Cal Football Recruiting Wire: Updates and National Signing Day Preview
by ManBearCal on Jan 31, 2012 3:00 AM PST
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PrintHello, fellow recruitniks. As many of you hopefully know, National Signing Day is tomorrow, February 1. I don't know about you all, but I'm ready for this to be over. Recruiting is a ride, but it's not always fun. At this point, I feel like I scarfed down six funnel cakes, chased them with two pitchers of warm beer, and then hopped on the spinning teacup ride. Let me off! Stop the spinning! I'M NOT HAVING FUN ANY MORE!!!
Let's start off with some developments since our last recruiting wire post:
Arik Armstead, DE Pleasant Grove (Elk Grove, CA). Committed to Oregon on Sunday, Cal eliminated. OUCH. This is especially galling because Armstead all but had his bags packed for Cal when Tosh's departure was announced. That led to Arik pushing back his announcement and re-opening his recruitment. Silver lining? He didn't go to UW. Still very disappointing. I had hoped that the hoops opportunity at Cal, the proximity to home, and the hire of Todd Howard would keep Armstead in the fold. Alas, it didn't.
DJ Foster, RB Saguaro (Scottsdale, AZ). Committed to ASU on Friday, Cal eliminated. DOUBLE OUCH. Honestly, we had very little business being a major factor in Foster's recruitment. He grew up an ASU fan. It was his dream to go there. We got in on him late. It was really a combination of some fantastic recruiting by Coach Gould and repeated ASU bumbling (their season going in the crapper, Erickson getting canned, hiring a nomad like Todd Graham) that even made this close. In the end, the hometown hero opted for his hometown school. Can't fault Foster for any of that. Good luck to him.
Zach Hoffpauir, S Centennial (Peoria, AZ). De-committed from Cal last Friday, and will announce his college decision on Wednesday between Cal, Stanford, and ASU. TRIPLE OUCH! So I guess its good that we aren't out of it yet, but it's an interesting time to decommit. The allure from both Stanford and ASU is pretty obvious: Stanford has been winning, has a good academic rep, and has a strong baseball program (Hoff wants to play baseball too). ASU is the hometown school and also has a strong baseball program. If we don't land Hoff, I think it will be Stanford. FURK.
MORE BAD NEWS?! EVIL DOMINOES!
Kenny Walker, WR (Cal) Kennedy (Richmond, CA). Will be flipping his commitment from Cal to Washington very soon. Too bad. Walker is a local kid (from Richmond), and has been in the fold since August. He's also our fastest WR commit and a versatile, talented guy. Good luck to him. I don't have a link for this, because it hasn't happened as of me writing this part. But it will, trust me.
Cedric Dozier, WR (Cal) Lakes (Lakewood, WA). Will choose between Cal (the school he's...uh...COMMITTED to) and Washington State (Pirate Raid!) at 2:30pm today at Lakes High School. Interweb scuttlebutt is suggesting that Cedric will be flipping to the Coogs. I don't know about all that. We'll see soon enough. Like Walker, Dozier was really forced to reassess things when his position coach headed for UW. I really hope he sticks with us though. Dozier is a real weapon and would certainly have a shot at early PT for us next season. Damn that Mike Leach offense!
Jordan Payton, WR (Cal) Oaks Christian (Westlake, CA). Is announcing his decision on ESPNU today at 1:30PST. Funny, I thought he already made his decision three weeks ago. What ever happened to good old fashioned decommitments!? Give Hoff credit for that at least. Payton is probably going to Washington. Feel free to skip this one.
Darius Hamilton, DE Don Bosco Prep (Ramsey, NJ). Is announcing his decision tonight at 5pm PST. Guessing he'll be heading to Florida. We had a shot until Tosh left. But hey, maybe we'll be a hat on the table! Moving on...
Guess what? There's some good news too:
Jeffrey Coprich Jr, RB West Ranch (Stevenson Ranch, CA). Commited to Cal over Hawaii after his official visit last weekend. The link has most of the good scoop on Coprich, but let me just say that this guys is a great athlete. Strong, versatile, and FAST. He could be a special player at a few different spots. Under the radar for sure, but a very nice new toy nonetheless. Welcome to Cal, Jeffrey!
