Cal Men's Basketball vs. the Utah Utes Live Gamethread
by Kodiak on Jan 14, 2012 6:50 PM PST
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Who cares about the NFL Playoffs? (Playoffs!?!) Our sturdy Golden Bears are back at the Haas hosting the once-proud Utah Utes. Come watch Jorge Gutierrez shut down the Pac-12's 4th leading scorer, Josh Watkins.
Is this the game where we get to see Alex Rossi? How about Christian Behrens? And most importantly, will we get FREE WAFFLES?!?!
GO BEARS!
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Unlike last Sunday
the NFL playoff game appears to have been decided already before the Cal basketball game has started
GO BEARS!
by LEastCoastBears on Jan 14, 2012 6:52 PM PST reply actions
however, apparently Miss America is on TV…
by LEastCoastBears on Jan 14, 2012 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
I hear Michael Jackson singing
Beat it,
just beat it…
Hey, if Jon Doss can say the F word 3 times on that podcast you guys linked me to, then I can make that pun, too.
Are you ready for some Cal basketball? Absolutely!
apparently, this was Miss America, not Miss USA (which is owned by Trump, along with Miss Universe)
by LEastCoastBears on Jan 14, 2012 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
i think the man with 92102391234 daughters should slow down too!
Cal
by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2012 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
So Arizona lost
And furd beat Colorado by 20? CGB night is going to be the biggest home game of the year.
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by norcalnick on Jan 14, 2012 6:57 PM PST via mobile reply actions
wow, didn’t realize that Arizona lost at home to Oregon
by LEastCoastBears on Jan 14, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions
Blowout City
Wow. The Patriots are laying it on the Broncos.
Let’s just hope if this game at Haas tonight turns out like that, Tedford will decide to finally put Bridgford in!
for the record, that’s not a knock on Maynard, but just a word to say I would have liked to see Bridgford in the USC and Utah blowouts.
…sorry, couldn’t refuse the pun.
I crack myself up.
A stream?
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He hates us less than he used to
Because he likes Monty.
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Dude...
You could have said “SPOILER ALERT” first.
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It looks like Cal is going to score more and Utah is going to score less than you predicted :)
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by atomsareenough on Jan 14, 2012 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
I miss Dick Solo on the tipoff
he always win the tip
by LEastCoastBears on Jan 14, 2012 7:37 PM PST reply actions
He'll be in there
I am really happy with what I’ve been seeing from Richard lately. Just body language and maturity. I think he’s going to come roaring back! I’ve never been as big a fan as I am now!
1st media timeout, 13:55 left in 1st half
9-7 Cal
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That was a bad looking trap. Gut broke it pretty easily.
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Crabbe needs to keep shooting, but gee whiz
He’s ice cold.
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GUTI
great pass and good hands by Kamp
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Kamp seems to be heating up
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I’m totes unimpressed with Utah so far. I’m wondering how they played Furd so close.
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Furd fans probably thinking the same thing about CoLOLrado/Cal
Cal
by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2012 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
Colorado kept it close against Furd today at the half
they only got blown out in the 2nd half
by LEastCoastBears on Jan 14, 2012 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for informing me. I, of course, did not watch a second of that game.
Cal
by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2012 8:00 PM PST up reply actions
thank you
and what’s her name is still super hot
you will get no such admission from me, sirrah!
Cal
by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2012 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
No
My New Year’s resolution was to have more sex.
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Does Mrs. Ohio Bear support this initiative?
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by atomsareenough on Jan 14, 2012 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think so.
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Then, best of luck to you.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 14, 2012 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
Cal on an 11-2 run
Cal leads 13-7 with 11:14 left in 1st half (the under 12 media timeout)
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Murray, present, for three
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Cal by 9, timeout Utah
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ALWAYS!
The next gen is going to be all non-tat. These things come and go. People with tats with look all old and frumpy.
