose than to win at the sacrifice of an ideal."
-- Andrew Latham Smith
but knowing who to elect is always a crapshoot.
no bear, no care
by EchoOfSilence on Feb 13, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
UNIVERSITY OF THE WORLD!
#doomgang
by Redonkulous Bear on Feb 13, 2012 9:26 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Wilcox
Slight correction for you:
Wilcox is an alum of the University of Oregon. He’s also about 5 years older than Tosh, and was the linebackers coach at Cal while Tosh was a player here.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
Barbour was fresh off a flight from Texas where she and the other Pac-12 athletic directors were negotiating with the commissioner
Why inTexas?
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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Feb 13, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
Why Texas you ask?
Because the conference was being hosted by the famed Sun Bowl.
And you just know Larry Scott made a side trip to Austin to sweet talk Deloss Dodd into the future of the Pac16.
I pre-game @ Barclays Pub
by nor_cal_scott on Feb 20, 2012 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
Money that would otherwise go towards the football program and coaches’ salaries gets deferred to pay for women’s gymnastics, for example. The difference in funding between Cal’s football program and that of University of Oregon or USC’s football programs is about $5M-$8M per year. To compound the issue, we won’t have much transparency what the other schools do with their expected revenue from the television package isn’t something we’ll have transparency into. Cal’s athletic department will use the money to make up the deficit in our fundraising and distribute remaining funds to those Cal athletic programs that are losing money.
huh.
KEEP CALM
AND
Z ON
Which part in particular can I clarify?
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by dballisloose on Feb 13, 2012 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
no no, everything is perfectly clear. I meant it like: “Huh. Look at that.” I took some shit last week for insinuating that we had too many sports.
KEEP CALM
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Z ON
by Spazzy Mcgee on Feb 13, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
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by atomsareenough on Feb 13, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t think you insinuated it. You seemed quite clear about it.
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I agreed with you...
….in fact Sandy is saying almost verbatim what I was saying after glancing at the publicly available finances. The TV revenue for us solves the year to year deficit under the current program. For everyone else in the conference it’s new money to spend. Other conference schools are elevated competitively for coach-hiring above everyone except the SEC and a few other elite schools, whereas Cal is only able to stay competitive with everyone else without now running a deficit. This is why the revenue from the Pac-12 network will be so critical for Cal. While it won’t solve the gap between SOME conference schools and Cal, it will (if lucrative enough), also elevate Cal against the hoi polloi of college athletics.
Yeah Sandy was more than a little pointed in her comments about the number of programs we have. Other schools have solved for the Title IX issue, we should be smart enough to figure it out. Hell, we have one of the top business schools in the world, so we should be able to figure out the finance side of it.
Jorge's casa no es su casa.
by dballisloose on Feb 13, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Good post, but not much new here
No surprises. We’ve been having very thoughtful discussions here for some weeks over the priorities Cal has and should have, and this these speakers added nothing to that. No fault or anything.
As I watched Cal demolish UCLA this weekend in basketball (Go Bears!), with beautiful execution again and again and again of set plays and great passing, I was reminded of much I respect and appreciate Monty ball and admire his players. It was a reminder too that our beloved football team does not beat teams of equal or greater talent. We lose to them almost every time. Now maybe that is a bit of apples and oranges with the two sports, but I think it holds true enough to make me feel our troubles are not merely financial. There is no way Mike Riley wins so many games with such under rated talent and low budgets except for great coaching. I hope Tedford and company can conjure a bit of Monty in 2012!
In my opinion they will have to.....
………to make up for the last few schools in the conference we have little chance of competing with every year.
Up until now
there has been a lot of conjecture and rumor. And, while much of it has been consistent and believable, this solidifies what we’ve heard from other sources.
Props to Sandy B. A huge “F*ck You” to Tosh for going back on his word. He will never coach at Cal again.
Well, on the other hand, Riley just followed up his 5-7 season with a 3-9 season. When you know the ins and outs of a program, it’s easy to see the flaws. I suspect if we knew other programs as well as we know Cal’s, we’d easily uncover a whole lot of flaws…
by Missing Barry on Feb 13, 2012 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
Wilcox is an Oregon alum
I get you’re probably meaning he’s a Cal staff coaching “alum”, but he’s an actual alum of the University of Oregon. Could you correct what is otherwise an excellent bit of reporting?
