Cal 77, Oregon 60: Crabbe, Jorge. Jorge, Crabbe
by norcalnick on Jan 8, 2012 6:37 PM PST
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PrintAfter an ugly first half full of unforced turnovers and iffy defensive rebounding, the Bears put the hammer down in a dominant second half performance. Allen Crabbe hit nearly every shot he took from all over the court, Jorge did everything else, and the Bears defense shut down the Ducks.
I wanted to see one thing in this game: good, consistent defense for 40 minutes. The Bears emphatically delivered, holding Oregon to 38% shooting. E.J. Singler and Devoe Joseph hit the occasional 3, but by-and-large nobody in grey ever got going on the offensive end.
Two guys got going on offense for the Bears: 18 points and 7 assists for Jorge, 26 points for Allen Crabbe (23 in the 2nd half!). And our reward? We don't have to see the Bears play on that hideous court for another year. Garrett Sim will have to wait a few months to try to record his first win ever against the Bears.
This is your post-game thread. Check back for a longer recap tomorrow morning. Go Bears!
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There is something to that
In all honesty, I don’t mind it when you’re looking at it with nothing going on. But when you’re trying to watch basketball it gets annoying and distracting.
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
I don't mind it so much...
…now that they fixed the half court lline so it’s visible. But yeah it’s way better in HD…
That is literally the only good thing about NATT Court
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Jan 8, 2012 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
Although Jorge and Crabbe were 1a and 1b
Solomon made a huge difference. Kamp and Kravish were too small to deal inside with Oregon’s bigs. Solo was not.
I think Cal was approximately +20 or so with him on the floor.
I only picked up with about 10 minutes to go
Got distracted by a retro on the 2002 Olympics.
From what I saw, this is exactly right. He’s developed into a very strong shotblocker and it was evident that Oregon was skittish about going inside against him. When he was out there, it was pretty much jumper after jumper.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
I should add
that Kravish is a very solid shotblocker too, but he’s still too skinny as yet to impose that on players that he’s guarding, rather than helping onto.
Hopefully he will build up his frame some over the next few years and become an elite defender.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
Kravish on Man Defense
I remember only 1 play close to the basket where Kravish was pushed away and his man scored easily. Generally Kravish did an excellent job on his man, even blocking his shots.
He is certainly thin, but he is fast and competitive, with excellent footwork and does not get faked off his feet. Taking nothing away from Solomon, I wish that he could learn not to be faked into the air by watching Kravish.
Looking at the box score
Justin, Allen, Jorge each with 37 minutes. I was fooled somewhat by the fact the 2nd half felt like a blowout and Emerson/Powers got some minutes early. This followed 37 and 38 for Allen and Jorge on Thursday. I know Smitty has his detractors, but I continue to believe he’s a solid P12 point guard (I realize his confidence and decisions have been shaky lately), and that getting solid minutes from him are critical to keeping the odometer slow on our starters. Get well soon.
Solo with 10 boards in 17 minutes is remarkable, and doesn’t even tell the story of the difference he makes on D.
I continue to believe that if we get and remain fully healthy we are the class of this conference, and that 14-4 is a realistic upper end expectation. Nothing about the P12 roller coaster of the first couple weeks has changed my mind on that.
Agreed. I hope Rossi can get into game shape by February or so (although it’s probably not happening), but he would add another swing man we could really use and help us stretch the floor and make us more potent offensively. Our ceiling probably goes up another game if that happens.
by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 8, 2012 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
Jorge, Crabbe, Jorge, Crabbe
they both had huge games, but this was a team win…I’d say you need to insert Cobbs and Solo in the title somewhere
Jorge Again the Man
When no one else was in rhythm—as usual—Jorge plays a huge role on both ends of the court, keeping us in the game. No one else does so many critical things for this team. This game could well have gotten ugly for the Bears without Jorge’s game in the first half.
Certainly it was a great team victory and almost everyone that played contributed to it. That is a tribue to the team as a whole and to Monty.
Jorge is not sufficient alone, but he is indispensable, particularly at the tough moments.
Great win...
….and their court looks like an unflushed toilet.
Go Bears!
Echo so much here. Such a great and satisfying win. Felt quite uneasy in the fist half because a close game goes to the home team so often, and the Oregun D was good enough and we were settling for perimeter passing and long shots. But the second half was a thing of beauty all around. Our defense stayed strong, and our offense started to work. Crabbe came alive and that was all it took.
I scream from the rooftops how much I love Monty Ball! I LOVE MONTY BALL! Watching us dismantle UCLA, and this Oregun squad, with such systematic passing and play without the ball, is truly a privilege, an honor, a joy, to behold. And the contrast with the scoring done by other teams is so stark…it makes the comparison so beautiful in Cal and Monty’s favor that I am just thrilled he coaches our Bears. Watching us play, you would think every kid would want to play for Cal, and to truly learn how to play the game of basketball.
I wasn’t aware Wisconsin was playing!
no bear, no care
by EchoOfSilence on Jan 8, 2012 10:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Amen!