Washburn looks terrible
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It feels like Utah has been stuck on 7 since the 49ers game ended
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He wants to steal Smith’s minutes.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 14, 2012 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
Murray, Present again
Offensive rebound and putback 20-7 Cal
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7:22 left in 1st half
Cal 20, Utah 7 at the under 8 media timeout
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LOL
Chalian is in, over 3 minutes left. :)
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by atomsareenough on Jan 14, 2012 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
He looked fine last week
When he had 26 pts and 12 rebs at Oregon
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THIS
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by atomsareenough on Jan 14, 2012 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
If Crabbe was shooting well
This game would really be over by now.
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The Utes have scored! The Utes have scored!
Oh my God!
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oooh, sweet left hander
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by AERose on Jan 14, 2012 8:02 PM PST via Android app reply actions
I recall him hitting one closer to the hoop
that was pretty far out, very nice smooth shot
I started watching late. I don’t even remember seeing Kravish.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 14, 2012 9:17 PM PST up reply actions
There's Crabbe
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24-8 Cal
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Utah can't be this bad all the time
They wouldn’t have ANY wins if they were, amirite?
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1st FG in, what -- 10 minutes?
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Sheesh
Cobbs has to hit that shot.
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I have a stupid question..
Why are there two 3pt lines? which one is the correct one? What is the other one for?
In other words, Go Bears!
they are have different size balls, at least the hoop is the same size
by LEastCoastBears on Jan 14, 2012 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
what’s the rule?
- of games or play during certain part of the year?
I think he came in too late into the season. But I don’t know.
Everyone on BI wrote like it was gone as soon as he checked in at the scorer’s table.
The last option is the correct one.
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Yes
He played in two games
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2:46 left in 1st half
26-10 Cal at the under 4 media timeout
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Bears shooting 12-27 44%, which is quite meh given the quality of shots we’re getting. If you’re going to be cold, might as well be now, I guess.
Ended the game hot!
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by atomsareenough on Jan 14, 2012 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
I can't get over how bad this Washburn big guy looks
He looks like he has very little skill.
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Back home in Sacto after the niners game.
Sounds like we’re taking care of business so far, and that it could’ve been worse. Roxy kept saying ‘in-and-out’ on various shots.
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at first I thought it was asshole but then I figured it was air-ball.
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by AERose on Jan 14, 2012 8:14 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Harper Kamp: having a pretty good night!
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It was fantastic."
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by AERose on Jan 14, 2012 8:35 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
We seem to have warmed up!
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It was fantastic."
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by AERose on Jan 14, 2012 8:38 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Gut is now 3 of 5 from the floor
And Utah appears to be giving him any outside shot he wants.
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New look Jorge this year.
He used to get technicals for pushing and stuff. I haven’t seen ONE “T” this year.
Earlier in this game, he grabbed on the ground for a loose ball. After the whistle, instead of smooshing his elbow into someone’s face while getting up, he raised his arms up and looked at the ref like, I’m cool. I’ve seen that many times, actually. New Jorge in that sense. Coach wants him to not foul out, wants his O and overall leadership. Stay cool and stay in the court and in the game. It’s a new look. Respectable. D is not as good, though. Trade offs…
And I repeat...
… Jorge is my PAC10 POY.
(Just pick up the scoring a bit to justify the selection is all I ask. Last game didn’t help that.)
I gotta believe Monty impressed upon him the need to keep cool and stay in games
Gutierrez is nothing if not coachable.
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I think part of that is that it’s possible that Utah won’t score 17 in the second half
by iheartmonty on Jan 14, 2012 8:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL Utah
That was one of the worst “try and get the last shot” possessions I’ve seen in a while.
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Timeout, Cal with 4.3 seconds left in half.
Set something up good, Monty
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Probably wants him to get 7 TDs passing.
