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Cedric Dozier Sticks With Cal, Jordan Payton Switches From Cal To Washington

First up, Wide Receiver Jordan Payton announces his college decision at 1:10 PM. You can watch it at ESPNU. Here is the online ESPN360 channel for ESPNU.

Word on the street is that Jordan Payton, who previously did choose Cal, will not choose Cal when it is time to put pen to paper. But those are all just rumors and innuendo right now. Hope springs eternal!

UPDATE: As expected, Payton switches from Cal to Washington.

That is at 1:10. At 2:30, Athlete Cedric Dozier will make his college decision. He is between Cal and Washington State. The News Tribune, out of Tacoma, WA, will try to webcast the announcement. It appears that the webcast might be listed here. We'll keep an eye out for it and try to edit in a link if we can find a direct one as the time approaches.

UPDATE: Dozier commits to Cal once more. GO BEARS! (Read up on our original story here.)

So, use this thread to discuss the two announcements. Hopefully, Cal will go 2-2, although there are serious concerns that that will not happen. GO BEARS!

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I'm with you

This year has been a crazy year in terms of de-commits and change of hearts – not just for our recruits but many places around the nation. Maybe we’re just destined to be a perennial decent team, but it is what it is and at the end of the day, we only need the players who want to be here anyways and we do our best to fill the stadium and cheer.

I feel like I’ve been watching this male version of “Housewives of NCAA” show. Time to turn off the damn TV.

We all we got, we all we need

by mantle0 on Jan 31, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

Maybe it’s the internet hyped world (twitter is crazy), but I just don’t feel like kids get the same upbringing that they used to. No loyalty to local teams. I have friends who kids have latched onto players more than teams and the teams they like are way outside of the Bay Area.

Seems like a lot of kids don’t care much about college and want the easy road to the NFL. Not sure what the average career is there, but it can’t be much more than 3-4 years IF they make it. It’s not as much about winning on the next level, but about where can I get myself exposed for the level after that.

by nischwartz on Jan 31, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

If that is the case, then UW shouldn't be an option...

Cal and USC are West Coast NFL gold mines.

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by bigboneded on Jan 31, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be fine by me . . .

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by AndyHogan14 on Jan 31, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

getting through school

It’s certainly easier to get through college elsewhere than Cal. While we have the same NCAA admission standards as all other schools, it’s not as easy to pass 24 units each year (and minimum 8 in the fall) as other schools.

We’ve had our share of academic casualty over the years…

by mantle0 on Jan 31, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s the tweets.

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 31, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

This.

So very much this^^^.

So much energy by Cal fans is being wasted on spilt milk. In the end, it’s all about the Ws and Ls, not who you ink or don’t ink to a LOI.

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by FiatSlug on Jan 31, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah…but there’s no real football until septermber-ish…so it’s like the last chance to obsess for months…so i can see the “competition.”

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

But… but… Obama just told us that it made sense to cry over spilt milk!

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

con troll face…

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

what he really told us is that if you’re POTUS it’s cool to tell a wonderfully lame joke!

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

If you do it right :)

Though, Gawker actually wrote up a good article about why the milk rule actually did make some sense.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

every stupid rule makes some sort of convoluted sense to somebody.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

It wasn’t particularly convoluted, actually.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not going to read that. just give me three bullet points ;-)

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

1. Tosh Lupoi loves spilled milk

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Repeal that bullshit!

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I didnt even give you 2 and 3?

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

you never follow directions.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

1. A lot of times we’re talking about not just some milk, but hundreds or thousands of gallons.
2. When it leaks in that vast quantity, it can contaminate the environment in a major way that requires a lot of money to clean up and can cause major problems in the meantime (ex. from the article: caused a wastewater plant malfunction which released sewage, suffocated fish, shut down a lake for a year, etc…)
3. There are many, many examples in the fairly recent past where these types of incidents have happened.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I doubt these actually justify hazmat interaction though.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know enough about the extent of the regulations, and I’m sure they could stand to be reformed, but they’re not as stupid and pointless as Obama’s joke made them out to be, is all.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

now i am going to have to go and read it to pick it apart ;-)

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Is the rule specifically tailored for these MEGA spills? Or is it so broad as to cause great disconveience regarding minor spills?

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

[shrug]

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

JORDAN RODGERS HAS A BROTHER?!? IS HE ANY GOOD?!?

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by Ohio Bear on Jan 31, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

nah…i can do what he can do.

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

We just love the DOOOOOOOM and PAAAAAIIIIIIINNNN

Why do we keep doing this to ourselves?

If a kid is listed as 50/50 with us and another schools that really means he isn’t coming to Cal.

If a kid isn’t currently enrolled in Cal, chances are he will not honor his committment to Cal.

If a kid put a Cal hat on during an All Star game, that is the kiss of death and he really will not be coming to Cal.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 12:55 PM PST reply actions  

CGB, you're such an enabler.

Stop feeding this addiction, please =/

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 12:58 PM PST reply actions  

Payton has decommitted

And it doesn’t look like Cal is even in the final running…

https://twitter.com/#!/CraigHaubert/status/164449097640706048

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by secret ASian man on Jan 31, 2012 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

This just keeps getting better and better!

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck To$h

I thought I was over him.

No I’m not.

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by secret ASian man on Jan 31, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Keep on fucking. I like that.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

at this point

i’m hoping for UCLA or USC

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by nativeson on Jan 31, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope he goes down to UCLA and rots

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by crazedfan on Jan 31, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

and what if that guy who tweeted is wrong and all this hate is misdirected? just saying, its not over till they sign on the line.

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by dballisloose on Jan 31, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

this is not going as planned.

The Rose Bowl is too mainstream anyway.

by KeenanAllenFett on Jan 31, 2012 1:02 PM PST reply actions  

lol.

i’m out.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 31, 2012 1:03 PM PST reply actions  

So we went from 7 WRs coming in to having hardly any? Wow…

by Nkicker on Jan 31, 2012 1:04 PM PST reply actions  

I don't understand how we are losing all these WR's

I understand that we lost Coach K but I felt that Coach Chandler was an upgrade over K and actually played in the NFL at a high level as a WR. I thought a lot of these kids would stick once they got to know Chandler but that doesn’t seem to be the case at all.

I am a little surprised a lot of these WR’s recruits don’t seem to be very enthused about the Chandler hire. That kind of concerns me going forward in future recruiting classes and battles.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 1:08 PM PST reply actions  

2 weeks to connect and build a relationship? Tough job for anyone without a boat

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

And these kids probably have no idea who Wes Chandler is/was. You have to be over 40 to remember him playing.

by Monica's Dad on Jan 31, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

The night we hired Chandler, a lot of you talked me off a ledge, since my fear was exactly what has transpired…

He is a good coach, but with no current connection that these kids have to current NFL players, and given the tunnel vision that these kids have for general football history as it is, this was my fear for this year’s class we were trying to save.

I think Collins would have netted us Payton in the end.

That having been said, it’s time to start having Chandler work forward in finding the gems of the 2013 class. This one is so over. The good thing is that there will be always the 4* and 5* recruits to go after each year.

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by Auricursine on Jan 31, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t want us to hire a coach just to pull in one recruit. It’s quite an unfortunate situation for us

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by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess

If he’s a good coach anyway though, and all else being equal, landing a talented kid or two sounds like a bonus to me. I guess that means Tedford must be pretty confident that Chandler is truly a better coach.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m certainly hoping it’s the right hire. No use getting down on Chandler before we even see what he can do with the young men that ARE dedicated to Cal.

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by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely right. But it’s no surprise W.C.‘s hire wasn’t enough to lock down the kids who’d already bonded with Coach K. As you say, it’s just an unfortunate situation for us. And something we’ll enjoy avenging for the next few years.

by Monica's Dad on Jan 31, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

With Keenan, M. Harris, Treggs, and Harper on board, I’m hopeful Chandler can up their games. I can only wish for an LOI from Lawler and Dozier tomorrow!

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

This is EXACTLY it…. the absolute worst thing any organization can do is panic and hire someone just to win the PR war or to salvage immediate crisis without keeping an eye on the long term.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

All 3 guys who committed during the All American Bowl

Are gone. Unbelievable.

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by crazedfan on Jan 31, 2012 1:10 PM PST reply actions  

Hey!

But Dozier is still here! (At the very least for another hour.)

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

What does that mean?

Jordan Payton committed somewhere else?

Updates anyone?

by Monica's Dad on Jan 31, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

They're in to the 2nd segment and no word on Payton at all

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by crazedfan on Jan 31, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

at least we win the doom award for having recruits announce on national tv, yet having none of them come.

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

someone who's watching pls post the news

so i can get back to smashing my head against the wall. kthx.

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 1:11 PM PST reply actions  

I hope Avery lays him out when he tries to come across the middle.

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by golden oso on Jan 31, 2012 1:12 PM PST reply actions  

I keep checking this blog...

To see if the world has ended. Are we there yet?

by DelthaForce on Jan 31, 2012 1:24 PM PST reply actions  

we’v’e been there for weeks; where have you been??

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

So the Mayans were right? Tosh, Shaq, Payton, McCarthy = Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse?

by DelthaForce on Jan 31, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Armstead moreso than McCarthy.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Our recruiting class is looking a lot more like the middle of the Pac-12 than the top at this point. I’d probably rank them like this now:

1-USC
2-Oregon
3-Stanfurd
4-UCLA
5-Washington
6-Cal (loses Payton, Dozier, Walker)
7-Utah
8-Arizona State
9-Washington State (gets Dozier)
10-Colorado
11-Arizona
12-Oregon State

Sads.

by daveman on Jan 31, 2012 1:26 PM PST reply actions  

It almost looks like the Pac-12 regular season rankings! Wonder if there’s a correlation.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

No, there’s not.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

There kind of is.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

no, actually there is no correlation.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

really.

Top 3 in the standings:

Oregon 12-2
Stanfurd 11-2
USC 10-2

Top 3 in the recruiting rankings (using Daveman’s post):

1-USC
2-Oregon
3-Stanfurd

Bottom 4 in the standings:

Washington State (4-8)
Arizona (4-8)
Oregon State (3-9)
Colorado (3-10)

Bottom 4 in the recruiting rankings:

9-Washington State
10-Colorado
11-Arizona
12-Oregon State

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

That is a coincidence (as far as we are concerned) not a correlation… unless you think these recruits naturally gravitated to their respective schools based on last year’s finishes and not on any recent extenuating circumstances.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

When Tosh left, I’m pretty sure he pushed our recent record and lack of success over and over.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

correlation != causation

There is a correlation. The causation is debatable.

by Oski4Heisman on Jan 31, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate to be the pedantic dick who pulls out the dictionary… but where this is concerned…

mutual relation of two or more things, parts, etc.: Studies find a positive correlation between severity of illness and nutritional status of the patients.
Statistics . the degree to which two or more attributes or measurements on the same group of elements show a tendency to vary together.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I actually laid it out in my post. If I drew a chart with the a line for wins and a line for recruiting standings, the lines would in fact move together, which is the definition of correlation which you so helpfully provided. In fact we could measure it, and I guarantee you the correlation factor would be closer to 1 than it would be to zero.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, it IS a correlation in statistical terms, though you’re right, maybe it’s not a direct causation.