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Will you have transparency into what other school's do with their TV $$$?
"No one ever rises to low expectations." - Chip Kelly Head Coach at the Univ. of Oregon.
by SouthOfTheBorderDuck on Feb 13, 2012 3:00 PM PST reply actions
Don't worry...
It’s just a glitch in the Matrix. Move along.
To compound the issue, we won’t have much transparency what the other schools do with their expected revenue from the television package isn’t something we’ll have transparency into.
The only reason I bleed is to get the red out of me.
Unwritten Code of ethics...
If Tosh ever comes to me for medical services or surgery that is not standard of practice, I’m going to have to defer him to another hospital…. BUT, I would treat him if he gave me loads of cash a la MJ. MJ died and the doc is in jail.
No, I wouldn’t. Just trying to illustrate a with broad strokes using the baleen of a grey whale.
In other news, money corrupts another soul. As there is nothing else to strive for, he turns to the demise of drugs and failed relationships.
by rollonyoubears111 on Feb 13, 2012 3:09 PM PST reply actions
A couple high points to summarize
I think people are still (and will continue to be for a while) hurting from the whole Tosh situation. But if I wanted to call out some of the more important messages from this Part 1, they are these:
a. Our football program is underfunded as a result of having a budget that has to pay for a number of sports that Sandy Barbour, our AD, implied she would be willing to consider cutting in order to balance the budget across fewer sports; that the message came from the AD directly was interesting to me,
b. Recruiting is a collaboration across multiple coaches, and it wasn’t who left but when they left that had the biggest impact on our recruiting class, because it didn’t leave the school or program enough time to prepare or react the way they wanted to,
c. Related to point a., we’re in the middle of a conference arms race regarding the football budget and incoming television revenue, and if we don’t increase fundraising efforts, we won’t catch up no matter how much television revenue we get (so donate today)
Jorge's casa no es su casa.
Just wanted to say
Thanks for getting all the info on this story! Great job!
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Recruiting
‘No one man or one recruit defines CAL Football…’
Has anyone said that one man has defined CAL Football…Those who complain most about loosing the ball, are usually the ones who dropped it…
Looking at our new policies:
*Student Athletes will Not ‘vet’ a program, using ‘social networks.’
*The pool of student athletes (SA) is wider, deeper and more diverse than ever…
*’Changes’ in the American Family structure are ‘THE’ key to understanding recruiting and coaching…Student-athletes have psychological challenges, not to mention academic and athletic performance and social adjustment issues like never before. And, the social media network exasperates this conundrum…A trusted coach-player relationship is the antidote…
As a ‘recruiter’ it becomes incumbent that one develops informed perspectives on the key issues that can make a difference between consistent/persistent and uncertain recruiting policies.
- For example: Once the SA arrives, on campus, for a visit, the company they keep can become the margin of difference as to weather they will commit or not. *Never stop recruiting your players, even after they have been playing for years…The impressions the existing players have about a coach/program is of paramount importance. Not the impressions the recruit gets while walking around and visiting the campus with staff…
Understand the role of the position coach in evaluating talent… You have to evaluate talent before you can recruit…Coach ‘A’ has been asked to evaluate X’ at some HS…He goes to ’varsity game, walking around with his logo…He expects people to be impressed…
Coach B goes to the frosh game, and the JV game, (in addition), dresses inconspicuously, and asks lots of good questions…Evaluating these young players within allowable guidelines, as well as the target. He is NOT recruiting, he is evaluating…A good evaluator will be able to ‘see’ and predict talent…At some point many parents/athletes will initiate contact with this coach…
*The coach has the interest in the young athlete, and the confidence in his ability to evaluate predictors, and uses this to his advantage developing a relationship over several years…If he is ‘experienced’ he is selling himself, NOT the institution…He wants to ‘see’ if the parents/athlete will make comments about the institution he can build on and/or clarify…Not the other way around…And, if you think selling a 4-5 star recruit on an institution is formidable, try selling a High School sophomore…You will not even try, because you will be concerned about relating to academics as a frosh/soph…So, how do you compete with a coach who has three years of a relationship, because you felt you needed to postpone, by policy…Remember you are selling staff and intuitionist…Not you…How could you fit them into these young prospects, while addressing the senior prospects…You can’t do it…No time!
