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According to his father, WR Kenny Walker will sign with #UCLA tomorrow

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They've been mostly mediocre in the Neuheisel and Dorrell years

Why do all these recruits want to go to UCLA despite their non-success? I’m really curious…

by Jigglz on Jan 31, 2012 8:41 PM PST reply actions  

most people are wondering the same thing, about California.

by JustBear on Jan 31, 2012 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I think their floppage is a bit more epic than ours though.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

at least

he is not going to Udub

by Xan101 on Jan 31, 2012 8:50 PM PST reply actions  

UW just bought UCLA and is bringing the whole school north...

Sarkesian claims he’s just speeding up the inevitable Pacific plate continental drift northwards…

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research."

by Auricursine on Jan 31, 2012 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Welp, that opens up another spot

For an actual Golden Bear. Dozier, Treggs, Powe, Harper, Lawler, Diggs? Step right up, gentlemen!

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 8:53 PM PST reply actions  

I completely agree and would much rather have Lawler than Walker.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

This is a thing.

A thing that deserves to be green.

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It was fantastic."
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by AERose on Jan 31, 2012 9:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah that is funny, that was a real credible “source”.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks done.

http://www.twitter.com/James_Escarcega

This was just posted by Kenny Walker on Facebook: “ya boy will b goin to ucla….happy bowt ma decision….”
More from Walker: “thank u god fo sending me all da signs you can so i can choose wts best for me …UCLA lets go baby.”

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 9:05 PM PST reply actions  

i wonder what signs God sent to him.

by JustBear on Jan 31, 2012 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

well I'm assuming it wasn't £ or ¢...

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by VandyImport on Jan 31, 2012 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

all of the signs.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

No

all da signs

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

watch list

Beaver
Kourtzidis
Justin Davidson
Ford
Markuss
Fanaika
K Lawler
Treggs

by Xan101 on Jan 31, 2012 9:09 PM PST reply actions  

Technically Diggs is still out there and has hypothetical interest in Cal.

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by norcalnick on Jan 31, 2012 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Wish Walker the best; UCLA needs WRs

Not sure this is a big loss with Dozier in and the possibility of adding Lawler.

by Art Vandelet on Jan 31, 2012 9:13 PM PST reply actions  

I agree; a WR class of Dozier, Treggs, Harper, Powe, and if we get Lawler is a great class.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 10:08 PM PST up reply actions  

This was posted on his Facebook page minutes before his status about UCLA
man wen u really think they want chu… they really dnt…….its a difference betwwen want nd need….found that out today…..haha they so full of it it…….i knw wer im going nw nd im happy bowt ma decision…..back stabbs.lol…haha

by TKM399 on Jan 31, 2012 9:16 PM PST reply actions  

so he’s saying, he thinks Cal doesn’t need him?

by JustBear on Jan 31, 2012 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh say what?

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 31, 2012 9:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

oh heavenly father

forget about football we need this guy for literature.

by Xan101 on Jan 31, 2012 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Give this guy a Nobel prize!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t order a pizza…

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Who’s there?

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I have an xbox and jumbacos wanna come to udub?

#doomgang

by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 31, 2012 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Where is my pizza!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Commit to Cal 3 times then decommit on signing day and I’ll give you your pizza.

#doomgang

by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 31, 2012 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I dunno man. What else you got?

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

We can play Goldeneye than chat on aim after your mom thinks you are asleep!

Tee Hee

#doomgang

by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 31, 2012 9:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmmm. I’m more interested in fishing and sailing, actually…

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

“Back stabbs lol” is what happened to Cal, buddy.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Makes no sense...

We lose Payton, but keep Dozier, and he’s whining that we didn’t want him?

Did and would have Cal pulled its scholarship offer?

He was one that I was on the fence about anyway, it’s just funny that he’s claiming he needs to run away from Cal and not choosing to go to uclol…

"To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is
research."

by Auricursine on Jan 31, 2012 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Just did.

But I love how 17/18 year olds demand respect.

"To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is
research."

by Auricursine on Jan 31, 2012 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he’s talking about UW, which was his first choice of schools to decommit to.

Then Payton and Mickens gave their verbals, and it was clear he wasn’t a priority for the Huskies.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Then that’s on Tosh.

Good, spread that backstab.

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research."

by Auricursine on Jan 31, 2012 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

WTF kind of fucked up plans are Sark and his coaches dreaming up on their riverboats?

#doomgang

by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 31, 2012 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope Eddie DeBartolo has nothing to do with their riverboat schemes

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahhh, well, that’s not surprising then. UW is Backstab U.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

You cant spell Backstawbu without UW!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

U-dubya, more like U-backstabya, amirite?

