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Ask CGB - Forgive and Forget?

You know I just wanted to get that Rutgers highlight in there. From last week:

I inspired the nickname of the kicker who won this game.

The right answer?

Indeed it was! Now for this week's:

A rather prolific writer of short stories, I didn't actually finish my degree at Cal. But I did manage to finish a whole bunch of other stories that were made into big budget Hollywood movies starring the likes of Harrison Ford, the Governator, Tom Cruise, Ben Affleck, Peter Weller (who?) and Keanu Reeves. WHOA. Who am I?

Probably shouldn't be very difficult for any of you literary buffs out there. Let's get right into it.

FrankBear21 starts us off with a hypothetical:

If we beat Oregon is all forgotten?

Lets be honest.... stranger things have happened.

As for me, I would say yes. I'm a rather forgiving sort, and it's not like I was holding out hope that we were going to win the conference this year anyway. Though it would have been nice. Guys?

Kodiak: Yes.  Until we lose a game due to:

a)  Special teams errors
b)  Porous defense
c)  Controversial playcalling
d)  Some combination of all of the above.

CBKWit: Yes.  And I would change the question to "If we beat Oregon OR $C, is all forgotten?"

Star-divide

LafayetteBear brings the queries.

Is something up with Bigelow?

I watched 90% of last Saturday's game, but I don't recall seeing Bigelow get ANY carries from scrimmage. Or any screen passes.

I believe he was used exclusively as the kick returner. And he seemed remarkably tentative on kick returns. Showed no speed, and was easily tackled for the most part.

Did something happen with him that was not generally publicized? I hope he is still physically ok, and that worries about further injury are not holding him back. (Easy for me to say, harder for him to do, I realize.)

Assuming Bigelow's ready to go, I think JT must USE him.

Kick returns are far more dependent on blocking than you might think, so not showing any speed on a return probably has far more to do with a lack of holes to hit and lack of blocking. (Cue the inevitable special teams question - don't worry, we're getting to it.) 

And then of course, with the proper blocking, ANYONE can spring a big return.

As far as how to use him, we already have people clamoring for CJA and Dasarte Yarnway to get carries over Isi. I mean, even those loaded USC teams with six starting-caliber RBs only used a few each game. And we've never been a big screen team to begin with. Besides, there weren't very many carries to go around to begin with - perhaps if we hadn't gone so pass-wacky with the score relatively close in the fourth (again, another discussion), there would have been more carries going his way. And to those other aforementioned RBs.

Kodiak: UW's coverage team was very fast and aggressive.  I don't think Bigelow had anywhere to go on his returns.

Considering the weakness of the UW defense was their outside contain due to inexperienced OLBs, his speed might have been useful on pitch or outside zone plays.  I think the score dictated his lack of carries.  If we had been able to get up by a couple of touchdowns, the coaches would have been more comfortable giving him a series or two.  Our relatively poor starting field position on many drives might also have played a role.

Why did we accept the holding penalty?

In the first half, on third and 2, we stopped UW for a 1 yard game for 4-1 on their 40, but there was a holding call. For some reason we accepted the 10 yard penalty, they go on to get the first down and score.

Why the hell did we accept the penalty, Sark wasn't going to go for it then. Am I missing something....

p.s. Maynard is a gamer

I think it's really a close call there - that's more a hunch about how you think the other team will react than anything. I would think Sarkisian, with Polk in his backfield, is more apt than most teams to go for it on fourth and short. At least more likely to do so, than, say, our Bears. With Isi.

Basically...

Sure, this could happen. But then...

So could this.

Berkelium97: This one is simple math.  If we decline the penalty they have 4th and 1.  Do you think we prevent a one-yard gain from Chris Polk? I don't.  If we accept the penalty, it's 3rd and 12.  They now have to average 6 yards per play to convert instead of 1.  I have much more confidence that we can prevent 12 yards on two plays than we can prevent 1 yard on one play.

Kodiak: Dice roll.  The Cal coaches guessed that it would be harder for UW to make a third and long than a 4th and a foot.  I think Sark would have gone - Polk is a bruising runner running behind a big Oline.

CBKWit: This was a tough one to swallow.  We had just stuffed Polk on 3rd and 1, and the Huskies were around their 40 yard line in the second quarter.  Have to figure they will punt in that situation.

shawnxt asks something that I really don't like to bother thinking about.

Does loss @ UW have any effect on recruiting?

I heard that some of our recruits were at the Cal-UW (ie Shaq Thompson). Is that true? And will this be one of the deciding factors of whether they choose UW or Cal or some other school?