Jorge Gutierrez is "The guy with the hair plays with the flair"
a bronco decided to start a figh
I hate the patriots but that was all on that one dude
Didn’t realize Chung was on the Pats. Just need him to get Marshawned again.
Jorge Gutierrez is "The guy with the hair plays with the flair"
von miller thought fighting 2 olinemen was a good idea.
by j.lee on Jan 14, 2012 8:22 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
It’s only a five possession game.
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OMG, Crabbe had a great look at a 3 at the buzzer
But missed.
32-15 Cal at halftime
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17 pt lead at the half
I feel like it should have been larger if we were able to hit some more open shots
by LEastCoastBears on Jan 14, 2012 8:16 PM PST reply actions
Utah defense
What the hell are they doing? They seem to be worried about dribble penetration or something. We seem to be able to get any shot we want from 15 feet out.
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brady punt to denver trying to fight.
by j.lee on Jan 14, 2012 8:18 PM PST via Android app reply actions
Thursday night I went to bed at half with Cal behind and we came back to win. Tonight we’re ahead at half. If I go to bed what are the chances we lose? Do I risk it?
5-HOUR ENERGY RIGHT NOW SON
Even thinking what you thought is unacceptable
Cal
by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2012 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
Announcers
Caution…Tebow is God so naysayers beware
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dude…the state of florida passed a law so tebow could play high school football…
yeah…he had to fight adversity from the beginning…
by j.lee on Jan 14, 2012 8:30 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
a joke they’re praising him after this game.
by j.lee on Jan 14, 2012 8:30 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
I like how Nantz acted like this was the first “the doubters” had reason to doubt Tebow’s QBing. I mean…last three games of the season ring a bell?
Cal
by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2012 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
He was actually well below league average even when they were winning, they were just hitting the good end of variance. Even last week, he made 3-4 throws to Thomas that he’s normally maybe 50-60% to hit…and if he misses any of them they probably lose, against a team that was playing half their second string.
oh I know...
I’m just talking about examples obvious to anyone
denver’s OL + above-average downfield passer = great success
Cal
by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2012 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
Giving Cobbs an open J at the FT line
Doesn’t seem like a good defensive strategy for the Utes. Just sayin’
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It's funny
Still think of J-rome as a much better 3 point shooter, but 58% is awfully nice for a jump shooter. Does anyone have access to his TS%?
Don't see any particular reason not to empty the bench.
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by AERose on Jan 14, 2012 8:40 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Bench serenading Jorge, nice.
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by AERose on Jan 14, 2012 8:57 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
15:54 left in the game
43-22 Cal at the under 16 media timeout
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Doom.
I just figured out that if Utah doubles their score for the game, and we don’t score a single point from here on out, we will lose by 1.
OT
Is there a chance Darron Thomas doesn’t end up on an NFL roster next year?
he would’ve been a fifth-year senior if he had stayed
Cal
by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2012 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
bryan bennett. meh, sure he’ll do well in the system
Cal
by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2012 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
What was that?
Bad advice? Agent money? Grade trouble? Afraid of competition in spring practice? Just general young and dumb?
just over school after 4 years? probably wants to take a stab at some money. i don’t think his ceiling is much higher than what he’s shown, so that last year won’t do him much good
Cal
by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2012 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
I want Cal to hold them under 40
Who’s with me?
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Isn’t good Utah basketball history Majerus and either Van Horn or Dolich? I don’t recall anything other than that.
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Andrew Bogut teams were really good
he was PotY too
Cal
by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2012 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
Absolutely. He wasn’t that good. Although Hu Weidong was good enough to play in the NBA (or make an NBA team at least) – but bad knees.
(Showing my age) What about Richard Chang? :)
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I think it was 25 of the last 15.
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Chalian is sort of our Asian walk-on this year :)
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by atomsareenough on Jan 14, 2012 9:46 PM PST up reply actions
Gut has 10 so far.
He should try for at least 5 more.
There will be garbage time, and I’d like to see him get 8 more!!!!!!!!!!