Justin Davidson, TE Russell (Ashland, KY). Officially visited Cal last weekend and may have received an offer. This looks like a Wes Chandler special, as this guy is as under the radar as they come. I like this picture, and he's really big at 6'5 255. Plusses. Here's a couple highlight vids too. The lack of offers is a question mark. Still, we could use some TE depth. And its possible Justin could hulk out and move to the OL too.
Brandon Beaver, CB Dominguez (Compton, CA). Officially visited Cal last weekend and was offered yesterday. Will be announcing his decision tomorrow on FoxSportsWest between 3pm and 5pm, choosing between Cal, UCLA, Washington and Utah. I tend to think Beaver goes to UW, but it sounds like we made a very strong impression on his visit. It would be nice to secure a cornerback commit or two in this class, and Beaver is a rangy, physical guy with nice height. Yes please.
Raymond Ford, CB Junipero Serra (Gardena, CA). Officially visited Cal last weekend, and will make his decision on Wednesday between Cal, Washington State, and Utah. Ford is smaller, but very fast and showed really well at The Opening in Oregon last summer. Our own Jason Gibson was a former teammate of Ford's at Serra. He would be a really good get in my opinion. I like our chances.
Kenny Lawler, WR Upland (Upland, CA). Officially visited Cal last weekend and will decide Wednesday between Cal, Washington State and Oregon State. Like Brandon Beaver, Lawler received his official Cal offer yesterday. he'll be announcing his college decision on FoxSportsWest as well. Be on the lookout for the announcement between 3pm and 5pm tomorrow. Lawler would certainly soften the blow of losing some WR commits, and then some. He's got nice size and very good hands. A consesus 4 star WR recruit, Lawler is nobody's consolation prize. Both the Coogs and Beavers have been more aggressive in their pursuit of Lawler, but I think we have a good chance.
Ukeme (Markuss) Eligwe, LB (Florida State) Stone Mountain (Stone Mountain, GA). Will hold off on making a final decision between Cal and FSU until next Monday, February 6. Whoa. Eligwe has been committed to FSU since April of last year, but he had a really good visit to Cal last weekend ($), and his mom actually flew out to join him and take in the Bay Area. Eligwe seemed most taken with the university itself, which is quite a breath of fresh air what with all these recruits picking coaches over schools.
Christo Kourtzidis, TE (Florida State) Lutheran (Orange, CA). Does Kourt flip to Cal or stay firm with FSU? I've heard literally NOTHING since his FSU visit, which leads me to belive he's not flipping. Dunno though. Maybe Eligwe's fun at Cal helps out here.
Bryce Treggs, WR (Cal) St. John Bosco (Bellflower, CA). I was reluctant to even include Bryce on here, but he's (allegedly) spent enough time at UCLA in the last two weeks that this could get interesting. Obviously the official visit he had to Cal was good, but he's made a few too many trips to Westwood for me to be too comfortable. Plus, he's going to be doing an announcement on the same televised show as Lawler and Beaver. Why announce? Good pub for Cal? Or is something wicked awaiting? I don't know. Just covering my bases.
Shaq Thompson, S (Washington) Grant (Sacramento, CA). Committed to Washington last night. Will announce his decision at 8am Wednesday morning. It'll be between Cal, UW, Oregon and UCLA.The fact that he's cut communication with other Cal commits and took an unofficial visit to Washington this last weekend doesn't leave me feeling very confident.
Know what I feel? Sadness. Shaq was supposed to come to Cal. He was supposed to be one of the saviors of the program. His family loves Cal. Then Tosh left. Everything's been in a tailspin since. Really too bad. He'll be great wherever he goes, but seeing him elsewhere is going to be weird. Sigh. #SadSunbear
There you have it. More surprises? Maybe.
We're almost there! Go Bears!
/chugs bleach
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Hopefully Cal has learned an important lesson from this debacle
Never put most of your recruiting efforts into the hands of one man. It’s burned us the last two weeks, and the fire isn’t out yet.
