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A Preliminary, Preseason Pac-12 Media Poll

Who will battle the Ducks for all the Tostitos in this season's Pac-12 Championship Game?

The inaugural Pac-12 Media Day is coming up, a welcome reminder that the long offseason has only six weeks left.  One of the traditions during media day is the unveiling of the preseason media poll.  Since we will not know the official results of the poll until next Tuesday, we at CGB decided to put together a preseason poll of our own.  Several of us mods made an assortment of predictions about the first ever Pac-12 season, and below we have our results.

First up we have our mock poll, where we ranked teams from first to last for each division.  First place teams earned 6 points, second place earned 5 points, and so on to last place, who earns a single point.  Below I have tallied up the results of our ballots, with the number in parentheses indicating the number of first place votes.

Pac-12 North

  1. Oregon, 47 (7)
  2. Stanford, 38 (1)
  3. California, 32
  4. Washington, 24
  5. Oregon State, 16
  6. Washington State, 11

Predictably enough, we expect Oregon to win the North.  Whether they will be eligible for the championship game and potentially the Rose Bowl remains to be seen...We were nearly unanimous in our votes for Oregon, though I will let the lone abstainer (who voted for Stanford, of all teams!) to remain anonymous.  Cal comes in third, followed by the Huskies, a surprisingly low Oregon State, and those lovable last-place finishers up in Pullman.   The point differentials between each team indicate that there is a pretty clear hierarchy here. 

Who will win the South and face Oregon championship game?  Our Pac-12 South poll is after the jump as well as out thoughts on who will win the championship game, who will be the biggest surprise, and who will be the biggest disappointment this season.

Star-divide

 

Pac-12 South

  1. USC, 44 (5)
  2. Utah, 40 (2)
  3. Arizona State, 33 (1)
  4. Arizona, 26
  5. Colorado, 17
  6. UCLA, 8

Here the results were a bit more varied, though we're pretty sure who the bottom two teams will be this year.  In fact, our only unanimous vote was that UCLA would finish last!  Do not be surprised if this is Neuheisel's last season in Westwood.  We expect USC and Utah to be the strongest competitors for the South title, though ASU has an outside shot at winning it.  Of course, USC's bowl ban includes the championship game, which means we might see an Oregon-Utah matchup in the first ever Pac-12 Championship Game.

 

Who will win the conference championship game?

norcalnick: Oregon

atomsareenough: Oregon

Berkelium97: Oregon--easily

Kodiak: Utah.  Only because I can't stand predicting that it will be the Ducks, furds, or 'sc.

Yellow Fever: Oregon.  Though if this whole Willie Lyles thing explodes, it wouldn't surprise me to see Utah heading to another BCS game.

HydroTech: Oregon

Ohio Bear: Oregon

Avinash: Furd. They have the best signal-caller in the nation. Their defense will suck, so they'll likely lose a few games, but Andrew Luck probably earns them eight wins with the talent they have, and they'll only need a win over Oregon to roll on (no way they lose to whatever pitiful Pac-12 South team stands in their way).

It looks like Puddles and the rest of the Ducks will once again march down Colorado Ave on New Year's Day.  Better them than the Lobsterbacks.

 

Who will be this season's biggest surprise?

norcalnick: Either Utah, for winning a weak, injury and sanction ravaged Pac-12 South in their first year in the conference, or Washington St. for finishing above somebody in the standings.

atomsareenough: I'd say ASU for living up to the hype or Cal for rebounding from 5-7 to an 8-4 record. Maybe UCLA for being terrible.

Berkelium97: This is tough.  I think it's going to be a rough year this year.  I expect several teams to regress this year (UW, Oregon State, Stanford, Arizona, ASU).  The biggest surprise will be whoever can take advantage of these teams.  I'd tab Cal or Utah as one of the top candidates to kick those teams when they're down.

Kodiak: Cal...for the first time in years we won't under-perform relative to pre-season expectations.

Yellow Fever: The cratering of the Stanfurd offense after the departure of Jim Harbaugh.  And thank god for that.

HydroTech: Utah.  The former Mountain West team will put up a good showing against its new Pac-10 brethren.  

Ohio Bear: Zach Maynard

Avinash: Back to parity. Despite having two BCS teams last season, I doubt any team in the Pac-12 will win ten games next year. My standings from 1st to 4th generally don't reflect any more than a game or two of win-loss differential.

We are not pumping much sunshine for the conference this season, which leads us into our next topic.