Actually though, the arrows go the other way. It’s good recruiting that translates into wins. There have been studies published that demonstrate that elite recruits do in fact correlate quite well with on-field success.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Really, Shaq, Walker, and Payton push Washington above us?

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

We’re probably going to have six-seven empty slots, so yes.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, losing Dozier, maybe gaining Lawler.

by daveman on Jan 31, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

And expecting Beaver to UW too.

by daveman on Jan 31, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

on ESPNU, it said
Cal, USC, Stanford, Oregon, UCLA, Colorado, ASU,…
Washington was surprisingly low at #9, even with Shaq.

by JustBear on Jan 31, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

There's not to their class much behind the headliners they've poached from you.

Before the Tosh hitjob, they had two 4* commits per rivals. Even with the poaching to date they’d really have to sweep the board to pull way up in the rankings. As it stood two weeks ago they were on par with OSU. Even with the additions is they’re not that far ahead of Oregon State for a quality class (though sweeping the board might also entail taking OSU’s second best commit, who they’ve been trying to flip after stealing his position coach, who was OSU’s ace recruiter).

Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.

by omb on Jan 31, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

keep us updated, thx.

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha, right on time

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by crazedfan on Jan 31, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Payton picked the Huskies.

Said it was tough to commit to a school where two coaches you were close to left.
Listed a final three of Washington, UCLA and Cal.

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by crazedfan on Jan 31, 2012 1:37 PM PST reply actions  

Said he never looked at Washington until the coaches left.

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by crazedfan on Jan 31, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

How can these kids and their families POSSIBLY not consider this sleazy???

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

ugh

but i’m totally not surprised

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s straight up BS right there. Tosh and Kiseau make a program apparently

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Even the announcers at ESPNU were saying that an athlete should pick a school based on the school and not the position coaches. They were discussing how one of these coaches would jump ship if they were offered more money at another school or in the NFL.

by CalLABear on Jan 31, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Sucks for us, but I feel bad for the kid. Everything got flipped around last minute for him and I don’t fault him for wanting to go elsewhere after these changes.

I just hate that Tosh and Sark are benefiting from their immoral actions.

by TheScientist019 on Jan 31, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAH

fuck you tosh. fuck recruiting. fuck everything.

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 1:37 PM PST reply actions  

keep on fucking

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

FUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKK

This is To$hmageddon!

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by secret ASian man on Jan 31, 2012 1:39 PM PST reply actions  

C’mon guys, we knew this.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 31, 2012 1:40 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

yup, Payton = gone shouldn’t be that big of news…

anyway, enjoy the rain, Payton. See ya 11-2

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

This nerd on ESPNU just butchered Lupoi and Kiseau's names.

Not that they’re easy names to pronounce, but Lupoi leaving was the biggest recruiting news in the country over the last month.

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by crazedfan on Jan 31, 2012 1:41 PM PST reply actions  

Lupoi’s face deserves to be butchered, too.

/angrybear

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I want Zack Kline

to lightup the UW secondary like a fucking xmas tree, and Avery Sebastian to destroy all their WRs.

by CalBeer on Jan 31, 2012 1:42 PM PST reply actions  

Kline just got his bike stolen

HE HATES BERKELEY!

I am THE DOOMBRINGER. We Are Cal.

by ManBearCal on Jan 31, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHA, awesome, MBC
There’s still time for Payton to commit every other P12 school before signing an LOI. He’s a quarter of the way there. Impressive.

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

JP's twitter pic

still has him in a cal hat. tease!

by PistolPreet on Jan 31, 2012 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

Holding on to Treggs and Powe is key IMHO

I worry that if Dozier flips things could spiral, even though most of us saw the Shaq/Payton thing happening for over a week.

People here in SoCal say Payton is no loss – but that only holds if we keep most of the other WRs.

by Art Vandelet on Jan 31, 2012 1:45 PM PST reply actions  

Guess we're not going to have the luxury of redshirting a couple of WRs

Agreed, this makes Treggs and Powe that much more important and they’re going to have a huge impact this fall.

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by crazedfan on Jan 31, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

As a UW guy, what is wrong with these kids? How can they buy follow Tosh and Kiesau?

It really makes no sense to me. If those two leaving mattered so much, I would not follow them to UW. Jesus Christ, Dozier better not go to Wazzu. On another note, Payton is not anything special. He is a possession receiver that won’t see playing time for the next two years because he has Kasen Williams in front of him.

by TKM399 on Jan 31, 2012 1:46 PM PST reply actions  

I dunno, they’re 18 year old kids who don’t know any better, and our current coaches apparently aren’t very good salesman.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm at the point where I don't even want them

Good riddance to them all. If they waiver that easily, I don’t want them on our team.

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by crazedfan on Jan 31, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s exactly how I felt about Shaq pretty much this whole time. First he drops USC from consideration because of his twitter followers, and then he flips. Guys like Kline WANT to be in Berkeley. They WANT to be Golden Bears. They WANT the experience. Seems like some of these guys are looking ahead of the college years already. Their reasons for committing elsewhere sound more like justifications to me, but If they don’t want to be here, then it’s probably for the best.

by SturdyGoldenBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn you UW guy for making sense...

Given very recent history, would anyone with common sense really be willing to bet a lot of money that either are going to be in one place for the next 4 years? When you follow hot assistants around, you’re likely to be abandoned at some point…

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

also, possibly high transfer risk associated w/ these guys? especially if Tosh or Kiseau or Wilcox leave?

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

This.

Wilcox will be a head coach next year. Tosh will be his DC.

by CalBeer on Jan 31, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

CalBeer didn’t say that he’d be the head coach of UW…

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

It isn't like UW sucks. It's a great school which is quite comparable to Cal in many aspects.

I don’t neccesarily understand the relationship between the players and the coaches, but it isn’t like they are choosing Wyoming over Cal or something ridiculous like that.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

They both use glass and concrete in some of their buildings

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

so they have windows…guess that better than evans…

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

One has boats and the other has a concrete canoe

#doomgang

by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 31, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't forget

they are both universities, that’s like kind of a big deal.

by CalBeer on Jan 31, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

both are in the Pacific Time Zone

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

meaning they’re kinda by the pacific

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

They both have a lot of people who attend them.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

They both have the word University in their nae

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

and the word of.

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

They both have successful trolls.

Oh wait…

#doomgang

by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 31, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Twist is the only successful troll.

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

No, not at all, I think it’s in response to the comment earlier:

Payton picked the Huskies.
Said it was tough to commit to a school where two coaches you were close to left.
Listed a final three of Washington, UCLA and Cal.

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by crazedfan on Jan 31, 2012 1:37 PM PST reply actions
Said he never looked at Washington until the coaches left.

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by crazedfan on Jan 31, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions

It’s a bit ridiculous because they seem to just be following 2 coaches around… what happens if either leaves?

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Then you look like the 18 year old kid that you are and you have to live with the consequences of your silly decision.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

So you’re likening they’re decision to contracting an STD at a frat party?? I… like it!

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

As a student, there is no comparison.

Cal: Better academics, better campus, more attractive females, nicer facilities (our athlete gym isn’t close), better nightlife, better weather.

The only reason why I did not take my transfer acceptance was because of the difficulty of registering, which is a non-issue for athletes considering their priority registration.

by TKM399 on Jan 31, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

You may personally perfer Cal's nightlife, gym or campus etc.

But they are all comparable to what UW offers in the same category. Like I said, it isn’t like they are going to the middle of nowhere for school.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Get the fuck out.

Have you ever been to Cal’s campus? Are you high? You can go grind on jailbait at Fusion or drink beers at Finn’s you retard. The UDistrict is a garbage neighborhood and we’re not close to Downtown at all.

by TKM399 on Jan 31, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Surprisingly, this is making me laugh

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha, alright. I'm sorry you hate your alma mater so much.

Cal and UW are both great schools, that’s all I’m saying. UW has a very nice campus. The U District isn’t the absolute greatest, but if you hate everything about it then you aren’t looking hard enough.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I went to a UW game with Cal Band a few years back

And I liked the campus (what we saw of it) a helluva lot more than some other Pac campuses. AND the fans (at the time) were very respectful of us. We even partied with the UW band, starting a nice tradition of mutual enjoyment of alcoholic beverages and the company of complete strangers in dimly lit rooms.

by SturdyGoldenBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Did they steal your instrument?

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

We in the UW band love you guys.

The tradition of hosting each other for parties started before I was there, but I certianly enjoyed some good ones in my time.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

If it means the same thing as when I was at SC, “god-damn independent,” or not in a fraternity.

I got tired of waiting because I found out there's only a fine line between biding one's time and wasting one's time.

by DC Trojan on Jan 31, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

hmm..I’ve never heard of that

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

that was one of the central dividing lines in undergrad culture at SC at the time.

I got tired of waiting because I found out there's only a fine line between biding one's time and wasting one's time.

by DC Trojan on Jan 31, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Hard to imagine that

Never considered joining anything, and yet I walked into any fraternity party in eugene I wanted, and even lived at a few for a week so when I was between addresses.

scrappy

by Honka Playboy on Jan 31, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Different cultures.

There is a pretty stark difference between those who live in Frats and those who don’t at UW. Apparently at USC as well.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I hear it’s not as pronounced an issue as it used to be.

I got tired of waiting because I found out there's only a fine line between biding one's time and wasting one's time.

by DC Trojan on Jan 31, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

damn

I thought that was a 30s term. The only time I ever ran across it was in a biography of George Wallace I read.

by sacman701 on Jan 31, 2012 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

There are positive and negative stories from every road trip, as you can imagine

but we found that our reception was mostly dependent on the quality of the opponent. For instance, the UW trip I referred to was in 2007, after our 5-0 mercuric start took a turn for the worse, and we finished 6-6. At that point UW was 3-7 and the frigid rain didn’t make the loss any easier. What did ease the pain was the warm praise we received from UW fans as we exited the stadium and made our way back to the hotel. Fans of losing teams know how to be gracious winners. Also, we celebrated our collective hatred for USC and their silly style of marching and boring halftime shows.