Just reminds me of how much I respect a guy like Ron Gould. Great recruiter, great coach, loyal to the end.
by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 3:14 AM PST reply actions
This
but at some point it is unavoidable. Tosh seems like he was recruiting for defense. Also, don’t forget that Cal lost two coaches
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by CalBear949 on Jan 31, 2012 6:50 AM PST via Android app up reply actions
Seems like it was two men: Kiesau for the WR’s and Tosh for every other defensive position. Then we have recruits pulling LeBron’s and trying to get several talented players at one school – which seems to be a growing trend.
Alternatively, and this is quite challenging, but you have your stud recruiter as your head coach.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Another poster replied to that with a good counterpoint: if we recruited these top guys with another coach—one deemed to be a worse recruiter—and they went elsewhere, Tedford & co. would be flamed for not sending in his top guy to get the top talent.
The only way to not get screwed in this situation is to have ethical coaches who don’t recruit for the other team while on the way out from your program.
by TheScientist019 on Jan 31, 2012 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
The problem is relationships aren’t transferable. If it were easy to build bonds like Tosh had with recruits, everyone would do it. What made him an elite recruiter was how uniquely skilled he was at getting recruits to trust him and want to be around him. It’s not like Tosh can say, “Here’s Coach Tedford, love him like you love me.” That’s not the way human beings work.
And if you hold your best recruiter(s) back from forming those relationships with your best recruits, then aren’t you reducing your chances of landing those recruits? And how much more would Tosh have resented Tedford for doing that?
I know there is at least one “expert” out there blaming Tedford for putting too many eggs in one basket, but I don’t think it’s nearly that simple.
by Reef on Jan 31, 2012 9:20 AM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Very good post.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
If that’s the case, Tedford should’ve held onto Tosh for dear life and made every effort to keep him, because it’s clear the fate of this and future recruiting classes would’ve depended greatly on him.
It’s clear Tosh didn’t feel Tedford was treating him well enough, or he would never have left the way he did.
by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
so much doom. needs more sunshine.
by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 3:18 AM PST via Android app reply actions
This is how Sunshine Bear feels right now
by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 4:28 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Even with the coaching implosion, having the worst recruiting class of the 4 California schools is completely unacceptable. Hopefully this class will be stronger because of the adversity that it has faced . . . I just hope we kick the living shit out of UW next year. To be honest, I might even want to beat UW more than Stanfurd next year (blasphemy, I know).
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I'm not quite sure why it'd be unacceptable
Furd is coming off their second straight BCS appearance. USC has always recruited better than us. UCLA is surprising, but they also generally get a lot of the LA recruits, and with SC limited to 15 schollies, they got a lot of guys the Trojans would normally get.
It was amazing that we were even in the running for the best class. But Tosh did a heck of a job demolishing his handiwork.
by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 6:06 AM PST up reply actions
UCLA having a better class definitely stings the most, everything they have is subpar to what they have (team, facilities, academics, etc). SC has its sanctions and Stanfurd is, well, Stanfurd and I expect to beat them every year no matter what.
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by AndyHogan14 on Jan 31, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Clarity
Let’s be thankful for the guys that have hung with us and not wavered.There’s some great talent and critical pieces still with us. That’s huge.
We could have been a top 5 class, yes. But we could still be top 25. All is not lost, it just feels that way.
I am THE DOOMBRINGER. We Are Cal.
Despite the 5 star defections, our class is still very strong. I can easily see a number of these guys coming in and starting for years to come.
As much as we wanted all these Dline recruits, I don’t think we have a strong need there. And I’m hopeful that if our 6 WR commits shrinks a bit, that we’ll still be in good shape. What we really seem to need are some CB’s and TE’s.
But now I hate UDub more.
by I hate $C on Jan 31, 2012 7:52 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
On a side note, Cal has an awesome record of getting safeties to the NFL (4 I believe: DeCoud, Conte, Giordano and Asomugha while at Cal). Interesting, given that they’ve probably all had different position coaches over the years. Have we been spoiled by safety play and not realized it?
But now I hate UDub more.
Negative Recruiting
I guess Oregon didn’t tell Arik or his parents that they aren’t a top 100 University (US News Academic rankings #101). Talk about negative recruiting.
