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Breaking: Eric Kiesau Reportedly Joining Washington Huskies

Let the pillaging and plundering continue: multiple independent sources are reporting that Kiesau has joined the UW staff.

Greg Biggins:

Hearing it's a done deal, Eric Kiesau will be new WR coach at , another big hire

Gorcey:

Source: Kiesau on his way to Seattle right now. Will be announced before the end of the week.

As always, keep an eye on CGB for further developments. We're hearing rumors that UW will continue its poaching spree by bringing in Tedford and Oski while renaming the SAHPC the Sarkisian-Acquired Husky Performance Center. They have also expressed interest in purchasing Evans Hall.

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The title makes this sound a little too official.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 11:36 AM PST reply actions  

I modified it slightly to reflect the unofficial nature of the reports. I’ll adjust accordingly when UW makes an announcement.

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by Berkelium97 on Jan 17, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Evans Hall

is an eyesore, I’d prefer is they take that from us.

by ShajBear13 on Jan 17, 2012 11:37 AM PST reply actions  

let them. spent way too much time in that dungeon.

by j.lee on Jan 17, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

both my majors were in there

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Not before

Wurster.

UW will probably take VLSB and then the Doe Library.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

just leave cv starr out of this!!!

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd be worth it if they take Evans

Otherwise I’m just sad.

Sing glorious, victorious!

by Calfan on Jan 17, 2012 11:37 AM PST reply actions  

I assume that’s Sandy Barbour’s house being burned to the ground.

by harmonpreservationsociety on Jan 17, 2012 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

do you know something that we don’t?

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

As a history major, auto rec’ed!

by Flag Guy on Jan 17, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

what the actual fck?

how does this possibly continue to get worse?

someone lock Gould in his house right now.

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by nativeson on Jan 17, 2012 11:41 AM PST reply actions  

A literal turn for the Ohio.

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by DC Trojan on Jan 17, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s always worse when Ohio is involved.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

i can potentially make it even worse =(

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by nativeson on Jan 17, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Ugh.

I have no doubt that Bryce is still solid and will play in a Cal uniform, but his reaction is still so ugh.

by Reef on Jan 17, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Amen to that, brother!

Give Ron Gould whatever he wants immediately! By the way, I live really far from Berkeley and I can’t make it to many games, but I WILL be going to the Washington game.
Hucking Fuskies!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Suck on dese nuts TexAss!!!

by bearblueballz on Jan 17, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

RGBearTerritory Ryan Gorcey
Source: Kiesau on his way to Seattle right now. Will be announced before the end of the week.

Aaaaand there we have it.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 11:43 AM PST reply actions  

To mix my metaphors a bit, it’s almost like the Huskies laid an elaborate trap, cleverly let us entangle ourselves, and are now pulling the rug from under us. I just want to spit in Sarkisian’s smug, fat little face.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Can they take Genyk too?

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 17, 2012 11:43 AM PST reply actions  

lol

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Genyk is actually the highest paid of the assitants.

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by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

No, he’s the lowest paid of the coordinators (after Michalczik and Pendergast, not necessarily in that order).

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by FiatSlug on Jan 17, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

oh special teams, right.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Gould to Oregon with Tedford.
Genyk and M to WSU.
all of players have vanished.
woe is cal.

The Rose Bowl is too mainstream anyway.

by KeenanAllenFett on Jan 17, 2012 11:46 AM PST reply actions  

This is like a Cal Haiku.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Cal disappoints me
You’re supposed to keep your coaches
lossington sucks ass

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by Old Ducker on Jan 17, 2012 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Quietly they leave
Fans lament and hope for Best
What will happen next

by OskiBear on Jan 17, 2012 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow. I know I said I didn't want to read CGB for a while but I am attracted to disaster

How the fuck is this possible!? We went from such high euphoria barely a week ago to the absolute nadir of the Tedford era.

Well we were never meant to go to the Rose Bowl.

I also now hate UW more than any thing in the world. I’ll root for Stanford (yes spelled correctly) over the Fuskies.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 11:48 AM PST reply actions  

We went from such high euphoria barely a week ago to the absolute nadir of the Tedford era.

Well we were never meant to go to the Rose Bowl.

Roy, it’s okay, take a deep cleansing breath. It’s not that bad. There are still plenty of Cal commits for next year, and 2012 probably wasn’t the season for a Rose Bowl run anyway.

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by DC Trojan on Jan 17, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea but half of those commits were WR who we desperately needed. And the chances of them sticking around now that Keiasu is gone? Ugh.

And the DL commits? Whoops

And Shaq Thompson? Yikes.

Yea we’re screwed

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Nadir != coaching changes 8 months before a game is played.

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

But it is when the two people essential to your entire recruiting class up and leave before you get those LOI. Tosh was supposed to coach these linemen and Keiasu was supposed to coach these wide receivers. They chose Cal because these two coaches were proven assets that were young enough to relate with them. While there is much more to choosing your college than one or two coaches, these one or two coaches were going to be the biggest impact on these kids’ lives and careers. I wouldn’t be surprised if our class just went to hell. We’ll keep Kline and the few Bears that were completely committed, but I don’t really have much hope for the 4 and 5 stars that joined the CalGang basically to ride the waves with their friends.

And while I partially agree with you, zoonews, about the general lack of faith being meh, but I can’t really keep my head up right now when we have a coach who hasn’t been able to win a ton of games (not entirely his fault), a great defensive coordinator no one expects to stay, and we just lost our two young position coaches who had a ton of talent and potential. Oh yeah, and a lot of recruits have lost their fire for Cal now that they have no idea who’s going to be coaching them.

We HAVE to make some really good hires in this next week or so. If we don’t have these positions filled by the signing date, I think our recruiting class drops from 9 to about 20ish. Which isn’t a complete nightmare, but isn’t the level of class we need to make that push for a Rose Bowl.

by mrjpark on Jan 17, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

THIS

And it’ll be worse than 20ish. We won’t break the top 25 and we’ll be middling in the middle of the Pac.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

So business as usual, yay!

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 17, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel so much more comfortable now!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

UW's goal...

…wasn’t their projected recruiting class ranked in the mid-40s prior to this going down?

Perhaps this is what they had in mind all along…

It’s just staggering that, given cuts in higher education, that the state of Washington has 1.2 million dollars to throw at 2 coaches.

There’s no way that UC can justify this much money in such an economy, not when we got the Regents gearing up for more cuts. I know that a chunk of this money comes from outside donations to the program, but from the outside, it nevertheless looks terrible in terms of the example it sets for the university’s supposed educational priorities.

My wife kept stressing to me last night: Cal without Lupoi is still THE University of California. Our Nobels didn’t disappear, our academic reputation, or even our element. Just an assistant coach, who is the flavor of the month right now, until he gets too old to relate to the kids he’s recruiting (likely to happen sooner, rather than later).

OTOH, Washington likely needs the boost to their ego by a good football team, since the university might not offer anything else…

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by Auricursine on Jan 17, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

UW isn’t a bad school, as much as I would love to give it shit. It’s no Cal, but it has some good grad programs and it’s definitely not Oregon or ASU.

by mrjpark on Jan 17, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

As a husky

when you get rejected by Cal, you go to UW

by TKM399 on Jan 17, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

come on, dude.

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

No. You go to Ucla. Or at the very worst, USC.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 17, 2012 5:13 PM PST up reply actions  

or heaven forbid, cal state…

by j.lee on Jan 17, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Last time I looked

washington was only ranked about a dozen spots ahead of Oregon. That may change with the firing of Oregon’s president last month, and not in a good way.

Just about all colleges and universities better get ready for a lot of adversity as the slow developing global financial meltdown continues. I think many will go bankrupt and disappear. The states schools such as Cal will probably downsize in enrollment and quality.

Sorry to be a debby downer but anyone with three neurons in their forehead should be able to see it coming.

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by Old Ducker on Jan 17, 2012 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

In response to paragraph three...

UW’s athletic department is self sustaining, almost entirely from football revenue. Our coaches aren’t paid for with state money, same with our stadium renovation. It’s all about dedicated alumni, tyee, and strong season ticket sales.

Go Dawgs!

by muddydawg on Jan 17, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

(and having fewer non-revenue sports, compared to Cal).

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Let’s see on the hires. Tedford knows as much as anyone that this is the season everyone is looking at, that there are shiny new seats to sell, … maybe some magic can happen.

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 17, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe he meant 2012-2015, when this year’s recruiting class could have made a huge impact. 2016!

by slaphancock on Jan 17, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

thanks for a level-headed post, zoonews. I think we all have a little Old Blue ingrained in all of us, so that’s where the negativity is coming from.

by the federer express on Jan 17, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

We don’t even know for sure who our own people are any more though.

I mean, yeah we’ll still be Cal and we’ll eventually get past this, but at this point, unless we hire someone amazing in the next few days, this is DEFINITELY a setback, and it’s clearly bad news.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHA WUT
For all we know Price will strain his vagina against Portland State and that’s that.

so awesome

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Really, “get a grip”? So I’m unhinged even though I say:

we’ll still be Cal and we’ll eventually get past this

Are you saying that any negative reaction to bad news is uncalled for? We must only see the bright side?

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

thank you

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough, but why are you directing that to me? I have done precisely none of those things.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry, it came up in the flow of conversation. We see now how it looks like it was directed at you; it wasn’t intended to be.

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 17, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

(it was directed at royrules and we get you 2 confused all the time)

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 17, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

(THESE ARE THE JOKES)

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 17, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Oooh! I get it! I get jokes!

by the federer express on Jan 17, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

pshhhhhhhhhh! :-P

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I never tweeted anyone much less Sandy. I like our current set of players a lot but they’ll be gone soon and we have urgent needs in new stellar recruits.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

True...What's also true however is that...

It’s mathematically speaking….many times more likely that Cal’s AD is the one who would first suffer a strained “vagina”…Price having balls almost the same size as the pigskins he throws…Sorry…practicing some new found defense…(it’s a game after all)

by gliderdawg on Jan 17, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

price’s balls don’t sound healthy. please tell him to consult a doctor.

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

tell him to ask his physician to pull and palpate!

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by CruzinBears on Jan 17, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, sounds like Elephantiasis

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I do not have faith in right now. Sorry

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

The fact that we couldn’t keep around two of the most important people south of Tedford that would’ve helped us get to the Rose Bowl, doesn’t inspire ANY faith

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Symbolic ritual suicide? Who are you talking about?

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The doom lords.

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 17, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe one of them is a doom lord millionaire and can help us fund some coaches.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Alright.

Do we have any volunteers to sell your souls for this doom lord millionaire? Maybe we can get his kid to transfer to Cal, so he can graduate as an alumn and give us more money. Then we can hire Sark as our OC for 1 million, take back Lupoi for 750k a year + incentives, and Keiasu for whatever the fuck he wants.

by mrjpark on Jan 17, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

can i recommend this a million trillion times?

by fiatlux on Jan 17, 2012 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Gosh; why the doom & gloom?

We just lost most of our coaching staff after a .500 year and a loss in a pinball bowl game, have a much less recognized recruiting class so far, and we (Husky fans) are mostly upbeat about the off season.

OK, we poached a couple position coaches; and BTW ucla and Alabama each poached one off of us. It happens in college ball, and if we had poached both your DC and LB coach (as we did from Tenn) then I would think you would have solid grounds for the meltdown.

Tedford hired good guys before, for what reason do you think he won’t go get another couple good guys?

by HuskyInExile on Jan 17, 2012 11:55 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s not just the coaches. It’s the potential for a historically good recruiting class to fall apart, too.

by Missing Barry on Jan 18, 2012 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Nothing that happens as a result of Tosh's actions actually matter.

Even if we keep our entire recruiting class and make Ellis flip and pick up Armstead and then hire the Ravens’ defensive line coach, I’ll still hate Tosh. His actions and complete lack of respect are what infuriated us.

by mrjpark on Jan 18, 2012 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

you seem like you’re always at the nadir… does your nadir have a nadir?

by fiatlux on Jan 17, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

And to make matters worse, UW will probably make a run at Gould

Since they lost their RB coach.

Oh and they’ll probably crush at as Memorial.

Things are looking dire for Tedford.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 11:49 AM PST reply actions  

Man

Seriously, I hope UW goes 0-12 again.

…and fuck all these moneygrubbing backstabbers who are bailing on us.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 11:54 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

i can understand tosh leaving for 3x salary. but the whole recruiting shaq thing is so shady, it sucks.

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

So what happened to Shaq now? Is he still Cal or has he flipped? I’m expecting the worse

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

unknown, but COMPLETELY UNINFORMED SPECULATION i’m expecting him to leave.

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Apparently he’s gone from solid Cal to 50/50 between Cal and UW.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I understand it quite clearly, but there’s no reason on earth for us to have to respect it. There’s no higher principle or anything involved here, so let’s call it what it is. Moneygrubbing. Dolla dolla bill y’all.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Man, I’m going to make sure I negotiate equivalent or worse salary at my next job.

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by DC Trojan on Jan 17, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds promising

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by Berkelium97 on Jan 17, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Excellent, you’re hired.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

My whole point is, if you left your current employers in the lurch at the worst possible time at a job you were evidently well loved at and respected, getting accolades, and lots of people were depending on you, because you got a pay bump, don’t expect plaudits from those people when it comes to your character.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I still don’t agree with the timing objections. This is when the coaching carousel happens. Just play NCAA 12 to see for yourself!

by Missing Barry on Jan 17, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah . . .

but in my version of NCAA 12, Cal wins Rose Bowls and National Championships . . .

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by AndyHogan14 on Jan 17, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I get your point...it's rational.