‘What are the the major studies that represent information about relationships, in recruiting, versus staff and institutional quality based on the reputation of both…And, the school as it relates to academics…What are the conclusions from these studies…What key questions remain unanswered…What/when are the most promising interventions…Where is more research needed about which student-athletes attend any school, and why…we especially need to know more…How does our programs/s in these areas inform a ’theory’ about student-athlete recruiting success…
- How important is the ‘weight of evidence’ approach, which has at its heart, trusted and valued relationship/s…When a coach sells an institution instead of self, has he as much as said, don’t look at me? is the The coach a perceived persona of the institution, or, is it the other way around…Is a prospect most impressed by facilities, the coach, or both? Would his impression of great facilities override feelings of a coach who does not give prompt and mutually meaningful response to personal issues…Do facilities feel comfortable, reassuring, and engaging, or is it about more…The coach?
Are prospects more or less vulnerable in the ‘early’ recruiting process, because every coach has some ‘angle’ about his school being the best place…Location, Academics, Weather…Competition, Tradition…Do the stories meld into one another…
*Is identifying and intervening in a pro-active way about the institution or the coach-player relationship!
*Can the recruiter effectively, intervene, when he does not have a relationship?
*Is the recruiter in the best position to resolve, in the recruits mind; What can will the school do…What can/ will the athletic program do…What can/ will the academic ad-visors do…What ‘family’ feelings exist in the program between coaches and coaches and players and players and coaches and players…What can/ will my position coach do…What high expectations the coach has for the prospect…Or does the institution do this, by involving multiple people and multiple disciplines and hopefully making anyone coaches impact minimal, in case a coach, as Tosh did, bolts in the middle of recruiting taking relationships with him. and/or the prospect looses confidence in both going elsewhere…
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Usually, unwittingly’ working against the recruiter is the academic community.’ They have no clear definition of mutual expectations or any clear definition for success about the football program, or the athlete title, in student-athlete…and/or how to execute the process: They place pressure on the coach to adhere to their ideas about why students come to their institution, forgetting the title student-athlete includes the word athlete…To academia they are just students. Is success to them about Degree attainment; Citizenship; Scholarly Participation; Competitiveness; Wins leading to bowls; Wins at Bowls; BCS or ‘respected’ bowls, Top recruited talent; Developing players; Players in the pros; on and on and on…What is the vision academics has about the student athlete at an institution…Not just the student. To the degree ‘multiple’ definitions of the construct exist, among the academic community at large, the more commonly incorporated elements, already mentioned, that impact decisions and choices, are muddled…And athletic contingents and academic contingents will collide. When the relationship with someone you can trust is transferred to something you must trust, this landscape, would be difficult for Harry Edwards, let alone a 17-18 year old super star to relate to…
Have we developed ‘assumptions’ that do not add up…The arguments already made, if you agree, indicate recruiting is closer to, than farther apart when it comes to any one person defining a program…recruiting is more complicated than selling cars, or finding prospects, predisposed to an institution because the institution is know for its academic prowess…Expecting to build a ‘football program,’ around this concept is not only Naive…it is dangerous…It sounds to a recruit like the coaches are not taking ownership of anything, and when/if it hits the fan, its all on the program…Not the institution…
Thus, the most difficult to measure aspects of recruiting, are the degrees to which prospects ‘themselves’ are satisfied with the experience and feel connected to a coach, not just the institution…Not yet anyway…The coach not the institution is the advocate and proxy they trust, at this vulnerable time…(Prospect)
Relationships ensure that these factors are taken together, at the appropriate time… These precursors all play a role in the prospects ‘impressions’ of ‘institutional quality," over time… With an emphasis on, ’over time…’ Their willingness to engage, the program, is linked directly to an on-going and ‘existing’ player -coach relationship. Defined, by “mutually high expectations…” The degree to which a player integrates and feels comfortable and confident, in the institutional environment, is directly linked to a sense of ‘belonging’ in a purposeful way…It is NOT on the institution with so many people tossed into your lap on a visit, it feels awkward…Your culture as a prospect IS coaches and players…A coach, develops ‘custom’ initiatives based on his relationship with the recruit…
Student-athlete institution and staff engagement directly links to personal development outcomes that confer benefits in writing, speaking, critical thinking, scientific literacy, and quantitative skills.., At a later date in the process…we unwittingly focus on prospects as if they are student-athletes…A ‘prospects’ feelings of self-awareness, confidence, self-worth, social competence, and a SENSE of PURPOSE…Come from the recruiting environment the recruiting coach initiates…Not visiting the institution…
Cognitive development in ‘higher-learning’ outcomes is of great value…That is a wonderful and great product of most University experiences. Selling that value to a 17 – 18 year old super star, is premature…It is a part of the picture one expresses, but the relationship factor is the motivating factor, as it complies with the culture the prospect feels comfortable with and in, that, at this time, he values most.
