Cal Football At Bay Area Media Day: Keenan Allen On Defense?
John Breech of CBS Sports and Ryan Gorcey of Bear Territory were at Bay Area Media Day today, and Jeff Tedford was unusually talkative again. It's starting to freak me out how talkative he's been this year.
The biggest announcement came regarding Cal wide receiver Keenan Allen, who might very well be playing both ways this year. Tedford was open to the idea, although he made it clear it was just an idea. Frankly, Allen can play either wide receiver or defensive back at a high level. He could be really useful as an additional defensive back in nickel/dime packages. But I would be surprised if Allen plays any more than a handful of snaps at the position. It could very well depend on the opponent and whether Allen's all-around athleticism is needed. Robert Woods vs. Keenan Allen does have a bit of a ring to it.
After the jump, more news, including how many plays Tedford will call this year. And something about white helmets. I can't imagine you being interested in that.
- Tedford will call 75%-80% of the plays this year.
- Conjecture: Every fourth/fifth play will be taken out of a hat designed by the fans. I'm looking forward to the Flaming Dragon Fist formation and the triple backward pass.
- Defensive backs that could see early playing time at Cal: Avery Walls, Stefan McClure, Kameron Jackson, Joel Willis, Alex Logan, really, everyone might see a turn at defensive back this season. Looking forward to seeing Brock Mansion back at cornerback and trucking a Presbyterian wideout.
- Conjecture: We're really concerned about pass defenses in the Pac-10 if all of these defensive backs (plus Allen) are in the mix. It makes sense, because our pass defense was shredded against USC and the Furd, and both Matt Barkley and Andrew Luck are back.
- Walls isn't the only freshman defender that could see early playing time. Tedford also mentioned Todd Barr, Jason Gibson and Brennan Scarlett as candidates for early PT.
- Conjecture: Our defensive recruiting class was really, really good. It also reinforces how crucial it is for the defense to be cycling in new players, similar to the way Lupoi runs the defensive line. To go two-deep at every position on defense is a luxury that only USC and most recently Oregon have been able to afford. I'm not sure if there's a spot for Barr in the two deep right now with the defensive line so deep, but Gibson and Scarlett could try and penetrate their way into the linebacking corps (where depth is uneven).
- Spencer Ladner continues to get hurt, and it continues to suck that he gets hurt. He'll be back past the midway point of training camp at the earliest.
- Conjecture: I guess Norse Gods do have a streak of mortality to them.
- Vei Moala is ready to play physically, but needs to trim down a bit and catch up mentally.
- Conjecture: Vei Moala is not ready to play outside of garbage time. Lupoi loved his three nose tackle rotation last season, I can see him going back to it this season. Expect Aaron Tipoti to start.
- C.J. Anderson finished catching up his schoolwork and will be on the field at the start of camp Saturday.
- Conjecture: Unless Anderson is a gamebreaker, I suspect he'll need time to acclimate himself. This could very well be J.J. Arrington 2.0 down to the letter--he might not find his groove until midway through the season and assert himself then.
- Isi Sofele and walk-on Mike Manuel were the favorites coming out of spring camp to start at running back.
- Conjecture: Not a good sign for Debo if he's getting beat out by a walk-on.
- Tedford wants to play the Pac-12 title site at a neutral site, like San Diego.
- Conjecture: Tedford must enjoy playing in half-empty stadiums.
- Mitchell Schwartz says guard Geoffrey Gibson has trimmed down 25 pounds from 340 to 315.
- Conjecture: Watch out Justin Cheadle, the big man from Bishop Gorman is coming for your job.
- We're probably wearing white helmets once this year.
- Conjecture: Commence freakout of alumni.
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about who this “Avinash Kunnath” character is and what he’s done with Avinash.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
Exactly. At least he’s not doing DBD’s. Sheesh
no bear, no care
by EchoOfSilence on Aug 1, 2011 9:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I hope we debut some new uniforms to go with the new helmets
I’ve never been a fan of the current uniforms and we’re going into the fourth season of wearing them. It seems like a new set of uniforms is due sometime within the next year.