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I pringled.

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- alpha1906

by golden oso on Jan 31, 2012 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha, I just typed that as well and I think you are right

UW fuckec him over so he decided to go to ucla, doesn’t make sense but little does in recruiting.

I would think that UW pulling an offer would be a sign from god to stay with Cal.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Hooray for high school drama!

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by norcalnick on Jan 31, 2012 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

on Glee night too!

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by Auricursine on Jan 31, 2012 9:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps he was talking about UW? Wasn’t UW recruiting him as well, WTF am I saying? Of course they were recruiting him!

Seriously didn’t he take a visit to UW and didn’t he change his current city status on FB to Seattle?at least I believe I read a rumor that he did that.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

… with grammar like that, I’m glad he’s not going to Cal.

Feels bad, man.

by Swamphunter on Jan 31, 2012 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

He wouldn’t have passed the 6-unit writing class in his first year anyways — let him be a bruin.

by coolingfan on Jan 31, 2012 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

oh man, the 6 unit College Writing course. It intimidated me when i saw “6 units” but the load demand wasn’t that bad.

by JustBear on Jan 31, 2012 11:24 PM PST up reply actions  

If I can interpret twitter correctly...

And that’s a big if, but I think Beaver just tweeted this…

“we play em 11/10 in seattle”

In response to when Utah plays Washington next season. Unless he’s just messing with people, it looks like he’s going to Utah.

by ben10damn on Jan 31, 2012 9:56 PM PST reply actions  

I mean, I’m not sure how else it could be interpreted…

by ben10damn on Jan 31, 2012 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

eh, whatever. we’ll know for sure in about half a day. I’m gonna stop stressing over tweets by recruits starting… Now.

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

RT @Del_Mcc Lmaoo @B_2times don’t know what he just got hiself into by saying “we” ahah goodluck bro. " lmao.i aint.mean it.like.that

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 10:00 PM PST up reply actions  

what? NO idea what he’s saying… and since when have periods replaced spaces in sentences??

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

He was commenting on his concern about the recent austerity measures being forced upon Greece by Germany and other European countries… ;o)

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research."

by Auricursine on Jan 31, 2012 10:14 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

ah. why didn’t I see it before??

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 11:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Translation

His Utah-bound friend Delshawn pointed out that Beaver’s going to cause a stir by saying “we” in response to his post, and Beaver replied by saying that ha, he didn’t mean it that
way.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s making a comment about the nature of corporeal mime, whose objective is to place drama inside the moving human body, rather than to substitute gesture for speech as in pantomime.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Twist is a graduate of UC Berkeley’s College of Letters and Clowning.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

It's William Shatner speaking Esperanto...

(I hope I can finally properly post a video link!)

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by Auricursine on Jan 31, 2012 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwp6B05JyyI

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by Auricursine on Jan 31, 2012 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Incubus was the second feature film primarily using Esperanto ever made. The first, Angoroj (Esperanto for Agonies) appeared in 1964, two years earlier. Esperanto speakers are generally disappointed by the pronunciation of the language by the cast of Incubus.2

Hahahahahaha

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by AERose on Jan 31, 2012 11:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I HATE TWITTER SO MUCH

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by MR.F. on Jan 31, 2012 10:23 PM PST up reply actions  

#trudat

"To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is
research."

by Auricursine on Jan 31, 2012 10:31 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Staying up late, swapping manly stories...

And in the morning, Brian Treggs be making waffles! :o( From Faraudo in the CC Times:

The late news is that Adam Gorney of Rivals reports that USC has offered Cal long-time commit Bryce Treggs and says he will seriously consider the Trojans, Bears and UCLA. The senior from St. John Bosco HS in Bellflower plans to make his announcement Wednesday afternoon.

Treggs, whose father Brian starred for the Bears, may simply be confused given the upheaval surrounding Cal recruiting. Who could blame him? It would be surprising if any 18-year-old wasn’t confused by all that is happening.

But Treggs is a five-star Scout.com prospect and Jeff Tedford cannot afford another piece of bad news.

/blockquote>

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by Auricursine on Jan 31, 2012 10:34 PM PST reply actions  

Faraudo’s a great basketball reporter, but with regards to recruiting he just reports what everyone else reports.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

That guy has to cover everything now.

by JustBear on Jan 31, 2012 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Damariay Drew struggles.

First he tweets this:

Got some thinkin to do

Then 45 minutes later:

We all we got we all we need is what kept me strong to #calgang today almost made a bad choice but I’m goin to cal and can’t wait

What fun!