“but”….excluding feelings here, Tosh didn’t get “a pay bump”…he got a pay increase of 300%! An increased responsiblity/title for resume-career building…He was also rumored to get a boat…which frankly sounds kinda funny if you leave out feelings for a moment..He also was in a no win situation as far as timing is concerned…if he waits till loi day? he’s a traitor to the yound men he lured to Cal…if he waits a year? the job likely isn’t still available…if he takes it with 2 weeks before loi day he’s blasted as a traitor? It’s a business and entertainment sport after all…the wind blows…see; D.Martin to UCLA! Just saying…

by gliderdawg on Jan 17, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, the young men would still ostensibly be at Cal at least. That’s the worst case scenario? If he waits a year? The DC coordinator position at Cal possibly opens up. Who knows. If he wants to leave for money, let’s all be honest that it’s about the money, is all I’m saying. It is a lot of money at least.

BTW, as I pointed out, D. Martin went to UCLA over a month ago.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

That's when UCLA had an opening.

And it was somewhat weak that he left before our bowl game.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 17, 2012 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, unlike us, you had plenty of time to replace him.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 8:28 PM PST up reply actions  

jobs are jobs are jobs. just because sports are involved and there is emotional attachment from fans doesn’t mean that the coaches have that same attachment.

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Clearly not! And that’s fine, but then I don’t see the need toss around phrases like, “he’s still a true Bear” or anything. Fuck that noise.

"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded

by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I sincerely hope Tosh and Kiesau become unmitigated disasters at UW and that they never get hired again. And UW gets hit with a death penalty.

I especially wish the worst (not health wise but job wise) to Tosh.

Bitter? YES

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Yikes, keep in mind Cal had good recruiting classes before Tosh as well. Maybe it’s time to back away from the keyboard?

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

NO

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

OR maybe in a couple years we can hire tosh back as our def coordinator? assuming he hasn’t completely burned all bridges.

whose domicile? our domicile!

by hardtobecalfan on Jan 17, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

See above.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Gould has been here longer than Tedford. I think he’s been sought after before. If he leaves, either the money is truly absurd, but more likely something else is terribly wrong.

by WolverBear on Jan 17, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

his wife is in the Athletic Department, so, yes, it’d take a lot to unsettle Gould

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I blame Bill Gates.

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

relevant

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

UW has a full staff now

Retained last year’s RB coach I think

by zifnab32 on Jan 17, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

nope, they’ll hire Shaq Thompson next

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

nah, we'll beat them

Their defense was utter crap this past year and will continue to be utter crap. Our players will be motivated. Unless Bad Maynard shows up, I like our chances at home.

by sacman701 on Jan 17, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I feels good now

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by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 17, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Inure yourselves then to the thought & contemplation of these things. Attend to the fearful representation of hell, which God hath been pleased to exhibit in his Word. Frequently revolve in your minds the fearful and astonishing miseries of it.

—Israel Loring, c. 1730, Cal fan

by slaphancock on Jan 17, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

BTW atoms, now you know why Cal fans are always preaching doom

This is what happens when something good happens

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 11:58 AM PST reply actions  

thank you.

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

You still don't get it.

Good new equals bad news a couple days later for Cal football. There is no such thing as good news. Hence doom.

by mrjpark on Jan 17, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s no reason for that to be true.

"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded

by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

atoms, IT’S CAL.

by Scootie on Jan 17, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Why should bad things happen to Cal?

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

They shouldn’t. But they do.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 17, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure, we’ve had some bad luck, but it’s not destiny.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s only been 60 years of bad luck. Why would anyone read anything into that?

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by CalBear81 on Jan 17, 2012 6:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t blame people for feeling that way, but the bottom line is, there’s no rational reason for bad things to consistently happen to us.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 10:03 PM PST up reply actions  

BUT THEY DO!

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by CalBear81 on Jan 17, 2012 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Until they won’t anymore.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 10:32 PM PST up reply actions  

WHEN WILL THAT BE????

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by CalBear81 on Jan 18, 2012 12:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow! We fired our DC, our OC was poached by Alabama

and most of the staff had turned over. We’re pretty upbeat about the replacements.

You lost two position coaches . . . and the Cal FB program is facing the proverbial fire?

by HuskyInExile on Jan 18, 2012 12:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Would you please just go away already? Don’t you have anything else to do but annoy us?

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by CalBear81 on Jan 18, 2012 12:16 AM PST up reply actions  

He’ll go away when we stop talking about this… so, a day or two.

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by BearStage on Jan 18, 2012 2:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I dunno, CB81. The Red Sox won the World Series. Anything can happen.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 18, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

A team with a massive fanbase and payroll won the World Series?

Devil you say.

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It was fantastic."
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by AERose on Jan 18, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

A team with new facilities and a new stadium could go to the Rose Bowl? Inconceivable!

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by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Our last Rose Bowl win was in 1937, and our last trip to the bowl was in 1958. A lot of bad things happened since then.

by mrjpark on Jan 17, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Of those bad things, I’m sure 98% of them happened after what we thought to be good news.

by mrjpark on Jan 17, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

January 1, 1938 and January 1, 1959. Don’t exaggerate!

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by CalBear81 on Jan 17, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

My thought

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 11:58 AM PST reply actions  

Tatonka?

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by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 17, 2012 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

the curse of chief seattle.

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

this is from that commercial in the 70s about litter and polution, no? At the end of the spot, the chief sees all the trash along the shores, and turns with a tear in his eye.

by concordtom on Jan 17, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate Washington more then any other school period. I already marked my calendar.

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by berkeleyboy510 on Jan 17, 2012 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

welp

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by Swamphunter on Jan 17, 2012 12:08 PM PST reply actions  

If we don't sell out Memorial next year against UW and score like 120-0 against them, it's all for naught

But knowing Cal it’ll be half empty and UW will deliver another last second loss and Tedford will be fired

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:09 PM PST reply actions  

Timing...

I understand Lupoi leaving to coincide with the hiring of Wilcox, but Kiesau’s timing is more puzzling.

What are the rumors suggesting about Kiesau’s departure, was it just money? Or is he pissed because he got cut off in the parking lot by Tedford, or he didn’t like his new office in Memorial?

Grrrr…

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by Auricursine on Jan 17, 2012 12:10 PM PST reply actions  

Nothing puzzling about the timing

Washington OC just got hired by Alabama yesterday. Current WR coach got promoted to OC, thus opening a spot on the staff.

by pranaferox on Jan 17, 2012 12:48 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Well, it looks like he's getting the

OC position instead. Point remains the same.

by pranaferox on Jan 17, 2012 12:51 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

HOLY PAYDAY, BATMAN
RGBearTerritory Ryan Gorcey
Kiesau making 240k at #Cal. Will make between 700k-800k as OC at #UW on a 3yr contract.

https://twitter.com/#!/RGBearTerritory/status/159366846951337985

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:11 PM PST reply actions  

oh, so he IS getting a promotion. OC, not just WR coach.

by the federer express on Jan 17, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

RGBearTerritory Ryan Gorcey
#Cal AD is handcuffed as far as money is concerned.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

And this is why we’ll never get a Rose Bowl bid

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

except

Cal’s pay is in line with all the other public universities in the Pac-12, including Oregon.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

only for the HC.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope

With a few exceptions, the pay for assistants is in the mid-200Ks and position coaches in the mid 100Ks for Pac-12 teams (public schools).

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Time to pony up . . . or not.

Would be very kind of you to simply allow us to pick and choose . . .

by HuskyInExile on Jan 18, 2012 12:11 AM PST up reply actions  

It is absolutely pathetic that you have nothing to do but troll.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 18, 2012 12:17 AM PST up reply actions  

And there is our answer…

by WolverBear on Jan 17, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Football is worth the investment

Why spend the big bucks on the SAHPC and the stadium renovation, only to withdraw your investment in the actual product? Unless of course you are setting up a certain coach to fail, in order to replace him.

by chowder on Jan 17, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

maybe not worth the investment that washington is making.

by chowder on Jan 17, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Ask the people with the money. Guess: buildings can be named after you. Coaches can’t.

by WolverBear on Jan 17, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

WANTED: RICH BILLIONAIRE

Coach Jeff “Bill Gate’s Bitch” Tedford

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Hell

We’ll even take POOR billionaires!

by SturdyGoldenBear on Jan 17, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe you will, but I’m too classy for that.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Stanford coaches technically have peoples names (donors) in their titles.

by Flag Guy on Jan 17, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless they are demolishing the SAHPC and stadium, I don’t think they are withdrawing their investment.

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Except I think Sarkisian just dug up the SAHPC in its entirety and transferred it to the UW campus. It was a clause in Kiesau’s contract.

Kiesaus “If Tosh gets a boat I want the damn SAHPC!!!”

by MN Bear on Jan 17, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

That's FUNNY!

Really do wonder if they tossed in a boat; makes for a great story . . .

by HuskyInExile on Jan 18, 2012 12:13 AM PST up reply actions  

They’re obviously not setting Tedford up to fail, as they’ve invested millions in the renovations and the new center and gave him a contract they can’t buy themselves out of.

by mrjpark on Jan 17, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I really wish this hadn’t been posted. It’s basically an open sign saying “HEY GUYS, TAKE OUR COACHES IF YOU WANT!”

by iVinshe on Jan 17, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

We’ve become the Oakland A’s of the PAC-12, we have some good coaches on the cheap then Sarkbrenner comes in and offers them a bunch of money, a boat, and jumbacos.

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by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 17, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

At least we have a new stadium!

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

And a boat made out of jumbacos tied together with hot sauce, who knew such a thing could be engineered even.

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I have less animosity towards Kiesau leaving than Tosh even though it sucks.

Tosh’s departure was a betrayal.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Colombian drug cartel

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by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 17, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

University of Abi DUBi.

The Rose Bowl is too mainstream anyway.

by KeenanAllenFett on Jan 17, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

The money came from the new Pac-12 media contract.

This is also where WSU got the money to pay Leach 2 mil plus incentives after paying Wulff only 800k per year. All Pac 12 schools got a major infusion of cash from the joint TV deal. Where is Cal spending their cut?

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by Koppenberg on Jan 17, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

In all seriousness, eliminating a multi-million dollar deficit that we have been running for several years.

by Scootie on Jan 17, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

No it did not. I can’t tell you where it came from, but that is not the case. You would not be happy if you knew where it came from.

by fiatlux on Jan 17, 2012 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

But we might feel better?

by WolverBear on Jan 17, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

As a point of reference

Wazzu’s coach made 800k last year.

by chowder on Jan 17, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

$650,000 base

I do not believe he hit any of his incentives that went along with his contract

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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jan 17, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

It is unbelievable how much UW has to spend on coaches. They’re also currently undergoing a facilities upgrade. This can’t all be Pac-12 network cash…so where was this money before?

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by Berkelium97 on Jan 17, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

For realz, what in the world …. ?

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

freed up by cutting men’s and women’s swimming?

by chowder on Jan 17, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

It must be the money saved by not having to heat the pools now.

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by Berkelium97 on Jan 17, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Truth about Husky spending

The Husky football program is 100% free of public dollars and the school’s general budget. It is 100% self-sufficient. The new stadium upgrade is funded by 100% private donations. Also, Bill Gates is not booster.

by Huskies_USMC on Jan 17, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, good for you.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

lol this

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

HAHAHAHA

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

The Husky football program is 100% free of public dollars and the school’s general budget. It is 100% self-sufficient.

huh? Are there any BCS football programs that don’t make money? Lots of ADs break even or lose money because football is funding other sports but football makes money pretty much everywhere.

by OskiGoDumb on Jan 17, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

He meant the entire athletic department.

There is no money coming from the UW’s general fund into the Athletic Department.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 17, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Look at it this way

Now they get 62000 a game, whereas if they start selling out all their games, the additional people will provide at least an additional $3 million in revenue per year. Cal hasn’t figured this sort of thing out yet, apparently.

by ososdeoro on Jan 17, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Your stadium upgrades are being funded in large part through University issued bonds… which are borderline public bonds.

by fiatlux on Jan 17, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Right, that’s what I said. Here’s the funny thing about bonds, they have to be paid back priority… so if the revenue falls short (noooo, that never happens) then what?

by fiatlux on Jan 17, 2012 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Why didn’t the boosters step up to begin with? Why go with bonds if the moolah and good will was there?

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 18, 2012 8:03 AM PST up reply actions  

(sounds of crickets chirping)

by fiatlux on Jan 19, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

To be fair to HuskyInExile, I went over the the Washington blog and called him out there about his endless trolling here. He apologized and said he wouldn’t continue.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

More than that. They only have 19 sports. That’s a lot of money not going out.

by Scootie on Jan 17, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Good point, Scootie.

Cal: Bears with Books.

by AndBears on Jan 17, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that 700k per year?

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Well I hope he has the same success as OC at UW as he did as the OC at Colorado. In short I hope he sucks

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

1) More understandable than Tosh…upgrade in pay and position

2) Riduculous numbers.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Welp

If you want to spin this as a sort-of positive, it’s that expectations will be sky high at UW for the next couple of seasons. Another 7-6 season won’t cut it. They’re going to have to win 10 games and win the North division a couple times after committing this much money.

by minesweeper on Jan 17, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Think you will find we're more patient than that.

We will NOT ve happy if we’re spanked again by every ranked team we play . . .

by HuskyInExile on Jan 18, 2012 12:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Overpaid

But I wish Kiesau well. He was good, but he’s not that good.

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by carp on Jan 17, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Well

there was that vaunted Colorado offense that he led.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, i remember seeing it in person at Memorial Stadium during the 2010 season. they really were cooking that afternoon

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed, he seems more replaceable as WR coach than TOsh as recruitier.

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

But the WR’s LOVED him.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

This. He was actually a heck of a recruiter too.

by Scootie on Jan 17, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Excpet that we’re desperate at WR after several WR recruits in the last few years failed to pan out. Thus, we need the WR recruits more than ever.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok who would be the best two coaches to hire so that we could keep our recruits around?