 

Who will be this season's biggest disappointment?

norcalnick: Arizona St. and Oregon St.  I just don't see enough offense for Arizona St. to live up to their vaguely lofty pre-season expectations, particularly after potentially losing stud cornerback Omar Bolden to a knee injury.  And it's not like Dennis Erikson has done much in Tempe to make me give him the benefit of the doubt.

atomsareenough: UCLA, and Neuheisel will be gone as a result. Also, I'm sure Andrew Luck didn't come back to the Farm for another year hoping to finish 9-3. Probably a 4th place divisional finish for Arizona with Nick Foles will also be considered a disappointment.

Berkelium97: ASU.  Except for the '07 team, Erickson's teams have been continually disappointing. I don't see this ASU having enough offense to challenge for the Pac-12 South crown.  I am not even certain that they will finish in the top half of their division.  Osweiler showed promise last season, but at some point his stats have to regress to the mean, a la Riley in '08 and '09 after the brilliant '07 debut.

Kodiak:  Cal.  Because we'll have to wait one more year for roses..

Yellow Fever: Oregon State.  Because...I don't know, it felt right.

HydroTech: Colorado.  The once proud and prestigious Big-12 school will get pounded left and right in its first year as a Pac-12 member.

Ohio Bear: Utah.  The transition to the Pac-12 will not be seamless. 

Avinash: The putrid Pac-12 South. I'd be surprised if any team wins nine or more games next year.

The battle for the Pac-12 South title is a pillowfight we all look forward to watching!

 

Any final thoughts?

norcalnick: I'd be surprised if Oregon and Stanford don't finish 1st/2nd in some order, if Cal and Washington don't finish 3rd/4th in some order, and if WSU and OSU aren't in 5th/6th in some order.  The south is much more muddled, with the top four teams (Arizona, Arizona St., USC and Utah) all having a shot with Colorado and UCLA bringing up the rear.

 It will be interesting to see how unbalanced schedules impact the final standings.  Utah is the only school that avoids both Oregon and Stanford.  Stanford and Oregon have identical schedules except the Cardinal take on UCLA rather than Arizona St.  Washington St. avoids both USC and Arizona, which might help their slow rebuilding project.

atomsareenough: Maynard will be good. Chip Kelly will still be annoying. We will finally beat Oregon State. I don't know why I am feeling so optimistic.

Berkelium97: As I've said, I am not pumping much sunshine for the Pac-12 this season. Several teams should be at least a loss or two worse than they were last year.  Meanwhile, I don't expect any team to be much better than they were last year.  Of course, you can't have teams doing worse without another team in the conference doing better.  Someone is going to benefit from the conference's overall regression--the big question is who will be the team to benefit? 

Kodiak: This is the year that Wazzu is going to break out and knock off a few teams because their QB(Tuel) is halfway decent.  Don't write off Riley and OSU because of their struggles last year - their QB(Katz) now has a year of experience under his belt.  This is always when those darn Beavs rise up and pounce on someone when they're under the radar.  Conversely, I think Sark and the Huskies are going to struggle mightily without Jake Locker.  

Yellow Fever: I think every team in the league takes at least two losses in conference play, taking itself out of the national championship race.  It's just hard for me to imagine Oregon not seeing a bit of a drop off under the weight of this Lyles thing, and it's difficult to imagine Stanfurd sustaining its level of success without Harbaugh there.  Although I freely admit that might just be wishful thinking.

HydroTech: For the love of God I hope Cal's passing attack doesn't suck this year.

 

Ohio Bear: Cal offense, 2011:  The return to competence.  

(Just a hunch anyway)   

 

Avinash: I hope Stanford's defense really, really, really sucks.

Ohio Bear: So Avi predicts Stanfurd in the Rose Bowl.  Hope he's wrong.  That could push me over the edge.

atomsareenough: Final thought: I'm either going to look really smart or pretty stupid re: ASU, because everyone else seems to be down on their chances.

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Great stuff guys

Several of you mentioned the distraction of Will(ie) Lyles as a reason the Ducks will falter this year. Doesn’t the NCAA measure the speed of their investigations on a geologic clock? Wouldn’t surprise me if their initial report comes out in mid-January, just in time to convince several juniors to enter the NFL draft because of a ban on post-season play.

I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.

by BTown85 on Jul 19, 2011 6:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Distractions?

I seem to remember Oregon having a few more distractions last year involving their starting QB and RB and they did okay.

by TJDJ on Jul 19, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kodiak: Cal…for the first time in years we won’t under-perform relative to pre-season expectations.

