Golden Nuggets: NLCS Could Move Cal-USC Game to Candlestick or Oakland Coliseum

by Berkelium97 on Jul 28, 2011 3:30 PM PDT in Golden Nuggets

If the San Francisco Giants go on another deep playoff run, the Cal-USC game could be moved to another location. Tedford spoke about the issue at today's NYC Pac-12 Media Day.

"If the Giants go deep into the playoffs," Cal coach Jeff Tedford told me Thursday on the ESPNU College Football Podcast, "there could be a couple of games there that could overlap. That would be an interesting problem to have at that point.

Actually, the USC game is the only one at issue, thanks to the stylings of Milwaukee first baseman Prince Fielder. Utah is scheduled to play at Cal on Saturday, Oct. 22. That’s the day of Game 3 of the World Series. Since the National League, fueled by Fielder’s three-run homer, won the All-Star Game, 5-1, Game 3 will be played in the park of the American League champion.

"We are currently working with all of the alternative facilities (Candlestick Park and Oakland Coliseum) to secure a backup in case of a conflict," Cal athletic director Sandy Barbour said in an email reply.
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The site of the NLCS games won’t be known until the two teams are determined, because home-field advantage is based on regular-season records. So Cal must prepare a contingency. It would make Tedford’s life easier if the Giants failed to hold their three-game lead over Arizona, right? Tedford all but blanched.

"No, no, no," he said. "I am actually a Giant fan, so no, I do not root against them. I’m happy when they’re successful because that puts everybody in a good mood in the Bay Area."

After the jump several Bears join the NFL as free agents, the Pac-12 announces seven new networks, and everyone and their mothers report from the Pac-12 Media Tour. Whatabonanza!

Football

Darian Hagan is teaming up with Alex Mack and the Cleveland Browns.
Jeremy Ross joins Shane Vereen in New England while Donovan Edwards goes across the Bay to the 49ers.
Ted Miller has a list of all the Pac-12's free agent signings: Derrick Hill has joined the Ravens.
The Bears were picked to finish 5th in the Pac-12 North this season.
Cal Sports Digest has video of the Cal press conference during media day.
Uncle Ted post his Pac-12 Media Day Wrap-Up: the Cal portion focuses on the Tedford-Lyles relationship (or lack thereof).
Wilner posts his Media Day notes. Why are no one's Media Day stories as comprehensive CGB's? Twist, I demand a raise!
Ryan Gorcey has the best and most comprehensive coverage of Tuesday's Media Day.
JO recently toured the SAHPC and has some new details on the layout.
The Pac-12 has launched not one, but seven national television networks. Each geographic pair of teams has its own network in addition to the conference's overall network. They will be available nationwide next August.
Wilner has more details on the network: over 500 Olympic sporting events will be televised each year among the regional networks, in addition to coverage of every single football and men's basketball game. Although the existing partnership is with Time Warner, Cox, Bright House, and Comcast, Scott is still negotiating with telephone and satellite providers in an attempt to bring them aboard. With the four partners, the television network covers 40 million of the nation's 100 million households.

Basketball

Theo Robertson has been hired by the Pac-12 as an administrative fellow for the 2011-12 season. He was working at the West Coast Pac-12 Media Day.

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My money back

If Cal plays at a non-AT&T Park for those games I want some of my money back. Not cool.

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by PlayClassyBears on Jul 28, 2011 3:53 PM PDT reply actions

I would assume in the event of a location change your current season ticket would still be valid at the alternate park.

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by CruzinBears on Jul 28, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions

It's much more convenient for me to get to AT&T than Candlestick or the Coliseum (or even CMS)

and I was particularly looking forward to playing USC at AT&T. But, it is a unique situation, with CMS under construction, that our home games are at AT&T at all – so if the home team Giants need their stadium back in their attempt to keep the NL pennant, I’m okay with it. Nothing the Athletic Department can do about that, and it was a contingency that they were aware of when they inked the deal to play at AT&T (and that ESPN knew was a possibility in scheduling that game). I just hope the AD does what it can to minimize the impact on the fans.

by oskiwow on Jul 28, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions

and tbf, the Giants aren’t going to go that far again this year… so whatevs

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by CruzinBears on Jul 28, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions

We'll see if you feel the same way in October as you do now.