"Some people watch adult videos on their computer - I go to YouTube and watch Jahvid Best highlight clips. That’s what gets me going."- Jim Schwartz, Detroit Lions head coach
Why didn't we talk about Keenan Allen at DB last year?
What happened to the Champ Bailey/Charles Woodson two-way player? Allen proved he was a top prospect at both positions. It would be good for Cal, and good for Allen’s career and national recognition as on of the few (or only?) two way players still around. Tedford wasted a year “thinking about it” and hopefully Allen, if Tedford chooses to do the smart thing and play him as a nickel DB, isn’t too rusty out there as a safety.
I’m sure there wasn’t a single good reason not to play Keenan Allen two ways last year. Not even one. Tedford is clearly just putzing around out there.
Sheesh.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
by AERose on Aug 2, 2011 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Tedford went on the record stating that he didn’t want Allen playing on defense last year because he wanted Allen to concentrate on learning the offense first. Tedford certainly wasn’t just “thinking about it” for a whole year and couldn’t make up his mind.
Furthermore, Tedford has talked extensively about the effect that playing multiple positions has on players. I guess you missed those quotes. In summary, he’s talked about how playing on both sides of the ball can be tiring for the player and you have to monitor their reps to make sure they aren’t getting gassed. And of course, if the player becomes gassed from playing their secondary position, then they can’t play their primary position as well, which means they have to sit out plays and rest which takes them out of the game.
Bottom line, there was PLENTY of talk about Allen at DB last year but you apparently just missed it all.
by HydroTech on Aug 2, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
To be fair, it wasn’t like the offense was on the field that much last year so he wouldn’t have been that tired… :)
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To be fair, he pretty much played QB for most of the UW game, so thats a different position right there!
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Than I guess that is what conditioning is for. It’s not like asking a guy to play QB and WR at the same time; a precedent has been set by great athletes. Woodson and Bailey were All-American cornerbacks while being difference makers at the WR position at times. If Tedford is concerned over “gassing” Allen, he better get him on that ultimate training routine. If Tedford poses the conditioning question as an excuse not to play Allen two ways, then I simply find that inadequate.
You find it inadequate that Keenan Allen might not be ready, mentally or physically, to take on a similar burden to two of the greatest defensive backs of the last 25 years.
I say again: sheesh.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
haha this.
I don’t see how throwing him in waaaay over his head last year would be beneficial to either his offensive or defensive growth and production. I’m all for having him play both ways in the future, but the kid was on campus for how many weeks before starting on the offense? And salary_cap wanted him to also pick up the defense that was being installed for the first time under Clancy last year?
I agree he is a great talent, but lets make sure our players are fully prepared before throwing them into the fire a la Syd’Quan vs. Robert Meechum in Knoxville
"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"
The whole Syd vs. Meechum in Tennessee is way overblown. Most people seem to think Syd wasn’t prepared, and that’s far from the truth. The reality of the situation is that Syd was playing the game with a cast on one hand which prevented him from fully being able to tackle. Syd actually really didn’t get beat that bad in those games; he was just missing tackles. Go back and watch the film. You’ll see the issue wasn’t his pass defense skills but merely his tackling ability due to the cast.
just saying conditioning isn’t a valid or honest excuse. The fact that he was a freshman and Cal kind of sucked, is.
You have two examples out of how many great players that have come through college football over that same time period? With how exceptionally rare it is for a guy to play two ways, that doesn’t suggest to you that it really is an issue and a difficult thing?
by Missing Barry on Aug 2, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd LOVE to see him lay some hurt on someone
ANYone….who’s last name is Luck.
I say, if he WANTS to play the position (and can earn the time over Avery Walls) turn him loose. He scores TDs every which way on offense; maybe he can do the same on defense.
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
Too bad about Tiny
I was hoping to see him make a meaningful impact this year. Then again, D Line is not an area we need the immediate support so this is probably best.

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