I have to believe
That any “negative” recruiting Guss Armstaead attributed to Cal either came from Tosh (pre-departure), or in JT attempting to fill them in on the circumstances surrounding Tosh and Kiesau’s flip to UW.
Negative recruiting has never been attributed to Cal before. Odd that it would be now.
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by ManBearCal on Jan 31, 2012 7:28 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, that bit was strange, as was the bit about Chip Kelly’s “honesty”. Who cares how honest he is, when in all likelihood he’s not gonna be there in a couple years?
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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 7:33 AM PST up reply actions
he's announcing at 2:30 tomorrow i think
between SC, Stanford, UCLA and Cal.
he’s not gonna pick us.
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joy
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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 7:41 AM PST up reply actions
Well we’re not expecting him either.
I got tired of waiting because I found out there's only a fine line between biding one's time and wasting one's time.
If we don’t land Shittu, we will have no D-linemen in this class as far as I can tell. It’s not a huge need for the team just yet, but it might be pretty soon, especially if we don’t have Tosh recruiting DLine talent anymore. We should be set with these guys for maybe a couple years:
Kendrick Payne – Sr.
Aaron Tipoti – Sr.
Deandre Coleman – Jr.
Keni Kaufusi – Jr.
Austin Clark – Jr.
Gabe King – RS So.
Brennan Scarlett – So.
Viliami Moala – So.
Mustafa Jalil – So.
Todd Barr – RS Fr.
Puka Lopa – RS Fr.
I think we’ll see Payne, Tipoti and Coleman starting with a healthy dose of Moala, Scarlett, Jalil and King this year. I’m hoping we also see what Barr and Lopa can do, although they are going to need to bulk up a bit to play D-Line in the Pac-12.
by daveman on Jan 31, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Your list just got me very excited about our D-line for years to come, thank you for the reminder!
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by CruzinBears on Jan 31, 2012 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
way too early but let me project depth chart
because it gets me excited.
DE Jalil Barr
DT Tipoti Payne/Moala)
DE Coleman King
exactly! mmmmmm
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by CruzinBears on Jan 31, 2012 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Updated CGB Recruiting Document?
Can we get a link to the “numbers” and where Cal is? Looks like we’re going to be doing some scrambling over the next few days.
I think you mean years
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by EchoOfSilence on Jan 31, 2012 8:24 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
link is here. remember this could change significantly in the next two days (or hours).
i’ll try to keep it updated.
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2012
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by CalBear949 on Jan 31, 2012 8:18 AM PST via Android app reply actions
The circle of doom is almost complete
Let Payton, Walker, and Dozier fly free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#doomgang
by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 31, 2012 8:29 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
Local kids
This article was posted on Golden Nuggets last week:
Telling quote from the article:
For only the third time in the last 30 years, six of the region’s top 20 prospects are headed to Berkeley.
How have we been this bad recruiting local kids? Given our relative success the last 10 years, how have we not hung on to local kids better?
Despite all of the recent recruiting drama, this seems to be a very big story. If Cal can at least cultivate a ‘home field advantage’ for recruiting akin to Socal and U$C, that is definitely progress.
And I imagine that this doesn’t include the Sacramento and the Central Valley environs. Cal needs to hold its own in its backyard, and preferably have that backyard extend into Sacramento.
But now I hate UDub more.
Justin Davidson
That kid plays with a mean streak! Me likey!
But now I hate UDub more.
Shaq/Tosh
Man, what a feeling of being jerked around. No one would be angry if Shaq from the get go had wanted to go to UW, or if he had been undecided and then went for UW last night. What’s hard to take is the way it happened – committing to Cal twice and then flipping to the freaking Huskies, who have now eclipsed Stanford as my least favorite team. Unbelievable.
I personally don’t mind the twice-committing.
I just wish he didn’t follow Tosh. I hate to see his unethical actions get rewarded.
by TheScientist019 on Jan 31, 2012 9:23 AM PST up reply actions
But it’s the twice-committing that creates the feeling of loss. Of course, my wife would say that I shouldn’t spend my spare time reading about what colleges 17 year old kids are going to. (Though that didn’t stop her from rubbing it in that her Northwestern Wildcats got Kyle Prater the other day from SC).