At least Markuss Eligwe is seriously considering Cal:

I probably won’t even sleep tonight truthfully I dont think I can. #AllNighter

I always wondered what Twitter was for. Now I am sad to know. Follow all the fun at https://twitter.com/#!/jlamkin/cal-football-recruiting.

by MBbear on Jan 31, 2012 10:37 PM PST reply actions  

Hmm

http://www.twitter.com/RGBearTerritory

Despite a last-minute push for Damariay Drew by Lupoi and UW tonight, Damariay Drew is “solid with the #CalGang … Cal’s my dream school”
Lupoi touted UW’s graduation rates over that of Cal’s, while trying to pull Drew away.
Recruits say this is not the first time Lupoi has talked UW grad rates since leaving Cal.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 10:38 PM PST reply actions  

UW’s football grad rates are higher because a lot of Cal’s players have left early for the draft.

by hunger on Jan 31, 2012 10:39 PM PST up reply actions  

lol and also great you graduated from uw now what, manage a blockbuster?

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by GoldBlooded on Jan 31, 2012 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

You shut your mouth, culinary academy is going to steal all our recruits tomorrow!

#doomgang

by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 31, 2012 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

FUCK YOU CORDON BLEU

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by GoldBlooded on Jan 31, 2012 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

…some of us are Alumnus.

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by Maisbikkja on Feb 1, 2012 2:13 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Did you know Academy Of Arts University has an athletic program?

I hope none of our recruits can draw

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

It truly makes me wonder how in the hell Lupoi ever managed to graduate from Cal…

Maybe he took classes from the professor who helped out Davenport and Ainsworth.

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by Auricursine on Jan 31, 2012 10:41 PM PST up reply actions  

he faked sickness and got away with exams.

by JustBear on Jan 31, 2012 10:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Also injuries, personal reasons, high standards, et cetera.

by hunger on Jan 31, 2012 10:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I dont keep track of UW players

but Cal has had someone leave early for NFL every year.
2011 Vereen (actually Vereen graduated in 3.5 years! while being a significant contributor since Freshman year)
2010 Best
2009 Morrah
2008 Jackson
2007 Lynch

by JustBear on Jan 31, 2012 10:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Add all those that left for the NFL after playing for four years, but before they completed their degree.

by MBbear on Jan 31, 2012 11:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Grad rates are higher b/c they’re not on the same level academically either.

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Is Lupoi seriously trying to flip all of our recruits? It feels that way at least. He must really relate well to the kids cause they all seem to buy what he is selling, no matter what it is.

by ben10damn on Jan 31, 2012 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

If the recruits think that they can’t make it academically at Cal and would need to attend an easier school, then I am fine with them not coming.

by LEastCoastBears on Jan 31, 2012 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Deeper look ...

UW’s rates have in fact generally been higher:

2000 cohort: Cal 52, UW 64
2001 cohort: Cal 53, UW 65
2002 cohort: Cal 64, UW 69
2003 cohort: Cal 65, UW 82
2004 cohort: Cal 54, UW 76

But, given some of the cohorts are as small as around 20 people, we’re sometimes talking differences of like 1-2 people per year. E.g., 12/20=60, 13/20=65, 14/20=70.

In fact, just taking the most recent cohort as an example (I’m too lazy to do this for the other years), the difference is not statistically significant. E.g., assuming 11 of Cal’s 19 commits graduated, and 17 of UW’s 23 commits graduated, I get a p value of 0.44. (Note the proportions for those fractions are a little off the percents quoted above, but that’s probably due to different cohort sizes used in the numbers reported by the NCAA due to transfers etc.)

Of course, this discussion was probably not included in Sark’s PowerPoint presentation

by hunger on Jan 31, 2012 11:24 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

While our numbers do not make me happy (and the NFL thing seems to just be a facile explanation for a deeper problem), if a kid is serious about academics then Tosh is doing them a disservice with this pitch.

Anyone who’s serious about graduating is going to graduate. 90% of the student body and 81% of student athletes graduate in six years. The better questions for someone who’s serious about school concern the quality of the student’s education and the value of the student’s degree. One school decisively wins that comparison by most objective measures.

I’m sure it’s under the guise of something like “academic support” or “team environment,” but the message Tosh is really sending to a kid by saying this is you can’t succeed over there, but you’ll succeed over here because we give you more help. That’s great for a kid’s self-confidence.

Just. Sleazy.

by Reef on Jan 31, 2012 11:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually, the differences appear to be mostly due to chance.

by hunger on Jan 31, 2012 11:47 PM PST up reply actions  

… Obviously, actual differences are not due to chance. But, in a “philosophical” sense, the numbers actually do not suggest UW players are more likely to graduate than Cal players.

by hunger on Jan 31, 2012 11:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, if it’s the difference between our football players and student body and/or student athletes across the board, then it seems to be systematic. And that’s a problem.