12:29 left. 47-27 Cal
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The night is young.
I’m sure we’ll still see him blow a defensive assignment or fumble a ball off his hands.
Old Toothwrangler
well
he does have a high basketball IQ!
Cal
by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2012 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
And he’s from Canada.
Every time they need Murray filler they talk about how he’s from Canada like that’s a point in his favor.
correction
ALL foreigners are skilled.
Cal
by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2012 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
got to wonder
how much PT he will get, when Brandon Smith is back
by LEastCoastBears on Jan 14, 2012 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
To be clear, I was making fun of Dan and I don’t think this team tells us anything about him improving or not. I doubt the guard rotation in competitive games changes much after Brandon gets healthy. (I’m talking about the level we were at when Justin got most of the PG minutes, and Brandon gave a blow to Justin, Jorge, and occasionally Allen.
that’s right.
Cobbs probably should have had it sooner. But, I will say this, Jimes Boy,
I do miss having Brandon available.
CT, So Do I
However, we need the Brandon of late last year, or even an improvement on that, given he is older, more experienced now. I hope he can figure out how to contribute better than he has up to this point in the season, whatever the reasons for it are.
Good that Murrray appears to be turning the corner to being a real help to the team (or am I wishfully thinking?).
I LOVED that move. Showed good footwork, good aggressiveness, and the finish.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 14, 2012 9:30 PM PST up reply actions
Timeout Utah, 9:20 left
Cal 56, Utah 29
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Oski has some sharp new threads tonight.
by Scootie on Jan 14, 2012 9:03 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
pics?
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by atomsareenough on Jan 14, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
she’s actually pretty plain as winners go… not that I would complain if you’re reading this, Miss Wisconsin!
Cal
by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2012 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
Bret Bielema is not that attractive.
by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2012 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
No it’s apparently just a personal pan pizza. Sorry class.
by Scootie on Jan 14, 2012 9:09 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Our announcers are really trying to welcome Utah to the conference.
Apparently, Larry Scott has won them over as well.
As a former bench player
I hated hated hated it when starters took shots during garbage time. (Cobbs)
I thought the same time - that Cobbs had Rossi open and that was forced.
Hell, pad Gut’s stats if you want to do that. He’s going for POY.
Wasn’t even a good shot.
My main issue with Justin is when he pulls up before the offense has any chance to run. He’s good at it, but there’s plenty of room for that late in the shot clock if the O breaks down.
Good point.
Tough line between being assertive and taking ill-advised early shots. I get the sense that he’d be shooting a lot more if not for Monty’s influence. Getting better, though.
Old Toothwrangler
lulz
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by atomsareenough on Jan 14, 2012 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
Barry thinks Rossi could be a contributor. Based on 1 college minute and 0 shots prior to his statement.
Based on his recruitment rating and reporting based on practice and talking to the coaches, more likely.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 14, 2012 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
I mean, I think there’s a reasonable chance he could contribute down the line, also, but I guarantee you Barry doesn’t know a damn thing about his high school career and recruitment. Nor has he had more than a passing discussion about how he’s practicing.
I should probably just not do this anymore…Dan and Barry are going to do what they do. They have for 30 years. My bad, just bored.
You really don’t think they do ANY research or even read a basic scouting report or “state of the team” report, or talk to any coaches before the game and just go into it completely cold? I’m sure they’re not as well-prepared as they should be, but that seems really unprofessional.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 14, 2012 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry, didn’t mean to initiate a whole thing. I like them, I really do. I’ve been listening to them as a team since I was like 15.
Oh, no… I’m not starting anything. I know fuck-all about these guys. It just didn’t seem THAT unreasonable that they knew about Rossi. I think they mentioned that he’d been injured and got healthy, so they seemed at least a little familiar with him.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 14, 2012 9:25 PM PST up reply actions
Old vets don't get into as much as younger guys. That is true.