To contrast, at Oregon State in 2006 we were put on the corner of the field. We were heckled the entire game, fans stole some personal belongings of band members, beer bottles were tossed at us as we exited through the parking lot, and we witnessed a grown man teaching his small child the proper way to flip off the Cal Band. Classy bunch. Perhaps the difference was that we beat them 41-13 that year.

Moral of the story is once the game is over, try not to be a douche, especially if you win. I’ve always liked and respected UW fans, and I really hope it stays that way.

by SturdyGoldenBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting, we've also had terrible experiences at OSU.

My freshman year in addition to having all sorts of crap thrown at us someone stole a drummer’s shako which led to our grad assistant running after the guy, tackling him, and the cops arresting him. So in the end the abuse was worth it.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

We stopped going to the Arizona schools

partly because of funding cuts and also because the ASU trip that I skipped (thank god) turned out to be just awful. Our band director said it was one of the worst games and experiences he’s had. And this from a guy who makes friends with USC tailgaters!

by SturdyGoldenBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

was this the one year they were good? Yeah, that game sucked… it was a night game, I think it was Halloween… the students were lit and the general fans were awful.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds about right.

That seems to be the trend. Right when teams start going on an upswing, the fans get big heads and bigger mouths. I’m all for pride and a little bit of friendly trash talk, but any time you got drunk guys about ready to punch a girl you’re probably in bad company. I think the problem was that they stuck the band right next the edge of the student section.

by SturdyGoldenBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

We were in the upper deck in the endzone and had some of the most obnoxious fans around us… but, to be fair, they were obnoxious about everything, including their own players… one minute booing the QB the next cheering him. It was pathetic.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I never went to ASU.

Arizona was decent. Their band treated us really well, their fans were of a different sort than I’ve ever seen before. We saw a few fights in the stadium.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve had good experiences at OSU… and without a doubt, some of the biggest douche bags I ever encountered were at UW BUT that was probably due more to the fact they stuck us in the endzone.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

You cut me deep. I was not in the band.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, my bad.

Wait, were you in the non-bowl endzone? That is the wrong place to sit as an opposing fan, there are a lot of douche bags there.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

no I was in the bowl endzone. I was the micman waaaaaay back in the day.

These total douche bags kept getting on me and ever so cleverly calling my Howdy Doody (go ahead Boomtho, say something, I know you want to…)… finally near the end of the game I went right up into the stands (I was FED up) and they shut up like the biggest fucking pusses… It helps being 6’4 and about 250 ;-)

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

i don’t understand this reference. (also, i think this says more than a snide comment would) :)

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Good choice.

Those fans are as annoying to most of us as they are to you.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I just loved how they were all tough in their little group when I was 25 yards away but how they all shut the fuck up when i was right next to them…

signed,

doesn’t hold a grudge at all

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

We sat in one of the endzones (the one that looks out towards the Sound) and I guess there were a few Cal fans around, but it was cold and rainy so not surprising that attendance was down.

by SturdyGoldenBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

On nasty days or games against bad teams those seats are always empty.

The stadium rennovation will bring them much closer to the field so hopefully they’ll fill up more.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

your stadium renovation looks awesome.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes it does.

Isn’t Pac-12 TV money the greatest? I think it is great that UW and Cal are both upgrading their stadiums so much, even if the increased ticket prices will hurt a bit.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

to be fair, a big part of our stadium upgrade is “make sure it doesn’t collapse in an earthquake”

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Dont forget the modern plumbing, that is what I am most excited about.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

indoor plumbing is a modern marvel.

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

You guys apparently haven't been to Husky Stadium.

The same things apply here. I think we were spending two million a year just keeping the place standing.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

i have not been to husky stadium.

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven’t been to Husky stadium either. Tell me, how are your port-a-potties?

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by golden oso on Jan 31, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Did Memorial really not have plumbing?

Our bathrooms were pretty sketchy, but they did have running water.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

This… we had WAAAAAAY more porta-potties than not…. it was classsssy.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

This. cannot continue. Not when they club seals.

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm just saying, Berkeley has a lot more to offer than UW. Huskies need to stop pumping our school up so much, it's embarrassing.

We’re like Seahawk fans, we talk about how great Tavaris Jackson is and how we’re on the cusp of being a Super Bowl team. Cal’s track record of putting WRs in the NFL. I don’t want a guy who would follow coaches (who clearly are not here for the long haul) to a school because the likely hood of him transferring is high.

by TKM399 on Jan 31, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You’re too good to be true…are you in disguise?

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

No, come from a family of Cal grads. Didn't get in as a freshman, got in as a transfer

but would have lost a year from the transitions to quarters→semesters. Still want to see Cal do well, especially with Tedford on the hot seat.

by TKM399 on Jan 31, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Bless your soul.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Heart, dude. It’s “bless your heart” if they’re alive, “bless their soul” if they’re dead.

I got tired of waiting because I found out there's only a fine line between biding one's time and wasting one's time.

by DC Trojan on Jan 31, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve never heard this distinction before in my life.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Neither had I, until I started hanging out with serious Catholics at my old job.

I got tired of waiting because I found out there's only a fine line between biding one's time and wasting one's time.

by DC Trojan on Jan 31, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh. Well, then it’s okay, because I’m not Catholic. We all have souls while we’re living that can be blessed, as far as I’m concerned!

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

whatevs.

I got tired of waiting because I found out there's only a fine line between biding one's time and wasting one's time.

by DC Trojan on Jan 31, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Atma, baby!

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I grew up in a place where people used “bless yourheart” as a regular expression, but I’ve never heard “bless your soul” in every day use.

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by sec119 on Jan 31, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

and bless your heart is the southern equivalent of “with all due respect” meaning it gives you total license to rip someone… “i’ve never met a bigger imbecile, bless his heart”

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Others:

“I’m not racist, but … "

“I don’t mean this in a bad way, but … "

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by sec119 on Jan 31, 2012 11:02 PM PST up reply actions  

The Bobby Bowden variant was "they's good kids"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug1EDJ1KZ44

(I thought it was funny.)

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by AERose on Jan 31, 2012 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

eh?

I heard that “bless his heart” is Southern for “that guy’s an idiot”.

by sacman701 on Jan 31, 2012 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Are you Karl Dorrel in a mustache?

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I think you need to give UW another chance.

It might not be as great as you think Cal is, but there is nothing embarrassing about it and I think it is pretty ridiculous that you think it is so inferior to Cal.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

You seem to be having trouble recruiting TKM399

I know of a douchebag that is available to help. He can offer a romantic boat ride on the sound

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

He's busy today.

Since it’s a no contact period he and Sark decided to get a head start on finding baby seals.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Where is this that I can grind on jailbait again?

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn't there an express bus service downtown?

Failing that, taxis?

I got tired of waiting because I found out there's only a fine line between biding one's time and wasting one's time.

by DC Trojan on Jan 31, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmm. I got from Green Lake to that downtown transfer point last summer in a pretty reasonable amount of time and I thought we stopped right near the campus… but maybe I’m confused.

I got tired of waiting because I found out there's only a fine line between biding one's time and wasting one's time.

by DC Trojan on Jan 31, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

We're probably thinking about the same bus route.

When I’m heading downtown I normally plan on it taking about 15 minutes or so. If you get on an express which goes on the highway it can take 5, or you can get stuck in traffic and have it take 30.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

it was the express

that explains it. I liked being able to take a functioning bus line downtown, catch a Sounders game, and head back with minimal fuss, but I think that’s a function of where my brother and his wife live, as opposed to a universal experience.

I got tired of waiting because I found out there's only a fine line between biding one's time and wasting one's time.

by DC Trojan on Jan 31, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

In 2015 the light rail will go to UW.

Then it’ll only take 5 minutes to get downtown no matter what traffic is like.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d say Washington is close to Wyoming than it is to Cal.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I respect UW's academics

I have friends that went there.

Payton made a choice: Kiesau had only been at Cal one year anyway. Not that big of a deal (or rather nothing to be too upset about, although it does sting losing a commit at a time like this for the program).

It’s Shaq, Tosh, and Lupoi’s recruiting for UW while still employed by Cal that is not cool, and should be a recruiting violation if true.

by Lynch's Golf Cart on Jan 31, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

this

I’m disgusted with those coaches for their complete lack of professional ethics. I’m disappointed in the players only because they’re rewarding that kind of conduct.

by sacman701 on Jan 31, 2012 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

My sentiments exactly.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

This recruiting class has turned into a clusterfuck of negative momentum

it is like we are Charlie Brown and the rain clouds just keep following us around.

I have never seen anything like this. Sure this has happened to schools who have fired their HC or their HC bolts for another school but for this to happen because two assistant coaches left is just fucking ridiculous at this point.

The rational side of me knows not to blame Tedford but how does a coach in his 10th+ season at a school lose a class like this? You would think Tedford and his entire staff were fired the way we have been hemorrhaging recruits lately.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 1:55 PM PST reply actions  

Only healthy thing to do is...just get over it

Accept and celebrate the fine young men who have pledged to our beloved University.

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I will get over it, hopefully we win 10 games this season and we have a great recruiting class next season.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Losing Tosh is a double-edged sword, because not only does he stop recruiting for Cal and confuse everyone, but he immediately can lay out the inside dirt on the program to everyone at UW and trash everything about the school. Hard for some of these guys not to be swayed by the guy who’s your closest contact to Cal football.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

How long is this going to be an issue for Tedford and Cal? Obviously if Cal wins 9-10 games next season it will not be an issue.

However, is Tosh going to go into homes again and talk shit about Cal and Tedford and about Tedford losing his job and all the other dirty laundry? Truth is we will have to face off against Tosh for the next couple of years so will Tosh and this continue to be an issue?

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes. It’s already begun for 2013 with the top NorCal preps. It’s going to be a problem.

Disappointed in Tedford that things fell apart to the point that Tosh is going at us like this.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

wait, what? how is any of this Tedford’s fault?

by the federer express on Jan 31, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously… what is wrong with some of you that you’re disappointed in Tedford for how this has gone down.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Tedford and Tosh didn’t get along. Tedford should’ve tried harder to make it work and stood up for him. But I can imagine the strain of their relationship made Tosh’s decision easier to leave.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

oh come on. Tedford and Tosh had a working deal that Tosh would stay, and then he pulls his UW crap. give the guy a break.

by the federer express on Jan 31, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. But we shouldn’t be losing the number of recruits we’re about to lose if Tedford can sell Cal right. That’s a reflection on the current staff.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

That is what pisses me off the most. What the hell is this current staff doing? How could they let one person have this much sway in recruiting? And why aren’t they trying to stop him?

