Cal Football Recruiting Wire- Counting our Blessings
In the recent aftermath of last week's Operation: Sark and Awe, its time to be thankful for what we have. WE CAN STILL HAVE NICE THINGS! We even got a new one in the form of ATH Damariay Drew!
I speak of those Cal commits who have remained resolute in their commitment to our fine university. For them, we give thanks. We've seen two new coaching hires that will hopefully help right the ship, but much credit must also be given to the members of the class who have worked hard to keep everything together. Oh, and they all happen to be very good football players too.
Below is a summary of the committed players in the 2012 class, and where they're at with their commitments.
LOCKED IN
Zach Kline, QB (Cal) San Ramon Valley (San Ramon, CA). Enrolled at Cal and started classes in the midst of Toshageddon. It was probably an interesting few days on campus as Zach saw two coaches depart and his fellow Cal commits questioning their loyalty to the school and the program. A bummer, no doubt. Bear Insider had these comments from Zach in a nice article summarizing what many of the commits were feeling as news of Tosh's departure broke:
"I talked to Bryce and everyone and it sucks but we're all here for a much bigger reason than just one coach," said Kline. "We're here to play ball for Coach Tedford. We're here to play ball for the university. We're here because we made the best decisions for ourself.
"Coach Lupoi was a hell of a coach and we'll miss him but it's not going to change our goals with where we want to be in the future."
The maturity with which Zach handled the news was refreshing. And his sentiments are echoed by many of his future teammates. Great to have him on campus and enjoying what Cal has to offer!
Christian Okafor, OT (Cal) Westbury (Houston, TX). Also enrolled at Cal and started classes. I wasn't able to find any comments from Okafor on the coaching turmoil, but his commitment to Cal was never about Tosh or Kiesau. From a Rivals commitment story in December:
"It was coach (Jeff) Tedford. He's a great head coach. He wants to know his players and he wants to make sure his players do well after college. That was the main thing I was worried about, life after football.
"I knew I could do something in football and everything but what about after that? Cal demonstrated they do care about what happens after football."
Okafor is smart dude (wanting to major in a science...one of his primary reasons for enrolling early). He also is a very good football player and will provide a much needed boost at the tackle spots. Great guy to have in the fold. Welcome to Cal, big fella!
SOLID
Good news. There's a lot of guys in this category!
Matt Cochran, OL (Cal) Buhach (Atwater, CA). Not only remained firm in his commitment but also worked to keep the class together. Cochran is another clear leader of this class, and he handled his commitment with the maturity you'd expect from a High School class president. Below quotes from the same BI article where Kline was quoted:
"At first I was shocked and I had a like a 30 minute period wondering what I was going to do, like some other recruits," said Cochran. "But after talking to Coach Tedford and Coach M (offensive line coach Jim Michalczik), I'm confident in my decision and I don't think I have anything to worry about.
"After a while, I had to realize why I committed in the first place and I didn't commit because of Coach Tosh, even though I was close to him. That's what a lot of recruits are saying the same thing right now, too.
"It kind of hurts, but again, I didn't make just a purely football decision to choose Cal. It wasn't just because of one coach. It was a lot of the coaches and all the great guys we'll be playing with.
"Football's a business and changes happen. This is just the first of many changes in years to come."
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Matt is one of my favorite recruits in this class. He's going to be a great player for us, but he's also a great person who comes from a good family. We're very lucky to have him.
Freddie Tagaloa, OL (Cal) Salesian (Richmond, CA). Yet another critical piece of the class at a position of major need, Big Freddie T is solid to Cal! Below quotes courtesy of Bear Territory:
"I'm still all Cal,...Coming from a player's perspective, a personal perspective, it's kind of a shocker, because the way he recruited was '#CalGang, we're all family, we're all this,' and I talked to him not too long ago, and it was the same thing. Come today, it's a big shock. But, on the other hand, I mean, to provide for his family and what needs to be done, there has to be perspective. If they offered him more money for his family, his family comes first, so he had to do what he had to do."
"What everybody's thinking about is that it's a specific coach, but when you commit, you've got to think beyond the coach, beyond the school, beyond the recruiter. And that's what did it for me. It's upsetting that [Lupoi] had to leave, but overall, Cal's where I belong."
Steven Moore, OL Elk Grove (Elk Grove, CA). Like his OL colleagues, Steven remained firm in his commitment to Cal. Perhaps Coach M needs to be given a bit more credit for his recruiting skills? Again, critical piece to keep in the fold. Very glad to have Steven staying strong in his commitment. Tweetage courtesy of Mr. Moore himself:
@stevenmoore73: Rule #1: Cant pick a school just on coaching, have to love the school. Coaches are always moving around.
@stevenmoore73: Im still 100% to cal.
@stevenmoore73: I feel like me and all my#CAL commits are just ready to get to berkeley and start workin'!
Darius Powe, WR (Cal) Lakewood (Lakewood, CA). Darius affirmed his commitment...twice. Once after Tosh left, and once again after Kiesau left. Awesome. He's a guy with great size, range, hands...and upside! Love that Darius has stayed committed. Once again, he chose Cal for the right reasons and I thank him for it.
@powe10pow: Thats why they say dont pick college on coaches cuz they come and go !!!
@adamgorney: Four-star WR and#Cal commit Darius Powe said there is "no change" in his recruitment with Tosh Lupoi leaving for#Washington.
Chris Harper, WR (Cal) Crespi (Encino, CA). (twitter link and quote). Harper stayed true to us and had good things to say about our new WR coach, Wes Chandler. It had to be tough on our WR commits to see their future position coach bail. A good hire and their patience in allowing the hire to be made were very pleasant. Chris will be a solid addition to our WR corps and brings some nice deep threat potential that we haven't seen much of as of late. He stayed solid, and is ready to do some recruiting for our Bears this weekend!
@ItsChrisHarper: Coach Lupoi leaving doesn't alter my decision at all I'm 100%#Calgang.
@ItsChrisHarper: Since the best QB is stayin at Cal and my bro@BryceTreggs is staying, all I have to worry about is the type of offense were going to run.
@ItsChrisHarper: Time to get all these people committed to the #1 public school...in the world.
Bryce Treggs, WR (Cal) St. John Bosco (Bellflower, CA). I'm considering Bryce as solid, but he's still having a look around. After a good official visit to UCLA last weekend, he'll be visiting USC on an official today and tomorrow before heading up to Cal for an unofficial. If there's any threat at all, it'll be UCLA. His buddy Ish Adams has been putting in solid recruiting work for the Bruins, and its possible childhood friend and fellow WR Kodi Whitfeld may flip from Stanford to UCLA. Still, Treggs is all Cal in his heart. We need him too. He'll be able to make an immediate impact next year. Here's some quotes about his in-home with Coach Chandler, courtesy of Bear Territory ($):
"The visit with him was great," Bryce said. "He has a bit of a different style than coach [Eric] Kiesau, because he's an older, more laid-back guy, but he's a very knowledgeable guy."
"He has a great passion for the game," Bryce said. "He can help me reach my full potential as a wide receiver.""I'm still solidly committed,"
Michael Barton, LB (Cal) De La Salle (Concord, CA). The second 2012 recruit to verbally commit to the Bears affirmed his commitment in full this week. Thank God. Barton is a tackling machine and future star. he showed out in his senior season and again during the Semper Fidelis All-American Bowl. He spoke to Bear Terrirotory about his reasons for staying with Cal. Article here($), one tidbit below:
"The program, I chose Cal for the rich tradition it has there, and of course, the location; I'm a Bay Area kid," Barton said. "Going back up to the school, seeing everybody, being in that atmosphere again, it just made me feel comfortable, and made me realize what I wanted to do. I think, just going up there and re-affirming with the coaches that Cal is still Cal -- regardless of who's there -- really helped me, as well."
Hardy Nickerson Jr, LB (Cal) Bishop O'Dowd (Oakland, CA). Hardy Jr never wavered, announcing he was firm in his commitment quickly following the news of the coaching departures. Good thing, too. Hardy will be a real hammer in the middle of the defense in the coming years. No doubt, his dad is proud that his son will be a Bear as well. You want a tweet that leaves no doubt? BAM:
@HardyNickerson: Nothing will make me change my mind I committed to cal not to a person so it's#calgang for life
NO NEWS IS GOOD NEWS?