For this reason, ‘A’ coach, is the person most accountable, and responsible for recruiting success, not the reputation of the institution, and the entire coaching staff…At some moment the prospect will ‘see’ it differently, hopefully, sooner than later, through the student-athlete experience, but imposing our values as ‘experienced’ adults, on kids, (No offense to these young men), is a big mistake…And, ONLY ‘one’ coach can effectively, and efficiently monitor,evaluate, and intervene with ‘custom initiatives,’ with a prospect, and most likely, frosh/soph players…
Policies that compare athletic department, other sports, needs and wants to building a football program, by any institution, are counter-productive…Be it for reasons of politics and/or culture. The differences between football programs and all other sports, are vastly incomparable. Some differences: other sports have coach-player ratios of 2:1 or 3:1 or the coaching requirement has the same application to almost every player, if not every player…As to football with not only 22 different positions, alignments, and more, ’systems and strategies that are all about alignment and assignment…and/ or reaction to systems as well as athletic prowess, is so different, than the sport that is so demure the impact of winning and loosing is irrelevant to the budget. This is automatically filtered by an institution or not…Most 3-5 star recruits want to go to a BCS bowl…So does the athletic community…
We understand that the best ‘predictors’ for athletic performance is a combination of grades, individuals academic preparation, personal aspirations, etc…BUT once the ‘recruiter’ and the recruiting process begins, we must understand that another factor emerges…The personal ‘one-on one’ COACH-ATHLETE-ENGAGEMENT, and high expectations of that Coach…
Side note on the institutions ability to recruit: To our esteemed reporter who is expert on how anyone should do things…Let positive comments about CAL stand as Tosh made them…Why implant the idea to recruits, his comments were contrived, and/or deceptive and disingenuous? This is counter-productive to our coaches recruiting efforts, NOT Tosh…
Go Bears!
emphatic tl;dr
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It was fantastic."
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OK, Tosh leaving (and the way he did it) hurt
But can we please stop talking about him? We were and always will be the University of California Golden Bears. We are NOT the University of California Traitor Toshes. He’s not important enough to mention anymore… Well, unless he steals even more recruits from us. Then we can burn him in effigy.
Also, all this Tosh stuff is taking the focus away from the real issue: Sark’s continued clubbing of baby seals.
by FromCtoShining(Blue)C on Feb 13, 2012 7:38 PM PST reply actions
Any alum who has been working for a while will be familiar with the nuances of organizational behavior and the negative effect that inequity of salary can have on the team.
You mean, like when the head coach makes $2.3m and the top recruiter makes only $160k, or $300k if negotiations work out? Nah, there wouldn’t be any bitterness there: 2.3 vs. .3.
If JT wanted TL there, he could have yielded salary. Or kept the OregonGate situation more silent.
At then end of the day, we didn’t sell enough VCR’s and the buck stops at the CEO.
A coach cannot yield his supplemental salary. That is a violation of NCAA bylaws.
Mark Richt got Georgia a bunch of secondary violations for exactly what you’re suggesting.
by Avinash Kunnath on Feb 14, 2012 2:04 AM PST up reply actions
Hey Avinash
You’re getting spilt milk in your tears
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UCLA
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Sat 10/29 | L 14 - 31 |
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Washington St.
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Sat 11/05 | W 30 - 7 |
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Oregon St.
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Sat 11/12 | W 23 - 6 |
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Stanford
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Sat 11/19 | L 28 - 31 |
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Arizona St.
|
Fri 11/25 | W 47 - 38 |
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Texas
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Wed 12/28 | L 10 - 21 |