But if you’re talking about the differences between us and them, then I agree. And more importantly, like I said, completely irrelevant to a recruit who actually cares. I guarantee the graduation rates of kids who take academics seriously, as opposed to a tool to staying eligible, are astronomical.

by Reef on Jan 31, 2012 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I guarantee the graduation rates of kids who take academics seriously, as opposed to a tool to staying eligible, are astronomical.

Agreed, but my point is you don’t even need that explanation. As it is, ignoring any other considerations, the evidence does not support the notion that UW players are more likely to graduate.

by hunger on Jan 31, 2012 11:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with everything you’re saying, but what I’m asking is why should this even be relevant to a recruit who would care?

It might be relevant to the parent of a kid who does not take school seriously. Or who has a learning disability. Or who’s otherwise in danger of slipping through the cracks.

But unless the rates are 10% to 90%, then it just doesn’t matter to any kid who cares enough to ask the question.

by Reef on Feb 1, 2012 12:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Tosh is now comparing graduation rates?
Recruits must be thinking, “but I thought u told us Cal degree is worth a lot more than a degree from UW.”

by JustBear on Feb 1, 2012 12:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I always find graduation rates to be a bit curious. I would consider an 70% graduation rate of engineering, math, and science majors a greater accomplishment than a 95% graduation rate in lib arts like american studies, art history, etc.

by chowder on Jan 31, 2012 11:48 PM PST up reply actions  

My point is that simply using graduation rates is silly. One needs to also find out what they are graduating with.

by chowder on Jan 31, 2012 11:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, the degree matters, but the fact of graduating and obtaining a degree has an importance in and of itself.

by Reef on Jan 31, 2012 11:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Wouldn’t pointing out graduation rates seem demeaning to a kid too? As in, "Hey, look at how easy it is to graduate here. You’d actually do well here as opposed to that school that’s hard to graduate from.’ << implied that you might be too dumb to get the better degree??

Also, if he wants to graduate easily he should head to ASU…

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 11:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree that it is a bit demeaning, it is like saying you can’t compete with all these smart kids in the classroom so why try?

However, I believe the way Tosh would paint it is that Cal and Tedford let kids down in the classroom or care enough about them to help them graduate. Come here to UW where we make sure all our kids graduate, just look at this data!

by SDBear on Feb 1, 2012 12:02 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I hesitate to draw complete conclusions, because most of the evidence is just rumor, but it’s looking more and more like Tosh will say anything to land a recruit…and that he’s just being a sleazeball in general.

by Reef on Feb 1, 2012 12:09 AM PST up reply actions  

So more help = better? More expensive tutors = better? It’s almost like they’re hooking them up with passing grades… If you need lots of help to graduate, you honestly shouldn’t be in college. I understand that student-athletes have other large time commitments, but really? That’s what academic standards are for, to weed out the kids that wouldn’t be able to cut it in school.

by stevvy89 on Feb 1, 2012 12:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the sad reality is that college football is way past the academic standards and rigor you’re advocating.

by Reef on Feb 1, 2012 12:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Tosh doesn't even have to say anything about more help or expensive tutors

If Tosh is using negative recruiting tactics to get kids and their parents to come to UW abd nkt Cal and Tosh wants to use academics to land them he can do it a number of ways.

Tosh comes in to a kid that Cal is recruiting, he says something to the kid “I bet Tedford and his staff tried to sell you on Cals academics, didn’t he?”

kid nods his head yes.

Tosh says something like “well I know how it really works at Cal and Tedford is telling you and your parents a lot of lies!”

Tosh continues “truth is once you get to Cal Tedford and his staff will not care about your academics at all and do not care whether you graduate or not from Cal, they only care about their futures and winning games!”

Tosh continues “if you don’t believe me, look at these graduation rate number.”

The following day the kid is tweeting about UWs graduation rate as a reason he picked UW over Cal.

by SDBear on Feb 1, 2012 12:23 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Academic standards are set up to make sure each student at Berkeley receives an education representative of the quality offered by the University of California. The will and desire, or lack thereof, of each student, will decide whether a “kid will be able to cut it in school”. Student-athletes at the college level show that will and desire on the field of play. Tutors are here to help them focus their attention when they are off the field, so they have that Berkeley education when the college game is finally done.

by Basses88 on Feb 1, 2012 12:34 AM PST up reply actions  

UW grads probably have no idea what your post just said

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by TwistNHook on Feb 1, 2012 6:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, isn't that special.