Haven't found anything newsworthy (good or bad) about the commitment status of Junior Espitia (FB) or Cole Leininger (P), but I think any news at this juncture would just be bad. We can assume they're solid until we hear otherwise.
POSSIBLY WAVERING
Zach Hoffpauir, S (Cal) Centennial (Peoria, AZ). Took an OV to ASU, and may have been admitted to Stanford. Claiming to be solid to Cal, but threats are imminent. Anyone who watched the Semper Fi game knows this is not a guy we want to see elsewhere in the PAC-12. If Hoff was, in fact, admitted to Stanford, his decision may get a bit tougher. Quotes come from this Rivals article:
"I am committed to Cal right now. I'm waiting to get admitted to Stanford and then after that I don't know what's going on. I'm committed to Cal right now and that's where I'm looking."
Cedric Dozier, WR (Cal) Lakes (Lakewood, WA). Took an OV to Wazzu and was rumored to be staying with Cal. News has since spread that Cedric will be visiting UW after speaking to Coach Kiesau and that UW is pursuing him as a WR now, rather than a DB as they initially were. Uh oh! Bob Condotta of the Seattle Times tweeted the news yesterday:
@bcondotta: UW now recruiting Dozier as a WR. UW OC Eric Kiesau had recruited Dozier as a WR at Cal.
Kenny Walker, WR (Cal) Kennedy (Richmond, CA). Took an OV to UCLA, and is planning an OV to Washington. Despite conflicting reports, Kenny seems to be keeping his options open. One article even claimed Kenny was close to committing to UCLA last weekend on his visit. Don't you have to de-commit first? I'd like to think the allure of staying close to home and the education Cal can offer make the difference here, but its only normal that a guy who just lost his position coach would want to look around. We'll see if Kiesau and the seal-clubbers can turn him.
ELEPHANTS IN THE ROOM:
Shaq Thompson, S (Cal) Grant (Sacramento, CA). Supposedly, Shaq is now considering holding off until after National Signing Day before making his decision. He currently has a top three of Cal, UW, and UCLA, with Oregon slightly behind. Frankly, the longer this plays out, the better I think it is for us. I don't need to tell anyone how important Shaq is to this class and this team. If he needs time to see that Cal is still the place for him, I'm okay with that. This is not a sure thing by any means though.
Jordan Payton, WR (Cal) Oaks Christian (Westlake, CA). Took an OV to Washington and apparently loved it. Looking like it will be us or the Huskies, with Payton planning to announce on a SoCal sport channel next Tuesday. Despite all the turmoil of the last week, I think we have a pretty good shot of holding onto him. On the flipside, he does seem like the commit we're most likely to lose at this point (McCarthy doesn't count any more).
IN CONCLUSION
So...we're actually doing okay. This class has a very good chance of remaining pretty much intact, and that doesn't include some of the big fish that we're still in it for. DJ Foster is announcing tomorrow at 11:45am AZ time. We've got a good shot at him. Armstead is still a very real possibility. Brandon Beaver will be visiting this weekend. That's big.
We're gonna be alright. Be thankful for the guys who we have and let's show some appreciation for the maturity with which many of these guys have handled this. They've certainly been more mature than me. That's not hard though.
ALL IS WELL!
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Let me just say....
…..I thought I was pretty mature when I graduated high school, but these guys have really great perspective on their choices and their futures. They seem like thoughtful young men and I’m glad to have them all as Bears.
Thanks, MBC, for THIS perspective.
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
by BTown85 on Jan 26, 2012 4:04 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Visiting this Weekend?
Wasn’t this weekend supposed to have a lot of our recruits in Berkeley? Any idea who that is now? Congrats to those that have kept their commitment, and welcome to Cal!
by MV Bear on Jan 26, 2012 5:41 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Brandon Beaver (CB, Dominguez). We’re in his final three with Utah and UW.
Ukeme Eligwe (OLB, Stone Mountain). FSU commit.
Jeffrey Coprich (ATH, West Ranch). Cal/Hawaii battle.
Corey Coleman (WR, Pearce). Not sure if he’s being recruited as a DB.
Raymond Ford (CB, Junipero Serra).
Adcock’s brother I believe will be visiting too. New Mexico commit.
Treggs, Drew, Moore, Harper and Barton are also supposedly in town.
by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 26, 2012 6:04 AM PST up reply actions
Fucking eh.
no bear, no care
by EchoOfSilence on Jan 26, 2012 7:39 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Well, we’re pretty solid with Treggs, Powe, Haper, Dozier, and Walker, and we’re still in the mix for Payton, Diggs, and Coleman.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
Overreaction much?
Having a kid not choose Cal isn’t cause for alarm. It happens hundreds of times every year.
The junior Adcock is the only other OL that we’re potentially in the mix for, right?
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 7:24 AM PST up reply actions
there may be one or two more actually
i just don’t know who they are.
I am THE DOOMBRINGER. We Are Cal.
I’ve read that Garrett Adcock will not be coming this weekend
Tony Gonzalez? University of California?
No offense, but.....
…….New Mexico State? Aren’t they perpetually in the bottom 5 of all FBS programs? I’m sure it’s pretty there and all, but if you had Pac-12 opportunities I’d have a hard time passing them up.
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
actually
it’s UNM, not New Mexico State. GO LOBOS! but yeah, both programs are bad.
still, they showed Garrett a lot more love. Can’t really fault him for opting to go that route. who knows if its really a done deal though.
I am THE DOOMBRINGER. We Are Cal.
He had an offer from Harvard! Why would you go to UNM over Harvard??
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
No scholarships @ Harvard? $50K a year and its the Furd of the East?
by MV Bear on Jan 26, 2012 10:58 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
oh
They don’t do athletic scholarships?
Nevermind, then.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
They don’t do scholarships the same way non-D1 schools “don’t do scholarships”.
by Missing Barry on Jan 26, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
…which way is that?
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
Yep, I know two kids that played basketball at Yale and also the kicker at Yale. They didn’t have impressive academic resumes and did not come from families with a lot of money
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
By giving scholarships that aren’t athletic scholarships.
by Missing Barry on Jan 26, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Still, they have hella financial aid, don’t they? Or if the family could afford it, you’d have to imagine Harvard is worth it.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
Depends on a lot of things – the school, the actual degree, the individual….
by Missing Barry on Jan 26, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
just considering money…i’d consider paying for an ivy…another private…say lmu or pepperdine, prolly not.
(i too considered the ivies, but no way i was going back east. on my visit over easter break, it was still snowing and saw some chunks of ice floating down the charles river. too much of a california boy.)
Berkeley was the same price as the Ivys for me…and I definitely think it was worth it
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
I hope you’re donating back to the school then
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
Oh I wasn’t trying to start an in-state vs out-of-state thing….just for j.lee specifically since he seems to have received some scholarships
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
This is a bad attitude to have. Paying taxes to the State of California is not the same thing as making a deliberate donation of your after tax income to the University of California. Less than 30% of UC Berkeley’s operating budget comes from state funding. As alums of the finest public institution of higher learning in the world, we shouldn’t have the attitude that “the state will pay for it” if we expect UC Berkeley to continue to maintain high standards and compete with private schools that have endowments that are 10x, 25x, 50x or even 100x the size of Berkeley’s endowment.
I hope none of us have the attitude that “paying taxes” is the same as “giving back to your alma mater” because you’d have to pay those taxes regardless of where the money got spent. If you really want to “give back” go here and donate.
by daveman on Jan 26, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
I think I love you daveman!
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
I think I love you daveman!
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
I think ASTQ loves you daveman
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Whoa there. I’m not equating the two forms of giving, I was simply taking umbrage with ASTQ’s implied assertion that somehow j.lee owed it to them. Each taxpayer gives to the University whether they like it or not.
I’m a huge fan of private donation and have done so many times in the past and will continue to do so in the future. In fact, I wish 0% of the UC operating budget came from taxes.