Someone suggested Lorenzo Alexander for DL. I like that. How about Jerry Rice for WR lol.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:13 PM PST reply actions  

I get targetting alumni, but I’d doubt active players would retire from the NFL to coach/recruit. I LOVE ’Zo, though

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

best?

if i’m allowed to dream lol

Jimmy Robinson for WR (Cowboys this year, Packers the last 6 or so)
Pepper Johnson (Patriots) for DL
Pain Train as a GA / Recruiting Assistant

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by nativeson on Jan 17, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

i want ess eee cee guys.
and pain.

The Rose Bowl is too mainstream anyway.

by KeenanAllenFett on Jan 17, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

LSU’s DL coach and WVU’s WR coach?

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d like Oklahoma State’s WR coach, but OKSt’s benefactor is a billionaire.

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d love for him to throw out a few ‘GO BEARS’ when he commentates on NFL games for SkySports—just to confuse the crap out of the Brits

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Not a Tosh-level betrayal yet...

While this spells (moar) DOOOOM for us and more hatred for UW (congrats, I hate you more than I hate USC!), for the time being, I’ll congratulate Kiesau and wish him well.

But if I find out he left without saying a word to the WRs and tried to sway a recruit while still a member of the Cal staff, so help me God, Kiesau will feel the full fury of my fist being shaken in his direction.

by TheScientist019 on Jan 17, 2012 12:13 PM PST reply actions  

I hate UW more than I hate the Furd.

I felt bad for them during the 0-12 campaign. I was cheering for them with a new coach and what not. Then I moved to Seattle and noticed how asshole and completely out of touch with reality Husky fans were. And then the three losses in a row to them made it worse (and made them my 4th most hated team). But this easily vaults them up there as #1

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I wanted to like UW, really, I did.

My GF (also a Cal alum) is a grad student there, so we wanted to make UW our distantly second favorite team.

Then we went to the Cal game at Seattle, got booed, got the stank eye, and got to listen to a fan scream for Bigelow to be “broken” for betraying them.

And now the Lupoi mess…

by TheScientist019 on Jan 17, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Were you sitting next to me then? Cause I heard the same shit about Bigelow.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe. Did you see an incredibly good looking scientist sitting next to you, decked out in blue and gold? Like, so good looking that everyone kept staring at him?

by TheScientist019 on Jan 17, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes I was staring at him too

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Then congratulations. I have officially enriched your life.

by TheScientist019 on Jan 17, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Why the hate?

This is the game. It is not new. You guys loved it when Tedford got picked from Oregon and when recruits like Coleman and Bigelow were turned from UW – no? I get the disappointment, but this is a competitive business. we made our moves and now you get the counter opportunity. Personally, I hope you pick off some Ducks as that entire staff is making peanuts and overshadowed by Chip

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
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by Gekko Mojo on Jan 17, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

when recruits like Coleman and Bigelow were turned from UW

Not really a comparable situation. There was nothing underhanded about that, they just changed their mind. Had none of the past couple days stuff went down, I could easily see the same thing happen to say…Ellis McCarthy. Wouldn’t have gotten the same reaction.

by Missing Barry on Jan 17, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t hold a grudge against Kiesau or Bigelow for leaving.

The difference is Tosh left without a word to his players and tried to sway Shaq to UW while a member of the Cal staff. That is slimy and I’d love to see someone defend that.

by TheScientist019 on Jan 17, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Oops

Supposed to be “against Kiesau or Ellis McCarthy”

by TheScientist019 on Jan 17, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Wishing them well? At a rival school in our division? No, thanks. I hope he enjoys his precious money and loses every game.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Wishing them well? At a rival school in our division? No, thanks. I hope he enjoys his precious money and loses every game.

"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded

by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

and tried to sway a recruit while still a member of the Cal staff

This is starting to get repeated, but nothing I’ve seen suggests it’s accurate.

by Missing Barry on Jan 17, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

(You are implying Tosh did this, right?)

by Missing Barry on Jan 17, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I wasn’t in the room, so I can’t confirm it, but seemingly reliable sources have Shaq saying Tosh at an in-home visit saying “I’m going to UW, would you consider it there?”

by TheScientist019 on Jan 17, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I was there. I can confirm.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I can confirm that Twist exists.

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I am a Jumbaco salesman.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Jumbacos don’t need salesmen! They sell themselves!

by TheScientist019 on Jan 17, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Which makes Twist’s lack of sales even worse.

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

no one wants hair in their jumbacos.

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

or jumbacos in their hair

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by nativeson on Jan 17, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

True story

My ex was actually into me putting Jumbacos in her hair.

I tried it, but it was too kinky, even for me.

by TheScientist019 on Jan 17, 2012 3:28 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Did they feast upon Jumbacos?

by TheScientist019 on Jan 17, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

TOSH ATE ALL THE JUMBACOS

THEN LEFT FOR UW??

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

seriously. f that guy

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by nativeson on Jan 17, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

“FOR ALL THE JUMBACOS”

by the federer express on Jan 17, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

that was one of my favorite dbd’s…. for all the tostitos.

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s not the quote that I read. The quote that I read said he told Shaq on the visit he was considering the UW offer, and only asked him about the second part after he took the job.

by Missing Barry on Jan 17, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I read this quote as well.

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

If that’s the case, then “swaying” recruits might be a little strong.

I still think it’s a sleazy move to keep a recruit who was interested in your old program and your new program more updated with your career move than your own players. Plus, I think that shows Tosh’s true motives during those final visits.

by TheScientist019 on Jan 17, 2012 3:43 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I have a bridge to sell you.

by fiatlux on Jan 17, 2012 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Um, ok. My bad for going by what’s actually been reported…

by Missing Barry on Jan 17, 2012 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the point is that Tosh was clearly leading Shaq/testing the waters. There’s no need for Tosh to keep Shaq more updated than his own players.

Did he outright say “hey Shaq, I’m leaving in a few days, here’s why UW is awesome”? No. But it’s still a slimeball move.

by TheScientist019 on Jan 17, 2012 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, we don’t know how it went down. What if Shaq asked him to his face if UW offered him a job? The context matters.

by Missing Barry on Jan 17, 2012 7:42 PM PST up reply actions  

i don’t know how else to say this… then Tosh shouldn’t have been there.

by fiatlux on Jan 17, 2012 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Then Tosh says, “I’m torn right now, but let’s focus on Cal. Even with me, Cal still has….”

by TheScientist019 on Jan 17, 2012 11:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Hope he calls the same kind of plays that he did at Cal. Overspending on relatively inexperienced coaches is crazy.

by prd74 on Jan 17, 2012 12:14 PM PST reply actions  

And there you have it
Kiesau making 240k at #Cal. Will make between 700k-800k as OC at #UW on a 3yr contract.

Gorcey with some facts.

by daveman on Jan 17, 2012 12:14 PM PST reply actions  

Oops vintage. Sorry.

by daveman on Jan 17, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Bwhahahahha

Amazing. Serious LOL and rec. Gallows humor is the best.

"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded

by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Can we hold a fundraiser or two to hire quality coaches?

by Nkicker on Jan 17, 2012 12:16 PM PST reply actions  

Might need a lot more than that. I don’t think the SAHPC and stadium renovations are anywhere near paid off yet.

by WolverBear on Jan 17, 2012 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

How about everyone buying lotto tickets to pay for the stadium and coaches?

by Nkicker on Jan 17, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey! That was my idea. Yesterday!

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by CalBear81 on Jan 17, 2012 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I need an intellectual property lawyer!

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by CalBear81 on Jan 17, 2012 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

insert “isn’t ‘intellectual’ kind of a strong word?” joke here

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by BearStage on Jan 17, 2012 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Time to add more #pessimism

Cal won’t make a splashy hire. We’ll get some also-rans and ruin everything

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:22 PM PST reply actions  

I’m upset because I have to interact with Fuskies

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Keep it classy, royrules.

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey! We like you! We like your coaches so much we hired two of them . . .

and kidding aside, it is good for a program when assistants get promoted; makes the Head Coach and/or school more attractive to ambitous assistant & position coaches.

BTW, Tennessee has more cause to bitch; we hired their DC & LB coach on a straight lateral basis w/o much of a big raise . . .

by HuskyInExile on Jan 18, 2012 12:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but Wilcox and Sirmon were west coast guys that Tennessee probably knew would go back that direction at some point.

by Mallrat92204 on Jan 18, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Or maybe we’ll make a splashy hire LET’S WAIT AND SEE

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 17, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

But then maybe that splashy hire won’t pan out OH NO

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 17, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

But then that will lead to Tedford’s dismissal and Hue Jackson’s hire YAY

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 17, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

But oops we hired Hugh Jackman by mistake DOOOOOOOM

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 17, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

that’d be an upgrade. he’s Wolverine!

by the federer express on Jan 17, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Then Michigan rolls in and steals HIM

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

ok, then it’s DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

by the federer express on Jan 17, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I expected this comment to be made by WolverBear.

"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded

by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Our bio program will analyze his DNA and learn how to legally convert our players to be able to heal and do as much as him. Then we’ll discover that UW bought the scientists who created it and their research.

by Maxdarkfire on Jan 17, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

No, no, that would be GOOOOOOOD. Female attendance increased 1 billion percent!

by Scootie on Jan 17, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

This comment was not anticipated by me.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you think they’ll throw the new hires in the pool???

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Bring back Holmoe!

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

You had me at ‘hanging’

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Should I buy a cotton suit? I’ve been debating myself for a while!

2011 World Cup Champions Team India

by Rishi on Jan 17, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

You should always buy another suit.

by unclesam22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

So I should take that as an endorsement?

2011 World Cup Champions Team India

by Rishi on Jan 17, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Definitely. It is a fabulous look.

by unclesam22 on Jan 17, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Ordered! I’m totally ready for… summer?

2011 World Cup Champions Team India

by Rishi on Jan 17, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Seersucker suit.

"Fuck DOOOOOM. We prefer BOOOOOM!!
- alpha1906

by golden oso on Jan 17, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely cannot go wrong with that.

by unclesam22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I have one!

2011 World Cup Champions Team India

by Rishi on Jan 17, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Posts fretting over coaches leaving are the new DBDs. By arranging the Tosh to UW move, the CGB mods have pulled off the greatest troll of all time. All in the name of getting us to click on front page posts.

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, I’m stealing your DBD material and posting it here.

Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.

by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

in teh game of trolls, twist wins

by the federer express on Jan 17, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I blame Turkey and Redoukulous Bear

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

So how the hell does the rest of the Pac get all this extra spending money but not Cal?

I mean sure we built the SAHPC but the money wasn’t from the TV deal IIRC.

WSU hired Leach with a lot of money
UCLA hired Playoffs Jr and some assistants
ASU probably pays Graham more than Erickson
UW fuck them

Why don’t we have the money?

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:26 PM PST reply actions  

We blew our load on awesome commercials to air on ESPN and PAC12 Network.

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

But we’ve been running the same “What do you see? UC Berkeley” commercial since 2006!

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by Berkelium97 on Jan 17, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Bring back Whose Domicile! And the old timey bear one!

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Old timey bear was awesome.

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 17, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

sadness. lupoi is in that commercial. you can read his name on his back.

whose domicile? our domicile!

by hardtobecalfan on Jan 17, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

We just bought a kick-ass stadium and training facility. I assume our credit is a little maxed out right now.

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

UW is building theirs as we speak.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

lower interest rates..i blame the subprime fiasco and therefore blame wallstreet

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

true

ours is privately funded though.

by charles188 on Jan 17, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

So is the UW's

the city and state said NO

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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Jan 17, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

The UW’s is funded through University issued bonds… and since the University is a public institution it’s a little fuzzy if this is considered privately funded.

by fiatlux on Jan 17, 2012 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

What are you talking about?

Oski debuted new duds at the basketball game on Saturday!!! He looked SHARP.

by Scootie on Jan 17, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

WHAT?! How the hell did I miss that? Photos please.

Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.

by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t have any, but it was a lovely navy cardigan and some snappy dark brown shoes. Apparently a gift from the class of 1954, two sweet little members of which occupy the seats next to mine.

by Scootie on Jan 17, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Three words: Board of Regents

Cal and UCLA are burdened by bureauracracy.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon

by Gekko Mojo on Jan 17, 2012 1:59 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

If that’s a serious question, apparently the AD has been running something like an $11M average deficit for a decade, or something along those lines. So…yeah, it was spent years ago.

by Missing Barry on Jan 17, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Tedford speaks
johnbreech John Breech
“Tosh and Eric have decided to take other jobs and we wish them the best,” coach Jeff Tedford, more reaction coming. #Cal

https://twitter.com/#!/johnbreech/status/159370826267901952

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

Teddy being teddy

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish them the worst

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 17, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

DOOOOOOOM

And fire Tedford?

by TheScientist019 on Jan 17, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

But we should always fire Tedford!

by TheScientist019 on Jan 17, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

FIRE TEDFORD

He should have called them fuck faces.

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 17, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Tedford is so old-fashioned

being classy and all.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

if not that at least dick cheese or cum dumpsters

Inspiring and completing since1997 since2010!

by Fire Starkey on Jan 17, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

You mean he didn't go all Samuel L. Jackson on us?

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by Berkelium97 on Jan 17, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

For all we know, Coach Tedford was heartbroken over losing Tosh. He’s that kind of guy, maybe?

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Homosexual?

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 17, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL! I like your posting style.

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

(pause)

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by BearStage on Jan 17, 2012 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Basically the only thing to say.

Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.

by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

johnbreech John Breech
“We exhausted all of our resources to try to retain Tosh and Eric… But they course to take advantage of new opportunities,” Tedford #Cal
1 minute ago

Glad that they tried.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

(full quotes below)

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 17, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Well at least the next hires will know that he won’t gut reaction blast them like all of us want to do. I can sense underlying tension in that statement.

by Maxdarkfire on Jan 17, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I heard they are goin after Blas now

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by berkeleyboy510 on Jan 17, 2012 12:28 PM PST reply actions  

if you’re joking, I’d like to email you a punch in the face
If this is for real, I apologize and would like to email a pee-in-the-face to Sark

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

don’t play like that.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Well yesterday we lost all our DL commits, today the WR

Tomorrow probably all our OL!

This has been a great start to the work week.

I know this isn’t Tedfords fault but I can’t help feel like he has lost control of his staff.

Sure assistant coaches come and go but like this?

by SDBear on Jan 17, 2012 12:30 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

He forgot to add fertilizer to the money tree—rookie mistake

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Sandy and Tedford statements

http://calfootballblog.com/2012/01/17/statement-from-tedford-and-barbour/

HEAD COACH JEFF TEDFORD

"Tosh and Eric have decided to take other jobs, and we wish them the best. When people have career opportunities they make decisions based upon a wide array of reasons that are important to them. We appreciate their contributions to Cal football, and we exhausted all of our resources to try to retain Tosh and Eric within the confines and continuity of our coaching staff, but both chose to take advantage of new opportunities. We will proceed to replace them with quality coaches who will continue to stand for what the University of California and our football program represent, just as Tosh and Eric did."



DIRECTOR OF ATHLETICS SANDY BARBOUR

"Tosh and Eric are outstanding football coaches that did a terrific job during their tenures on the Cal staff. We certainly valued everything they brought to our football program and appreciate their time with us. We did all we were able to do to have them remain at Cal and appreciate our community’s willingness to assist in that effort. We remain excited and confident about the direction of Cal football under the leadership of Jeff Tedford."

"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded

by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:31 PM PST reply actions  

1. pretty much expected.
2. still appreciated.

FUTBALL IZ SRS BUSINESS GUYZ // ONLY HAVE FUN WHEN ROZ BWL
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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

are you serious.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Subtext: We’re poor and can’t pay you squat. If you’re good, you’re better off going somewhere else where they have tons of money to compensate you.

by daveman on Jan 17, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Again…Cal’s compensation to their coaches are in line with those of other public universities in the Pac-12 (with the exception of now UW).

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

That other tweet said we’re 11th in the pac-12 in assistant coach salaries.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Look it up

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/story/2011-12-19/college-assistant-salaries-package/52123650/1

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Also

we’re not talking about a jump to $300K or $350K…we’re talking $500K and $700-800K…that’s LSU/Bama country.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Is the pool of other P12 public universities the relevant comparison? I mean, we don’t just play those teams, and we are theoretically competing for talent with the entire country.

Also, there are cost of living considerations in the Bay Area that affect the raw numbers.

I’m not opining on what’s fair or good or right. I’m not informed enough yet to feel strongly about what we should be paying our staff. But if the argument in the original post was that we are financially disadvantaged in hiring coaches, then there seems to be a wider array of factors to consider.

by Reef on Jan 17, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

1) Yes because public and private schools have different levels of fundraising. Also, private schools don’t publish their AC’s salaries. There are also only 2 of them in the Pac-12.

2) Yes I agree with the cost of living thing but again, we’re not talking about a $50 or 100K difference

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Right. What I’m saying is if the reality is that private schools can pay coaches more, then that’s a competitive disadvantage and it’s something we have to deal with. Hopefully we can compete despite the disadvantage, but if it’s there, it has to be acknowledged.

by Reef on Jan 17, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

We agree :)

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

also, we paid $321 million for a stadium and we can’t afford coaches?

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by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 17, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, seriously.

"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded

by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Donor base is tapped out.

FUTBALL IZ SRS BUSINESS GUYZ // ONLY HAVE FUN WHEN ROZ BWL
--Thoroughbred

by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I find it surprising that they have $321 million, but not, say, $325 million.

"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded

by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

They’ll give more when we win. But we won’t win until they give more. It’s a classic Mexican Standoff.

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 17, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

they’re all going into lab rats at the moment, curing cancer and all that useless stuff.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

We do..it’s called recruiting season. We give the fans a little taste, and then BAMN…take it away

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe some donors don’t feel the coaching staff is worth the $? With something like the SAHPC, at least it’ll be around for years and years – long term investment that will benefit many coaching staffs. I could easily see a donor not wanting to fork over $100k (or whatever size donation we’re talking about here) on a staff that’s fielded a mediocre team the last couple years….

(This does not mean I agree with that view or have it myself, just bringing it up)

by Missing Barry on Jan 17, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, if they have anyone better they’d like, and want to pay for, then by all means let’s get it done. We even have openings now.

"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded

by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

aaaaahhhh… here is the crux. Now I get it.

by fiatlux on Jan 17, 2012 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Tosh and Eric have decided to take other jobs, and we wish them the best. When people have career opportunities they make decisions based upon a wide array of reasons $$$.

FTFY

by hunger on Jan 17, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Large number of rea$on$.

Thanks To$h and Kie$au.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

thank god there aren’t any $s in Gould

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by nativeson on Jan 17, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

They’ll just have to change the font color.

by puresilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait there was more...
…the Cal football program will not stand idly by while a Sandusky-like scandal unfolds under our watch. And so, we felt it was best that these coaches leave on as good of terms as possible.

Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.

by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

hey now.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Too soon?

Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.

by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

uhhhh..

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not sure what Sandy meant by that.

Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.

by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you for finding hte line! I had wondered where it was. :)

FUTBALL IZ SRS BUSINESS GUYZ // ONLY HAVE FUN WHEN ROZ BWL
--Thoroughbred

by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s all about the spin, right?

Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.

by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 10:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Finally a statement!

Sure it was cookie cutter but it is nice to finally see Cal and Tedford say something.

by SDBear on Jan 17, 2012 12:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I’m actually surprised that it wasn’t entirely cookie cutter. We learned that we hit a resource ceiling for paying those guys, and that an increase for Tosh would have raised a proportionality problem rippling throughout the staff.

by Reef on Jan 17, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, I believe this is the first official confirmation that Eric is leaving.

by Reef on Jan 17, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Minor point, but it’s good to break it first. Shows some semblance of control.

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 17, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

seemingly a bit odd…

We remain excited and confident about the direction of Cal football under the leadership of Jeff Tedford.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 17, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

covering her bases, and putting down talk of firing tedford for this.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

seems like the AD shouldn’t even respond to the lunies calling for his head for assistants making personal choices.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 17, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

But sadly, the crazies have just gotten that vocal nowadays.

by TheScientist019 on Jan 17, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like a vote of no confidence. Kind of like an NFL GM saying, “We are not making any coaching changes at this time.”

Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.

by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

“Of course, I’m not running for president.”

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 17, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Fire Tedford, hire Justin Wilcox from UW

Wilcox brings Tosh and coach K back to Cal.

All Husky fans feel our pain.

by SDBear on Jan 17, 2012 12:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

How’d you know how the 2012 offseason was going to play out?

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 17, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

This is a joke

However I would like to see us poach a few UW coaches now.

by SDBear on Jan 17, 2012 12:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I could definitely see it happening a couple years down the road…

by Missing Barry on Jan 17, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn't it basically

Cal football program is bigger than 2 coaches?

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, that’s stating the obvious.

"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded

by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

As DLIne coach?

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

as proprietor of a department that is unfair to women and minorities (too far?)

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by CruzinBears on Jan 17, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

As Prime Minister.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 17, 2012 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I like how in the span of 2 days my hopes for success over the next few years have been dashed and my joy at the win on Saturday has been thoroughly dampened.

by puresilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:36 PM PST reply actions  

LOL. Hey Washington! Do you need a new Band Director? I’ll do it for $500K.

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Does UW need a new blogger?

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Awesome

Inspiring and completing since1997 since2010!

by Fire Starkey on Jan 17, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Excellent

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
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by Gekko Mojo on Jan 17, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I laughed way too hard at this.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn those Huskies!! Now they’ll be 7-5 and go to a lower tier bowl game every year!!!!

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 12:40 PM PST reply actions  

Finally a Bear w/ sense of proportion.

that’s actually a fairly likely outcome this coming year . . .

by HuskyInExile on Jan 18, 2012 12:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t this Tedford’s search? Sandy would just sign off on salaries and searches for HC’s right?

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure all his hires have to go through her.

by mrjpark on Jan 17, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, JT is busy wrapping up recruiting right now. I’m sure he’s getting a ton of help with the coach search

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't say wrapping up recruiting is quite right

More like, trying to hold the recruiting together.

by SDBear on Jan 17, 2012 12:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed. I get all the doom and furor, but I’d rather just accept things and move on. This all may end up being a blessing in disguise. Where there is change, there is opportunity.

And, BTW, all the DOOOOOOM is probably not helping recruits feel excited about staying.

Chin up, roll on, go Bears.

by hunger on Jan 17, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

too rational. I WANT TO SCREAM AND KICK AND SCREAM AND TWEET

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

ROLL ON YOU BEARS

WE ARE THE 0%

by zoonews on Jan 17, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t feel any doom FWIW. Just annoyance and frustration.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

This all may end up being a blessing in disguise. Where there is change, there is opportunity.

We’ll see.

"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded

by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree in principle

But disagree with anyone who calls people Honey Badgers. Shit’s so 2011.

by Oski4Heisman on Jan 17, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

So are we postponing MBC's recruiting post again?

Matter of fact we may just want to scratch it until all are coaches are done leaving or Feb 1st.

by SDBear on Jan 17, 2012 12:47 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Bob Condotta says Dawg Pound offered him 500,000 in recs and a boat.

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by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 17, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh forgot to tell you, but MBC is doing recruiting posts for the Dawg Pound now.

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by Kodiak on Jan 17, 2012 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOO

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

They took MBC, but left us with Twist?

They truly are bastards!

by TheScientist019 on Jan 17, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Sorry. We tried to pay them to take him.

Not enough jumbacos left.

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by Kodiak on Jan 17, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

DOOOOOOOOOM

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by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 17, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Doom is if he’s able to use the same recruiting report that he was planning for Cal.

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by Kodiak on Jan 17, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

We need to get back at them where it hurts the most. We need to beat them on the battle field. You can spend all the money in the world for the best generals and the best weapons but there is nothing more demoralizing then to get your ass wooped at your own game after thinking you could buy your way to victory. We need to show heart on that field and in the process carve theirs out.

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by berkeleyboy510 on Jan 17, 2012 12:52 PM PST reply actions  

We are currently riding a 3 game losing streak to them

So we better fucking beat them, this just adds more urgency to that now.

by SDBear on Jan 17, 2012 12:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Breaking News: Ohio State has decided to play Washington on Sept. 15

Cal will play Presbyterian for second consecutive year, but this time at renovated Memorial Stadium.

by JustBear on Jan 17, 2012 12:53 PM PST reply actions  

great, they bought our schedule too

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Silly

we couldn’t afford Presbyterian at this point.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

UPDATE

We are now playing Presbyterian @ Presbyterian.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

haha rec’d

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

UPDATE

Big South Conference has paid University of California to join their conference for $1 million deal.
Now the Presbyterian game will be a conference game.

by JustBear on Jan 17, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

seriously?

Isn’t Presbyterian in one of the Carolinas???

I would be worried about this game.

By the way, I thought it’s typically a 2 for 1 deal when playing a non-BCS team.

by LEastCoastBears on Jan 17, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

After Washington is done with their little buying spree, there could be some good or better replacements available at the Cal discount rate.

by VermontBear on Jan 17, 2012 12:56 PM PST reply actions  

Get that Cal alumni card ready!

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

This is what Cal gets

40 years of neglect. Not investing in football, not investing in the department, not outreaching to alumni, not doing things right at AT&T, not having enough donors to pony up and make these big investments. Everything that’s happened over the past two days is what happens when your school refuses to fully commit to football.

Washington is in the exact same situation. Expensive renovations, down team, bad recruiting. But they have donors willing to pony up and a school willing to spend. This shows how far we have to go as a program.

The SAHPC was a start. But the SAHPC isn’t going to coach this team.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 17, 2012 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

And I should be clear

The donors did a lot to rebuild Memorial. But now we learn what it means to play with the dogs.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 17, 2012 12:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I would argue that UW's move took everyone by surprise

they are paying LSU/Alabama level money to their assistants. That’s really unheard of for the Pac-12.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

what about USC?

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah the exclusion of U$C is implicit.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

They’ve always spent a lot on coaches. Nick Holt was one of the highest paid DCs. Washington has a big, big donor base.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 17, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Nick Holte was high

but the other coaches are $100K to $300K.

Now, UW has a DC at $700K, a DL coach at $500K and a OC/WR coach for $700K.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

They’re using every penny of that Pac-12 TV contract.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 17, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure

I am just saying that it’s the first shot and Cal just happened to be the target.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Not how you think they are.

by fiatlux on Jan 17, 2012 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Fiatlux, if you have something to share, share it. Otherwise you’re just being a troll.

by Scootie on Jan 17, 2012 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I am sharing it, as in, what was being said wasn’t true. Believe it or not we can’t always disclose all the details we know or from whom we know them, but we can, based on that information, suggest what is being publicly said is not true. It’s not being a troll. thank you scootie.

by fiatlux on Jan 19, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, they’re not paying their HC all that much. The downside is will they be able to pay him if he can ever win 10+ at UDub?

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by carp on Jan 17, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope not

cause UW would offer SAHPC $1 million to be part of the staff.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Not saying they couldn’t do more, certainly not, but I’m not sure I buy “we can’t $$$ compete.”

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 17, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup

right on the (f@!@#) money.

by Paulie on Jan 17, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it fair to say Cal grads are proud, but they’re not necessarily proud enough to throw down $$$ for a school that may have kicked a lot of them in the nutes, one way or another?