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

but then you have to look at it from the other end….if you don’t send your best recruiter to snatch up a blue chip recruit, then you have people criticizing you for that choice too.

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Why is one person though the best recruiter? Why isn’t the entire coaching staff good at recruiting? This is what I don’t understand. Did Cal seriously just have one person who was good at recruiting?

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

You really don’t understand this? Do you think in any organization everyone is your best salesman? Do you think you have people who are good at certain things?

This is where I am going to need to step away because what annoying me more than losing the recruits is the ridiculous manner in which some of the fans are reacting.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

what?

Tedford got a bunch of excellent players to committee with Tosh. It is just that some of the bigger recruits are on D and Tosh’s duty.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 31, 2012 2:21 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

There are finite and legal limits on recruiting resources. It’s not possible for every coach to recruit every player. Tosh was assigned to recruit the people who have flipped.

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by sec119 on Jan 31, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Tosh was assigned to recruit the people who have flipped.

exactly

by the federer express on Jan 31, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

The biggest issue is that Tedford failed to understand Tosh and his motivations and trusted him with way more than he should have. That’s something a good head coach needs to recognize.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re not even making sense… how you’re saying Tedford trusted him too much when before you were saying that Tedford should have stood up for him more.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

It’s either one or the other. Placate Tosh or cut him loose before he can do serious damage.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking as a small business owner and boss who has gone through a variant of this, (younger employee tried to extort more money from me, caused all sorts of morale issues) it’s just not that simple.

If you haven’t ever managed someone, I think it’s unfair to point the holier than thou fingers in this case. Did Tedford screw up? Maybe. He could also have been deceived by Tosh’s act and not known there was bitterness behind the mask.

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by Kodiak on Jan 31, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Ten years Tedford has known Tosh, coached with him, recruited with him. How could he not have known?

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

My dad got screwed over by an employee that he had known and trusted for 23 years.

People change. Money, ambition, and the disease of more can seriously eff with someone’s head.

I had someone that I thought was a the kindly old grandmother-type who did everything right, was classy, polite, old-school manners…and she quit the frigging day after our Xmas party. With a note in my in-box. Knew her for 4 years. Never saw it coming.

Not saying that Tedford is above reproach here. Whenever you have a staff screw-up, you need to look at yourself and your systems for a “what the hell went wrong” review. But, it’s a lot more complicated than “well, why didn’t you just do X, Y, or Z?”

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by Kodiak on Jan 31, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate to slam on you, but this is a really unsophisticated view of not only how life plays out, but how this situation played out.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, this.

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by sec119 on Jan 31, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Tosh is hawt

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Why’d the artist leave out the poopdeck?

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by CopyBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s a lot of ones.

by slaphancock on Jan 31, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

“stood up for him”???? how?

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Tosh is a fucking juvenile with a raging ego. That’s not Tedford’s fault.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s also not Tedford’s fault that he didn’t recognize Tosh is a juvenille with a raging ego?

Coach has been around Tosh for TEN YEARS from player to coach. You’d think he’d pick up on this.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

On the flip side, what if Tedford knew that Tosh was prone to being immature, but was trying to mentor him?

Gave him his first break and a chance in the coaching business.
Promoted him beyond where someone his age and his lack of technical knowledge really should be.
Tried to overlook the bad in favor of the good. And still got screwed over.

Personnel management ain’t easy.

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by Kodiak on Jan 31, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

The series of events you propose sounds reasonable. But it just doesn’t sound like a good idea. You’ve got to recognize the wolves in college football.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

you can't work without trust

otherwise nothing gets done

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by CalBear949 on Jan 31, 2012 2:37 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

it’s a lot easier apparently for people who have never managed anything or anyone in their life.

This is where your people skills are FAR greater than mine… I’m feeling a message from the mods coming on… ;-)

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha.

Emailed you before you even posted this.

I so wish it were so easy to hire the right people, treat them the right way, keep them within your budget, and avoid all the bad seeds.

It would have saved me a ton of grief if there were the magic training manual or seminar out there.

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by Kodiak on Jan 31, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL! Just got it ;-)

I needed that.

I still laugh at that one about me being papa bear or something because it reminds me of when Colbert refers to O’Reilly…

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I suspect the ego has manifested itself largely in the past couple of years with Tosh’s Recruiter of the Year award.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

This

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by CalBear949 on Jan 31, 2012 2:38 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

So this will be an issue until Tosh leaves the Pac12? The great news just keeps coming and coming.

At this point it doesn’t even seem like Tedford is able to win these battles against Tosh. I am getting more and more upset about this whole situation and it seems like it will continue to haunt us for years to come.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

From someone in the relationship business…

Guys, it’s really hard to unseat very close long-standing relationships even if you have the better product (pricing, features, brand, whatever). No big surprise that Tosh would win this battle when Teddy was given only two weeks to build rapport.

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by since1997 on Jan 31, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I think peeoples concerns are why is it so lop sided such that Tosh has an amazing relationship and Tedford doesn’t seem to have much at all.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Right. It’s the same reason sales people have better relationships with customers than CEOs do.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I get that analogy but Tedford also goes on recruiting trips and meets these kids just as much as Tosh does, doesn’t he? Once again I don’t know how this whole recruiting thing completely works but doesn’t Tedford often meet recruits on his own trips or at the very least goes with coaches to meet these kids? Or does Tedford just kind of come in to meet a kid after an assistant or coordinator have met them several times?

Also how big of a role does Clancy play in recruiting kids? Does he just recruit defensive kids? Why doesn’t Clancy seem to have a very close relationship with some of the defensive kids? That is one name I have never really heard mentioned much in regards to recruiting.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I get that analogy but Tedford also goes on recruiting trips and meets these kids just as much as Tosh does, doesn’t he?

I don’t know all the ins and outs but what I do know for sure is that Tedford, like every other head coach, doesn’t spend nearly as much time with the recruits. It’s just not possible. It’s exactly like the above analogy. You bring in the head coach / ceo to close the deal.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

yep

Lupoi has already shown that he has no ethics or moral compass, I can’t imagine what incentive he would see to start behaving ethically.

by sacman701 on Jan 31, 2012 7:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Not to mention, the guy has already established relationships with many of the hs seniors and juniors, which we will be shooting for next year. He’ll no doubt play against us as well. Remember, he started recruiting Shaq as a sophomore. Cal fans don’t deserve this.

by PappysBoy on Jan 31, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

SDBear… will you fucking get over it. Man, YOU (and you know I like you) are a the vortex of the clusterfuck of which you speak.

You can blame a lot on Tedford, but getting absolutely royally reamed by the asshole Tosh is not one thing.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

No offense taken in your comments, I am just frustrated that things fell apart the way they have in such a short amount of time.

I am really not mad at Tedford or advocating he get fired for this. I am just trying to understand how things could get this bad in just a few weeks. I know Tosh and his treachery deserves a lot of this blame.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I know Tosh and his treachery deserves a lot of this the blame.

There is but one person to blame here. The guy who went and recruited AGAINST CAL WHILE HE WAS BEING PAID BY CAL.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

True story

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 31, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

"blame"

Tedford is not in the wrong morally or ethically, but it doesn’t follow that he is completely “blameless” in the sense of making errors of judgment. In particular it seems he was not a great judge of character in Lupoi’s case.

by sacman701 on Jan 31, 2012 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Umm, no, losing 3 recruits is not a reason to fire your most successful coach of the last 50 years. Step back from the ledge, SDBear!

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by sec119 on Jan 31, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I never said to fire him but as the HC he holds most of the responsibility for this, whether he deserves it or not.

I am just shocked that one ASSISTANT COACH leaving could just destroy a class like this. Not even a coordinator, an assistant.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

wait

2 coaches left. One happens to have connections with some high level recruits.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 31, 2012 2:27 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

True Coach K did leave, I forgot about him. That would help explain the WR’s leaving but I believe Payton cited Tosh so it seems like Tosh leaving had a bigger impact as he had a better relationship with him.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

probably both but these are 18 year olds we’re talking about.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 31, 2012 2:29 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

it would be interesting to see how many decommits we've seen in prior years

I’m sure this is way more, but there are always some. Like Bigelow and Jackson last year. We just had a very long way to fall with Shaw.

by Art Vandelet on Jan 31, 2012 1:57 PM PST reply actions  

LOL

shit’s gonna get batshit insane in here if he doesn’t.

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by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

He'd at least better not pick the Huskies

Then I’d really flip out.

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by crazedfan on Jan 31, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

He won't

It’s Cal vs. the Dread Pirate Leach of Wazzu

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by secret ASian man on Jan 31, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

It would be nice but with the way things are going I am not to hopeful at all.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

At this point, I don’t expect many will want to stay on a sinking ship.

by daveman on Jan 31, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

At this point Tedford is like the Italian cruise captain and this ship is sinking fast.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

WTF

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Teddy is most definitely not bailing on the ship. He is sinking with it!

by chowder on Jan 31, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

but Tedford hasn’t abandoned ship. Seriously, if the kids wanted to follow Tosh and Kiseau, then there’s little Tedford can do about it. The most he can do is to learn from it and to not allow one recruiter to have his pick of blue chips like Tosh did. The position coach in charge of the recruits area should be the lead and that’s it. No more cross over just because one recruiter is dominant

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

This

How coaches can recruit when two coaches leave 2 weeks before LOI day?

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by CalBear949 on Jan 31, 2012 2:18 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Was Tosh the only recruiter on this team?

What the hell is wrong with these other coaches? Do they not recruit? Or they do recruit and only find players like Maynard?

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

Tedford recruited Kline.

by JustBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s fine, if Cal could win with one player.

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Gould is an amazing recruiter. Perhaps better than Tosh.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Then why are all these recruits leaving? Doesn’t look like anyone on this team was recruiting except Tosh.

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

who left?

Dline guys and receivers. Guess what coaches left?

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by CalBear949 on Jan 31, 2012 2:22 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

well, Shaq was a DB. But other than him, I think everyone stayed.

by JustBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

exactly

Shaw is a unique case and had connections with UW beyond Tosh.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 31, 2012 2:24 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

And guys who apparently want to study sports medicine.

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Please stop.

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by sec119 on Jan 31, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m just trying to grasp the big picture here. These guys decommitting doesn’t make our current staff look good in my opinion.

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Cal definitely doesn’t look good right now, but I think its a complicated situation. I dont think you can paint the entire staff here with a broad brush.

Its unclear who was recruiting whom.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

pretty sure Tosh was the lead recruiter on most of our highest-profile recruits.