I'm going to say that while it probably has an effect, its likely to be so small it doesn't matter much. If a guy is really basing his decision on which school to go to based on how they performed during a campus visit, well, he's probably kinda flaky. There's so much more that goes into it that I can't believe that a loss would turn the tide. So while it probably doesn't help, I wouldn't lose much sleep over it either. Or you could just listen to what Kod says.

Kodiak: No.  Last year's strong recruiting class despite the subpar on-the-field product suggests that there are more factors going into recruiting than just W's and L's.  If anything, recruits might look at the number of young players who were getting a lot of snaps and see an opportunity for early playing time.

It feels like the more people learn about football, the less than they know, oobay.

Why are we passing to our RB's so much?

in critical situations? We're overthinking things. Just throw the rock up for KA and MJ.

Maybe because they're the ones that are open? Sounds like you're the one who's overthinking things. For a less vicious response, let's go to Kodiak.

Kodiak: UW switched up their coverages in the 2nd half to make it tougher to get to KA and Jones.  On one side, they would play tight press coverage which made it harder to complete anything quick.  On the other, they had their CB in zone and rolled either a safety over the top or a linebacker underneath.  In theory, Maynard could still try to force a throw to the covered receiver.  

The 3rd down go route to Deboskie-Johnson had been run successfully earlier in the game for a 3rd down conversion.  I think the Cal coaches liked the mis-match of a RB covered by a slower or less experienced OLB.  In this case, it was unsuccessful because it was UW's best LB (Dennison) who was in coverage.  I don't know if this was an adjustment by UW or not.  Perhaps a more experienced QB would have noted that this was no longer a mismatch and gone to a different receiver or tried to audible.  Maynard has already admitted that he runs what the coaches tell him.

The fourth down throw to Sofele was a solid playcall and not as bad a decision as I had initially thought.  Looking at the replay, the UW defender was playing well off the line and Sofele was open.  The other Cal receivers were either tightly covered or double covered.  KA might have eventually gotten free, but his route took longer to develop.  Maynard might have throw that ball a tick sooner, but it bounced off Sofele's shoulder before the defender made contact.  Should have been a pitch and catch for a first down.

It's a judgement call - go with the open receiver, or keep throwing to your best playmakers despite being doubled.  With a more accurate QB, we probably could have gotten away with continuing to feed the ball to KA/Jones no matter the coverage.  We had a 3 and out where we tried to force it to Jones/KA.  The next couple of series we tried to exploit mismatches or looser coverage on the backs.  And on the last drive we went back to throwing to our WRs.  

Though if there's one guy you can force it to...

Is there a way to not let a loss ruin your day?

See, every time we enter a Saturday with a losable game on schedule, I say to myself, "hey, a loss is practically expected here. We're not a great team, and this is a tough road environment..." or whatever the case may be. And I make peace with potentially losing... 

...Then the game starts.

I don't know if it's the way we lose or if its that, at some point in the game, I get my hopes up.

If you know the secret to this, also let me know how you enjoy a round of golf after that first quad bogey.  
Realize you have more going on in your life. Things happen. Move on. I mean, letting myself get down after every Nets loss during their epic 12-70 season would have killed me. So I made sport out of it. I inventing drinking games. (To play by myself. Since god knows no one else was going to the games with me.) I openly booed our own team. I embraced losing. I texted during games. I cheered for the t-shirt cannon. I became everything I hated about the sporting experience.

But losing doesn't bother me as much as it once did. So there's that. Move on, son. Move on.
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You forgot the “Old Blue” option of (paraphrasing Chinatown), “Forget about, Jake. It’s Cal.” In other words, to simply shrug and accept yet another in a seemingly endless series of spirt-crushing defeats as part and parcel of being a Cal fan.

Being an Old Blue means never accepting success.

by SoCal Oski on Sep 30, 2011 10:42 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm seeing a marriage counselor

My wife is also a Cal alum, but the highs & lows are presumably affecting my mood. I, of course, think I’m getting better at dealing with the lows, but she seems to have a different perception.

by cal85 on Sep 30, 2011 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Noah Cross = USC.

by Glanko on Sep 30, 2011 5:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it’s much more serious than that."

-Bill Shankly…

by Cal_Fan2 on Sep 30, 2011 10:46 AM PDT reply actions  

http://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/2011/9/30/2456270/ask-cgb-forgive-and-forget

I dont read any of the postgame stuff for a few days after a loss, but start revisiting them maybe around Tues or Wed. It doesn’t make me feel any better at all, but I start to accept it.

by JustBear on Sep 30, 2011 11:03 AM PDT reply actions  

fail

meant to block quote this:

I come to CGB for level-headed analysis and instantly feel better

by JustBear on Sep 30, 2011 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

*sigh*

Clamoring to give CJ and Bigs more carries at the goal line does not equal clamoring to give CJ and Bigs more carries. This is not a starting tailback controversy.