I would never doubt the mental toughness of the Giants.

They believe that they can hold a one-run lead and they believe that they can come back from 4 runs down.

But, to be fair, I’d be less than happy if the USC game had to be moved from AT&T. What a logistical nightmare!

by FiatSlug on Jul 28, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions

Re: Pac-12 Network(s)

If I understand the deal correctly, the Pac-12 network will consist of one “mother channel” and six children, broken up into regions.

The “mother” will show the big matchups, etc. while the children will show almost blanket coverage of the local teams (UW & Wazzu for Washington, Cal-furd for the bay, U$C and Ucla for SoCal, etc).

Fine.

So, how is this radically different from the system today? Fox Sports LA covers a lot of Ucla-$C stuff, while FSBA shows Cal & furd. I can get FSBA if I shell out bucks.

Am I missing something here, or is this just meeting the new boss, who is the same as the old boss?

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by SoCal Oski on Jul 28, 2011 4:01 PM PDT reply actions

We get the profit not FSN? also don’t have to share it with other local sports teams or even regional ones (sometimes Cal games would be bumped off CSNBA in favor of Big 12 matchups to CSNCA. So…more individual programming for local schools?

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by Joe Bandsmen on Jul 28, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions

Sure, your points are great for the conference, but being selfish for a moment, there is no difference for me.

Look, I’m all for the national network and the added exposure/revenue. That’s great. But it seems like the amount of congratulations, hype, and back-patting is disproportionate to what was really achieved. Because in the end, Cal alums in SoCal, Phoenix, or Seattle won’t get to see all they want unless they pay extra.

Just my $.02

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by SoCal Oski on Jul 28, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions

Then you haven't been reading closely enough

The P12 “mother” network will distribute all football and men’s basketball games nationwide. All this national programming will also be distributed to all the “children” networks, so barring overlap of games on the network, Cal football has a good shot at being nationally televised (and at least televised in the Pac-12 markets) all 12 regular season games.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 28, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions

Wilner had a good update on this..

Regardless of which regional network you receive, everyone will have the same core 350 events:

All football games (that aren’t on Fox or ESPN).
All men’s basketball games (that aren’t on Fox or ESPN).
40 women’s basketball games.
Best-of-the-best Olympic sports.
All spring football games.

Once you get to event No. 351, everything gets separated by region.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2011/07/28/pac-12-tv-network-additional-details-from-commissioner-larry-scott/

by Cal_Fan2 on Jul 28, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

Take Aways

The Wilner post is actually REALLY quite pithy. There is a LOT in there worth reading. Probably worth its own analysis post. Which I would do, but am gearing up for my post on my SAHPC tour tomorrow.

Big take aways:

1) Will make money right away—-CHACHING!
2) WON’T Raid the $3B pot from ESPN/Fox—Phew! I wrote this might be a possibility if the Pac-12 went solo back when the deal was announced.
3) Satellite is a priority, just gotta get the deals done (Trust in Scott here—distribution is priority not money so if the companies are reasonable it’ll get done—this is why rights retention was SO important).
4) Out of region networks might be available only on sports tier—can’t say I’m surprised. This shouldn’t matter for football.
5) All football games nationally televised. This means they will staggered slots throughout the day. Prepare for more night games—Avi wrote about this awhile back. I think this is also the impetus for more Friday and Thursday games to avoid double-bookings. Good thing we have ESPN/Fox too though. This means there could be as many as three Pac-12 games on at the same time on a Saturday. But probably more like two tops. Out of Conference game scheduling will be a nightmare. Expect weekly 8pm games.

Say it like Ron Burgandy signing off: "Stay Classy, Bears!"

by PlayClassyBears on Jul 28, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Okay, gotcha. It seems I just wasn’t fully informed about this. If the mother network will make every game available regardless of location, it definitely is a plus.

The regional thing is still a bit of a pill, just not as big.

Thanks for the clarification, guys.

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by SoCal Oski on Jul 28, 2011 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions

Think of the regional thing as those extra games in the Olympic sports that will be biased towards Cal and Furd. Do you really want to see UCLA Lacrosse over Cal’s Women Tennis?