Like I said, depends on the school, the degree, the individual…small private schools offer a different experience than big public schools. For some people, that’s a better fit. Others, it’s not. And of course we all know every school has strong programs and worthless degrees…
by Missing Barry on Jan 26, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
Many of the private schools are now need based aid. My son’s top 4 schools are Furd, Princeton, Georgetown, and Cal. Furd, Princeton, and GTown are all need based aid. So they look at how much money the parents make and offer financial aid based on it. For example, at Princeton and Georgetown, if you are under 125K income, they will cover tuition (like 40K). Then the housing is prorated. At Furd, I think it is 100K and they cover tuition. Under 60K and it is all free. And these aren’t loans. They are grants, credit, or whatever you want to call it. Their aim now is to have you leave college with as little debt as possible.
The ironic thing is that since Cal is out of state, the 1st year at Cal (30K+) will be much more out of pocket than the other 3 for me. After the 1st year, he’ll be in state and it will be much lower.
Jorge Gutierrez is "The guy with the hair plays with the flair"
They steer Athletes towards academic and merit based scholarships
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by secret ASian man on Jan 26, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
I’m not sure he has Pac-12 opportunities. Don’t think Cal has actually offered him a scholarship.
by Missing Barry on Jan 26, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
well done
You da Man, Bear Cal
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by TKE Prytanis 79 on Jan 26, 2012 6:04 AM PST reply actions
Isn't Arik Armstead another
Elephant in the room? Are we still in the mix for his beastly services?
by C98 on Jan 26, 2012 7:24 AM PST via mobile reply actions
... ok, just saw him mentioned in the
conclusion. Hope we get him.
by C98 on Jan 26, 2012 7:25 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
yeah
this post was really about focusing on the guys who have already committed.
but Armstead, Foster, Beaver and some other guys are very much in play still.
I am THE DOOMBRINGER. We Are Cal.
How do things look w/DJ Foster? He’s announcing tomorrow, right? He looks like an absolute BEAST of a running back.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
i think its 50/50 between Cal and ASU for Foster
supposedly his parents are pro-Cal. Still tough to pull him out of state.
should be interesting tomorrow.
I am THE DOOMBRINGER. We Are Cal.
Parents better be for Cal. What parent in their right mind would want their kid to go to ASU if a scholarship offer is given from Cal? Well…unless there are reasons for the kid to stay close to home…
I think that...
….we’re past the point where smart-a88 comments about a recruit’s other final choices for school are going to make him decide not to go to any of them. I think it’s a matter of disrespect at this point to tell the recruit that his judgment could not possibly be right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Blah blah blah we’re still good blah blah loads of kids are solid blah blah blah just be patient blah blah blah.
Funny, I read this and all I could think was DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
Being an Old Blue means embracing the "meh".
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

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by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 26, 2012 7:42 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Really? All I could think was HOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPEEEEEEE
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
I am so, so, so incredibly sick of this DOOOM bullshit. I tell you, one of these days I’m just gonna go off the deep end with this shit and delete every single fucking post I see that mentions the word DOOOOM in it, and probably end up getting kicked off the hit squad for abusing my powers. But it’s just so stupid, and it reflects extremely poorly upon us as a fanbase. I mean, imagine a player or a recruit that comes on the site and sees every other word is DOOOOM. How can you get excited about a school and a program with a culture like that? It completely ignores and overshadows all the amazing things that are happening at UC Berkeley, both academically and athletically. We have so much to be excited about, we have the most awesome kids in the country at our school, and great new facilities, and great professors and coaches and so many of us who bleed blue and gold and passionately care for the entire Cal family. We have excellent, winning programs in SO many sports from crew to water polo to rugby to basketball to baseball to yes football, and we have a great set of football recruits, an amazing new AND historic stadium which will be modern and yet have some fantastic tradition at the same time… we should all be PUMPED the fuck up, and yet every other post is DOOM this and DOOM that, and it pisses me off. Yeah, I know it’s somewhat ironic at this point and almost a joke for most people, but it’s not a funny joke, and it’s reflective of a loser mentality. We’re not losers. Even when we lose we’re not losers because we went to Cal. Enough already with this doom business.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions 12 recs
but we have all these extra o's to use
vroom, perhaps?
Count me in this camp
Sometimes it’s makes me crack a smile or laugh. But I do think some here could exude more confidence especially in light of the recruiting classes we’ve been pulling lately.
If it makes you feel any better, I am a loser and have a loser’s mentality.
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by TwistNHook on Jan 26, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions 4 recs
This is green now. I guess it did make people feel better!
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It’s not any one person or instance, it’s more of a collective thing.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
We fight for California. We do not FIGHT FOR JUMBACOS!

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by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 26, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Did your Valium prescription run out?
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by CalBear81 on Jan 26, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Also, why you callin’ us “Cal”?
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by CalBear81 on Jan 26, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Oh no he diiiiiiiidn’t!
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by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 26, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
It’s a name that we are known by, like it or not.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
I do like it
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My sarcasm reader isn’t working right today. Are you being sarcastic? More than half of the shirts and hats I have, including the shirt I happen to be wearing today, just say “Cal.”
I was teasing atoms. He has been on a one-man crusade recently against Cal, insisting that using that name somehow diminishes our University and its athletic programs. I’m sure he’ll be happy to explain it to you. At length.
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I’ve stated in the past that I find it unfortunate that our branding is so confusing and inconsistent (UC Berkeley, California, Cal, Berkeley, Cal-Berkeley). If we’d just stuck with “California” for our sports teams like all other flagship state schools it’d save a lot of confusion. But that ship has sailed, obviously.
CalBear81 sure loves giving me shit about it though.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
I agree with this to a certain degree. I think our branding has been hurt a bit by having people use so many names for California.
However, I have no problem with Cal. I believe we should just stick with California but I see no problem in calling us Cal for short. We are the University of California, we are Cal.
I think Cal for sports and UC Berkeley for academics is perfect.
California is a lame way to refer to our school IMO
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
I have one gray shirt I run in that says California in gold. I’ve had a couple folks give me a Go Bears but I wonder how many people assume it’s just a shirt from the state of California and have no idea it’s related to the school.
I had a few friends in high school (in Kansas) who always wore Cal hats. When I got accepted to Berkeley, I would point at their hats telling them, “that’s my school!”
They would reply, “Cal is a school?”
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Cal needs to do a better job of branding itself
also most states only have two big schools, while Cal has numerous universities.
Kansas is really only know for KU and KSU.
However, California is known for numerous schools such as California, stanfurd, ucla, usc, and to a lesser extent sdsu and sjsu.
How can Cal do a better job of branding itself?
Why you hat Fort Hayes State and Pittsburg State (Division II Champs!)?
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
It’s tough. I think that clearly, the name “Berkeley” has a really vaunted academic reputation that is very well established. Yet of course none of our sports teams go by that, and I think it’s great that we get to be California, because we are THE University of California, the flagship campus. But there’s always going to be an inherent disconnect between the two, and it’s hard to bridge.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
inherent disconnect between the two, and it’s hard to bridge
I understand your concern, but I’m fine with things the way they are. Like most people, I usually say “Berkeley” when I’m referring to the university as a whole, and “Cal” when I’m referring to sports. I’m sure it’s confusing for some people, but oh well. I guess I would be concerned, if Berkeley was a small or unknown school, but it’s obviously not.
Also, (obviously) Berkeley is not the only school with multiple names. See, for example, the University of Nevada, Reno (the discussion refers to Berkeley as a similar case).
Side note, the University of Illinois at Urbana—Champaign rebranded in 2008, moving from “UIUC” or “University of Illinois at Urbana—Champaign” to simply “Illinois.” I highly doubt anything like that would happen at Berkeley, and I don’t think it should. It’s a different case. Not easy to say “Urbana—Champaign” for example. And, I’d say Berkeley’s identity is much more tied to “Berkeley” than Illinois’ identity was tied to “Urbana—Champaign.”