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

And that’s what I just don’t understand. Why would you give the job of recruiting the blue chip prospects to one person? Coaches leave staffs all the time for better jobs, that isn’t new, but Cal didn’t have a backup plan or another recruiter in these kids ears?

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

because he’s the best at it?

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

But they don’t have another person on staff who’s just as good at recruiting?

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course they do but they recruit other positions and guys.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 31, 2012 2:33 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

dude, this is the whole reason it was so painful for tosh to leave. he was the best recruiter we have (maybe Gould notwithstanding).

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I know that and realize that, I just think it’s sad that one person on the entire staff had this much sway over recruits.

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

The definition of best means there’s no one else as good as you.

by TheScientist019 on Jan 31, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

that's just silly

There are limited resources and time.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 31, 2012 2:31 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I’m not saying they have to pay for another coach just to recruit, but they should have had another coach on staff who should have been talking with these kids.

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

1) there is a limited no. of coaches and visits.

2) Tosh had recruited some of these kids for 2 to 3 years. How does someone else do that?

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by CalBear949 on Jan 31, 2012 2:35 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I don’t think that’s likely. Plus, Texas has not one, but TWO hotshot young coordinators in Manny Diaz and Bryan Harson… I guess 3 if you count Applewhite. So they wouldn’t need Wilcox and Tosh.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

HA!

Kinda like how Armstead listed “academics” as a reason for choosing Oregon.

by SturdyGoldenBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Guess they’re lucky I went to Cal.

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

curve wrecker!

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by golden oso on Jan 31, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

It makes sense...

UO is like a UC… only easier.

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by secret ASian man on Jan 31, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

to be fair

he specifically cited the sports marketing program, which is basically a Nike intern factory.

by matthewcc on Jan 31, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The Oregon Ducks ARE the marketing program there.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

actually, to be honest, that’d be a pretty sweet gig.

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

The Warsaw School of Sports Marketing!

I know one of the sons of Mr. Warsaw (the grandfather invented the bobblehead as a sports promotional tool and the father basically invented the sports licensing business) – the kid, although I’m sure came from a very wealthy family, was a super nice super cool kid with a good head on his shoulders.

by LeonPowe on Jan 31, 2012 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Kinda like how Shaq chose UW because they are #2 in graduation rate.
Makes no sense at all.

by JustBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Tosh apparently has facility with bullshit statistics.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s easy to graduate when none of the classes are hard, or when the rest of your classmates making up the curve are… ASU students.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

or when your classmates are strippers.

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by golden oso on Jan 31, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Offended

I worked at Student Med Center and with the Sports Medicine department.

Awesome docs and staff. Some of the best in the world. Where I met Deltha O’Neil

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by CalBear949 on Jan 31, 2012 2:16 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

THIS DESERVES TO BE GREEN PEOPLE.

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by AERose on Jan 31, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

this whole thing has made me sick

You only get one shot at a Cal degree. You can make the NFL from any college. Sad statement on the intellect of these kids/their parents if they can get swayed by a bullshitter like To$h…and pick a school solely for that reason. As for guys like Shaq, the degree doesn’t matter. If he kills it at UDub, he is gone after 3 years. If he doesn’t, doubt he finishes out his time there. I want kids in the program that love Cal, not kids that love some 30 year old dude who stays up all night on xbox courting 16 year olds. After getting a closer look at this process, I could give a shit about landing these kids, if the motivations behind it were so twisted from the start.

by callax on Jan 31, 2012 2:11 PM PST reply actions  

Super DOOM

saw this on my FB feed just now (no joke), posted by someone who knows nothing about football:

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by verytech on Jan 31, 2012 2:11 PM PST reply actions  

traitor.

crossing polar bear off of christmas card list

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by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Still hope for Stefon Diggs, Thomas Johnson, and Darius Hamilton.

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by bigboneded on Jan 31, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Stefon Diggs, Thomas Johnson, and Darius Hamilton

fixed

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 31, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sorry, I’m really big on Randall Carroll and Sam McGuffie. TRACK ATHLETES FTW

by TKM399 on Jan 31, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure Johnson ain’t happening. Schiano leaving Rutgers may help a small amount for Hamilton but he’s most likely headed to Florida.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Carroll was academically ineligible at UCLA. Why do we think he would make the grade at Cal? Also, why would he transfer in conference if he would have to wait an extra year?

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Flip? He’s not committed in the first place I don’t think.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s still on twitter. Just changed his screen name.

by daveman on Jan 31, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm pretty happy

good qb recruit, good ILB rewcruit, awesome pass rushers in the 3-4 last year, 3 big OL recruits, couple or WR recruits, awesome DL recruits LAST year, maybe a couple of DB recruits this year, 2 good RB recruits last year, I think Im happy this year. Hopefully next year will not be filled with de-commits.

by heinzketchup on Jan 31, 2012 2:19 PM PST reply actions  

it shouldn’t be. Tosh can’t leave Cal twice right?

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

It shouldn’t be… unless those rumors of Tedford bolting after the 2012 season actually come to fruition.

Feels bad, man.

by Swamphunter on Jan 31, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

crossing my fingers

if he does, hopefully he doesnt leave a week before NSD

by heinzketchup on Jan 31, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Jeff’s too classy to do that. If he would leave, it would be like right after the last game of the season, not two months later.

Feels bad, man.

by Swamphunter on Jan 31, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

where would he bolt to? Unless he wins 9-10 games in 2012, his stock’s pretty low… unless he’s willing to go back to being an OC

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I dunno. That story cropped up after the loss to Texas.

Feels bad, man.

by Swamphunter on Jan 31, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

So it was probably hate-fueled bullshit.

Feels bad, man.

by Swamphunter on Jan 31, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

haha, it wasn’t that Gooooooooooobears guy on ESPN that calls Tedford “Tedfraud” right?

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t read comments on ESPN or Yahoo! anymore.
They’re just as bad or worse than YouTube comments.

Feels bad, man.

by Swamphunter on Jan 31, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, don’t read them too, Ted Miller’s called him out a few times though.

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Ted Miller makes fun of him.

by JustBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Good on Uncle Ted. He has a better mindset than most when it comes to our staff.

Feels bad, man.

by Swamphunter on Jan 31, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s AMY. The trolliest troll of all.

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by CopyBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I can tell you that Tedford would in high demand

I don’t think people appreciate how hard it is to win, let alone stay competitive, at Cal

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by CalBear949 on Jan 31, 2012 2:26 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

i dont know about 9-10 games in 2012. we need a damn qb. nate longshore was our last 10 win qb and everyones been a disappointment since then.

by heinzketchup on Jan 31, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

avery = awesome bear.

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

One of the best things to come out of this recruiting cycle is the leadership of Avery Sebastian. This kid has shown just how wise and mature he is, as well as how much he truly loves Cal.

This has been a breath of fresh air and I truly look forward to watching this kid grow up and play for Cal.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, Kline at QB.

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by sec119 on Jan 31, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Rec’d instantly.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

rec’d

I think it’s fine for us to vent a little, but Bears don’t tuck their tails between their legs. Dawgs do.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly, I’m pist about what Tosh and Kiesau (or however you spell his name) did, but you can’t do anything about it. It is what it is, we’ve got good coaches in place to replace them, and let’s focus on the positives of where the program is going. Still lots of potential I think.

by daj08bear on Jan 31, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Can’t really see the hats. Looks like a Wazzu hat for sure.

by daveman on Jan 31, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL my bad

i have no idea wtf i just watched… somebody was sitting at that table with that banner

by heckyeah on Jan 31, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

That was Zach Banner from Lakes High School (same school as Dozier)

by daveman on Jan 31, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

wait wtf did i just watch

by heckyeah on Jan 31, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Zach Banner — that was a recording of his announcement for USC

by daveman on Jan 31, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

DOZIER TO WAZZU!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

#doomgang

by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 31, 2012 2:29 PM PST reply actions  

Can anybody who isn’t our #1 most popular troll provide an update here for us working stiffs?

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

fin.

The Rose Bowl is too mainstream anyway.

by KeenanAllenFett on Jan 31, 2012 2:31 PM PST reply actions  

Can he just get it over with? I need to start paying attention in class!

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by AndyHogan14 on Jan 31, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

jesus

this screams wazzu. in front of home town fans? damn it

by btown89 on Jan 31, 2012 2:37 PM PST reply actions  

I am assuming it's

his HS

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by CalBear949 on Jan 31, 2012 2:37 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

maybe he enjoys trolling?

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

probably

but 15 minute of fame

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by CalBear949 on Jan 31, 2012 2:39 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Exactly

Nobody has a big ceremony to re-affirm your pre-existing commitment. So my hopes are not high here. AND YET I WATCH…

by bigdruid on Jan 31, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

And yet, I stare at my computer screen, waiting for the update.

by cal85 on Jan 31, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Get on with it, kid!!

by PappysBoy on Jan 31, 2012 2:39 PM PST reply actions  

Grew up in Washington

and applied to the UW as a “back up” choice….

The campus is beautiful, but it does rain a lot and the winters are long and dreary. I chose to attend college back east, but when it came time for grad school felt incredibly fortunate to be able to attend U.C. Berkeley.

Clearly the decisions made by these young men was predicated on football and not other aspects of the university. Clearly most of these players will not have a career in the NFL and so the quality of their education will matter.

Did they make the best choice for themselves? Who’s to say. Football is only a game, after all….

by CalAlum on Jan 31, 2012 2:43 PM PST reply actions  

Perfect scenario:

Dozier: In conclusion. Eff y’all. I’m heading to Berkeley. Peace

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 2:43 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Chris Harper tweets that we lost Dozier

So we lost JP and Dozier, where’s Kenny Lawler/Walker going

by Art Vandelet on Jan 31, 2012 2:43 PM PST reply actions  

Man, that’s rough

by TKM399 on Jan 31, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, a lot of inside jokes & stories

by heckyeah on Jan 31, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

TwistNHook must’ve written this speech. We’re doomed.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

he’s making the most of it. most kids only commit once twice three times so they may as well enjoy one of the biggest moments of their young lives

Jorge's casa no es su casa.

by dballisloose on Jan 31, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Payton only took 10sec. to announce

because it was on National TV, that’s all he had.

So, get to the point Cedric.

by JustBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:45 PM PST reply actions  

Whatever

This might be the last time he gets a chance to shine. Let him have his moment.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

HIS MOMENT TO COMMIT TO WAZZU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#doomgang

by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 31, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree — let the kid talk.

by daveman on Jan 31, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Did anyone think Cal was going to keep all these wide receivers?

