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sigh ... i was enjoying the schadenfreude

we’re back to being the only team with major “doom.”

by ocbear on Jan 23, 2012 12:40 AM PST reply actions  

SADNESS NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!1!

"The Bear will not quit, the Bear will not die." -Joe Kapp

by Whohah on Jan 23, 2012 9:04 AM PST up reply actions  

What a crazy night for Oregon and their fans

I wonder why Chip had his change of heart.

by SDBear on Jan 23, 2012 12:40 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Could have been money I suppose

I still think Tampa could have matched anything Oregon offered, maybe Chip just got cold feet with the thought of going to the NFL.

by SDBear on Jan 23, 2012 12:46 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

or it's a negotiating ploy with tampa

to get more control, or money, or something.

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Jan 23, 2012 12:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I suppose it won’t be over until Chip does a press conference.

by SDBear on Jan 23, 2012 12:49 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Or he wanted to stay at Oregon all along

But was using the Tampa Bay offer to get a raise.

"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded

by atomsareenough on Jan 23, 2012 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

You’re forgetting boosters, which would mean Uncle Phil, which means he can double, triple, quadruple whatever Chip’s getting from TB.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 23, 2012 12:51 AM PST up reply actions  

It would be insane if Chip was pulling down 10 million a year as the HC at Oregon.

I’m not saying it couldn’t happen, just that it would be ridiculous.

by SDBear on Jan 23, 2012 12:55 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I went into the wrong profession, I should have been a CFB coach

Where even being and average coach will get you a 500k contract at UW.

by SDBear on Jan 23, 2012 1:05 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Ya know, maybe not

$10 mil for a coach that gets to BCS bowls almost every year (let’s say 4 out of 5 despite that not being the case currently, where he’s at 100% now). what is the value of the marketing there? of the merchandise? UofO has already seen record enrollment and massive alumni donations in the last few years that are almost entirely because of the football program. How much is that worth?

Is it worth $10 million?

I could see a very reasonable answer yes to that.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 23, 2012 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re forgetting boosters, which would mean Uncle Phil..

Of course Knight could afford to pay anyone just about anything but isn’t all ‘booster’ money included in a coach’s listed salary, at least at public schools? This keeps floating around with all the new hires as if there are common off book payments that inflate the listed salaries? I know that most of all the salary comes from private sources but isn’t the total released by the school the actual total?

by OskiGoDumb on Jan 23, 2012 1:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes

Contracts are public information and any extra payments would be in them and noted. Secret hidden deals would be illegal.

Nick Saban contract as an example

You can see in the contract how he is required to itemize all the income he makes each year because of football.(endorsements or other payouts) That info would be part of the salary charts that places like USA Today put out.

by Vegasexpat on Jan 23, 2012 1:36 AM PST up reply actions  

This is only true for public school.

by LEastCoastBears on Jan 23, 2012 1:36 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah, that’s why SC and Stanford never show up in USA Today salary reports, or any of those Athletic Department profit / deficit pieces.

by OskiGoDumb on Jan 23, 2012 2:13 AM PST up reply actions  

cacapoopoopeepeeshire

Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!

by GoldBlooded on Jan 23, 2012 1:12 AM PST reply actions  

About pre-LOI coaching changes...

Presuming Oregon offered Kelly more money to stay I wonder how much more they the timing costs them? I think he was scheduled to make ~$3.5M next season. If they upped that to $4.5 or $5M, would they have paid that in December? Two weeks ago? If an assistant like Tosh can upend a recruiting class by leaving in mid January you’ve got to think losing Kelly and probably a decent chunk of the staff would have decimated Oregon’s class a week out from LOI day. An attractive new hire would have the school over a barrel, too. Could schools consider adding steeply escalating buyouts to contracts for January departures?

by OskiGoDumb on Jan 23, 2012 1:53 AM PST reply actions  

Kelly had a $3.5m dollar buyout on his contract

No expected him to get offered $7m per year, so that buy out may increase even more

by ppilot on Jan 23, 2012 1:55 AM PST up reply actions  

It's still all from "sources"

both sides of this story.
We won’t know til Chip makes a real statement. It’s reported he didn’t show for scheduled recruit visits today.

But if he does leave, I would bet that Cal and UW, maybe even USC and UCLA would be bigtime beneficaries of some good recruits de-commiting from the Oregon class.

by Regent Denali on Jan 23, 2012 2:07 AM PST reply actions  

right, but that buyout was a flat $3.5M, December 15th, January 2 or today but the blow to your program would have been worse the later it got. There’s obviously no good time for a coach to leave but late January would seem to give a college coach tremendous leverage. Maybe $3M before Jan. 1, $4M between Jan. 1 and 15 and $5M after that? I’m sure there’s some unintended consequence I’m not considering but LOI day seems to make CFB contracts unique.

by OskiGoDumb on Jan 23, 2012 2:07 AM PST reply actions  

You have issues, we have tissues.

FUTBALL IZ SRS BUSINESS GUYZ // ONLY HAVE FUN WHEN ROZ BWL
--Thoroughbred

by sec119 on Jan 23, 2012 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

But only UW fans haz tissue issues?

Old Toothwrangler

by Kodiak on Jan 23, 2012 8:51 AM PST up reply actions  

recruits beware

Chippy won’t be there long and: no chippy offense, no duck domination!

by bearacious on Jan 23, 2012 6:43 AM PST reply actions  

Shogun Assassin rec.

"The Bear will not quit, the Bear will not die." -Joe Kapp

by Whohah on Jan 23, 2012 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

More apt to call it a Liquid Swords reference, but yes.

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Jan 23, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

So much for the rumors of impending sanctions at UO

Or maybe Chip is going to weather the storm instead of running for the cash grab? Either way, good for Oregon.

I’d like to get a couple more shots at beating them with Chip in place, we haven’t been too far off even with their emergence as a national power.

And ATQ handled this pretty well, considering. Seems to be much more fun to go off the deep end like at CGB, but that is just one Middle-Aged-Blue’s assessment.

Middle-aged toothwrangler (HT: Kodiak)

by 1988goldenbear on Jan 23, 2012 8:14 AM PST reply actions  

Is everyone there prescribed to Lithium? Our site would’ve crashed with news like that.

by mrjpark on Jan 23, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

It nearly did

a new thread had to be started because the first one was getting slowed up by too many comments

by DareDuck on Jan 23, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, they live in Oregon, so: yes.

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Jan 23, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

As the saying goes:

We smoked it all.

"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 23, 2012 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

We had the Suffering

After that, losing the most successful coach in school history after we won the rose bowl for the first time in 95 years? It’s not so bad. Kinda tickles.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 23, 2012 10:38 PM PST up reply actions  

There's one thing I dont hear often from opposing fans about us at ATQ

I was astounded at the number of comments in such a short period of time. More than 2000 comments in just a few hours, thats something more seen here than atq. However, now that he’s staying, we can all go back to how Cal got screwed over by the fuskies and talk about our mutual hatred from them

by DareDuck on Jan 23, 2012 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, there were several Cal folks hanging out, and we do like to flap our gums…

"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded

by atomsareenough on Jan 23, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmm?

Might have been true a couple years ago, but we’ll fill up a thread pretty quickly nowadays.

"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 23, 2012 5:10 PM PST up reply actions  

dont know!!

i should be sad he didn’t leave oregon…
but i feel suddenly warm towards anyone with a shred of loyalty..

get off me bandwagoners!
Clean Cut Media

by cleancutmedia on Jan 23, 2012 9:09 AM PST reply actions  

Can you be loyal to money?

I KID, Duck brothas, I KID

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 23, 2012 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

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