Too, very few people are suggesting that we throw to the wide receivers if they are double covered. They are suggesting that the wide receivers should be the first option. The pass to Isi was a good call only if he was not the first option.

by ososdeoro on Sep 30, 2011 11:08 AM PDT reply actions  

*sigh*

the pass to Isi was a good call because it hit him in the chest and would have been a first down.

by fiatlux on Sep 30, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's not a wide receiver.......

…..He’s a good receiver, but not as good as our wide receivers at catching the ball. If he were, he’d be one. The fact that he has been a wide receiver and is actually rather good at it means that if we did not incorporate him into our passing game, the coaches would be guilty of malpractice. That doesn’t mean that he should be the primary target on a critical fourth down when there are other, better players who actually are currently WRs out there on the field.

You say the call was a good call because it hit him in the chest. But in fact he dropped it, which calls into question whether someone else should have been the initial target. Isi should have been a safety valve on the play. You run the play we actually did on other downs.

by ososdeoro on Sep 30, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

But in fact he dropped it, which calls into question whether someone else should have been the initial target.

Well then, based on the very high number of drops they’ve had this year, does that mean that Marvin Jones, Keenan Allen, and Anthony Miller shouldn’t be thrown to?

California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!

by atomsareenough on Sep 30, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

honestly, what I think this means is you only like a play if it works. You acknowledge that he’s a good receiver. That it was a good throw. Etc. As far as I am concerned, all that makes this a good call that didn’t work.

by fiatlux on Sep 30, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

The question asked did ask why Bigelow didn’t get more touches. So that’s what I answered.

Proud to hold season tickets to the only NBA team owned by a Russian oligarch.

by yellow fever on Sep 30, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

And the way the wide receivers question was asked did frame it in a way that suggested that passes go to them regardless of whether or not they’re open, and that throwing to the RBs was somehow a conscientious move to ignore the receivers. By overthinking things, as it were.

Proud to hold season tickets to the only NBA team owned by a Russian oligarch.

by yellow fever on Sep 30, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isi Sofele

used to be a WR his freshman year

by JustBear on Sep 30, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is this a dental comment?
Besides, there weren’t very many carries to go around to begin with -

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Sep 30, 2011 11:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh, and, if game loss is messing up your Saturday, the obvious answer is..........wait for it......

                           play on Thursday…see you guys at Autzen. It shall rock.

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Sep 30, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

In response to Calcoholic's question

I try to do the same thing and it never works. The worst was Oregon last year. I was expecting a blowout, and I would’ve been ok with that. But then the game started, and against all odds we were so close! We had a chance to steal one, to play spoiler, and (among many other things) it came down to an unprecedented Tavecchio false start.

by SturdyGoldenBear on Sep 30, 2011 11:23 AM PDT reply actions  

True Story - Judge Ito

I had been living in Southern California about 3 months and was meeting some people for dinner in Pasadena. After dinner in downtown Pasadena for the life of me I could not find the Pasadena Freeway back to LA… So I see a couple walking and ask them how to get there… happens the guy was asian and the woman was white.. they were very nice but the guy gave me the most convoluted nonsensical directions… finally his wife totally cut him off and gave me easy, direct instructions. upon driving away I realized that was Judge Ito and his wife and I cracked up at how things never change.

by fiatlux on Sep 30, 2011 11:51 AM PDT reply actions  

BI post on Bigelo
Saw Bigelow today… – Yesterday, 06:08 PM
In case there’s any doubt about him being full speed yet, he told me that it’s still kind of hard to run with the brace on, but he’s working at it.

by SierraBear on Sep 30, 2011 12:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Not sure what that means. Does it mean he’s not at full speed yet, or that he is but is slowed down by the brace?

California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!

by atomsareenough on Sep 30, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

OMG

Can we add that LSU TE reverse play to the Cal playbook?!?!? Much want to see please thank you Teddy <3<3<3

California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!

by atomsareenough on Sep 30, 2011 1:21 PM PDT reply actions  

They executed that play so quickly, I had to replay it twice, just to figure out what happened.

by cal85 on Sep 30, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

philip k dick

Such great works, such terrible movie adaptations (other than Scanner Darkly and Blade Runner which are good, but can’t live up to the books). He must be having one tormented afterlife.

by Glanko on Sep 30, 2011 5:32 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

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