The only thing I’m worried about is that people who don’t really follow the Pac-12 think Cal is like the SEC of the west. I’ve been working really hard to diffuse that blasphemy.
Sure, but what I’m getting at is that as if the Berkeley/California dichotomy weren’t enough of a challenge, adding Cal just makes it more confusing, because it’s not entirely clear that Cal = University of California, Berkeley. Especially when there is an entire system of schools that go by “Cal State”. Many many times I’ve mentioned Cal, even here in the Bay Area and gotten… “Cal? …Cal State?” in response. And then I say, NO, I mean Berkeley, and they go OHHH. It’s frustrating.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
It does suck to be them, but it also underscores the branding problems I’m talking about :)
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
Sure. I’m not discounting what you’re saying. It is really annoying when people confuse Cal with Cal State. I just don’t know what might be a good solution. “Cal” and “Berkeley” are just too entrenched; I wouldn’t want to desert either. I mean, should the sports teams go by “Berkeley”? “California”? What would we do with the script “Cal”?
End of the day, if somebody really thinks Cal is Cal State, they’re either really uninformed or just trolling.
Oh, sure. Like I said, the ship has sailed. It is what it is at this point. It’s just unfortunate, that’s all.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
I also think it also depends on who you’re talking to. When I’m talking to someone from a UC/sc/Cal Tech, they instantly recognize it. It’s only those that went to CSUF, CSUN that have that problem.
That’s a lot of people though. There are 23 CSU campuses.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
I agree that academically people know Berkeley. If you are into college BB or FB, they may know Cal.
Here in Louisville, I’ve had people ask if Cal is in LA? Or which school is it. I’ve had to explain it to them. The educated people know that Berkeley is the smart school but probably don’t associate Cal or California with Berkeley. Don’t even get me into explaining Cal State school to them.
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I hate it when some people ask me if I went to Cal State when I’m wearing a Cal shirt. It’s usually the people that have never been to college, but it still sucks
Keanu Reeves did this to a friend of mine who gave him her Cal hat on a SW airlines flight back in the early 90s. He turns to her and says, “Aww cool — Cal, is that like Cal State?”
Are you sure he didn’t say, “Woah…” first?
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by CopyBear on Jan 26, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Much ado about nothing
I didn’t know Texas was UT Austin before football.
“Cal-Berkeley” is a way of covering both bases. “Cal” to indicate California. “Berkeley” to indicate the specific school. “California” is ambiguous in the same sense as Texas is stated above. Same goes for Michigan.
Once California becomes a national power, players can start saying “California” much like Oregon says “Oregon.”
You knew about UT Austin before you knew about Texas? Usually people know about Berkeley before they know about Cal.
I actually agree with you, and I think Cal-Berkeley is a decent enough way to tie the two together. Making lemonade out of lemons, if you well. To a lot of people though, the use of “Cal-Berkeley” gives them fits because it’s not the official name or whatever.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
I like Cal
it says that we are the top school in California. UCLA can suck it.
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I do too.
And my USC friend does too. He likes the Cal logo and brand, it feels and looks old school or throwback to him. I think the blue with the Cal logo looks great. And just saying Cal sounds so much better than UC Berkeley, Berkeley, California, etc. It just ‘works’ for a school’s sports program.
Also, when I was in high school or college, not many people would actually refer to the school as Berkeley. It was always “Oh, I’m choosing between Cal and UCLA.”
“California” says that.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
Our helmets say Cal so I have no problem with Cal
as our nickname.
Yeah
but it’s a handful to say and makes more sense that to say “I went to California”
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Other team/state names that are a handful to say
Tennessee, Wisconsin, Washington, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Georgia Tech, Mississippi State, Alabama
Yet we don’t have to shorten those, and it makes sense for people to say, “I went to ____”
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
Except
none of those other schools have an viable alternative school to list.
California has a bunch of schools.
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The University of Wisconsin has several campuses. I know UW-GB even has competitive athletics, for example. University of Texas has other campuses (UTSA, UTEP). The flagship school gets to be known by the state name. It’s pretty standard.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
I'm going to say
that no one knows of any UoW school other than Wisconsin.
Texas is a completely different category and football wise, there is really no one close.
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California is a different category too. Football-wise, the only public school that’s close is UCLA, and they have a very distinct identity with those 4 letters. We don’t really get confused with them.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
Right
but no one attributes the name California to a particular university like Wisconsin, Tennessee, or Texas.
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I’m saying they should, because that’s us!
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
Um…yeah they do.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/college/_/letter/c
What school did all those guys from “California” go to?
by Missing Barry on Jan 26, 2012 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
I know
California is the formal name used but if someone ask you where you went to school, you don’t say California.
I say Cal all the time and people get that it’s Cal Berkeley.
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BTW
Wow Cal has a boatload (pun intended) of people playing in the NFL.
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But they all name their middle school as their college, so, well, yknow.
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on the branding of Cal
I don’t think we’re nearly as exceptional in this as we’d like to think.
New Mexico, New Mexico State
Montana, Montana State
Mississippi, Mississippi State
North Dakota, North Dakota State
Loyola, Loyola Marymount
St. John’s, St. Joe’s
…
People confuse these things all the time.
Moreover, various abbreviations such as Cal, Carolina, Ole Miss, etc., can only serve to strengthen the brand, helping distinguish the particular school/campus from a crowded field. If we didn’t have “Cal”, would we have any chance of being recognized east of the Rockies as something distinct from UCLA, UCSB, San Diego State, et al.?
Rather than the weakness of “Cal” or “California”, I think it’s the strength of “Berkeley” that’s the primary issue. As far as college-town associations, Berkeley is in a league by itself, with a second tier of Austin, Madison, Boulder, and maybe a few others. I wouldn’t necessarily see this as a problem, either, and it can indeed be very handy for alumni when we wish, for whatever reason and it whatever context, to distance our alma mater from the perceptions surrounding the Athletics Department. It’s tough, after all, for ‘SC grads to convince people they attended a world-class institution—they did, get over it, keep your snide remarks to yourself—and not just a football team with a school. Likewise, I suspect that there are more than a few Penn State alumni who wouldn’t mind the option right now of saying they attended “State College”.(“Really? Which state college?”)
I love Cal. I love Berkeley. I even love UCal-Berkeley. (OK. Maybe not that last one.) In the end, they all translate into: “Go Bears!”
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Jan 26, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions
Other than California University of Pennsylvania, which is almost unknown, what other major university has “California” in its most widely known name?
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
You shouold change your handle to UC Berkeely pete
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As far as college-town associations, Berkeley is in a league by itself, with a second tier of Austin, Madison, Boulder, and maybe a few others.
Hmm?
by Missing Barry on Jan 26, 2012 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
If the “Hmm?” refers to my “second tier”, I agree. It would be a hard list to define.
But I think this only confirms the oddity of the prominence of the Berkeley name. Note that the university’s internet domain is berkeley.edu, not cal.edu or uc-berkeley.edu or california.edu. This isn’t truly unique, for there are a handful of CSUs that do the same (e.g., Fullerton.edu). CITYNAME.edu also is the norm among the SUNY campuses, and there are a few other public universities out there, such as Towson State and Kent State, that are officially named after their city (rather than state) and use a CITYNAME.edu domain accordingly.
But as far as I can tell, among the major flagship state universities, Cal is the only one to use CITYNAME.edu.
And as an aside, having spent part of my early childhood in Montana where I grew up fully immersed in the Grizzlies-Bobcats intrastate rivalry, I find it very amusing that Montana State snagged montana.edu, leaving the Missoulans with umt.edu.
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Jan 26, 2012 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
Ha, the “hmm” was more along the lines of you think you going to Cal had anything to do with your thinking Berkeley is alone on the first tier? ;)
by Missing Barry on Jan 26, 2012 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
Can you name any others? I think there are several CSUs, such as Cal State Fullerton, San Diego State, SF State, LB State, etc… that are associated with their cities, but I can’t think of a single flagship state university that goes by their city name. Did you apply to Austin? No, you applied to Texas or UT.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
I definitely tell people I might go to Austin!
by Missing Barry on Jan 26, 2012 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
As a place. I have never, ever once heard the school referred to as Austin, as people refer to Berkeley.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 27, 2012 8:02 AM PST up reply actions
Just today I told someone I was applying to Cal, Stanford and UT. Their response: no Berkeley?