And you have heard their schtick long enough to know it.
Madden and Summerall…. same thing. It happens to us all.
But these guys are still into and do a good job.
Try going to some hack and you’ll appreciate these guys!
I wish Steve Kerr would call one of our games (he does some Pac-12 work, mostly with Arizona hoops). He’s the best hoops analyst out there.
by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2012 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
er
Filley
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by atomsareenough on Jan 14, 2012 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
WE WANT WAFFLES!
you can hear the chant from the crowd
by LEastCoastBears on Jan 14, 2012 9:17 PM PST up reply actions
The game is on Root Sports NW. We need to find a stream somewhere.
by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2012 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
prd will come through
some way, somehow… prd will come through
Cal
by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2012 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
THREE CHEERS FOR PRD!
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by atomsareenough on Jan 14, 2012 9:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
PALMS OF VICTORY
Cal 81, Utah 45. Final.
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We outperformed kenpom's margin of victory by 9!
. . . Utah is bad.
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Yep. 3-1 or better and we should control our destiny.
by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2012 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
Go Bears!
off to the Washington schools next week follow by taking on Furd at home (for 1st place in conference?)
by LEastCoastBears on Jan 14, 2012 9:21 PM PST reply actions
wait
they are the “Utah Runnin’ Utes” rather than just “Utah Utes”???
by LEastCoastBears on Jan 14, 2012 9:23 PM PST reply actions
when I get my five daughters on the court for the first time,
we are going to call ourselves the Concord Running Tombos.
A Rossi Story:
I went to the open gym practice last year when Rossi was a true Frosh. Only time he’s played on the floor in front of a crowd, other than tonight. He shot the ball REALLY well. Smooth. Afterwards, I commented on this board that, hey, wasn’t Crabbe supposed to be the hot shot recruit on this team?
In other words, if you think Crabbe’s jumper is smooth, you ain’t seen nothing yet.
I’m REALLY looking forward to getting Rossi at full strength next season. At last.
Kreklow can also shoot. (I realize he shot poorly last year, but there’s evidence that will improve). And Cobbs is better than advertised. Crabbe, Cobbs, Kreklow, and hopefully a healthy Rossi. Shooting will not be a problem.
Getting to the hole and depth inside, with Jorge and Kamp leaving. But that’s getting way ahead of beating UW this week.
Am I Dreaming?
I thought that Rossi played a bit in the first exhibition game in 2010 and buried a 3, which I sort of remember was his only shot.
I am betting he will be a really important part of our team going forward this season and the following 3, if his health clears up.
Dude… Rossi’s shot is AWESOME. A la Crabbe last year. He needs to get his conditioning… Conditioned.
no bear, no care
by EchoOfSilence on Jan 14, 2012 9:28 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Better, Quicker Release
I think that Rossi not only has a really sweet outside shot, his release is quicker than Allen’s.
The game was such a blowout joke
that PRD left it on.
Usually he shuts it down as soon as the game is over. He must have moved on to something else at halftime.
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Golden Bears Football Schedule
| Fresno St. | Sat 09/03 | W 36 - 21 |
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Colorado
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Sat 09/10 | W 36 - 33 |
| Presbyterian | Sat 09/17 | W 63 - 12 |
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Washington
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Sat 09/24 | L 23 - 31 |
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Oregon
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Thu 10/06 | L 15 - 43 |
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USC
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Thu 10/13 | L 9 - 30 |
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Utah
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Sat 10/22 | W 34 - 10 |
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UCLA
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Sat 10/29 | L 14 - 31 |
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Washington St.
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Sat 11/05 | W 30 - 7 |
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Oregon St.
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Sat 11/12 | W 23 - 6 |
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Stanford
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Sat 11/19 | L 28 - 31 |
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Arizona St.
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Fri 11/25 | W 47 - 38 |
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Texas
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Wed 12/28 | L 10 - 21 |