Sarkisian took over Shaq's recruitment after Lupoi was hired away.
Lupoi did not factor in Shaq flipping to UW.
But the interesting twist is that once Lupoi became employed by Washington, Thompson said he did not remain a lead recruiter on his heels. Head coach Steve Sarkisian did, including a home visit to see Thompson late last week. Sarkisian also took the lead when Thompson made an unofficial visit to Washington over the weekend. What’s more, Thompson’s close friend is James Sample, a Huskies defensive back.
“Tosh is great but he wasn’t that big of a deal in me going to Washington,” Thompson said. “Sarkisian took over. I liked Coach Sark from the beginning, when I took a trip there (in the fall).”
Read more here: http://blogs.sacbee.com/preps/archives/2012/01/grants-shaq-tho-3.html#more#storylink=cpy
http://blogs.sacbee.com/preps/archives/2012/01/grants-shaq-tho-3.html#more
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 31, 2012 9:14 PM PST up reply actions
So you’re saying Tosh evidently was only the primary UW recruiter for Shaq while he was on our payroll. Awesome.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
I think Cal also offered JUCO transfer CB James Nunley. At least it looks that way.
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Why the hell didn’t we offer last week?
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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 9:36 AM PST up reply actions
/facepalm
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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
I still think we should look at Jontrey Tillman after what the ’Furd did to him.
Disgusting and disgusting.
But that’s how they roll.
Not that this helps any, but . . .
The national runner-up is having recruiting problems this year
They have no 5-stars and only 1 more 4-star than us.
by Lynch's Golf Cart on Jan 31, 2012 9:24 AM PST reply actions
im 90 percent sure
That beaver is going to be a bear same thing with Kenny Lawler who i like a LOT MORE than Walker.
Shaq is the only guy who hurts our program, when it comes to Armstead i have ALWAYS felt that as a DT is going to be mediocre, and we have depth and talent at the DT position.
We still have a shot with Diggs btw.
Not trying to smack you down or anything, but how do you come by this knowledge exactly?
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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 9:38 AM PST up reply actions
insiders
when it comes to the Beaver and Lawler insiders and beaver has a close relationship with Treggs AND!…When it comes to armstead i have said many times that tall DTs have a disadvantage (high center of gravity) and when it comes to Diggs he still has us in his short list, he requested an home visit last week… not saying we are going to get him but we have a shot.
i'll see your imaginary bet
and raise you 50 trillion space bucks!
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Sir
Dont gamble with your kids future… but deal
why do you bet against a positive outcome for us?
just don’t bet against the home team…real or imaginary. bad jujus
blah blah juju blah blah blah
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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
DOOOOOOOOM is all that juju knows!
#doomgang
by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 31, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
His comments about Shaq's decision make it seem like he's going to Washington for sure
by LouisMurphy'sLaw on Jan 31, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
Man, I just can’t wait until September when the guys we got are the guys we got and they suit up and come running onto the new field at Memorial. And I have a beautiful view of the I-House and Campanile, the band is doing their thing, and the students are standing up cheering. Still the best damn experience on a Saturday afternoon in the Fall.
Let this drama be over with already.
by daveman on Jan 31, 2012 9:51 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
I totally agree
This recruiting thing shouldn’t be an athletic event itself. The kids go where they want to go to school. From that student body, we build a team. And the team competes for the pride of the school, not some d-bag coach.
I am totally fine with the decommits and flips. They made the right decision—they didn’t want to represent the University of California. Those who “get it,” like Kline, get it for the right reasons, and I’d rather have a team of Klines, even if they aren’t all five-stars, then a mercenary bunch of fickle kids for whom “school” is just an afterthought.
by slaphancock on Jan 31, 2012 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
Man, I just can’t wait until September when the guys we got are the guys we got and they suit up and come running onto the new field at Memorial.
We all we got. We all we need. #calgang
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by dballisloose on Jan 31, 2012 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
Not to mention last year’s class, which was heavy on defense. We can get some DT’s, etc. next year.
by Lynch's Golf Cart on Jan 31, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
RE: Treggs
I don’t think UCLA has much of a chance. Their class already has 24 commits and Treggs is likely going to come with a few other players (Lawler? Beaver? Bruce?). I think only Cal has the space.