…I would be very hesitant to generalize how the whole country sees things from the perspective of a Californian. These kinds of things are regional.
by Missing Barry on Jan 27, 2012 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
I didn’t know Berkeley = Cal or California until I was a junior in high school. In California.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 27, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
Santa Cruz! (also Chico)
"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"
by CruzinBears on Jan 26, 2012 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
…etc!
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by atomsareenough on Jan 27, 2012 8:01 AM PST up reply actions
Both
Are correct. It is confusing and we need to be consistent with our use of Cal as a brand.
Props to California Golden Blogs, and #CalGang for helping the cause.
by DancingBear96 on Jan 26, 2012 8:41 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Nobody’s debating what’s correct.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
Yep, clearly I need medication for having a point of view!
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
I actually didn’t threaten. In fact, you’ll note that I characterized such a move as “going off the deep end” out of frustration. The point, in case you missed it, is that the posts are really disturbing and counterproductive. Several others seem to agree with that assessment, so I don’t know what you need to be so goddamn snarky about it. If you disagree, fine, make your case.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe you could pick some up for me when you head to the pharmacy to refill on Actonel and Cenestin.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
For being old! :-P
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
It’s no valium joke, that’s for sure.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
Okay, okay. I’ll write you a new script.
But you have to buy your own soda and Jolly Ranchers.
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by Kodiak on Jan 26, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
I got a pretty bad cough by the way. Might need a scrip for some of that lean codeine cough syrup.
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It was fantastic."
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DOOOOMMM
DELETE ME DAMMIT
(btw rec’d even though I’m perpetually nervous, your mentality is the correct one)
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Jan 26, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Thanks, MBC!
These are great. You have picked up where the awesome Solarise left off with aplomb.
Is it me or does Cochran’s head shot look like that pissed off picture of MSF?
Zack Kline
He’s up on the football roster. I just wish they could have put up another pic that didn’t make him look like a thirteen year old.
http://www.calbears.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/kline_zach00.html
A song to go along with this post's message.
Link
Just do what it says and you should be fine before, during, and after February 1st. We’ll do fine.
"Our hearts shall sing and our voices ring for the dear old Blue and Gold!"
Without clicking the link.....
…..is it Bobby McFarrin, Don’t Worry Be Happy?
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
Greg Schiano left Rutgers…
so Hamilton is a maybe?
The Rose Bowl is too mainstream anyway.
by KeenanAllenFett on Jan 26, 2012 8:53 AM PST reply actions
DHam to Florida
is all but a sure thing now. We were supposed to have in-home with him this week, but I think any legit shot we had went out the window when Tosh bailed.
I am THE DOOMBRINGER. We Are Cal.
Tampa Bay really wanted a college football coach
I am surprised they didn’t come after Tedford.
Maybe they did and he turned them down?
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Perhaps, although it seems like in this day and age we would have heard about it
IMO, Tedford is just as, if not more qualified than Schiano.
If you think Cals offense has been bad since 07, that Rutger offense has been an absolute dumpster fire.
I feel the RU fanbase also has a culture of DOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM
Perhaps that’s why RU is team #2 behind Cal for me.
Never mind the fact that I’m neck deep in student loans from Dear Old Rutgers.
Californian in Exile:
by secret ASian man on Jan 26, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Nope
My affilitation with Rutgers didn’t happen until much later.
Californian in Exile:
by secret ASian man on Jan 26, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Dear old Rutgers? That’s unfortunate, time spent in NJ is never a good thing.
by Missing Barry on Jan 26, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
Gorcey:
“#Cal fans, RELAX with Shaq Thompson. Just trust me. I haven’t steered you wrong. Let the kid breathe. You won’t be disappointed.”
We must stop talking about Shaq, as I guess it’s become apparent that he reads the blog(s).
no bear, no care
by EchoOfSilence on Jan 26, 2012 9:19 AM PST via mobile reply actions 3 recs
I feel like we don’t discuss him THAT much here, just a lot of people saying how much they want him etc…. I think it might be more for the Cal fans on Twitter that keep tweeting/pestering Shaq asking if he’s made up his mind yet. AGorcey goes on to say, supporting messages from Cal fans, might help more. Seriously, people on twitter that tweet him everyday, STOP. you’re not helping. Stop tweeting the other recruits on the fence too while you’re at it.
well said
bugging recruits on twitter makes us look pathetic. let Washington fans stoop to that level.
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by ManBearCal on Jan 26, 2012 9:34 AM PST up reply actions 7 recs
If I don’t tweet @ recruits that actually DECREASES my patheticness! It’s win-win!
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Yeah, let’s leave these kids alone. Tweet to them after they’re Bears if you want, but for now these are just high school kids.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 9:47 AM PST up reply actions
Once again, if you are a grown man and you are not a coach for a CFB or somehow directly involved with the recruiting process you should never contact a kid via Twitter.
It is pathetic, please stop.
by SDBear on Jan 26, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
What if you are a grown woman?
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You know, I almost added "grown woman" but no CFB staff currently employees a woman
as part of their coaching staff.
Unless you are a recruits mother, related to him or a good friend most women should not be contacting these kids via twitter for recruiting purposes.
Not to be rude but what is that even supposed to mean? Do you reallly believe some recruits mother?
How would some recruits mother know? Who did she hear that from?
At best that that comes off to me as nothing more than pure speculation on her part or even worse, negative recruiting tactics by a certain staff located in Washington.
I agree that Tedford is under a bit of pressure to win these next few years but guess what, so is every other CFB coach. The same could be said for Sark, that is why he went out and spent so much money on a defensive staff. Sarks job will not be secure if he doesn’t win a lot of games over the next few seasons.
Even if true, the recruit’s mother is of pure emotion and really means little to me. It’s not as if Tedford lied to the recruit—he just couldn’t hold on to a staff member that tricked many into believing that he’d be around to foster the players.
Tony Gonzalez? University of California?
by ikoolykedat on Jan 26, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
i forgot who it was
But it was one of the quotes mentioned on Monday night last week when everyone was reacting to Tosh’s departure. Let me go find it.
which recruit would that be?
if you’re talking about Kenny Lawler’s folks, they’re flat out wrong.
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It said "parents" not mother, sorry
But according to Sacramento Bee’s Joe Davidson’s twitter
Hearing from several parents of Cal verbal commits & one writes "Losing Tosh changes it for our son & may cost Tedford his job long term."
Losing games will cost Tedford his job long-term.
by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 26, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
Its true in the sense that it may coast TEdford his job. IT also may lead to man inhabiting mars.
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Agreed, with Tosh gone our recruiting quality will go up, thus leaving Cal swimming in talent, enabling Tedford to coast in his job
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You might even say...
…the Bears would be Cruzin.
I’d say it at least
"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"
by CruzinBears on Jan 26, 2012 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
Can you say awkward?
Shaq Thompson now plans to sign on Signing Day, #Cal & #Washington HV tonight, #Oregon Friday, #UCLA was in Wednesday
Hopefully we’re not all there at the same time or there might be some business.
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by Lynch's Golf Cart on Jan 26, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
“Come at me, bro!”
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by crazedfan on Jan 26, 2012 10:43 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Business? Like show business?
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Yes. Tedford, Pendergast, and Ambrose are going to re-enact the beginning of Westside Story with Tosh, Sark, and Wilcox.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Well, we know which one are the Sharks.
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It’s the Sarks vs. the Jeffs.
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by CalBear81 on Jan 26, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
nice
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Tosh will be singing Maria to Sark and Tedford/Pendergast/Ambrose are gonna walk up snapping their fingers in rhythm and start a knife fight?
Eeeexcellent
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by EchoOfSilence on Jan 26, 2012 10:47 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Nah, Tosh is singing the lead in "Officer Krupke"
He became depraved on account of his being deprived…
“Deep down inside him, he’s no good…”
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by Auricursine on Jan 26, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
Good to know
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anyone know who goes first? If it’s Tedford, he should bring a baby seal, and leave it w/ Shaq. That way, the enticing seal w/ its dough eyes can bring out Sark’s true EVIL side. He’ll grow a goatee on the spot.