Treggs, Payton, Dozier, Walker, Powe, and Lawler? There is no way these guys all would have played 3-4 years together.

by TKM399 on Jan 31, 2012 2:47 PM PST reply actions  

yeah

I was surprised to see all commits at WR

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by CalBear949 on Jan 31, 2012 2:48 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

if tosh & kiesau didn’t leave, we probably would have only lost dozier.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 31, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

funny now

:)

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by CalBear949 on Jan 31, 2012 2:50 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

We could have kept 5-6 and most of them would’ve gotten PT. We are going to be pretty thin at WR in the next year or two

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

He's still talking?

I already went into a store and talked to a client.

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 2:49 PM PST reply actions  

i went to chic fil a and ate, just got back.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 31, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I made some tea

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

WHAT????? REALLY!?!?!?!?

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by AndyHogan14 on Jan 31, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

what is this

good news?

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by CalBear949 on Jan 31, 2012 2:50 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I know..I’m not sure how to deal with this

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

He can talk all night if he wants to.

by daveman on Jan 31, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

We need to get EVERYONE… and i mean EVERYONE to tweet out welcoming him with the #calgang

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I normally do NOT tweet recruits, but I just might have to welcome Mr. Dozier!

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t either, but if this is how the game is played we need to play. POSITIVELY

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

CAL

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

#doomgang

by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 31, 2012 2:50 PM PST reply actions  

YOU KNOW IT!

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by Berkelium97 on Jan 31, 2012 2:50 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

YOU TELL THE STORY!!!

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by AndyHogan14 on Jan 31, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

THAT DOZIER IS GOING TO CAL.

wait…

by the federer express on Jan 31, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

THAT LAKEWOOD IS BEAR TERRITORY!

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by AndyHogan14 on Jan 31, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

YES, THIS.

Rec’d

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by AndyHogan14 on Jan 31, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

bravo

F him with a chainsaw at both ends.

by sacman701 on Jan 31, 2012 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

OMG WHAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTT1?!??!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank goodness

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 2:50 PM PST reply actions  

LOL

take that Leach. and Tosh.

by JustBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:50 PM PST reply actions  

Finally!!

Love this kid. I’m going to cry.

by PappysBoy on Jan 31, 2012 2:50 PM PST reply actions  

HOLY SHIT

i won’t believe till tomorrow. still time to flip.

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 2:50 PM PST reply actions  

LOL WOW GREAT NEWS!

It feels so good! It feels so good!

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:50 PM PST reply actions  

OMG your voice is so beautiful!!!

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad...

"To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is
research."

by Auricursine on Jan 31, 2012 2:51 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Lulz

The overjoyed disbelief is very entertaining

Inspiring and completing since1997 since2010!

by Fire Starkey on Jan 31, 2012 2:51 PM PST reply actions  

Oh yeah...

Fuck TOSH

Inspiring and completing since1997 since2010!

by Fire Starkey on Jan 31, 2012 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

keep on fucking!

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck….

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Good news? We're allowed to have that???

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by AndyHogan14 on Jan 31, 2012 2:51 PM PST reply actions  

Cedric Dozier

turning DOOOM into WWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

by GoldenBear8933 on Jan 31, 2012 2:51 PM PST reply actions  

he went offline so fast

by JustBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:51 PM PST reply actions  

I forgot what good recruiting news felt like

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by Berkelium97 on Jan 31, 2012 2:51 PM PST reply actions  

We need some good news.

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

hahahahaha this is so true

by btown89 on Jan 31, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I just LOL’D SOOOOO hard at that

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHA

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Dewey Defeats Truman

DEWEY DEFEATS MUTHA FUCKIN TRUMAN YO

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 31, 2012 2:52 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

no no no

We’re Truman this time!

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

The grey Cal hat was a bit screwy.

What if he was like, “SIKE, IT’S A UW HAT, I’M ON A BOAT!”

by TKM399 on Jan 31, 2012 2:52 PM PST reply actions  

I saw gray and thought it was Wazzu

guess i turned on “DOOOOOOOOOOOM” too early

by Jigglz on Jan 31, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

People like us, they really like us! Woooooooooooo!! :D

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by AndyHogan14 on Jan 31, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I loved BN when they were looking for a new football coach.

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

you know things are smelling like bear poop when they feel sorry for us

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

You guys are too kind.

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I like the CougCenter folks

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, I completely agree. That is why if Dozier had picked WSU I wouldn’t have felt that bad at all.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, OSU can go to hell.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Mike Riley

good dude. Although they did hurt Jahvid and Riley.

by CalBeer on Jan 31, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Being seated in QQ, I can’t stand their away band

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

being seated in qq, i don’t think i ever heard them.

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

really? they play something on EVERY. SINGLE. DOWN.

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

i guess i’m too busy paying attention to our band and our fans and the game for it to register.

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I only goto games to show off my new shoes and socialize.

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

sweet kicks man.

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Woah I thought for SURE this post was by Twist.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

/sarcasm, obviously. I don’t even talk to my friends because I live and die with every down.

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha yeah I know, but if it were by Twist it wouldn’t be sarcastic :)

"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded

by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

OSU, UW, fUcla, furd and the Arizona schools, screw them all.

"Fuck DOOOOOM. We prefer BOOOOOM!!
- alpha1906

by golden oso on Jan 31, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

At this point I honestly DESPISE every single other school in the Pac-12 with the exception of Colorado and Wazzu. And I don’t hate USC quite as much as everyone else does.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s because you and I are in the same boat with regards to USC.

"Fuck DOOOOOM. We prefer BOOOOOM!!
- alpha1906

by golden oso on Jan 31, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

What do you have against Utah?

I’ve always hated Washington the most, so it’s nice that everyone seems to be with me on that now.

Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts. - R. Feynman

by GBB4188 on Jan 31, 2012 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

They’re lower on the hate list, in fact I’d put them just above Wazzu, Colorado, and USC at the bottom of the list. Mostly it’s just lingering from their pantsing us in the 2009 Poinsettia Bowl. Utah’s not really my favorite state, either, though it’s better than Arizona at least.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Oregon more than OSU

by JustBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

FUCK YOU WAZZU

YOU SUCK J/K LULZ

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 31, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Ed Reed…at wideout?

by TKM399 on Jan 31, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

when he does catch the ball…he’s scoring touchdowns…

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Rivals has him as ATH

Maybe they’re only going on body type w/ the Reed comp.

by Lynch's Golf Cart on Jan 31, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Well he will come in as a WR and I hope he sticks at WR but he could also potentially slide to corner if WR doesn’t work out for him.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

incidentally, Ted Miller thinks Dozier is a RB

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 31, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe we don’t know where’s he’s going to play, and just he has a preference for wr…

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe that is exactly the case. Reality is Dozier could play WR, RB, or DB but the kid wants to play WR so that is what he is until otherwise.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe we can convince him to play DB :)

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

He thanked ALOT of people

My basic psychological analysis says this guys a good dude. Is thankful for people around him. Good to have him.

by heinzketchup on Jan 31, 2012 2:53 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

HAHA

That’s not what a lot of folks were saying when he was giving his speech

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

As opposed to the clowns we lost who need their egos stroked. He’s comin for the right reasons, I love it!

by daj08bear on Jan 31, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Unlike Shaq

who thanked no one in his TwitCommit!

scrappy

by Honka Playboy on Jan 31, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

not as poetic as I wanted but close enough:

Perfect scenario:

Dozier: In conclusion. Eff y’all. I’m heading to Berkeley. Peace

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 2:43 PM PST reply actions

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 2:53 PM PST reply actions  

what is his tweet handle

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

i fuckin love this comment fiat hahahah

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

dont’ think he has one. Just to be clear, this was MY perfect scenario for the announcement. not what he said.

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

are you making fun of me?

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

yes.

"#caltrollgang" - RB

by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

see, if i were you – and i’m just spit ballin’ here – if someone i knew was having dinner with a senior partner at my company who was heading a project i wanted to be on, i would be, oh I don’t know, less mocking and more not mocking… but that’s just me ;-)

So what exactly are you making fun of? That in my haste i said tweet instead of twitter?

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

lol, you cut me deep fiat :)

i just had an image of my dad… he’s an engineer but consumer-tech ignorant, saying “what is the deal with twitters and tweet handles”. and that’s why i thought it was funny.

ps i’ve somewhat given up on that case… i’m on this one till april, probably, and not much free time for extra stuff. but i am super glad that you are somewhat involved here – i would have reached out to you anyway!

"#caltrollgang" - RB

by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I know you think I am REALLY old… but sometimes my mistakes are my fingers typing without my brain…

so you’re saying you don’t want me to mention you? He and i had about a two hour call last week. Great guy. TOTAL Cal guy. Turns out we had already talked in Vegas at the UNLV game.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

it’d be great if you mention me! (but serious question – you don’t know my name, i think?). i’m not sure my manager / client commitments will allow me to be on that case, but I’D LOVE the opportunity to make that decision!

email me if it’s worth talking further… believe you have my email. thanks!

"#caltrollgang" - RB

by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I do have your email as you have mine. Send me a “real” email – scary, you’ll have to lose the cloak of anonymity, but your secret will be safe with me.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

The more and more this went on

The more and more I really wanted this kid to come. We can make fun of how long this took, but it just seemed like the kid had a lot of people he wanted to thank and had an understanding of how many different people had a part in this (he thanked his fullback in 7th grade I think?).

Very happy that he’s coming.

by c10misb on Jan 31, 2012 2:56 PM PST reply actions  

This is good news because we really need WRs in this class. i’m OK with Armstead and McCarthy walking, but we definitely needed 3-4 solid WR recruits this cycle. I wonder if this will affect Lawler’s decision b/c as of right now we should be getting:

Treggs
Powe
Dozier
Harper

I’m expecting Walker to walk. If we can get Lawler, then I’ll feel really great about the WR position going into the next few years.

by daveman on Jan 31, 2012 2:56 PM PST reply actions  

I agree that if we can get Lawler to replace Walker that would be great and might even be an upgrade.

A WR class of Treggs, Powe, Dozier, Harper and Lawler would be awesome!

I was okay with Armstead walking, I will admit I would have loved to have gotten McCarthy but we knew keeping McCarthy, even if Tosh had stayed would have been tough.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Lesson I'm going to take from this entire saga

Don’t pay attention to recruiting until the players sign the actual LOI. Saves us from heartbreak.

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 2:57 PM PST reply actions  

Agreed.

I got my hopes up only to have boat fall on them.

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by AndyHogan14 on Jan 31, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Hahaha

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

but what is being a cal fan without the heartbreak? We’re addicted to emotional upheaval.

by slaphancock on Jan 31, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather save my heartbreak for the annual USC loss.

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

oh, I like to think my heartbreak is unconditional and expansive. I can feel heartbreak now AND later. Why hold your heartbreak in?