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by PlayClassyBears on Jul 28, 2011 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions

And remember that Cal will take on UCLA and USC in all these sports, so the Pac12 LA people will get a chance to see some of the sports in the local package. Much, much, much MUCH more than how it exists right now.

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by TwistNHook on Jul 28, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions

It’s unclear how much will change for West Coast people outside the Bay Area. For those in the rest of the nation, however, who do not get Fox Sports West/Comcast California/etc, the Pac-12 Network provides much more exposure.

What would be great is if the regional channels were available online or on tv outside the region (ie be able to watch Pac-12 Bay Area anywhere in the country).

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by Berkelium97 on Jul 28, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions

What would be great is if the regional channels were available online or on tv outside the region (ie be able to watch Pac-12 Bay Area anywhere in the country).

I think that is one of the things they are still negotiating with others.

As far as how much will change for people outside the bay, I think that there will not be a huge change for football (except maybe less channel surfing to find it), but HUGE changes for basketball and every other sport we play.

for example: I fully expect that there will be a tremendous amount of volleyball and waterpolo on during the week in the fall on the Pac12BA. like esentially a doubleheader with both cal and stanfurd games each day they both play.

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by Rocksanddirt on Jul 28, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Really?

I don’t expect this at all. If you look at the actual volume of events they are televising, it’s not nearly what I would have expected. Each regional network will televise 450 events in addition to the national package. If you add up the games/matches that Cal sports teams alone play, removing the three “required sports” for the national network and assuming cross country and golf won’t be televised because of their somewhat hard-to-televise formats, we have 400 games all by ourselves. Considering that we have to share our network with a school that has 50% more sports than we have (and therefore assuming they must play well in excess of 500 games/year), we won’t see a lot (meaning we will see a lot, but there’s a lot we won’t see). And we really won’t see them live — water polo, for example, is played on football Saturdays, so I don’t expect to see it live EVER.

by Scootie on Jul 28, 2011 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Better to see it tape-delayed

Than not to see it all.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 28, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions

And compared to today’s 0 weekly televised games, anything and everything will be a step up

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by TwistNHook on Jul 29, 2011 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions

Well, for one thing, this new boss will have waaaaay more Cal related content than the old boss. So it might be true that out-of-market Cal fans will have to pay a premium price for this new content, but at least it would actually be something you never had the chance to get before.

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by norcalnick on Jul 28, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions

Praying for Giant failure.

by j.lee on Jul 28, 2011 6:14 PM PDT reply actions

I’d do that regardless of its impact on Cal.

by LeonPowe on Jul 28, 2011 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions

Nope

Keeping January 2 open. You know, just in case.
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by Ohio Bear on Jul 28, 2011 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Maybe vintage, but I hadn't seen it discussed here

Did anyone notice that on Cal’s spring roster, Keenan Allen is listed as—

WR/RET/DB

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by Ohio Bear on Jul 28, 2011 8:07 PM PDT reply actions

They're missing

QB/LB/DL/OL/FB/TB/K/P/LS

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by Berkelium97 on Jul 28, 2011 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions

It's gotta be less than a 25% chance that the Giants interfere with the USC game

(Assuming it’s given that the Giants make the playoffs, which obviously isn’t the case)

~50/50 chance the Giants win in the first round
~50/50 chance the Giants are hosting a game that day rather than on the road (ignoring off days)

Add it all up and at best there’s a 20% chance poor Sandy has to scramble for an alternative.

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by norcalnick on Jul 28, 2011 9:11 PM PDT reply actions

this is Cal football we’re talking about. i think that 20% rounds up to 100%

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by boomtho on Jul 28, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Im already mad at the Giants for doing this to me. First, driving the As out of the Bay and now this!

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by TwistNHook on Jul 28, 2011 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions

“No, no, no,” he said. “I am actually a Giant fan, so no, I do not root against them. I’m happy when they’re successful because that puts everybody in a good mood in the Bay Area.”

Obviously, JT hasn’t been to an A’s game recently.

by sycasey on Jul 28, 2011 11:37 PM PDT reply actions

Neither have the vast majority of A’s fans OH BURN.

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by AERose on Jul 29, 2011 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions

Oh noes, not an attendance joke!!!!

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by CruzinBears on Jul 29, 2011 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions

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