Sark clubbing a seal in front of a recruit = automatic Cal win.
by stevvy89 on Jan 26, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
we go in after Sark, i think.
no bear, no care
by EchoOfSilence on Jan 26, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
Sloppy seconds=#dominoes?
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Ice Cube said it best:
Picked up the Shaq commit
Then we played bones, and I’m yellin domino
Plus nobody I know committed to South Central L.A.
Today was a good day
Send Tosh and Sark to the boneyard
But did he have to use the AK?
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by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 26, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Sark did on a few seals but not Tedford
by SDBear on Jan 26, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Probably already posted somewhere, but . . .
JetLife_Brandon Brandon Beaver
Just got done talking to Coach Amberose…#CalGang braduh
10 hours ago
by Lynch's Golf Cart on Jan 26, 2012 9:32 AM PST reply actions
Beaver would be an especially sweet pull
Since UW thinks they have him already. I would LOVE to see us take one of their coveted guys, especially at a position of need.
I am THE DOOMBRINGER. We Are Cal.
And this one . . . we are in contention at least
JetLife_Brandon Brandon Beaver
“@ItsChrisHarper: @JetLife_Brandon new twitter name: @AlwaysCalReppin @CalBoyBrandon lolllll” haha I might after.next wensday
21 minutes ago
Ok, enough of that. What am I, his twitter feed? haha
by Lynch's Golf Cart on Jan 26, 2012 9:40 AM PST up reply actions
I thought you were a golf cart
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BTW, Lynch ghostrode an equipment cart, not a golf cart. You can’t actually ghostride a golf cart, bc you need to apply consistent pressure on the gas pedal for it to go. You can trust me on this.
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You're right
Originally I thought it was the injury cart, though, so I used ‘golf cart’ because it would’ve made it sound like Beast Mode was being carted off the field.
by Lynch's Golf Cart on Jan 26, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
I thought it was an equipment cart, not an injury cart? maybe they are one and the same!
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You can ghostride a golf cart down hill if you put it in neutral
6 1st round draft picks, 2 Super Bowl Champions and counting
by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
The golf carts I was using didn’t have a neutral function that I could find.
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Wow when did that happen? Clearly it was at the old Cowboys stadium
but was that during an NFL game?
Some high school game that was held in Cowboys stadium.
Feels bad, man.
by Swamphunter on Jan 26, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
I cant stop watching this
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Here’s hoping Texas doesn’t have tort reform! Eh, who am I kidding?
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Not Pictured: T.O. rigging the accelerator to stick
by Lynch's Golf Cart on Jan 26, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
Might be greatest gif of all time
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
definitely a contender for the title
by Haastile Takeover on Jan 26, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Not sure...
…..I watched the bear cub vs. lion cub more.
I like the blue shirt sliding off right at the end. Splat
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by Fire Starkey on Jan 27, 2012 9:29 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks for the update
This class is clearly great. A couple more talented players? Sure that would even better. But I think this class will end up being extra special due to the stressful situation they have endured in the last week. Having been forced to decide whether or not they want to actually be a part of Tosh’s underlying Cal family message or if all they want is a glitzy show.
Well done to those that have re-affirmed their commitment to their class and the Cal family, I look forward to seeing how it gets rounded out.
by CountDuku on Jan 26, 2012 9:37 AM PST reply actions 5 recs
I have to agree with this
I think the adversity, in the end, will make Calgang 2012 stronger and bring them all together.
I completely agree
this class will still be great, plus we got a lot of talented OL that we really needed.
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by CopyBear on Jan 26, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
It doesn’t have a couple of guys like Coleman or Coprich, but it’s pretty up-to-date. MBC has done a great job w/it.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
Is it pretty much a foregone conclusion that Aziz Shittu is going to ’Furd? Do we still have a chance?
Not really
WILLIAMSBURG, Va. — In April, Aziz Shittu was convinced Stanford was the place for him. He committed on the spot.
Two months later, with every major national power chasing the Sporting News Top 125 defensive tackle, there were some doubts and he withdrew his commitment. The Cardinal are still high on the list, but they haven’t been a frontrunner for a long time, the consensus five-star prospect told Sporting News at the FBU-Top Gun Camp in Williamsburg, Va.
When asked what other schools could be considered as favorites along with Stanford, the California native didn’t hesitate: Cal, UCLA, USC, Washington, Texas A&M and Michigan were rattled off in that order.
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Before this Tosh business went down, Gorcey was fairly certain Shittu was going to Cal. I think Tosh leaving took us out of the lead, but I think we still have a shot.
by Mallrat92204 on Jan 26, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
Yah it definitely seemed like we were going to grab McCarthy, Armstead AND Shittu if To$h stayed….that would have been insane
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
Tosh was the main attraction for Shittu
i don’t think we land him now.
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Todd Howard!!
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
Big props to Avery Sebastian for being on point and keeping Calgang together
This guy is leader material and I look forward to more big things to come from this guy.
by freshfunk on Jan 26, 2012 10:27 AM PST reply actions 5 recs
Beaver would be a great pull
We need some DBs after missing out on a couple… although I’d be lying if I said a part of me didn’t want to see him in an Oregon State uniform…
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yeah, but so will Beaver!!
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by EchoOfSilence on Jan 26, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions
heaaaadder!
Tony Gonzalez? University of California?
by ikoolykedat on Jan 26, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
i don't think it'll happen
but he’s making a visit, which says there’s some interest.
plus, Avery Sebastian will be all over him since they’re both from Georgia. And who knows what kind of influence Kourtzidis has, or whether they flip together.
i don’t think we flip Eligwe, but i wouldn’t absolutely shock me if we did. clear as mud, right?
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What’s the latest with Kourtzidis, anyway? I haven’t heard him in connection w/Cal recently, and last I heard he was visiting Texas… Are we still in the picture?
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
he cancelled his Texas visit
i’ve heard he’s 50/50 Cal/FSU.
no real sense of where he actually signs though. the fact that he had a good visit to Tallahassee two weeks ago didn’t help.
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Man, we could really use a TE like him. I hope academics and staying close to home win out for him in the end.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Yes we could really use a TE or two or three
What is up with Wark? Was he injured again last season? I thought we would see more of him, especially as a blocker but I do not recall seeing him on the field much, if at all last season.
Especially with the rumored loss of Ladner. Need more big bodies! Although I’d also like us to use TEs as receivers more next season
Tony Gonzalez? University of California?
by ikoolykedat on Jan 26, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
What the rumor?
But now I hate UDub more.
Rumor was that Ladner may not be returning to the team (this came after this Holiday Bowl suspension)
Again—I want to emphasize that it was a rumor.
Tony Gonzalez? University of California?
by ikoolykedat on Jan 26, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
I'm torn.
I’d like to run a strong pro-style set with tight ends that emphasizes a power running game…but we have so many WR’s potentially coming in.
You can power run game out of 3 WR sets!
by Missing Barry on Jan 26, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
I believe the “power” run game really just refers to pulling offensive linemen. We definitely used to run power sets with 3 WR’s (think Makonnen/McArthur/Lyman or Jackson/Jordan/Hawkins), and you still have a TE or FB in there, too.
by Missing Barry on Jan 26, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
I believe you can do some power run sets that involve 3 WR, but you’d be missing a TE or a FB. A “standard” power run would normally be a 2 TE set. You could also go TE/FB or 2 TE with a FB and just go 1 WR, saying “I’m gonna fucking run this and you won’t be able to stop me.”
It’s a bit hard to consider a 3WR set a power run game, as your running game is dictated by spreading their defense thin with your wide receivers instead of just having more men in the box and pushing your way through.
That’s my interpretation, at least.
Just as a note, the reason I was thinking this in the first place was I really don’t think we have the depth in the offensive line to be a super pass-heavy team. It’s much harder for the linemen to pass protect than run protect, as the first requires they keep a bull rusher at bay for as long as possible while the other requires they go knock people down (obviously simplified). I think we’re most likely much better off knocking people down and running the ball, giving Maynard an easier time throwing the ball, until our young talents develop.