Besides general mental health, of course.

by slaphancock on Jan 31, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh I’m already prepared my heartbreak for the annual Pac12 conference tournament loss to Washington.

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

SO TRUE, buddy

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

so youre saying...

dozier can still sign a LOI with WSU?!? NOOO

by heinzketchup on Jan 31, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

HURRY UP AND GET HIS SIGNATURE!

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah me too, this is my first and last year following this recruiting stuff. Wake me on Feb 1st.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Its usually not this insane.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Well it is making me go insane and turning me into a raging pessimist.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Arent you already a raging pessismist?

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Somedays I am a raging pessimist, somedays I am just a regular pessimist

on other occasions I have even been described as optimistic, clearly those people don’t know me well enough.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Is this the last Cal related announcement today? Hope so, the good news feels SOOOO good. Would be nice to last the rest of today until tomorrow

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 2:58 PM PST reply actions  

Zach will have someone to throw to!

That was my only concern. Of the two I just watched, I’m glad we got the one we did. Welcome to Berkeley!

by james415 on Jan 31, 2012 3:00 PM PST reply actions  

And help him look for his bike!

"Fuck DOOOOOM. We prefer BOOOOOM!!
- alpha1906

by golden oso on Jan 31, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Or even better...

show him how to use a U-lock. It’s all about preparation and anticipation.

by james415 on Jan 31, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Mike Silver reaction to decommits:

MikeSilver Michael Silver
We don’t want to be a gimmicky, SC-wannabe nautical operation like the 1 up north. We’re the best school in the world. No sleaze, no tricks
7 minutes ago
"

MikeSilver Michael Silver
These kids have major decisions to make that will impact their lives forever. We want Bears For Life; not a good fit for everyone…
9 minutes ago

Love it.

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 3:01 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

That is kind of funny coming from a guy who seems to support Tosh and took Tosh’s side in this whole saga.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

He switched, I think when the whole story came out. Someone asked him later the same thing and he joked he was declaring Jihad on UW

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh okay, I suppose that is a bit better. I just remember when it was all going down he seemed to be pro Tosh and taking Tosh’s side.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:20 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s why—without knowing the whole/true story—it’s pointless to go batshit crazy on the program or coaches. (NOT directed at you, SDBear, more in general)

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

why are you going batshit on SDBear?

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

DOOOD CALM DOWN. JUST STOP IT.

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

True, just to be clear I have never thought Tedford should be fired for losing Tosh or ever took Tosh’s side.

I am simply pointing out that it was odd that Silver would take Tosh’s side so early on when the story had just broke and it was clearly obvious he had only heard one side (Tosh’s side) of the story. Seeing how Silver is a journalist you would think he would have waited until he had most of the facts in front of him and heard another side of the story before jumping to a conclusion.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, I remember reading that from Silver too. I also remember seeing some nasty tweets to Sandy. It just doesn’t serve much purpose other than MAYBE relieve some stress from those fans

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

to be fair… Mike is a total “labor” guy… ie he almost always sides with labor / underlings over management on these things.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

True, that is clear with the way he almost always sides with NFL players. I agree that people should side with the players but sometimes he kind of jumps the gun.

Side story, I am a SD Charger fan and he tends to side with every SD player over AJ Smith. For example, he seems to have an issue that AJ Smith hasnt signed Vincent Jackson to a long term contract. However, what Silver fails to see or realize is that Jackson has had maturity and off the field issues, such as two DUIs in one year. Yet, he never mentions this as a possible reason why AJ and Chargers management has taken a wait and see approach to signing Jackson to a long term deal.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve sort of adopted the Chargers as my team. I hope they don’t leave San Diego.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

no need for the deadbolts to be in los angeles.

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

The Faiders can always pack of the moving vans and drive down th 5 south to LA.

Although, if any team is going to be in LA it really should be the Rams.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Look at this fucking love connection!

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

i have a feeling it’s gonna be the raiders and rams all over again.

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair, I also have issues with AJ and do believe he does tend to let his ego get the best of him and he can hold grudges against players.

Yes, I obviously hope the Chargers stay as well but I do not think the city and the tax payers of SD should have to pay the whole bill for a new stadium. I do support some tax payer dollars going to a new stadium because a new stadium would help the local economy both short and long term. However, that doesn’t mean we should pay for a new stadium, especially if it is going to be privately owned by the Spanos family.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

And this is why the Seattle Sonics are now in OKC.

I completely agree with you, but if that’s what San Diego decides than the team will probably move. It is ridiculous and unfair that cities are expected to pay for billionaire’s stadiums, but there doesn’t seem to be much we can do about it as long as other cities want to take our teams.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

And Seattle is doing just fine without the Sonics.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

a little but not that much (and I’m not speaking for you). I think losing the Mariners would be far worse.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree.

Good thing Safeco and Century Link will last another 50 years at least.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I am a big fan of Safeco. Think it’s a great place.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I love Safeco, IMO it is much nicer than Petco Park.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I think Petco is great… I loved they didn’t use brick like everyone else. I also like the exposed metal look of safeco. I thik they are both great. I actually like them both better than ATT

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I loved the exposed metal of Safeco and the fact that the roof is on train tracks. I just love the modern industrial look of Safeco.

Petco is still nice, I just don’t understand why they faced it looking in towards downtown and not the other way so that you had a view of the bay, Coronado and the Pacific.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

i wish there was a way to turn dodger stadium around to have the view of downtown instead of the hills…but guess when the stadium was built, there was no downtown to look at, so the hills were better…

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

MLB Stadiums...

…all face to the northeast with the exception of Comiskey which faces southeast (to keep it at the same intersection as old Comiskey).

This is because it offers the lowest chances of the catcher having to look into the sun for pitches.

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by Auricursine on Jan 31, 2012 5:19 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

God I miss Dodger Stadium :(

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 5:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss going to Dodger games, the stadium not so much.

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by golden oso on Jan 31, 2012 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss both. I <3 Dodger Stadium.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah…not many places better on a summer night.

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't have much to compare it too, but I also think it is great.

Only other stadium I’ve been to is new Yankee Stadium which was very cool, but more from a “holy crap I’m in Yankee Stadium” point of view.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

You should give AT&T a try!

Football games there are just the worst, but there’s nothing quite like a Giants game during the summer.

by SturdyGoldenBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

If I'm ever in SF in the summer I'll be sure to go.

I actually know quite a few Giants fans up here, maybe one of them will go with me.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 31, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

and boo the giants.

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

THIS

Jorge Gutierrez is "The guy with the hair plays with the flair"

by HeyAlumniGo on Jan 31, 2012 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

pick a clear day, it’s an amazing place to watch a game.

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

boo giants

but it is a nice place to watch a game.

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

good luck with that in the summer…

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

(not sure if serious?)

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

san francisco is known for it’s clear, fog-free summers.

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by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

it still summer in august/september…

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

which is why i said “pick a clear day” :)

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Micro-climates!

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 4:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually was a fan of Candlestick on a warm summer day. I liked that the only thing there to do was watch baseball.

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by HeyAlumniGo on Jan 31, 2012 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

especially for a football game!

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by golden oso on Jan 31, 2012 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Never understood all the love for Safeco, personally.

by hunger on Jan 31, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

At least a sports arena is a bit more useful, a 80k stadium doesn’t have much use outside of football stadium.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m on the record as being anti-tax dollars for football stadiums.. I also do NOT think it should be downtown… that is just dead space when games aren’t going on.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

As far as downtown is concerned, I would normally agree but one of the possible locations is just dead space right now. Plus what little public transportation SD does have it all goes downtown so the public tranportation, such as the trolly already exist downtown and would help get people to the games on sunday. I was not a fan of the proposals to move build the stadium in Escondido or Oceanside at all.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Easier to get to the holiday bowl from LA…

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m done with SD bowl games.

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by golden oso on Jan 31, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

seriously…i want pasadena!

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

where are they proposing?

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

SD is getting married??

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

shut your whore face

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I was somewhat involved in the Toyota Center/Houston construction (in that, I knew people who were attending the meetings) – the money was raised via bonds + rental car + hotel + convention center taxes. TAX THE OUT OF TOWNERS TO PAY FOR OUR STADIUM.

Houstonians were very much ok with this approach.

by LeonPowe on Jan 31, 2012 10:57 PM PST up reply actions  

everyone is ok with that approach… i think we had an old thread about rental car fees earlier (we’ve had an old thread about everything I think…)

by fiatlux on Feb 1, 2012 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

This.

It’s too bad the final two choices weren’t Cal and Wazzu

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Can we all agree to find way sot screw over UW whenever we get the possibility? Perhaps we can get Sark/Tosh can take the boat to the coast of Italy . . .

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by AndyHogan14 on Jan 31, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

How about we start by both of us beating them next season.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s a start…

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I fully expected him to stay with his original commitment.

Everything I have seen on Dozier made it look less and less like he would turn on his original commitment

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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jan 31, 2012 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Kick UDubbs ass in the Apple Cup for us.

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by 49er16 on Jan 31, 2012 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Or we can do it ourselves on Nov 2

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

They’re not mutually exclusive options!

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 4:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope we do

It would be easier if Holt was still the DC though…

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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jan 31, 2012 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha, Leach vs. Holt would be the mismatch of the century.

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by AERose on Jan 31, 2012 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

We CAN have nice things!

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by crazedfan on Jan 31, 2012 3:07 PM PST reply actions  

Dozier > Payton

Was way more excited about Dozier than Payton anyways. Payton’s leaving was a foregone conclusion. Dozier’s leaving would have signaled something far more troubling. Interesting no one in the state of Washington will actually touch U of W.

by PappysBoy on Jan 31, 2012 3:15 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

ESPN Ted Miller...

Whys is ESPN PAC 12 blog saying Cedric Dozier is a RB commit?

by heinzketchup on Jan 31, 2012 3:20 PM PST reply actions  

he played it in HS, and ESPN lists him as an athlete, so he just went with that

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 31, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

The bigger winner in all this:

CGB’s traffic!

Thanks, drama!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 3:20 PM PST reply actions  

Hey, Copernicus just called… he said you’re not the center of the universe

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Copernicus died several hundred years ago. Are you sure it was him?

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

he’s on with me right now….

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Watch out, he’s probably a vampire!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

how do you know I’m not?

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Because you just got done saying you pump sunshine. If you were a vampire, you’d be through.

The only reason I bleed is to get the red out of me.

by CopyBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

man you guys are on top of things!