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
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by carp on Jan 17, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

the majority of the donations go towards academics. I know my small donations go towards the College of Engineering.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

you mean you’re not giving money to positon coaches?! shame on you!!

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

If this is how Cal fans think, be prepared for this to happen over and over again.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 17, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t there a thought, when graduating, “WE SURVIVED!” which seemingly wouldn’t coincide with “give us more money to be greatr?”

I have no idea, I just worked at a Cal research department 80+ hours a week while my colleagues put in 90+.

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by carp on Jan 17, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m a donor, happy to give, but I also don’t want to give and feel like I’m just throwing money at an broken system.

by Paulie on Jan 17, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, see. UW donors (and a lot of other fanbases will throw that money.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 17, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Making it rain in seattle

/ducks

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Who says I'm not?

But the past few days certainly makes me have doubts.

by Paulie on Jan 17, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, there may also be more of them, who give same amount as Paulie, since UW used to be a lot more successful.

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

and look what that has got them the last 10 years.

by fiatlux on Jan 17, 2012 5:49 PM PST up reply actions  

that's the difference between us and the legacy programs

At legacy programs, donors give and give and give, regardless of whether they think the system is “broken,” because they believe that if they keep giving, they will buy influence. Or better seats, at least.

That and in many places (not Washington, necessarily), there’s no competition for the sports entertainment dollar.

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by Ohio Bear on Jan 17, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, good morning sunshine!

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with everything that you just typed

So the question is, how does Sandy and Cal fix this?

As you said the SAHPC is a start but it isn’t going to coach this team. I am a little worried at who Tedford picks to replace these guys. The last time we had to fill a lot of coaching voids we ended up with Daft, Cognetfi, Ludwig and Marshall.

A coach is only as good as his staff and we have seen how bad things can get with some subpar coaches. Hopefully Tedford can find some diamonds in the rough but if we can’t afford to keep our own young up and coming coaches, how can we afford to hire someone else’s?

So that leaves us with older retread coaches who have bounced around with middling results (Marshall) or really young and unproven guys from smaller programs who may not work out.

by SDBear on Jan 17, 2012 1:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

He just hired Kiesau last year.

by Scootie on Jan 17, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Need to address two things

1) Institutional support (money)
2) Tedford needs to make it a good culture for coaches to work in and want to be at, including a winning tradition

(1) is the big problem right now

(2) despite rumbling and rumors, I still think Tedford’s taken care of this.

by Paulie on Jan 17, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s called value…I like the article on BT about how Tedford has always recruited well but Tosh added an extra dimension due to his youth and use of social media.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

They can’t. Not until a Phil Knight-type figure rolls around and pledges big time bucks to the university. Someone who thinks the SAHPC is a minor investment and can help pony up to ensure all coaches are safe and secure.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 17, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

The last time we had to fill a lot of coaching voids we ended up with Daft, Cognetfi, Ludwig and Marshall.

No. Last time we had to fill a lot of coaching voids, we got Kiesau, Michlzick, Ambrose, Arroyo, and Blasquez.

by JustBear on Jan 17, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

That was because we had to purge all the shitty hires before them

I dot really count Coachs M and K because they had coached at Cal with Tedford before and both were looking for new jobs because their HC had just been fired.

by SDBear on Jan 17, 2012 1:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Also

evidence that UW just bought out Avinash.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think it's entirely "neglect"

UW and Cal are entirely different places, and Seattle and the Bay Area are entirely different places. Also, as others have pointed out elsewhere, UW was really really good not too long ago.

I went to grad school at UW. Seattle is the kind of place where everybody is expected to sit in the same kayak, and talk up how great things are even if the kayak is about to go off a giant cliff. We’re too smart for that, and I love that.

by hunger on Jan 17, 2012 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m talking about a series of incompetent administrations that put football on the backburner (WAY on the backburner) to the point where we had decrepit facilities and constant coaching turnovers.

That in turn eroded the fanbase, when we probably should have one of the strongest donor groups in all of the Pac-12. We’re stuck having to make up for this.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 17, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Putting football on the backburner seems like pure stupidity, because investment in football generates the funds to pay for everything else.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 6:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Avi, honestly, step back off the ledge. Last time I checked Washington just turned in back to back 7-6 seasons. Of course those were their best years in 10 years. Also it took them forever to get their stadium going (sound familiar).

by fiatlux on Jan 17, 2012 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I liked the “UW model” in the post-Willingham era. Without going to USA Today, I believe the ratio of HC pay to all assistants was something like 1:1, which has allowed them to go out and get some talent (Coach M for a minute) and Nick Holt (had our number for a bunch of years!) at the assistant levels. Now they’re getting experienced, highly acclaimed D1 coaches who seemingly pair well with the younger-ish Sarkesian.

Not as much of a fan as the current “Cal model,” and that comment wasn’t in regards to Tedford’s abilities/performance. Frankly, we’re lucky Tosh and Gould have stuck around as long as they have.

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by carp on Jan 17, 2012 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

That's a lot of money they're throwing around...

I really don’t like this salary escalation that UW is forcing down everyone’s throats.

by JABear on Jan 17, 2012 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

USC, Texas, the SEC, and others have been doing it for years. I think we’re behind UCLA and UDub in terms of public universities. Even a school like Mizzou paid their assistants more, and of course cost of living blah blah blah

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 17, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Understandably,

we don’t pay our assistants a lot money, but 700-800k a year is absolutely absurd.

by JABear on Jan 17, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

For a kiesau, yes. For a Norm Chow or the like, no. I think Texas at one point had a $1 million dollar DC?

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
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by carp on Jan 17, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Muschamp (now HC at Florida) but he was also “Head Coach in Waiting”

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 17, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Not true

UW yes, but Cal is totally in line with most of the other teams in the Pac-10…

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Do we want to be in line or do we want to win?

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
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by carp on Jan 17, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

brb

re-affirming my commitment to Berkeley and driving out to Top Dog for lunch

go bears.

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by nativeson on Jan 17, 2012 12:57 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

While you’re there, drop some $20s by Sandy’s office.

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by AndBears on Jan 17, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Top Dog just got bought by UW

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
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by carp on Jan 17, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Have a top and a hot for me.

by VermontBear on Jan 17, 2012 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Here’s a good comparison:

“Doug Nussmeier’s hire has yet to be officially announced at Alabama as the new offensive coordinator at Alabama but that should happen soon. The Tuscaloosa News reports he should earn around $600,000 a year with the Tide.”
-$600K for an OC that lead a good offensive attack last year. (25th, 33.4pts/game overall in scoring)

“BearTerritory is reporting that Kiesau is leaving Cal to take a three-year deal at UW that would pay him roughly $700,000-800,000 a year.”
-More money by at least 100K for an WR coach shifting to OC that lead a mediocre offense last year (53rd, 28.3pts/game overall in scoring, but includes Presby. outlier)

Ummm… ok. but you gotta give props for Kiseau for getting paid big $$$ even though he was very much average.

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 12:58 PM PST reply actions  

Well, this helps the Huskies in 2 ways because it also screws us.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

ugh

I wouldn’t put Kiesau in the same category as Lupoi, because position coaches almost never turn down a coordinator job at a similar program.

If he tries to steal some of our recruits, then he’s a backstabber.

by sacman701 on Jan 17, 2012 12:59 PM PST reply actions  

Treggs better stay

worried about Doizer now, and Payton is a sure thing to be gone.

by JustBear on Jan 17, 2012 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure Sark didn’t just bring him there because he liked the way he playcalled.

Those recruits are about to hear how nice the view is from the stadium.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 17, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

A virtual certainty that he goes after Payton, and has a very good chance of getting him.

by Reef on Jan 17, 2012 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

they only Payton Seattle needs is Gary.

by JustBear on Jan 17, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

lulz

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by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 17, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Why do your troll your own fansite? I'll never understand you.









…but i’ll never quit you either…

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by BearStage on Jan 17, 2012 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s a bad situation. I just try to make light of it. “Gallows humour”

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by Rishi on Jan 18, 2012 8:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Why

Why are we paying SEC money to Kiesau and Lupoi? I can see the argument for Lupoi because of his recruiting, but I really did not think Kiesau was all that great (Colorado days). It sickens me.

by TKM399 on Jan 17, 2012 1:04 PM PST reply actions  

we aren’t—that’s why they left….

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s a UW fan.

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

If that’s the case, I got trolled. I though our master troll was supposed to protect us? WHERE ARE YOU REDONK? DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT MOVING TO THE DAWGPOUND!

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you have an email address for REDONK?

We’re hiring for the DFawg pound, or so the rumor goes . . .

by HuskyInExile on Jan 18, 2012 1:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, POTUS@whitehouse.gov

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 18, 2012 8:06 AM PST up reply actions  

refreshing to see a UW fan that’s actually concerned about this crazy spending spree… tired of all the “OMFG, WE’RE AWESOME… WE’RE GONNA TAKE THE PAC-12 CROWN 1000000 YEARS IN A ROW. SARK FOR PRESIDENT.”

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

yep, you just won. rec’d

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm a UW student, but still root for Cal

because I come a family of Cal grads (my dad was a pretty involved alumnus). I just think it’s a messed up situation as a whole, but that’s college football. I really don’t see these hires having a huge impact on our (UW) record this year because Sark is still a coach who makes some very questionable calls and the defense is absolutely terrible. I have no idea why any recruit would choose our school over Cal, but I am biased.

by TKM399 on Jan 17, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

but

it will do so much damage to Cal

by JustBear on Jan 17, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

the question is why should we.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly...

I’m glad they’re gone of that’s what it would have cost us to keep them. That said, I’d rather have kept them at their current positions. Everyone seems to think Clancy’s leaving, meaning Lupoi would have had his shot with a little more patience. Cal would have also had a couple more years to save up some money for his raise. But no way in hell would I support paying Lupoi over 3x as much to keep his same responsibilities. Keiasu is being grossly overpaid at UW. He came back to Cal from Colorado as a WR coach from being an OC for a reason — the position fit him better and he excelled at it. Looks like he’s going to have to learn the lesson twice. But at least he’s getting paid more to do it.

by mrjpark on Jan 17, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

He came back to Cal from Colorado as a WR coach from being an OC for a reason

Well, it might have something to do with how he did as an occordinator, but the bigger factor was that the staff was fired. So…yeah, generally assistants need to find new jobs when their HC gets canned.

As for Tosh, he isn’t getting a promotion to dcoordinator, but they are making it sound like he’s getting more responsibility in the position at UW – he’s getting some coordinator responsibility.

by Missing Barry on Jan 17, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Who knows, in a year or two

We might be calling for Kiesau and Lupoi to be fired. This is a lot like the Nick Holt hiring. We grossly overpaid him and the fans quickly turned on him. Husky football fans are really quick to judge and not forgiving.

by TKM399 on Jan 17, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for being level headed. Or trolling. Can’t tell which. I’m assuming the former.

by hunger on Jan 17, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m serious. My dad donated a lot of money to the football program before he died and my grandparents, mother, and sister are all diehard alumni. It’s really sickening to see all my fellow Husky fans assume that poaching coaches is going to solve all our problems.

by TKM399 on Jan 17, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Tosh going to UW was bad for UW, but worse for Cal. So fuck your program. I’m sure you’re a nice guy and all, and don’t take this personally, but fuck your program, your coach and your boosters.

by Oski4Heisman on Jan 17, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Completely understand

It’s unfortunate that Cal alumni don’t spend nearly as much as UW alumni do. I personally do not like the program the amount of money spent has not translated to wins on the field.

by TKM399 on Jan 17, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Fun fact: Kiesau was my high school’s quarterback when I was in school.

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

You bastard!

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by CalBear81 on Jan 17, 2012 5:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I blame myself.

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 10:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Good! : )

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by CalBear81 on Jan 17, 2012 11:59 PM PST up reply actions  

YUP--pretty much.

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I blame Sarkbrenner

Throwing money at our underpaid coaches!

HOW DARE HE!

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by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 17, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Sark is a douche, just like Pete Carroll

by TKM399 on Jan 17, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

USC + Seattle = Douche

Probably something to do with the money and change in weather.

by Oski4Heisman on Jan 17, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

My first reaction is they way overpaid for Kiesau, even if he comes with a couple wide receivers.

by Reef on Jan 17, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

so how much did UW pay Kiesau?
the figure must have come up, but got buried in loads of comments

by JustBear on Jan 17, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

The word in the papers in Seattle

is 700 – 800k over 3 years, so 333 – 366k a year. I think people around here are assuming 700 – 800k per year.

by pranaferox on Jan 17, 2012 2:32 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

how is he (as OC) gonna make less than Tosh?

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, hard to believe he’d make about half of what Tosh is making. And Cal could’ve, probably would’ve matched a 20K raise

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you have a link on that?

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes I do.

Whether or not you believe it is up to you. seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/huskyfootballblog/2017260557_kiesau_joining_staff.html

by pranaferox on Jan 17, 2012 2:43 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

doesn't sound definitive, one way or the other

A web site that follows Cal, BearTerritory.com, reports that Kiesau is leaving to take a three-year deal at UW worth $700,000-800,000 and will be the offensive coordinator for the Huskies. (And to clarify, this could be the total on the deal, not what he would be making annually).

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Is he getting paid in Canadian dollars?

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by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 17, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

oh RB you so loony.

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Well considering the CAD is slightly stronger than the USD, that’s a good deal…

by puresilence on Jan 17, 2012 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll trade you CAD for USD one to one then …

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

So, basically, the Seattle Times is relying on Bear Territory.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

But Bear Territory is relying on the Seattle Times!

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Good point.

I must swapped a ‘w’ for the ‘c’ at the front of ‘could.’

by pranaferox on Jan 17, 2012 2:54 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

would be kind of a dumb move seeing what tosh got.

by j.lee on Jan 17, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

700-800 K.