Calbear91, I could not agree more about Monty Ball, the best thing by far to happen to Cal basketball since Newell.
To his good health and many more years at Cal!
If this happens, the recruiting certainly will pick up, and so will attendance.
It is truly amazing how he gets across to his players how to play the game. Many coaches are probably close to him in what they see in a game and what they want their teams to do, but somehow Monty really succeeds in creating a team, where others simply do not, that buys into his vision and executes it.
Makes you wonder about Sim
Considering the announcers mentioned he chose to decommit from Cal when Braun left and Monty came. I wonder what was going through his head to leave such a smart coach like Monty for Ernie Kent.
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by Joe Bandsmen on Jan 8, 2012 11:07 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure where you're getting this "good coach = good recruiting" thing
First off, Cal’s recruiting has been fairly poor under Montgomery so far. In three and a half years, he’s only really gotten five good players (six if you count Cobbs as a “recruit”, which is fair, I guess): Jorge, MSF (and that’s stretching it; he was more average than “good”), Crabbe, Solomon and Kravish. Of the remainder, Rossi’s an enigma because of injuries, Behrens is a lottery ticket at best, Smith a role player (albeit a useful one), Franklin a total headcase, and Bak and Murray look like they won’t do much.
That’s not a very high hit rate (50%). What’s more, the best of those groups was two years ago.
Second, I’m not sure big-time players want to play for Montgomery-style coaches. Chuckleheads like Jabari Brown are never going to buy into a system that requires actual disciplined play.
What’s more achievable— and what I hope will eventually become the norm, rather than wasting half the scholarships on speculative acquisitions with a low probability of panning out— is something like Wisconsin, i.e. a mix of 3 and 4 star players who buy in to the system and mostly stay for the full four years. But, like I said, he’s going to have to pick up the pace somewhat to achieve that.
I’m even more cynical about attendance, so let’s not even get into that…
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
I’m anxious to hear what Zena does.
If he comes, then we’re adding Kreklow, Wallace, and Zena next year, and we’d be on a reasonable recruiting trajectory. Furthermore, he fills what projects to be a gaping need, and he’s not a “chucklehead”…in fact, quite the opposite, he seems like a perfect fit for our school and system.
If he doesn’t, then way too much is riding on either Rodriguez coming out of nowhere, or Monty and the staff pulling a plan C out of a hat.
Yes, it would be preferable if we had more irons in the fire and/or someone else already committed…but I’m feeling vaguely optimistic…maybe.
I looked around on Google
and saw that he essentially has committed to Harvard if he can academically qualify there.
And, of course, there’s hardly a guarantee he would come to Cal if he didn’t… considering that the other offers I’m seeing are UCLA, Texas, USC and Washington.
I suppose anything can happen, in theory, but this is really pushing it.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
Not sure why you feel the need to automatically tear down everything I say, but (and I mean this constructively) this would be a lot better place if people talked to each other instead of instinctively taking a pedantic kick toward the groin every time. Especially since I was basically agreeing with you.
Anyway, my take on his recruiting is that it’s open and we’re a legitimate contender. This was posted last week and is in his own words.
I don’t hear anything there that’s a commitment to Harvard, nor that indicates my hoping he comes to Cal is “really pushing it.” The reports from his visit in October were favorable. Academics are important to him, which I think would give us an edge on a few schools on the list. He would also be almost guaranteed immediate playing time next year.
Do I think we’re a favorite? No, but I’m not sure anyone is right now, and I think we’re realistically in the mix. I also think getting him would dramatically change the makeup of this recruiting class.
While we’re talking about him, everything about the kid, including that interview, makes me really like him for the Cal program.
Attendance
I would say that the first two games, against USC and UCLA, particularly against USC, were encouraging. UCLA is always a good draw.
We shall see if a fairly large crowd materializes against Colorado. If it does, that will be a good sign that the Bear bandwagon is beginning to roll.
I understand your cynicism about attendance, but winning is the cure-all. It may take some time, but if Monty can win at a nationally significant level, more fans will come.
Your concern about recruiting is shared by most of us. Still early to get too down on Monty for that. Maybe he still adds someone valuable for next year.
My life as an A's fan has pretty emphatically demonstrated to me that winning is not a cure-all
If a fanbase sucks, it sucks. Winning might bring a few more people out, but ultimately, demand for sports is pretty inelastic.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
A's Attendance and Cal Basketball Attendance
Attendance for major league baseball in SF and Oakland ought to be bad, because baseball ought not to be played in the frigid night weather that prevails here almost all summer long.
Coming from near Chicago, where we would go to night games in t-shirts and shorts, I was shocked by the nasty, cold weather here, and soon swore off attending. In Chicago, I would take in maybe 20 games a year, mostly at night.
So I would argue that basketball is different, as the weather is not a factor. Everyone loves a winner and if Cal basketball comes to be perceived in that light, better attendance will reflect the changed perception.
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