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

RT @WazzuFBBlog: IIRC the last time #WSU was runner up to #Cal for a top recruit, that would have been for the services of Marshawn Lynch.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 3:21 PM PST reply actions  

Hope for the parallel

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by bigboneded on Jan 31, 2012 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

hope we’re getting a beast mode receiver…

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, I did not realize Lynch almost went to WSU.

by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Marshawn at WSU?

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by TwistNHook on Jan 31, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Marshawn at Buffalo?

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

loves chain restaurants.

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

lurves SUVs

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

lurves the injury cart!

Jorge Gutierrez is "The guy with the hair plays with the flair"

by HeyAlumniGo on Jan 31, 2012 6:52 PM PST up reply actions  

haha

marshawn was so oakland there was no way he was going to pullman if he had a choice.

by heinzketchup on Jan 31, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Town Business.

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by CopyBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

GO BEARS!

Congrats on making a great decision, Cedric!

Sorry, you made the wrong choice, Shaq. Enjoy getting burned repeatedly on 11/2!

by Oski4Heisman on Jan 31, 2012 3:23 PM PST reply actions  

Very happy to have Cedric.

And I can’t wait for November 2nd. I hope that when U Dumb runs out, every single Cal fan turns their back to the field in silence. I know I will be.

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by CopyBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:24 PM PST reply actions  

I’ll probably boo unless we can coordinate something

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Can CGB claim the reward?!?!

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by crazedfan on Jan 31, 2012 3:24 PM PST reply actions  

Are you saying that Sark is giving Tosh a $10k reward for killing sea lions?

This is bigger than we initially thought…

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by Berkelium97 on Jan 31, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Each sea lion is worth as much as a 5* recruit?

by puresilence on Jan 31, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Apparently, they must be ritually sacrificed to Sark’s chosen deity before any 5* guy will consider UW.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

seal tartare is tasty.

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

sealviche.

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

$10k for each blow you deliver to a sea lion’s head with a blunt object

#doomgang

by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 31, 2012 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Does he get any bonuses for hitting them with his new boat?

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by CopyBear on Jan 31, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

KEEP SHOPPING

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by crazedfan on Jan 31, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Can you please every saturday between September and November? Oh and assuming it goes well, on Jan 1, 2013 too?

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I need some sugar, shuga

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 31, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Can you please every saturday between September and November? Oh and assuming it goes well, on Jan 1, 2013 too?

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 3:37 PM PST reply actions  

reply fail!!! yay!!!

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Lifelong Cal fan here.....

I too am bummed out by the defections, but I have a serious question. Even if we got all of these recruits, what makes you think Tedford can coach them up??? Recent history suggests that he can’t. The thing about Tedford is that he’s stubborn; he has a system that he wants to use, but he needs to do a better job of designing it around the strengths of his players. It took like 3/4s of last season before he figured out what to do with Maynard for crying out loud.

by axelfoley on Jan 31, 2012 3:45 PM PST reply actions  

yeah, we only pump sunshine here.

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

oh yeah, this thread is ONLY shunshine pumping… right you are.

by fiatlux on Jan 31, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

"Even if we got all of these recruits, what makes you think Tedford can coach them up???"

The level of success we have had over the past 10 years despite our mediocre recruiting, as well as the level of play of former Bears in the NFL.

by Oski4Heisman on Jan 31, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

level of success?

I don’t think we have been watching the same games the last number of years…and I attend them all. Maybe I have a selective memory. Although I must admit, I embrace mediocrity with the best of them and yell and scream and throw things at my TV and really really really want to crush the opposition like bugs…which never happens (at least not to Pac foes). I think its fair to question the lack of consistent results. This whole recruiting fiasco has put me in a foul mood. Shit man, it feels like Saturday evenings in November.

by bobsyerunkle on Jan 31, 2012 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Like this past one where we won 3 out of 4 games? Look, we all want to take the next step as a program, and we’re not satisfied with the past few years, but there are plenty of positive signs that we are on the right path, and we have to be patient (but still insistent) that we improve.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

i missed the last 4 games...

as I had salted my eyes at the end of the UCLA debacle. After a good stint at the eye wash station, I was back just in time for Texas! sigh. you’re right 7-6 is OK. However, it appears that we are slowly slipping in the Pac12 pecking order and this recruiting class is a symptom of an overarching malaise. (I also hate that my UW colleagues at work actually feel sorry for me today)

by bobsyerunkle on Jan 31, 2012 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

not even in the top 25 according to Rivals

I actually have no idea where these rankings are generated. ESPN doesn’t have us in the top 25 as far as I can tell. MALAISE FOR ALL! ha. I can’t believe I wrote MALAISE.

by bobsyerunkle on Jan 31, 2012 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

ESPN has Cal at 16...today...after all the hurly burly

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by bigboneded on Jan 31, 2012 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

How you surviving in Anch? I lived there back in the early 80s and have some family there and see it’s been pretty cold recently.

by dcblue on Jan 31, 2012 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Better lately, cause it's been snowing

so single digits. Was -10 to -20 for a bit.

First Winter here, originally from Davis. I actually love it up here.

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by bigboneded on Jan 31, 2012 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I grew up in Oakland and ended up staying nine years even though the plan was four months. It was minus 22 my second weekend there so it only got better. Stay warm!

by dcblue on Jan 31, 2012 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

No doubt. I figured out quick that the keys are a good waterproof coat, good waterproof boots, and good waterproof gloves.

Never had below 15 in Tahoe, now I am handling -15. I can even go out in a sweatshirt when it’s single-digits. #alaskahardcore

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by bigboneded on Jan 31, 2012 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, your fault for salting your eyes then, can’t help you there. Maybe we are slipping in the pecking order, maybe we aren’t. 7-6 is an improvement on 5-7, which happened after our bad recruiting through the tree-sitter fiasco. If we don’t continue to get better now that those impediments are removed and we have gorgeous new facilities, then yeah, let’s make some changes.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

…but I think we need another couple of years of wait-and-see to know for sure where we are.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Stubborn is the last word I’d use to describe Tedford. He is constantly tinkering with his approach (e.g., who/how plays are called, when practices are held, day of the week team travels to road games), to the point where I think the lack of consistency over the years has become a fault.

I will forever be a Tedford apologist, and there is nobody I’d rather have coaching the Bears. But I do sometimes wish he’d be less of a detail-oriented, tinkering perfectionist and more of a stubborn, this-is-how-I-do-things sort of leader.

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Jan 31, 2012 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Brandon Fanaika

since we’re pumping sunshine, what’s the story with Fanaika and what are our chances of picking him up?

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by dballisloose on Jan 31, 2012 3:58 PM PST reply actions  

it hasn’t been beaten out of you?

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Dozier

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

shaq (see what i did there??)

tomorrow should be fun.

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

No, you’re talking about some other school’s player, while I’m talking about a Cal Golden Bear, so I don’t see what you did there.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

you really are no fun, man.

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

yay go bears!!

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

No you’re speaking my language!!! :D

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

bah

*Now

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

i'm a complicated man.

i can DOOOOOOM and sunshine pump at the same time.

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by boomtho on Jan 31, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m impervious to your DOOOOOM!

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Here’s how fickle these commitments can be:

The U.S. Army All-American gave an oral commitment to the Bears in the fall, but he reevaluated his options after two coaches, including receivers coach Eric Kiesau, left for position at the University of Washington.

Dozier quickly scheduled an official visit to WSU. He enjoyed the trip and new coach Mike Leach’s pass-happy offense was enticing and nearly pulled him to Pullman.

"I made up in my mind earlier in the week that I was committing to WSU," Dozier said. "But I kept praying and it came to me today at lunch."

[…]

Between bites of pasta and chicken during lunch Tuesday, Cedric Dozier dialed up California football coach Jeff Tedford.

"We were just talking and something just hit me, telling me ‘Hey, right now is your time, this is what I want you to do,’" Dozier recounted. "It was Cal. I said ‘Hey coach, I think it’s time that I recommit.’"

Later in the day, the fleet receiver reaffirmed his oral commitment to the Golden Bears when he told a crowd full of supporters that he picked Cal over Washington State.

by minesweeper on Jan 31, 2012 4:21 PM PST reply actions  

Where can we get that lunch and how fast can we send it to every recruit?!

But seriously love the kid already.

by stevvy89 on Jan 31, 2012 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Daaamn, good talk, Coach!

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

That Tedford. What a Terrible Closer.

Sitting around and doing nothing while the class slips away.

by Lynch's Golf Cart on Jan 31, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

OK...2 cents

I just scanned down through the PAC 12 recruiting classes to date this year…and frankly, we still look pretty damn good in comparison, even to a USC, and Washington really sucks..I know it’s been said, but kids who are so loosely tied to a commitment to a University that they jump based on the whims of their favorite recruiting coach…meh,…don’t think we really want them or that they have the stuff to take us where we want to go…maybe just rationalization on my part, but it makes some of the sunshine return to my veins, so I’ll take it…Go Bears…we are gonna be effing great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by TKE Prytanis 79 on Jan 31, 2012 5:35 PM PST reply actions  

Honestly, if Washington didn’t pull this shady shit, their class would have been a disaster.

The top 3 state of Washington recruits are all still not going to Udub. Without stealing Shaq and Payton, they’d have one of the worst recruiting classes in the Pac 12.

by LouisMurphy'sLaw on Jan 31, 2012 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

their class is still bad, only buoyed by shaq and payton.

The Rose Bowl is too mainstream anyway.

by KeenanAllenFett on Jan 31, 2012 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Ayoob AND Mansion in ONE class?!?!?!?!?!

"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"

by CruzinBears on Jan 31, 2012 6:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Party Yachts for all!

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by golden oso on Jan 31, 2012 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

and this class is wrapping up but

SAHPC IS FOREVER
GO BEARS

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 31, 2012 6:03 PM PST up reply actions  

until we need a new one in like a hundred years…

by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

DDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOO………..ZZZZZZIIEEERRRRRRR.

The Rose Bowl is too mainstream anyway.

by KeenanAllenFett on Jan 31, 2012 5:36 PM PST reply actions  

UHHHH

Jed Barnett Transferred? WTF?

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 31, 2012 6:58 PM PST reply actions  

Are you effing kidding me?!

Maybe because this came out of the blue, but this is more upsetting than Shaq or Payton.

Based on that tweet, I’m scared Cal did something to wrong him/didn’t fulfill some agreement…

by TheScientist019 on Jan 31, 2012 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Since he's a walkon

The logical inference is that he expected (or was hoping for) a scholarship but did not get one.

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by Ohio Bear on Jan 31, 2012 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s a shame. You’d think with all the decommits, we’d have the scholarships available… And I thought I heard good reports about Barnett’s punting.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Recruiting Leininger probably did it.

by daveman on Jan 31, 2012 9:46 PM PST up reply actions  

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