We now have evidence Tosh is using inside info of the Cal program to negative recruit against us.

by chowder on Jan 31, 2012 11:44 PM PST up reply actions  

to be fair

graduation rates aren’t exactly inside info

by Sponge100 on Feb 1, 2012 5:29 AM PST up reply actions  

According to BI

I guess Tosh is sharing Cal players’ grades with recruits.

by iVinshe on Jan 31, 2012 11:11 PM PST reply actions  

While I don’t doubt that Tosh would stoop this low, I think this is just a baseless rumor.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Not sure about that; the moment the guy mentioned it on the Growls board, everyone got on his case about sharing sensitive information from the Insiders board…

by iVinshe on Jan 31, 2012 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s so sleazy. HEY EVERYBODY! THE COLLEGE OF ENGINEERING’S AVERAGE GRADE POINT AVERAGE IS LOWER AT CAL THAN UW’s. BETTER GO TO UW!

If I have taken anything from Cal is that who you meet and the relationships you build, will outlast grades, tests, or rankings

by goldenbraclasps on Jan 31, 2012 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting, mods just deleted the thread. Similar inklings, though not quite as substantive, can be found at the scout site.

by iVinshe on Jan 31, 2012 11:40 PM PST up reply actions  

W T F

Was the content the same on scout and BI?

#doomgang

by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 31, 2012 11:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Content was similar. On BI it was from someone with Insider access; people immediately blew up at Insider info being shared. Someone else later asked for more, and a portion of another (Duck fan?) person’s post on the Cal scout site was posted.

by iVinshe on Jan 31, 2012 11:50 PM PST up reply actions  

The Scout site’s post seems less credible; the BI post looked bad (as in, for Tosh).

by iVinshe on Jan 31, 2012 11:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Nautical espionage yo!

#doomgang

by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 31, 2012 11:53 PM PST up reply actions  

And now there’s a thread about the deleted thread.

by iVinshe on Feb 1, 2012 12:03 AM PST up reply actions  

So basically he took some data/list of players’ grades on his way out a few weeks ago and used the grades to share with recruits?

#doomgang

by Redonkulous Bear on Feb 1, 2012 12:06 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s…… Fucking ILLEGAL. Straight up.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 31, 2012 11:27 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

This is complete BS

It is against the law. Literally. I believe it is FERPA Section 9 or 10

by chowder on Jan 31, 2012 11:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay . . .

If there is ANY truth to this at all, I fully expect the University of California and the students affected to seek justice and Tosh is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Also, if Sark knew about the allegations, I hope the NCAA comes down so hard on UW that the SC sanctions look like child play in comparison.

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by AndyHogan14 on Feb 1, 2012 1:29 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

So.... that debate about Charlie Collins v. Wes Chandler

Seems like we might have both on the staff. I don’t really know how that will work considering coaching numbers and whatnot.

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by chowder on Jan 31, 2012 11:42 PM PST reply actions  

Collins on training staff

#doomgang

by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 31, 2012 11:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow. this is just GREAT. awesome coaching move…. assuming he’s be able to coach the kids in some way

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 11:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Regardless

He’s coached Stefon Diggs some.

by chowder on Jan 31, 2012 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Does this mean Collins can recruit for us? I assume he would meet with recruits on officials, but would he be allowed to actively go out and do it?

by JerseyBear on Jan 31, 2012 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

What’s the difference between training staff and coaching staff?!?

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Feb 1, 2012 12:07 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Working with Blasquez?

#doomgang

by Redonkulous Bear on Feb 1, 2012 12:08 AM PST up reply actions  

so i guess it wouldnt have mattered if we hired Collins or not, to get Payton.

by JustBear on Jan 31, 2012 11:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Regarding Kenny Walker

I don’t mind losing him, and its not because I think he is a lesser talent or anything (I fully admit I can’t tell the difference between a great recruit and an average one by highlight films), but rather growing up in Richmond and going to school in Berkeley is a bit of a disservice to the student. College should be about learning new things, and part of that learning is experiencing a different area. To clarify, different parts of the bay area definitely have a different feel, and I don’t think Kline is doing a disservice as the Diablo Valley and Berkeley are quite different. Same is true for all of the Bay except Richmond – Oakland (in my humble opinion)

by chowder on Jan 31, 2012 11:55 PM PST reply actions  

Depends on how much he stays in Berkeley. The feel is quite different, but Berkeley is still close enough to Richmond for any potential undesirable influences to continue.

by WolverBear on Feb 1, 2012 12:02 AM PST up reply actions  

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