The Rose Bowl is too mainstream anyway.

by KeenanAllenFett on Jan 17, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I think UDub looks around and says, we need to be better than Cal and, not only that, we need to step on their throats as much as possible so we can take annual swings at the Pac12 crown. That involves getting extremely strong in CA recruiting and making life hell for a CA team like Cal. Out of any team in the conference, I’d say UW is most like Cal.

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by carp on Jan 17, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I could see UW figuring out who they should try to beat, and picking Cal based on Pac-12 North, California recruiting, not-being-Oregon, etc.

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I wasn’t around to experience this, but when UW was awesome, USC and UCLA were a) down and b) UW was recruiting SoCal very well? Even Willingham was a CA guy. Makes sense to think they’re looking for a strong foothold in CA if they ever want to return to the Fuskies of old.

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by carp on Jan 17, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree that UW and Cal are the most similar schools in the conference.

I’ve always rooted for Cal after UW, and likely still will. I can understand why you all might not feel the same.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 17, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I have no idea what your point is, other than (perhaps) make an excuse for UW.

My feeling is basically this: I don’t mind our coaches getting better jobs (or better-paying jobs) and improving their life. That’s great.

But the timing on these is clear: UW wasn’t just after our coaches, their potential, and filling holes in the UW program. The timing was designed to also steal recruits from us for THIS CLASS. In fact, I would wager that was a major concern.

So, in a sense, it’s another version of Pay to Play. It’s underhanded, it’s sleazy, it’s unethical, and it sucks.

But so what, right? They can do it, so they did. Still don’t make it kosher.

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by SoCal Oski on Jan 17, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

What makes you think we would make these hires for just 3 or 4 recruits?

Do you think we should have waited until after signing day to hire all of our coaches? How does that make any sense? I’m not exactly sure when you think coaches can switch jobs without it being sleazy.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 17, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I honestly think UW is throwing down a ton of money to win now rather than later. They think this next group of coaches and recruits can do it. It’s probably not sustainable on a long term basis, but they want to win while they know they a shot at winning.

by mrjpark on Jan 17, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Timing

If it was all about the coaches, why not wait and either try and buy them after LOI day, or perhaps make the announcement then?

Look, congrats to you guys for buying the coaches. You must all be very proud. But don’t try selling that nonsense about the timing being just a coincidence, because it simply doesn’t fly.

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by SoCal Oski on Jan 17, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Neither are good choices. The question is, to whom does a recruiter owe more loyalty — the recruits, or the university? Ideally, the job offer should have been made when neither factor really matters.

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

By that logic, a coach could never leave, because he’s always beholden to the players in some way.

It seems to me that a coach leaving a week or two after LOI day is no more a slap in the face to the players than if he leaves before spring camp opens, midway through a season, or immediately after a bowl game.

Being an Old Blue means embracing the "meh".

by SoCal Oski on Jan 17, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed. but I think it might be a slap in the face if the coach were to leave in the middle of the game, in the middle of a play, right after slapping a few players in the face. So, at least that didn’t happen.

by slaphancock on Jan 17, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

...

What kind of logic is that? Maybe we should add, “at least he didn’t go on a shooting spree and kill everybody before he left”.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

We need coaches to recruit and such too.

Can you imagine how much crap Sark would get if we didn’t hire new coaches until after signing day? Sark didn’t do this attempting to screw Cal over, that’s just a by product of doing what’s best for UW (hiring coaches as soon as possible).

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 17, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed, Lupoi and Kiesau would be nuts to wait until after signing day and work with what we have (aside from JJ and Kasen Williams).

by TKM399 on Jan 17, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Can you imagine how much crap Sark would get if we didn’t hire new coaches until after signing day?

In other words, it was important to sign the coaches before signing day because the hires impacted recruiting. How is that different than my point that the only reason the hires were done now was to benefit recruiting?

Sark didn’t do this attempting to screw Cal over, that’s just a by product of doing what’s best for UW (hiring coaches as soon as possible).

Giving Sarksleazian the benefit of the doubt here, I’ll accept that he didn’t do this with the express and sole intent of screwing the Cal football program over. But there is no way he didn’t realize that these coaches had good relationships with very highly touted recruits whom he coveted, and that hiring these two specific coaches (as opposed to, say, the Oregon D-Line coach, or the receivers coach from Utah) had a potential to influence those recruits.

All in all it seems to back my initial contention that the timing of these hires was specifically designed to purposefully try and also win these recruits. If Sark couldn’t get them in the previous months, he’ll try now by buying their main recruiters.

Basically, you seem to agree with me, and your conclusion is “tough break, Cal.”

Just seems a bit sleazy to me.

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by SoCal Oski on Jan 17, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s completely sleazy, Sark learned from the King of Sleaze.

by TKM399 on Jan 17, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe that Sark decided he wanted Tosh and Kiesau for these positions without thinking about what recruits they would bring this year.

Once he decided who he wanted it was in our best interest to try and get them as quickly as possible, because we need as much recruiting power as possible.

Is Shaq or Payton really worth $3,000,000? That’s about how much we’ve garunteed Tosh and Kiealu will be making. I don’t think Sark was thinking in terms of individual recruits when he made his decision.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 17, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Shaq and Payton are probably worth a few hundred grand by themselves, maybe more over four years. Plus Tosh and Kiesau are good coaches, which is apparently worth several hundred thousand a year. Plus whatever other recruits they get over the next few years…

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

You are really overvaluing individual recruits.

You really think that two recruits are worth around 10% of what our head coach makes?

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 17, 2012 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Depends on the recruit

De’Anthony Thomas will likely have been worth millions to the UO athletic department by the time he leaves.

by KitIsh on Jan 17, 2012 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, yeah. I mean, your coach is supposedly worth more than he is making in salary, right? If there were no excess value generated then it wouldn’t be worthwhile for the institution.

Put it this way. If your program is generating $35-40 million, then what do you think the value of a star player is?

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahahah, he wasn’t trying to screw Cal, it’s just a happy side effect.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

If it was all about the coaches, why not wait and either try and buy them after LOI day, or perhaps make the announcement then?

Dude, there is no reason or incentive for UW to do this. Coaching changes happen before LOI day all the time. You might be right that they’re trying to do that, but this particular claim just isn’t good evidence that it’s true. There is nothing suspicious or unusual about the timing here.

by Missing Barry on Jan 17, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

It may happen, but it’s meant to fuck with our recruiting as well, let’s not kid ourselves.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah...

I’m usually not paranoid, but UW has been trying to put doubts in the heads of our recruits.

They sent out a press release awhile back saying, “we’ve completed x of our y staff. Now we just need a defensive line coach with proven success coaching, experience with Wilcox’s system, and the ability to recruit nationally.”

Gee whiz, who could do all of that…?

by TheScientist019 on Jan 17, 2012 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

So you want the Huskies to try

and sign their recruits without a complete coaching staff? You expect them to screw themselves to spare Cal’s recruiting class? That seems like a pretty unreasonible position.

by pranaferox on Jan 17, 2012 2:38 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Sure, it’s a series of dick moves, but they’re all legal in the dirty world of college football. I think we’ve seen how far “class” takes us in college football.

And good luck trying to change things so everyone plays at our fairly high level of class.

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by carp on Jan 17, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure, it’s a series of dick moves, but they’re all legal in the dirty world of college football.

Ummm … that’s sorf of why I said, “But so what, right? They can do it, so they did. Still don’t make it kosher.”

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by SoCal Oski on Jan 17, 2012 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

In other words, we’re butt hurt but we wouldn’t be if we were the poachers.

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by carp on Jan 17, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

When have we done something like this?

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

No hard feelings, but we’re aiming at Rose Bowl wins more often than every fifty years or so . . .

by HuskyInExile on Jan 18, 2012 1:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Might be true. I’m waiting to see if they do actually poach any recruits, and if so, how many. If no Cal recruits end up at UW, that’s going to be a hard claim to make, so we’ll see.

by Missing Barry on Jan 17, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

z

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by Rishi on Jan 17, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

The Problem is Revenue generation

This list shows that washington’s football is #27 and even their basketball team is #64. Our football team is #66, that is pretty big gap between the two schools. I now live in Seattle area and have to say they are smug and arrogant and believe they are the reclaiming theirs. It had been a good run for the last 10 years living with the quiet lap dog, I hope that the NCAA makes a stop over on the way of home from Oregon and shuts this mutt up.
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by ginandbearit on Jan 17, 2012 1:05 PM PST reply actions  

One good turn deserves another

Is there anything of value from the hu$kies we can take?
Huck the Fu$kies!

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by bearblueballz on Jan 17, 2012 1:11 PM PST reply actions  

You can have our whole defense, seriously take that pile of garbage away.

by TKM399 on Jan 17, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe this was just a move so we could hire Quinn Tedford

by harmonpreservationsociety on Jan 17, 2012 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

why

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

You can’t buy them, UW took em all.

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

pringle

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

sweet.

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Follett would be a huge hire.

by TKM399 on Jan 17, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Get your ass here now, Zach.

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by Swamphunter on Jan 17, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

*Zack

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by Swamphunter on Jan 17, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

+’s are energetic, competitiveness, loyalty, passionate, big play guy, rushed the passer very well, forced a lot of fumles.

-‘s are that he’s never coached before and he’s never coached or played DL.

Fairly substantial negatives, but for our budget might be the kind of move we have to make.

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by carp on Jan 17, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

if he’s down for it, I’d bring him in as an Assistant of some sort for this year. I don’t know if he knows anything about DL coaching (or LB coaching for that matter)

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

like a grad assistant?

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

sure

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by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

This is definitely a spot to gamble. Safe pick will likely get you predictable results with a low ceiling.

by Reef on Jan 17, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Nice.

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Coaching what? Dline? Has he even been a grad assistant?

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 17, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

He probably won’t be D line coach, right? Probably GA?

by hunger on Jan 17, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Hard to imagine a GA makes substantial strides in recruiting.

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by carp on Jan 17, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

hard to imagine a GA that hits harder than Zack Follett :)

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Wasn’t Tosh’s recruiting part of what got him promoted to DL coch?

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

*coach

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

heh

He’s a poet and he doesn’t know it.

by sacman701 on Jan 17, 2012 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Kiesau is a step down from Nussmeier and they are paying Kiesau more than the school Nussmeier left for. Washington is paying more for less. I don’t think recruiting improvements from these moves will make up for the OC downgrade.

by VermontBear on Jan 17, 2012 1:15 PM PST reply actions  

FUCK
Greg Biggins @GregBiggins
“I was fine with Tosh leaving but now Coach Kiesau is gone too, man that’s my WR coach. I got some serious praying to do,” Cedric Dozier

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 1:16 PM PST reply actions  

of fucking course.

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I blame Tim Tebow.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

3 years for 700-800k

that is not per year, left for modest raise and OC title

by ginandbearit on Jan 17, 2012 1:18 PM PST reply actions  

Gorcey says it’s per year.

by puresilence on Jan 17, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d agree with Gorcey on this too..makes no sense otherwise considering what Tosh moved for

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by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

not what everyone else is saying. everyone else is saying per year. Per year more likely b/c if its 700k for 3 years, an OC is making less than Tosh, a position coach.

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

also

in line with what they are paying Wilcox.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely per year

you don’t pay Tosh as a DL lines coach for $500k and then pay the OC $250K.

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

ok, then common sense is lost

way too much. If this is the direction of the PAC 12, I fear we are in for a bumby ride back to the bottom. Fucking dawgs.

by ginandbearit on Jan 17, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Side note

Cal is probably going to beat UW next year. Huge holes on the Husky offensive line, the loss of Chris Polk, and the joke of a defense + Cal’s number 1 defense (with most starters returning) = Maynard just has to not screw up.

by TKM399 on Jan 17, 2012 1:19 PM PST reply actions  

Maynard just has to not screw up.

Riiiiiiight.

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by Kodiak on Jan 17, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope our O-line gets pumped and just abuses Tosh’s new family.

by TheScientist019 on Jan 17, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

It’ll probably happen. The Husky defensive line was disgustingly bad WITH Alameda Ta-amu

by TKM399 on Jan 17, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

For being a UW student it seems like you didn't watch that many UW games.

The O-line will be decent and while losing Polk hurts, we have plenty of capable running backs.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 17, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Watch the Oregon and USC games. The OL was inconsistent all year. Callier and Cooper are definitely not the same as Polk.

by TKM399 on Jan 17, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

They aren't the same, but they aren't neccesarily a huge drop off either.

That inconsistent OL didn’t stop our offense from being great (against average to above average teams). Obviously it could be better, but I don’t think it is the huge weakness you are making it out to be.

by UW11Bowdown on Jan 17, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Kelemete is gone and Tanigawa is coming off a torn ACL. They did fairly well at blocking against below average-average lines, but I really think next years Cal DL is going to be the best in the conference.

by TKM399 on Jan 17, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

NOT WITHOUT A COACH!

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

self-deprecation, it’s the cal way.

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

classic Cal self-deprication. it’s how we deal with disappointments year after year. if Cal self-deprication were a recruit, Cal would be a 5star ESPN U top 10 recruit… which UW would then try to steal…

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Top 10? We’d be #1 overall, what are you talking about.

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 7:15 PM PST up reply actions  

HUSKY SLAP FIGHT!!!

by fiatlux on Jan 17, 2012 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Wish I could match your optimism

We’ve lost to them 3 years in a row, twice when we should have won because we were (IMO) the better team.

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by Ohio Bear on Jan 17, 2012 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

That's it.

Time to burn something.

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by Swamphunter on Jan 17, 2012 1:21 PM PST reply actions  

Hey. No one loved Raleigh’s more than me. I just love my comedy more. I have integrity like that.

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

you have tap club?

