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Cal Football At Bay Area Media Day: Keenan Allen On Defense?

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John Breech of CBS Sports and Ryan Gorcey of Bear Territory were at Bay Area Media Day today, and Jeff Tedford was unusually talkative again. It's starting to freak me out how talkative he's been this year.

The biggest announcement came regarding Cal wide receiver Keenan Allen, who might very well be playing both ways this year. Tedford was open to the idea, although he made it clear it was just an idea. Frankly, Allen can play either wide receiver or defensive back at a high level. He could be really useful as an additional defensive back in nickel/dime packages. But I would be surprised if Allen plays any more than a handful of snaps at the position. It could very well depend on the opponent and whether Allen's all-around athleticism is needed. Robert Woods vs. Keenan Allen does have a bit of a ring to it.

After the jump, more news, including how many plays Tedford will call this year. And something about white helmets. I can't imagine you being interested in that. 

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When are we going to hear from Clancy?

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by EchoOfSilence on Aug 1, 2011 7:40 PM PDT reply actions  

about who this “Avinash Kunnath” character is and what he’s done with Avinash.

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by AERose on Aug 1, 2011 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly. At least he’s not doing DBD’s. Sheesh

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by EchoOfSilence on Aug 1, 2011 9:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I hope we debut some new uniforms to go with the new helmets

I’ve never been a fan of the current uniforms and we’re going into the fourth season of wearing them. It seems like a new set of uniforms is due sometime within the next year.

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by Berkelium97 on Aug 1, 2011 8:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Really? I like them quite a bit. There wasn’t anything wrong with our old unis, but now we’ve been wearing them for a couple of years I’m sorta attached to them.

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by Cugel on Aug 2, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

"put a sock in it Mister.....

….none of this white helmet shit again"……….

by Cal_Fan2 on Aug 1, 2011 9:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Why didn't we talk about Keenan Allen at DB last year?

What happened to the Champ Bailey/Charles Woodson two-way player? Allen proved he was a top prospect at both positions. It would be good for Cal, and good for Allen’s career and national recognition as on of the few (or only?) two way players still around. Tedford wasted a year “thinking about it” and hopefully Allen, if Tedford chooses to do the smart thing and play him as a nickel DB, isn’t too rusty out there as a safety.

by salary_cap on Aug 1, 2011 11:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Tedford went on the record stating that he didn’t want Allen playing on defense last year because he wanted Allen to concentrate on learning the offense first. Tedford certainly wasn’t just “thinking about it” for a whole year and couldn’t make up his mind.

Furthermore, Tedford has talked extensively about the effect that playing multiple positions has on players. I guess you missed those quotes. In summary, he’s talked about how playing on both sides of the ball can be tiring for the player and you have to monitor their reps to make sure they aren’t getting gassed. And of course, if the player becomes gassed from playing their secondary position, then they can’t play their primary position as well, which means they have to sit out plays and rest which takes them out of the game.

Bottom line, there was PLENTY of talk about Allen at DB last year but you apparently just missed it all.

by HydroTech on Aug 2, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

To be fair, it wasn’t like the offense was on the field that much last year so he wouldn’t have been that tired… :)

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by since1997 on Aug 2, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair, he pretty much played QB for most of the UW game, so thats a different position right there!

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by TwistNHook on Aug 2, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh well played!

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by Kodiak on Aug 2, 2011 12:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Than I guess that is what conditioning is for. It’s not like asking a guy to play QB and WR at the same time; a precedent has been set by great athletes. Woodson and Bailey were All-American cornerbacks while being difference makers at the WR position at times. If Tedford is concerned over “gassing” Allen, he better get him on that ultimate training routine. If Tedford poses the conditioning question as an excuse not to play Allen two ways, then I simply find that inadequate.

by salary_cap on Aug 2, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

You find it inadequate that Keenan Allen might not be ready, mentally or physically, to take on a similar burden to two of the greatest defensive backs of the last 25 years.

I say again: sheesh.

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It was fantastic."
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by AERose on Aug 2, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha this.

I don’t see how throwing him in waaaay over his head last year would be beneficial to either his offensive or defensive growth and production. I’m all for having him play both ways in the future, but the kid was on campus for how many weeks before starting on the offense? And salary_cap wanted him to also pick up the defense that was being installed for the first time under Clancy last year?

I agree he is a great talent, but lets make sure our players are fully prepared before throwing them into the fire a la Syd’Quan vs. Robert Meechum in Knoxville

"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"

by CruzinBears on Aug 2, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

The whole Syd vs. Meechum in Tennessee is way overblown. Most people seem to think Syd wasn’t prepared, and that’s far from the truth. The reality of the situation is that Syd was playing the game with a cast on one hand which prevented him from fully being able to tackle. Syd actually really didn’t get beat that bad in those games; he was just missing tackles. Go back and watch the film. You’ll see the issue wasn’t his pass defense skills but merely his tackling ability due to the cast.

by HydroTech on Aug 3, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree but I think that he tried to jump some routes too and was a bit late….not bashing him at all. More inexperience then lack of skill…

by Cal_Fan2 on Aug 3, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

just saying conditioning isn’t a valid or honest excuse. The fact that he was a freshman and Cal kind of sucked, is.

by salary_cap on Aug 2, 2011 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well what about Tedford saying he also wanted Allen to learn the offense first? Is that a valid excuse?

by HydroTech on Aug 3, 2011 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is absolutely NOT a valid excuse. Winning football games is much more conducive when you have players running around like turkeys with their heads cut off for the sake of making an argument.

by Cali49a on Aug 3, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

You have two examples out of how many great players that have come through college football over that same time period? With how exceptionally rare it is for a guy to play two ways, that doesn’t suggest to you that it really is an issue and a difficult thing?

by Missing Barry on Aug 2, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it is a difficult thing, then why are you holding it against Tedford that Allen didn’t play both ways?

by HydroTech on Aug 3, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Armchair quarterbacking is F-U-N!!!

by Cali49a on Aug 3, 2011 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wish Allen would have played safety, then we could have moved that no-name All Pac-10 scrub Chris Conte to the bench, where he belongs!

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by chowder on Aug 3, 2011 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd LOVE to see him lay some hurt on someone

ANYone….who’s last name is Luck.

I say, if he WANTS to play the position (and can earn the time over Avery Walls) turn him loose. He scores TDs every which way on offense; maybe he can do the same on defense.

I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.

by BTown85 on Aug 2, 2011 9:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Deltha O’Neal, 2.0!

by Missing Barry on Aug 2, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Too bad about Tiny

I was hoping to see him make a meaningful impact this year. Then again, D Line is not an area we need the immediate support so this is probably best.

by The Red Mamba on Aug 2, 2011 11:37 AM PDT reply actions  

It depends on how quick he picks up the defense and how in shape he can get in the next 4-6 weeks… We may see him earn more and more playing time throughout the year

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by CruzinBears on Aug 2, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

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