WOOO Well thank goodness we’ve had all these decommits!
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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
But would Mora go the SEC route? (commit too many and force older players on teh bench to transfer) Rumors on some boards he’s willing to do it.
“HA! Suck it UCLA, you can’t have this great player because your class is literally full of great players! Point Cal!”
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Jan 31, 2012 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
how many?
Because Payton and Walker are gone, and Dozier might be. Treggs may not even be a sure thing any more.
We may pull in Lawler.
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Powe, Treggs, Lawler = 3 future starters. If Diggs comes here, that’s a bonus and another future starter. I wish Payton, Walker, and Dozier would stay too, but if we get 3-4 WR’s in this class, I’ll be stoked.
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by dballisloose on Jan 31, 2012 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
Sh*t, can’t forget about Harper. Harper looks real good on film too. I think we’re blessed as it is, no doom at the WR position.
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by dballisloose on Jan 31, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, 3-4 receivers in this class are plenty. Honestly, we don’t need 6 b/c we’re not running 6 receiver sets anytime soon. (You can’t anyway lol) Honestly, I wasn’t a huge fan of using 6-7 scholarships on WR and really wanted a few more scholarships to go towards beefing up the secondary.
I would gladly have taken all of them, but yes, we have more pressing needs elsewhere.
But now I hate UDub more.
yes. and I had a feeling having 6-7 in the same class would mean 2-3 transfers in the next 2-3 years. It must be tough to go from Star HS player/big man on campus to being relegated to 3-4 string/ relative unknown
we were recruiting WR for next year too
half the guys would play this year and the other half would redshirt.
we essentially were taking advanatage of a deep Wr class this year because next year’s will not be as good.
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Given how some of our recent WR recruits arent panning out, I think WR is a need and getting as many WRs is important
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I will be happy with the guys we end up getting and proud of them. The problem is we will all look back at this class and think what could have been. At a time when USC is in trouble and facing sanctions and Oregon beginning to rise, this class coupled with our last two was a chance to close the gap between Cal and USC, as well as as the growing gap between Cal and Oregon.
Luckily we have had a few solids classes before this one and this class will be okay as well but our margin of error with this class is slim. We have seen what happens when Cal goes through some bad recruiting cycles, we are just working our way out of a few bad cycles now. We can’t afford to go through that again.
At a time when USC is in trouble and facing sanctions and Oregon beginning to rise, this class coupled with our last two was a chance to close the gap between Cal and USC, as well as as the growing gap between Cal and Oregon.
I think that’s why we’re all a bit disappointed with the events the last two weeks. But, I think more important than this, is not ever returning to the Pac-10/12 cellar. Our last two seasons have been our worst in a decade, and we’re unhappy with it. If this is our new definition of bottoming out, I’ll take it. Our recruiting in general (and in particular this year) does NOT spell doom for the years to come. We’re in a very good position to remain competitive.
But now I hate UDub more.
We are undefeated
Whats with all the sadness? If they didn’t want to be here, that’s their choice, and their loss. If they committed because they liked their coach, then they win, we win. You don’t want drama when you’re coaching. Memorial will not see a loss this season.
So let it written, so let it be done.
"Our hearts shall sing and our voices ring for the dear old Blue and Gold!"
Still glad we got Kline. A good QB means much more to a program than a safety or DL… Recall how mediocre we were last year despite pretty solid Defense simply because Maynard wasn’t spectacular. If Kline is as good as advertised and blooms, all this doom and gloom over AA and Thompson will be for naught
And I’m glad about Kline because he seems like the right kind of kid for Cal. One who is loyal to his convictions and, from all accounts, truly wants to represent Cal the right way. Heart matters.
by slaphancock on Jan 31, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
This.
All these losses do hurt, but I’m hopeful for Kline and what he can mean to our program as an elite QB. Look how Luck helped turn around the Furdies. I’m clearly guzzling the sunshine kool-aid, but fuck it. Tastes a lot better than dooooooom.