Nah, power running isn’t about the number of FB’s/TE’s, it’s the general scheme of pulling a backside lineman to the playside.
by Missing Barry on Jan 26, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
and the assignment of blocking
in ‘zone’ blocking you are less about pushing the guy where you want but letting him pursue himself to a place where you create a cutback lane.
‘power or man’ blocking is about pushing your guy out of the way.
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by Rocksanddirt on Jan 26, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
Either way, both man and zone blocking schemes can be adapted to different personnel sets/alignments.
“Power running” isn’t really a scheme so much as a kind of nebulous idea. There’s the “power” play, but that’s just one (completely and thoroughly ubiquitous) play out of many.
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It was fantastic."
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It would be awesome to have 2 terrific blocking and receiving TEs, 49er style
by Mallrat92204 on Jan 26, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
Who's next in line?
We probably have more uncertainty at TE than any other position. We’ve been using mostly 1 TE sets, even though historically Tedford likes 2 TE’s just as much. Miller been the starter for 3 years, with no clear 2nd stringer. We had Tad Smith, then Spencer Ladner, then walk-on Hagan. Are any of these guys ready for the starting job? How about the freshman, Rodgers or Wark?
But now I hate UDub more.
So hopefully Wark can stay healthy
Wow, we are really thin at TE.
yeah
Wark gave us some good snaps near the end of the season, but we’re hurting with depth all of a sudden.
Kourt would be great.
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Beyond Kourt, do we have any other potential TE's coming in?
Obviously we lost out on McNamara but any other kids we might be able to get?
Even if we do get Kourt our TE’s will still be a potential issue since most of them are young and don’t have much experience.
Nope.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, that is unfortunate
We are really neglecting that position.
Hagan seems to fill that undersized receiving TE who converted from WR role well enough…
by Missing Barry on Jan 26, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
I think he's trapped in cartoon world!

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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Walk-on converted QB Ben Miroglio from Jesuit may hold some promise too
by solarise on Jan 26, 2012 5:11 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
BOOOOOOO JESUIT
/went to the public school across the street
//fucking rich kids
///can’t hate on the rugby pipeline though
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by CruzinBears on Jan 26, 2012 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for the update.
Not sure if it’s been mentioned yet, but I think you missed Drew unless something happened with him recently. Seemed like he was pretty solid though.
by LouisMurphy'sLaw on Jan 26, 2012 12:07 PM PST reply actions
there's a quick note about Drew at the very top
he just actually “officially” committed to Cal earlier this week, so i didn’t think that really needed to be re-hashed. his commitment post is linked at the top.
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Also MBC, how do you decide if someone is a "solid" or "possibly wavering"?
Just this week Avi put up tweets by both Dozier and Walker saying that they had further firmed up their committment to Cal, which I would think would put them in the “solid” category.
I suppose it is just a judgement call by you or perhaps you have a bit more inside information than we do.
Dozier I completely because he has decided to take an official to UW and they are recruiting him heavily now.
Walker and Dozier
the news about them visiting Washington this weekend surfaced after the tweets about them being solid. Despite the tweets, i consider a visit as a sign that a guy is looking around. hence, wavering vs solid.
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No that makes sense to me
I hope they both decide to come on down to Cal.
i think they both will in the end
can’t fault either kid for doing his due diligence. i mean, their future position coach left. they have the right to look around.
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Once again, I understand and it is the right thing for them to do
Can’t fault them for that.
I just really hope Dozier sees through the BS from UW and Sark.
RE: Armstead
At this point, if he commits next week or even after that, what are the chances he can still enroll early? This is the second week of class already.
i think
he could still enroll early if he commits and starts classes next week.
but damn, he’d be behind already.
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Sure we would love Foster but I believe we have plenty of TB depth
I would even say we have a logjam of TB’s right now.
Sure Triggs and Yarnway have been injury prone but we still Isi, CJA, CDJ, Lasco, Manuel, Bigelow, and I believe another back or two that I am forgetting.
We lose Isi, CJA, and CDJ to graduation after next season but we have a lot of young backs on the roster right now so not getting one in this cycle will not kill us. However, we will need to get a couple next season.
Ervin's been a running back since he stepped foot on campus.
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Actually, I think Isi, CJA, CDJ and Manuel will be seniors next year, leaving us with Bigelow, Lasco, Ervin, Yarnway and Briggs in 2013.
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Isi = Senior
CJA = Senior (right?)
CDJ = Junior
Manuel = Junior
Yarnway and Briggs will both be upperclassmen, if they can get healthy.
Lasco and Ervin are either RS Fr or Sophomores I believe. Bigelow will be a Sophomore. Things are going to open up considerably at RB in a year or two.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, so that means our top FOUR RBs are going to be seniors next year? That really opens things up in a year.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
Yep, it is like our depth chart is both top and bottom heavy with little in the middle. Too bad that Manuel will be a senior next season.
Right now I am not expecting Yarnway or Triggs to ever significantly contribute. I hope they prove me wrong but it seems like they just can’t stay healthy enough.
Hopefully we can start to work in a young back or two this season to start preparing them for 2013.
Although Isi was able to step in and carry the load after not getting very many carries his first two seasons and we still have Gould so I am optimistic that one of the young guys should be able to step in and play well.
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I’m excited about Bigelow, and it would be epic to have him and Foster both on the same team and taking a bunch of snaps in say, 2013-2014 :)
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
The good news is really good RB’s can generally step right in and contribute right away. Having opening for PT means the team should easily attract a top talent. I’m not worried.
by Missing Barry on Jan 26, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
If Cal has one position I never worry over it is RB.
I might have some concern over the RB position from time to time but I never worry about it.
This
Cal’s RB’s have been so good for so long, I take it for granted. I have this sense that there’s an overabundance of good RB’s out there, and that they’re easily replaceable. It’s not the case, but we’ve been so good at that position for so long, it’s very misleading.
Put another way, I’ve never experienced running back envy vis-a-vis other Pac-10/12 teams. Can’t say the same for other positions…
But now I hate UDub more.
I tend to think RBs are a dime a dozen. It’s all about the beef up front IMO.
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
How is it then, that the last 4 backs to be featured at Cal are all on the rosters of teams that play on Sundays? (Vereen, Best, Forsett and Lynch?) Do you think those guys are “dime a dozen”?
Oh I definitely think they are talented and make up for lack of beef, I’m just arguing if you have a dominant OL you can stick anyone back there and they will do well. See Priest Holmes on the 2003 Chiefs
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
But Priest Holmes had good vision, speed, and ball security. he was at another level. Was he a prototypical running back? No. But he fit the position well, it’s hard to say what he did was only because of his offensive line. I think he could’ve been what Jahvid Best was for Cal for other NFL teams with worse o-lines.
No way, Priest played behind 3 Hall of Famers (Roaf, Shields and Waters). I think I could have averaged 4 yards a pop behind those man beasts
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Right. My point is that I think Priest could have been good anywhere, even if he was great in KC due to the line.
I suppose you may be right, tough to tell. Crazy to think he didn’t even start in college because he was behind Sticky Ricky at Texas
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
Rumor is he’s going to be kept around next year. I was really hoping to dump his ass for a bag of marbles and keep Orton. We’re so screwed, which is sad because the rest of our team is solid
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
Because of Cassel!
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Jan 26, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I hope we see a healthy helping of Bigelow and Lasco this year, but with all the other backs in front of them, it might be tough. It’s also hard because the few times we did use Bigelow this year it was so obvious that when he came into the game, the play was going to be to him. With only spot duty by some of these backs, we give away too much of our play-calling.