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Nope. Too much structure for my style of drinking. However, I was a loyal customer from 1998 through this year.

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

From Gorcey
While #Cal’s at it, hiring @Lazer_15 as the WR coach wouldn’t be a terrible idea …

by LouisMurphy'sLaw on Jan 17, 2012 1:22 PM PST reply actions  

Isn’t he working at his parents real estate company? How about Geoff MacArthur or Bobby Shaw?

by TKM399 on Jan 17, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought I read somewhere that Mac was coaching in the high school level

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone know what Chase has been up to all these years after his Saints stint?

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Kiesau was a rehire. I hope we don’t go after Daft

by JustBear on Jan 17, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

hell no.

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

DUCKS: buy the rope, not the coach. The rope is magical

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

(shhh… don’t give up our secrets)

Deposed (and recently graduated!) #1 Indian

by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

puahahahahaa

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

we're actually pretty cheap re: assistants

unless this rope is made of hemp… that’ll get us thinking

scrappy

by Honka Playboy on Jan 17, 2012 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

RFECD

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Face it everyone

No way to compete with ridiculous $$$ like that. Whatever.

Move on, work like demons on this class, hire some great guys to take us forward.

And yeah, I’m booking flights for the game this year and those fatass alums behind me better stand up and represent!

GO BEARS!!!

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by 1988goldenbear on Jan 17, 2012 1:23 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

expected. not surprising.

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

fuck this day

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

yup pretty much.

Deposed (and recently graduated!) #1 Indian

by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

what does it mean?

by JustBear on Jan 17, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

means he’s an trojan.

The Rose Bowl is too mainstream anyway.

by KeenanAllenFett on Jan 17, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Who says fight on a lot?

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 17, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

………………………Cal?

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

do you even have to ask?

DOOOOOOOM

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

He spelled “roll” wrong. Oh.

by hunger on Jan 17, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

#trollon

"Our sturdy golden troll"

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by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 17, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

zactly.

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

new sig thx RB.

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

Time I got a new sig anyway.

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by Swamphunter on Jan 17, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I kid.

Troll gone to the brain.

Feels bad, man.

by Swamphunter on Jan 17, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

trolling me about a troll sig?

well played.

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Good ol’ Trollceptions.

Feels bad, man.

by Swamphunter on Jan 17, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Hmm

Also seems to like UCLA.

High up on the list #8clap

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 17, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I know it must kill you to lose these recruits

and I honestly feel bad. BUT NOT ONE OF THESE FUCKERS IS CONSIDERING OREGON. we can’t even get leftovers

scrappy

by Honka Playboy on Jan 17, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

lol, interesting take on this.

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

he’s claiming his account was hacked and neither fighton nor the 8clap were his comments.

Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.

by RaptorApocalypse on Jan 17, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

USC and UCLA fans are mean aziz. we’ll be nice to you, promise!!

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

someone post some good news

please. just make it up and sound convincing.

by bearacious on Jan 17, 2012 1:32 PM PST reply actions  

Jerry Rice in talks with Tedford to become WR coach

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by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 17, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I just saved 15% on my car insurance.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

OMFG

if i think like you, i am scared for myself.

Deposed (and recently graduated!) #1 Indian

by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Now I’m scared of you, too.

Old Toothwrangler

by Kodiak on Jan 17, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

i saved 15% on my car insurance by switching to Geico.

Deposed (and recently graduated!) #1 Indian

by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

desean has a year of eligibility left!

The Rose Bowl is too mainstream anyway.

by KeenanAllenFett on Jan 17, 2012 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude, everyone knows he went to Long Beach Poly, not Cal

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 17, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Never understood the furor about that stuff. Always assumed it happens because you can’t list a school you didn’t technically graduate from.

by hunger on Jan 17, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

They do it all the time.

Even DJax has done it now and then. But mostly, he says LBP.

by mrjpark on Jan 17, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

California has not sunk into the Pacific Ocean…yet

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 17, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

just means lex luther hasn’t succeeded yet.

by j.lee on Jan 17, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Tree Sitters Remain Evicted from Area Outside Memorial Stadium.

Cal: Bears with Books.

by AndBears on Jan 17, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

1. New Memorial will be open next season.
2. SAHPC is ready.
3. Our stellar recruiting class from last year is still here.

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Cal Men’s Basketball is in 1st place.

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

UW declares bankruptcy. Tosh’s boat was repo’d.

by VermontBear on Jan 17, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Serious attempt

Zach Kline started class today. If he turns out to be what he could be, that makes up for a lot.

by Reef on Jan 17, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Good QB >> good anything else.

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

good OL > good QB

"#trollon" - RB

by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess the way I’d put it is that OL is essential to great QB. So I will add that Michalczik remains on the staff, and that Tagaloa reconfirmed his commitment last night.

by Reef on Jan 17, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

i’d say having a good OL makes it really easy to have average to above average QB play. and if we could get Pac-12 average QB play consistently, we would’ve won a lot more games recently.

"#trollon" - RB

by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

All of that is true, but it’s the offseason, can’t I dream about a Zach Kline Heisman right now?

by Reef on Jan 17, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

<3

of course!

"#trollon" - RB

by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

good OL + good QB = WIN

by JustBear on Jan 17, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

The state of California is resuming talks with Hawaii to separate from the Continental United States and float down to hang out with them.

Alaska is rumored to be joining the talks.

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by Swamphunter on Jan 17, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Steve Young to use remaining eligibility and be Cal’s QB next year

2011 World Cup Champions Team India

by Rishi on Jan 17, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

nah, concussions.

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Huskies outlawed, no longer allowed to be kept as petsl.

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by Rishi on Jan 17, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Rice news okay

but isn’t Montana calling our recruits and telling them to stay with Cal?

by bearacious on Jan 17, 2012 1:34 PM PST reply actions  

Certainly not with UW, since his kid just bailed for some JC in Texas.

by Scootie on Jan 17, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

In Joe we trust?

by j.lee on Jan 17, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Not like UW wronged him

He just go stuck behind a guy that broke basically every school passing record last season.

by pranaferox on Jan 17, 2012 3:19 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Some men just want to watch the world burn ("like me!")

“See, I’m a man of simple tastes. I enjoy dynamite, and gunpowder, and… gasoline! And you know the thing they have in common? They’re cheap.”

"The Bear will not quit, the Bear will not die." -Joe Kapp

by Whohah on Jan 17, 2012 1:34 PM PST reply actions  

Tales of the numbers
UW:

Total Athletic Budget (2010): $61,640,598
Football Revenues (2010): $33,919,639
Football Expenses (2010): $19,207,560
Cal:

Total Athletic Budget (2010): $69,345,912
Football Revenues (2010): $24,433,654
Football Expenses (2010): $17,407,575

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/story/2011-12-19/college-assistant-salaries-package/52123650/1

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by CalBear949 on Jan 17, 2012 1:35 PM PST reply actions  

We're so effin f'ed

I think when Raleigh’s burned down it was a sign we should have noted at the time.

by bearacious on Jan 17, 2012 1:35 PM PST reply actions  

…time to back away from keyboard maybe?

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I doused keyboard with gasoline

and am about to immolate: but don’t worry, I’m fine.

by bearacious on Jan 17, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

OK, just checking!

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Does this mean Darius Powe is gone?

by TKM399 on Jan 17, 2012 1:37 PM PST reply actions  

He’s gone? Should somebody file a missing persons report???!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m currently forming a search party.

by LouisMurphy'sLaw on Jan 17, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Not so worried...

This will pass. If we can save baseball, I’m sure we have enough Cal Alums to raise the pay scale. It just took a thorn in the side first.

by NITChamp on Jan 17, 2012 1:38 PM PST reply actions  

Baseball was basically saved by one baseball player’s Mom. Do we have any filthy rich Safeway execs parenting our football players? If yes, time to come out of the woodwork.

by Scootie on Jan 17, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

some Notre Dame fan is trying to recruit Treggs to ND now on twitter. someone stop him!!!

by LouisMurphy'sLaw on Jan 17, 2012 1:42 PM PST reply actions  

Irish_Fan_In_MI Kyle Redmond
@BryceTreggs any possibility we see you at #ND now that the OC and WR coach at #Cal is heading to #UW? would love to have you in #NDnation

by LouisMurphy'sLaw on Jan 17, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Awesome.

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

The balance of power shifts to the Northwest

Greetings to the Bear nation from a snowy white Seattle. I have been looking over some of your kind comments sent our direction and must admit I feel your pain. I’ve always been a fan of Cal and hope you guys can make life hell for Oregon and USC. Unfortunately this is the current state of affairs for college football. Money talks and it seems we have a bunch up here because our boosters have decided to open their wallets just a bit wider after our defensive nightmare against Baylor. Sark has been rather greedy in rebuilding a rather weak defensive staff to almost biblical proportions in less than 2 weeks. The new “Dream Team” in college coaching is how SI referred to it. New defensive coordinator from Tennessee along with his best friend who just happened to be the top recruiter at Tennessee. The top recruiter at Oregon State. The top recruiter at Cal and now just to twist it a bit more the 2nd best recruiter at Cal. I’m beginning to see a pattern here just 2 weeks before signing day…

by Cpt. Husky on Jan 17, 2012 1:44 PM PST reply actions  

That having been said, we still have to play the games. So, there’s that.

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

by that do you mean the Game of Trolls?

"Our sturdy golden troll"

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by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 17, 2012 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Their trolls are no match for ours!!!

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Games are won on the field, not on paper, sir. See you Nov. 2

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Now I think I know what it must have felt like

to be part of the rebel army and get bitch-slpped by darth vader. Where are you yoda?

Suck on dese nuts TexAss!!!

by bearblueballz on Jan 17, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Only one way out. We hire top assistants away from Texas, Alabama and Michigan. We would get at least 3 years before any sanctions!

by view_from_here on Jan 17, 2012 1:47 PM PST reply actions  

Interesting tweet is interesting
Resume is off and away, time to pray.. Up up and away! Oh it’s a glorious day! Praise our Lord! #calgang

Zach Follett

by daveman on Jan 17, 2012 1:50 PM PST reply actions  

he faxed his resume to Seattle

by JustBear on Jan 17, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

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by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 17, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

other than being enthusiatic, is there any reason to believe he would be a good coach? Not getting the love fest here

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 17, 2012 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd love to see him as a GA

but he’s simply not qualified to be a full coach yet.

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by GBB4188 on Jan 17, 2012 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

my thought as well

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 17, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I see him more as a recruiter than a coach. does he need to be a coach to be a recruiter for the team?

by j.lee on Jan 17, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Any reason to believe he wouldn’t be a good coach? He certainly got the most out of his physical abilities at Cal, I thought. Definitely worth giving a shot to as a GA, I think.

by Missing Barry on Jan 17, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

i don’t know why i think the way i do. for some reason, i think he’s more a personality/relationship guy that a teaching guy. (this is based on nothing.)

by j.lee on Jan 17, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

No reason to believe he wouldn’t be. But he probably needs some training before he’s ready for it.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 17, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Right, that’s why you hire him as a GA!

by Missing Barry on Jan 17, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he’d be fantastic in recruiting!

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by Rishi on Jan 17, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

In all seriousness

Do you think Tedford will go after Randall Carroll? He’d have a year of eligibility and he would be the burner the team needs.

by TKM399 on Jan 17, 2012 1:56 PM PST reply actions  

A polite reminder. If you’re going to post images or animated gifs, please include a header.

This allows other posters to hide the images and/or gifs if need be.

Thank you.

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by Kodiak on Jan 17, 2012 2:14 PM PST reply actions  

thank you kod.

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

hurray, the troll is gone!

by the federer express on Jan 17, 2012 2:16 PM PST reply actions  

LOL.

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

hurray for level-headed Bears! you’re a good Cal fan, daveman.

by the federer express on Jan 17, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I also can’t blame Kiesau or Lupoi for leaving. That kind of money is life-changing and they are only looking out for their (and their families’) best interests. It’s too bad that they are leaving to an in-division conference opponent (it may have hurt less had they gone to Florida or Texas or Ohio State), but it is perfectly reasonable to understand their motivation.

Agreed, though Tosh recruiting Shaq right away doesn’t feel right to me.

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

yes thanks. btw. the end of the world happens in December of this year.

In a classic Cal twist, the end of the world will occur as we are getting ready for the Rose Bowl after a miracle run through Pac 12 play.

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

classic Cal twist

Don’t know what I did, but I’ll take it!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t more private $ than public $ being pumped into UC? ARE WE STILL PUBLIC?!

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--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 17, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that the Federal Government percentage has increased more recently. I seem to recall an article saying that Cal now receives more money from the Federal Government than from the State of California.

Here’s the article.

As it gets more funding from the federal government and less from Sacramento, UC Berkeley is effectively morphing from a state university into a federal university, according to Chancellor Robert Birgeneau.

by daveman on Jan 17, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Daveman please!

Can’t I hate Trash Lupus for stealing recruits he worked for Cal? Please? Too much sobriety!

by bearacious on Jan 17, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

boom

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

IT WAS LUPUS ONCE!

The Rose Bowl is too mainstream anyway.

by KeenanAllenFett on Jan 17, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Cal has been a doormat for 50 years

Because of this attitude. We just got bent by a conference rival and Bear Backers just throw up there hands and say “let’s just take a deep breath”.

We are moving into new $300 million stadium. Why do we have the 2nd lowest assistant payroll in the Pac? Why is JT making over $2 million and his most productive assistant $160k?

JT, Sandy and Birgeanau has plenty of explaining to do. I want specifics. Don’t let them off the hook.

by MoeB on Jan 17, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

amen brother

Hard to believe that these kids and their families would toss a chance at one of the best universities in the world for the migration of a couple of coaches (who probably won’t be there long).

But we know that from years of perspective.