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maybe
Trash Lupus would have screwed us sooner.
why?
the SAHPC is not a recruiting tool, even if it is viewed as one.
it’s for current Cal athletes.
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This
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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
It seems to me that this a little bit of goal past moving. I seem to remember a lot of people using our facilities as a reason why Cal wasn’t getting the top talent and how the SAHPC would help even the recruiting playing field. While the SAHPC may not be the whole reason why a kid picks Cal it is a part of recruiting and is a recruiting tool.
by SDBear on Jan 31, 2012 11:51 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Well, look, of course it helps recruiting, but the point is, our facilities were decrepit and outdated, and so we replaced them because we had crappy facilities. It was something we should have done anyway. It will help with recruiting, but the purpose of the facility is to help our student athletes. If that makes Cal more appealing for prospective student athletes, great!
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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
This + black uniforms = 5-star recruits, no? ;o)
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by Auricursine on Jan 31, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
all white stormtroopers not cool enough?
by j.lee on Jan 31, 2012 12:14 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
i don't think we disagree
The construction of the SAHPC was a necessity based on the poor quality of the previous facilities. It was made for the benefit of Cal’s current and future student athletes. Yes, better recruiting is an expected byproduct of its construction. But that is not its primary function.
I am THE DOOMBRINGER. We Are Cal.
Perhaps but you stated:
the SAHPC is not a recruiting tool, even if it is viewed as one.
It clearly is one and it is used during recruitment
It wasn’t built primarily to be a sexy thing to show recruits. Its main purpose is to help our student-athletes.
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by atomsareenough on Feb 1, 2012 6:28 AM PST up reply actions
You’re not gonna like this, but with our old facilities there’s a good chance we may not have even been in consideration for many of these star players.
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Z ON
by Spazzy Mcgee on Jan 31, 2012 10:58 PM PST up reply actions
most schools
would love that albatross dude! peace out
only 2 more hours before moar doom
#doomgang
by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 31, 2012 11:19 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
I always hoped someone (i.e. you) would make a Cal version of this gif!
Rec’d with enthusiasm unknown to mankind!
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by Berkelium97 on Jan 31, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
If you take Dozier, Payton and Walker off, our commit list suddenly looks rather short. Only 14 players including Treggs who could still bolt for UCLA.
Potential adds: Dalis Bruce, Kenny Lawler, Markuss Eligwe, Raymond Ford, Justin Davidson
Gonna require Tedford and team to really pull some magic before tomorrow, if there’s any left.
We’re going to come up probably 7-8 schollies short. Means some walk-ons are going to get one-year schollies, similar to how Monty gave Thurman one this year.
by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Amazing to me that this is happening in the first year of the SAHPC. What happened to “if you build it, they will come.”? SMH.
The coaches needed to come along too.
by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Perhaps it is time to call some of those UCLA castoffs?
Does ucla have any 3* DB recruits that they are pushing out to make room for everyone else?
UCLA seems to be casting off everyone BUT their DBs.
by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 31, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
Shit! Those assholes!
I saw they are throwing out a lot of low rated LB’s and we really don’t need LB’s at all, especially low rated ones.
We really need DB’s, WR’s (depending on how things go with Treggs) and TE’s.
well, we dont HAVE to sign a full complement but we do have room for 27 altogether (Okafor and Kline are backdated to last year). Thats a lot o fbodies
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by Fire Starkey on Jan 31, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Some of the Oregon fans comments on Shaq’s twitter are embarrassing for that University. I’m glad Cal fans aren’t the ones leaving these messages.
by LouisMurphy'sLaw on Jan 31, 2012 12:37 PM PST reply actions
Got some examples?
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by atomsareenough on Jan 31, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I dunno man, I’ve seen some pretty bad Cal ones as well.
no bear, no care
by EchoOfSilence on Jan 31, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
i hate recruiting.
that’s all. let’s get our guys tomorrow, and move the eff on.
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So what does Cal do with all these scholarships from kids who de-commited? Do they try to poach kids from other programs or hope that they can get these kids back?
probably
use them next year or award one year schollies to walk-ons who earned them.
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I might have to come through
eh? ehhh??
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