I expect to see more Bigelow next year. If not, I’m going to lower my expectations of his talent level. By next year he should be ready to go 100%, and he provides something unique nobody else does, so if he’s not getting on the field a bunch, I gotta conclude he’s really not as good as we thought he’d be.
by Missing Barry on Jan 26, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
Well
He’d been out of football for a year and a half, right? It takes time to work your way back from something like that. I think being able to practice and play last year will really help get him back up to full speed again. I think he’ll open some eyes this fall :)
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
Right, I agree. Like I said, I expect to see him have a more substantial role next season. But if he doesn’t, I think it’s an indicator that he’s not as good as we hoped.
by Missing Barry on Jan 26, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
Sure, but you could say that about anyone who doesn’t crack the starting rotation or get significant PT :)
In this case though, we have pretty high hopes based on his HS film.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
Eh, depends on the depth and talent ahead of everyone. Like I said, Bigelow provides something unique compared to all of our other backs, if he’s as good as his HS film, he should get PT. If he isn’t getting PT, he probably isn’t as good as people thought from his film. If Jahvid were on the team, it would be different, though, because then he wouldn’t provide anything unique.
by Missing Barry on Jan 26, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
man that's my favorite Cal commercial
They should show that one more often. And keep Lupoi in it, just for fun.
by ucsdgoldenbear on Jan 26, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
DOOOOOOOOM
DeCoud?
(Tosh is also at ~ :15)
by Lynch's Golf Cart on Jan 26, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for the post MBC
After the Tosh episode, I didn’t see you much. I concluded that you were either Tosh’s alter ego or that you got a boat and headed to UW.
i needed some MBC time
i couldn’t afford to let the bitterness and disillusionment of Cal internet sites take hold of me, so i had to step away.
after four days of heavy drinking, hurting small animals and sleeping in my oven…i’m starting to feel normal again
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hurting small animals
Not baby seals, I hope! Because then you’ve let Sark win.
…or so I hear.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
negative
being in a landlocked state, seals would have been hard to come by.
no, i stuck to maiming squirrels and baby raccoons for the most part. and i kidneypunched a baby deer.
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You shot Bambi’s mother didn’t you.
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Why would you abhor guns?
You a commie liberal?
No guns? Bare hand animal cruelty? Has Sark been recruiting you to go north?? Will CGB retain MBC’s commitment on NSD?!
no, quite the contrary
i just like hurting things with my hands more.
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Thanks, MBC
I know it can’t be easy keeping track of all the new whispers, rumors, and generalized freak-outs.
It’s really nice to have everything well-organized. Much appreciated!
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Great Job MBC…..see at the insane asylum otherwise known as “Growls”….you do a good job keeping up with this stuff.
MBC, last question: Who do you see us potentially signing that are maybe not on the “top flight” list? Say we don’t land a couple of the marquee guys, who do you see potentially filling up some spots further down the list?
well, time is short to make inroads
what with NSD on Tuesday. a lot would have to happen to swing guys at this juncture. keep that in mind.
a couple possibles:
CB Raymond Ford
DB Dalis Bruce
WR Kenny Lawler
OT David Keller
OT Gavin Andrews
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Thought Gavin verbaled to OSU? Is there still interest?
by solarise on Jan 26, 2012 5:06 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Also I thought Keller was firm to Fresno State?
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 5:19 PM PST up reply actions
Latest word is....
Shaq is going to trip to UCLA after NSD as well. I wonder what he is thinking? Sounds like he really has no idea what to do. I feel like the more scattered it gets, the more likely he will want to just come back to us as the familiar face/place.
per Joe Davidson of the Sac Bee
that visit only happens if Shaq doesn’t feel like Oregon, Washington, or Cal are the right school. all three have in home visits today (UW and Cal) or tomorrow (Oregon).
seems he will probably commit and sign his LOI on NSD. I think the UCLA thing might be smoke.
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MCB, quick recruiting question
If school X has 25 slots available and it believes it is going to get 25 recruits on NOI day but a surprise happens and a recruit or two decide at the 12th hour to go to school Y what does school X do with those two remaining slots?
Do they go after other kids that were on their radar and haven’t committed to a single school yet? Do they go after JC kids? Or do they save those two slots for the following recruiting cycle to fill?
typically school X would just wait till the next recruiting cycle and then backfill the spots with more commits or some early entrants.
its an imperfect science when you’re dealing with the whims of 17 and 18 year old boys of course.
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Okay that is what I thought.
What happens to all the kids that committ to a school and then the school drops them at the last minute? Isn’t this a common practice for SEC schools? Do these kids end up at another school playing ball or are they basically SOL? Couldn’t another school still recruit them and try to get them to sign after LOI?
well if a kid gets dumped by a school due to oversigning, they are essentially released from their LOI and free to sign wherever they choose.
NSD isn’t the deadline to sign an LOI, it’s actually the first day to sign. The window is open beyond then so the kid can essentially continue his recruitment.
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MoragaBear on Coach Howard - PUMP PUMP PUMP
Howard as coach and recruiter
Talked to a UCLA insider very up on the program and their recruiting over the years.
He was very clear that Howard was an especially effective coach at UCLA and at WSU. He said Davis and Hickman were pretty lightly-regarded and made immediate major improvements in effectiveness. He’s especially strong in technique and leverage.
He said he was also very instrumental in bringing in Price, Owa, Willis and Marsh -much moreso than Neuheisel, who gladly took credit.
I have no doubt he can be a very effective recruiter if he’s willing to get out there early in the process and bust his butt. He seems to really like the challenge of recruiting and to me, seems to be a perfect blend of toughness, intensity, humor and relatability.
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by ikoolykedat on Jan 26, 2012 2:41 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
In other news,
LSU just underwent stadium renovations too:

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by EchoOfSilence on Jan 26, 2012 2:52 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
ha
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
And they will still have to settle for FG's.
by SDBear on Jan 26, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
sigh
I wonder if this will make Murphy go somewhere else?
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
I really like all the OL we are pulling in but
how is furd bringing in all this OL talent and why can’t we seem to get some of these highly rated OL guys that the furd seems to be attracting?
My bet is he goes to SC now.
Furd making two OL potential top 15 draft picks this year couldn’t have hurt.
by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 26, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
It's amazing to me that
Washington cannot lock up prospects in its backyard.
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Not enough boats to lock them up in.
by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 26, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
Not enough Jumbacos either
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by atomsareenough on Jan 26, 2012 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
Let’s hope it remains that way. So far it seems like they got one top OL prospect from UW to stay and I hope that is all they get.
i don't think Banner is locked up by any means
SC could be the team to beat
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You mean, just like us?
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by EchoOfSilence on Jan 26, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
Just spoke with a coach at Pleasant Grove, Armstead is undecided/hush-hush and waiting on his brother.
Same source, less inside re: Shaq “is done with Cal. No chance…”
Again, he is more inside with the Armstead situation than with Shaq, so I don’t put all that much stock in what he said.
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Your source is wrong
Shaq is not done with Cal. Tedford is visiting him tonight.
by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 26, 2012 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not debating you.
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Shaq Thompson’s final recruiting days come down to home visits tonight, tomorrow with Cal, Washington, Oregon – SacBee
I know it's a dead horse
but this gets me everytime
On Jan. 15, Cal coach Jeff Tedford and Lupoi made a home visit with Pleasant Grove All-American lineman Arik Armstead in their Elk Grove home, some 35 minutes away from the Thompson home.
Using different cars, Tedford headed back to the Bay Area, finished with his Sacramento-area recruiting tour for the evening. Lupoi headed to the Thompson home in North Sacramento any way.
In his visit with Thompson, in Cal colors, Lupoi spoke of how he could become the Washington Huskies assistant within a day, and by dawn the next morning, Lupoi was off to Washington.
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Possible nicknames for next years recruiting class?
calposse
calcrew
calavengers
calhommies
calmob
calbandofbrothers
calhorde
calpack
calsyndicate
calclique
calcoalition
calfirm
caloutfit
hahahahah
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no bear, no care
by EchoOfSilence on Jan 26, 2012 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
MUST NOT TEMPT JUJU!
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by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 26, 2012 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
Seems like it should just be #calgang from here on out to refer to everyone. Makes it feel like one whole family.
That said, it would be cool to have other names to differentiate classes so they have a smaller group to rep, too. (e.g. #calgang #hitsquad, #calgang #thunderteam, etc.)
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