I love how some of the commits are still rock solid. We will get what we get and make the most of it.

GO BEARS!!!

Middle-aged toothwrangler (HT: Kodiak)

by 1988goldenbear on Jan 17, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Fun

http://www.twitter.com/adamgorney

Three-star WR #Cal commit Kenny Walker said he has “some homework to do” and that #UCLA and #Washington are also being considered now.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 17, 2012 2:34 PM PST reply actions  

yay more DOOOOM

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

at least it’s gonna rain with the doom… hasn’t rained in the bay since november. we really need it.

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Those sunrise and sunset times are not calibrated to Cal standard time

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by Berkelium97 on Jan 17, 2012 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

do your damn HW, kid. no more reading Cal doom posts for you!

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I ask again

Make some more positive sh*t up! Now!

by bearacious on Jan 17, 2012 2:36 PM PST reply actions  

yea i think it’s time to pump that sunshine….

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

no sunshine? well, here’s drunkronswanson.com

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

If the hope of the next great QB starting his Cal career today isn’t enough, there’s nothing I can do for you.

by Reef on Jan 17, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I got you

"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"

by CruzinBears on Jan 17, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

a couple more.


oh and

and don’t forget

"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"

by CruzinBears on Jan 17, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

can i get a membership to this gym?

by j.lee on Jan 17, 2012 2:42 PM PST up reply actions  

what is your eligibility for Olympic sports?

"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"

by CruzinBears on Jan 17, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

i guess i can learn one. do we have an archery program? i hear my people are good at archery.

by j.lee on Jan 17, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

dis you?

"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"

by CruzinBears on Jan 17, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

prolly the best version of Robin Hood

"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"

by CruzinBears on Jan 17, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

can’t wait to go back.

by j.lee on Jan 17, 2012 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait...

…you mean UW didn’t just buy that?

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by Ohio Bear on Jan 17, 2012 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

OK I was going to wait until next season...

But we should just do it now…hire Justin Wilcox as Head Coach

by Mallrat92204 on Jan 17, 2012 2:43 PM PST reply actions  

Not going to happen, and shouldn’t happen, but that would be funny as hell.

by Reef on Jan 17, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know he seems like a perfectly reasonable candidate to me (extensive coordinator experience, has connections that can be used to get position coaches, some Cal history) We might as well start debating this new HC thing now…

by Mallrat92204 on Jan 17, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Wilcox

I mean his resume could be better but his defenses at Boise were great. Even though Boise played a weak schedule the defense held up when they played BCS teams.

His defense this past year at Tennessee was ranked 27th in total defense and 36th in scoring defense, which sounds good to me considering Cal’s roster on the defensive side is more loaded than Tennessee’s roster.

Wilcox seems like the best coordinator with west coast ties, lets just take him now.

New Memorial! New HC!

by Mallrat92204 on Jan 18, 2012 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Well I am moving on from being mad

I am ready for Tedford to fill these positions, sign a recruiting class and keep it moving.

Are we going to have a top 10 recruiting class still? No and we probably won’t have a top 25 class as well. However, we should have a good group of kids coming in, along with the last two good classes that we have brought in so the immediate future looks a lot brighter than the past.

All Cal can do is beat UW with the kids we have and go to a Rose Bowl.

by SDBear on Jan 17, 2012 2:46 PM PST reply actions  

All we can do is go to a Rose Bowl.

I like that.

by Reef on Jan 17, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Win a Rose Bowl and the kids will come.

by SDBear on Jan 17, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re so right. When the UW wins the Rose Bowl the kids will come…to Seattle! We have not won the Rose Bowl in 10 years but with the NCAA coming down with new rules just before they announce Oregon’s many violations that will hopefully chop the legs off the worst fans in the country I think that will change soon.

by Cpt. Husky on Jan 17, 2012 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

OH NO TEN WHOLE YEARS YOU POOR POOR DEARS

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by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

can we start Kline nao plz?

The Rose Bowl is too mainstream anyway.

by KeenanAllenFett on Jan 17, 2012 2:48 PM PST reply actions  

Also this puts a lot of pressure on Sleezy Sark and this staff

UW is in win now mode and if they don’t produce a Pac12 champion within the next 4 years somebody is getting fired.

You don’t pay out all of this money for 7-7 or 8-4 seasons.

by SDBear on Jan 17, 2012 2:52 PM PST reply actions  

I’m thinking if he doesn’t make significant strides and plays in at least in Pac 12 championship in the next 2 years, he’s gone. They’ve given him everything he can ask for (new coaches, new stadium, loads of cash), so he’s absolutely out of excuses. His situation is similar to being the manager at Man City (yes, a soccer reference). “Here’s everything you wanted and asked for. Win or get fired.”

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

In the game of Sark, you either win or you die.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Jumbaco is coming …

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he will have more than two years to get to a Pac12 CCG. I can see them giving him four only because next season they wont be playing at home.

by SDBear on Jan 17, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

forgot about that. i’ll push my limit to 3. but it’s imperative that he gets at least 8 or 9 wins in one of those seasons. 3 season of 7-5 won’t justify his spending.

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait… who is Tevez?

by puresilence on Jan 17, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

who’s that twat from argentina?!

by j.lee on Jan 17, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

From Urban Dicitonary:

Pulling a Tevez
The act of not even bothering to throw a sickie. You just slouch into work and sit there, refusing to do anything

I did a pulling a Tevez at work today… I get paid £250,000 a week and I just sat there, told the manager to f**k off when he asked me to work!

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

FUCK THIS SHIT

2012 Season Expectations:

Beat Furd
Beat UDub

Everything else is gravy.

Californian in Exile:

by secret ASian man on Jan 17, 2012 2:57 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I completely agree and we get them both at home.

by SDBear on Jan 17, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

and ucla and the ducks. i love even years…except going to the coli.

by j.lee on Jan 17, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

i’ve been DYING to beat S. Utah. smug S.O.Bs have it coming.

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 2:59 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You’re getting less clever with your handles. Next time, try to make it more relevant to the current situation and more accurately critical about our program and/or blog.

Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.

by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed, where’s the topical humor? I give the new handle a 3.4/10.

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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Sooooo...

A couple weeks ago we were pissed about the team underperforming and laying yet another nationally televised egg. This week we’re pissed that someone came and overpaid for coaches from that program?

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 3:09 PM PST reply actions  

it’s great to be a Cal fan.. .

by the federer express on Jan 17, 2012 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

gotta love the wild swings of emotions from doom to doom.

by j.lee on Jan 17, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

haha right? there are no other emotions, only doom.

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by nativeson on Jan 17, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Indeed. Just wanted to make sure I was keeping up in my fandom.

Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.

by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I totally start singing your username.

se-cret… AA-sian MAAn

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jan 17, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

By any measure Tosh was a great recruiter, which is why the underperforming can be underperforming in the first place. Also, by and large his area of coaching has been a strength.

Kiesau is a minor loss as a coach, and being upset is more the potential loss of recruits, another member of the staff who can relate to high school players, and the general hangover from yesterday.

by Reef on Jan 17, 2012 3:14 PM PST reply actions  

Just trying to lighten the mood with some DOOM humor. Or, DOOOmor as I like to call it.

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I know. I was mostly just thinking out loud (and justifying my own bi-polarity on this).

by Reef on Jan 17, 2012 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s not a DOOOmah!!!

by j.lee on Jan 17, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

You beat me to it!

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by Berkelium97 on Jan 17, 2012 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

"overpaying" for coaches

It’s not clear to me that UW is “overpaying” for coaches. Rather, I think that the Pac-12 coaching salary structure is starting to adjust to the new influx of TV dollars. It started with the head coaches (see the new hires) and now it’s trickling down to assistants.

It’s too bad we weren’t more proactive about adjusting salaries first, but it’s possible that budget/political realities made this impossible for us. But I bet everyone in the Pac-12 is paying their assistants 2x their current salary in a few years.

by bigdruid on Jan 17, 2012 3:14 PM PST reply actions  

Good point. I just hope they’re overpaying.

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

To me, the question of overpaying for Kiesau isn’t his salary in the abstract, it’s paying that amount of money to someone with his record. I get that this is pretty much what they had to pay, given what Wilcox is making, so maybe it’s just a matter of whether they made the right choice or were disproportionately attracted to the idea of getting some quick recruits and pillaging a conference rival.

I think Tosh is worth every penny of what he’s making.

by Reef on Jan 17, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

This.

"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"

by CruzinBears on Jan 17, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

As a Coug, I'd just like to say welcome to hating UW.

A couple of key points to remember:
1. Purple is a terrible color for anything not just for a football team.
2. They will literally make barking sounds.
3. If you ever trash talk them their fall back comeback will be something about how they won half a national championship 20+ years ago.

"If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep in."

by kelly20210 on Jan 17, 2012 3:29 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

If you ever trash talk them their fall back comeback will be something about how they won half a national championship 20+ years ago.

well fuck we have no comeback then.

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember the 1991 game versus UW like it was yesterday. I was more proud than bitter after the game, but looking back on it, damn, we should have won that, gone to a Rose Bowl, and taken away their half a championship.

by Reef on Jan 17, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, you guys are making this too easy. It sounds like you just got the death penalty. We lost two coaches ourselves in the last three weeks and what did we do? Go and get new coaches. Geez, guys…this isn’t anything new. Buck up!

Oh, I remember the 1991 game like it was yesterday also. I also remember being on the 50 yard line of the Rose Bowl a month later as we kicked the crap out of Michigan and won the National Championship with the most dominate defense the PAC-10 has ever seen.

It might be living in the past but at least I have a past to live in.

by Cpt. Husky on Jan 17, 2012 4:57 PM PST up reply actions  

…what are you trying to accomplish with your trolling, exactly?

by Missing Barry on Jan 17, 2012 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I knew I liked Cal fans

"If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep in."

by kelly20210 on Jan 17, 2012 6:31 PM PST up reply actions  

There is actually an awesome comeback.

0-12. Live it. Love it.

"If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep in."

by kelly20210 on Jan 17, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

0-12. That sucked big time as a Husky fan but we’ve beaten you every game since so how awesome is your comeback?

by Cpt. Husky on Jan 17, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

rec'd

"If you want your dreams to come true, don't sleep in."

by kelly20210 on Jan 17, 2012 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm here because you guys are genuinely funny!

Admit I’m having a hard time understanding while watching you ‘all toggle between rational, sarc and ’DOOM,’ but it’s quite entertaining.

and despite losing a couple coaches, when I look at our two teams on paper (last year’s team, current coaches, wild guess on recruits, schedules) you don’t appear to be in bad shape.

by HuskyInExile on Jan 18, 2012 2:00 AM PST up reply actions  

If you ever trash talk them their fall back comeback will be something about how they won half a national championship 20+ years ago.

We’re so fucked

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

GOD DAMMIT GET OUT OF MY HEAD

i’m spending way too much time here…

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by boomtho on Jan 17, 2012 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

And what is your fall back? Cougars haven’t won anything and your school is still in Pullman and will always be in Pullman. Who the hell wants to even drive through Pullman? Go Dawgs!

by Cpt. Husky on Jan 17, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Mike Leach apparently.

It’ll be fun when Leach gives a giant FUCK YOU to your new defense.

by CaliforniaBone on Jan 17, 2012 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Is your life really so empty that you have to try to make yourself feel important by coming to a Cal website not only to gloat at our misfortune but also to taunt WSU fans? What a sad little person you are.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 17, 2012 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

on the other hand it makes zing through much more efficient

by fiatlux on Jan 19, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Is it you?

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by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Not Tosh Lupoi. Can’t you read?

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 17, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

YOU KNOW I’M ILLITERATE, DAMMIT! Why must you reveal my secret to the world!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 17, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

This is good
Not_Coach_Lupoi Not Coach Tosh Lupoi
Red rover, red rover, send Arroyo, Gould, Pendergast, Michalczik, Ambrose, Thompson right over. #profit

Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.

by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Brilliant.

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Then you might like this
Not_Coach_Lupoi Not Coach Tosh Lupoi
Look, I gotta do what’s best for me and my family. Obviously, not the #calgang family, I mean my own real family! Lol

Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.

by CalBandGreat on Jan 17, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

FFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Trollin so hard!

"Our sturdy golden troll"

-cldpc

by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 17, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions  

TROLLED SO HARD UNIVERSITY

Tony Gonzalez? University of California?

by ikoolykedat on Jan 17, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

At least they’re leaving Blasquez…

"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded

by atomsareenough on Jan 17, 2012 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Someone who is obviously out-trolling you. Step it up, Twist!

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by Berkelium97 on Jan 17, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

This is kinda funny

So, as I was saying… We’re a family here at U-Dub. It’s among the universities of the world & I can’t see myself anywhere else. #dawgpack

FUTBALL IZ SRS BUSINESS GUYZ // ONLY HAVE FUN WHEN ROZ BWL
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by sec119 on Jan 17, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

funny and accurate. UW IS among universities in the world. same as University of phoenix.

by stevvy89 on Jan 17, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

UW's a good school

Not Stanford/UCLA/Cal, but not WSU/OSU/ASU either

by zifnab32 on Jan 18, 2012 5:56 AM PST up reply actions  

UW TROLLPACK

People, it’s a BUSINESS. Gotta look out for ourselves. It’s just like that documentary I saw recently. Think it was called Game of Thrones.

"Our sturdy golden troll"

-cldpc

by Redonkulous Bear on Jan 17, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Frankly, if I were Sark, I would’ve gone after Gould instead of Kiesau.

In NFL at one point or another
Gould: Echemandu, Arrington, Lynch, Forsett, Best, Vereen
Kiesau: Jackson, Hawkins, McKnight (Colorado)

by daveman on Jan 17, 2012 3:35 PM PST reply actions  

Don’t give him any ideas! Haven’t we given them enough these days?

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