Last year we were picked #7 in preseason poll, and we finished 8th.
We under-performed even with such low expectations. Ugh.

Hopefully we over-achieve relative to the preseason poll for the first time in years.

by JustBear on Jul 19, 2011 10:00 AM PDT reply actions  

actually by some we were picked 8th….so we hit it on the nose

"Our hearts shall sing and our voices ring for the dear old Blue and Gold!"

by Joe Bandsmen on Jul 19, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m an outrageous sunshine pumper, aren’t I?

Old Toothwrangler

by Kodiak on Jul 19, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Expectations

This year Yahoo has us picked as #60. Can we do it?

by YleeXOtee on Jul 19, 2011 10:56 AM PDT reply actions  

We were nearly unanimous in our votes for Oregon, though I will let the lone abstainer (who voted for Stanford, of all teams!) to remain anonymous

and the anonymity lasted for over a whole paragraph!

by cfn_ms on Jul 19, 2011 11:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, what was up with that???

by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 19, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some grievous crimes can only be overlooked for so long…

"Some people watch adult videos on their computer - I go to YouTube and watch Jahvid Best highlight clips. That’s what gets me going."- Jim Schwartz, Detroit Lions head coach

by Berkelium97 on Jul 19, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

WSU Perspective

Over at wsufootballblog.com which was linked to by Ted Miller today, they predict:

Pac 12 North Final Standings

Stanford: 11-1 (3-0, 8-1)

Oregon: 11-1 (3-0, 8-1)

WSU: 7-5 (2-1, 5-4)

UW: 6-6 (2-1, 4-5)

Oregon State: 4-8 (2-1, 2-7)

Cal: 2-10 (1-2, 1-8)

Now that’s some serious sunshine pumping for WSU.

by TJDJ on Jul 19, 2011 11:56 AM PDT reply actions  

If this happens we might start focusing our coverage on Cal volleyball during the weekdays. No joke.

by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 19, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here’s their breakdown—

Cal:

Fresno State: Loss

@Colorado: Loss

Presbyterian: Win

@UW: Loss

@Oregon: Loss

USC: Loss

Utah: Loss

@UCLA: Loss

Washington State: Loss

Oregon State: Win

@Stanford: Loss

@ASU: Loss

Keeping January 2 open. You know, just in case.
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by Ohio Bear on Jul 19, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gotta Understand...

that Cougar fans haven’t watched D-1 college football in about a decade, so they’re just guess right about now.

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by alpha1906 on Jul 19, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

wtf! They think we are losing to UCLA!? I’m not feeling great about the season, but even I’m not down on us that much.

by YleeXOtee on Jul 19, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

umm...

you do realize that the game is in LA right? Before the 2009 win the last time Cal won at the Rose Bowl was 1999.

by cfn_ms on Jul 19, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Neuheisel stays at the helm long enough, Cal will not lose again at the Rose Bowl until 2099.

"Some people watch adult videos on their computer - I go to YouTube and watch Jahvid Best highlight clips. That’s what gets me going."- Jim Schwartz, Detroit Lions head coach

by Berkelium97 on Jul 19, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw this too

Ridiculous. We sure wont beat OSU, so we finish 1-11?

Anyways, I think we will be above 500.

by JustBear on Jul 19, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

They have us beating OSU? Have they not watched any Cal football????

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by TwistNHook on Jul 19, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

My guess

…is that most Cougar fans dislike OSU with a passion reminiscent of how Cal fans dislike UCLA or USC.

Given that Cal has lost to OSU something like 6 times in the Tedford era, I’m pretty annoyed with the Beavs, too. Add in the Corvallis Minute, the bizarre Twilight Zone like games in many years stretching back to the 60s and general weirdness (like Cal visiting Corvallis 4 times from 1998 to 2002), and you have a rivalry where it really could tip over into outright hate.

Cal should be beating these clowns most years and yet, we don’t.

AAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHH!!!!!!!!

by FiatSlug on Jul 19, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have we already done this somewhere?

Cal:

Fresno State: Loss (?60-40)

@Colorado: Win

Presbyterian: Win

@UW: Loss

@Oregon: Loss

USC: Loss

Utah: Loss

@UCLA: Win

Washington State: Win

Oregon State: Loss

@Stanford: Loss

@ASU: Loss

by YleeXOtee on Jul 19, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

They predicted us to share the North title, win the Championship game, but get relegated back to the Orange Bowl despite being conference champions while Oregon is in Pasadena.

Lucas either forgot where the conference champion plays, where the national title game is at, or is totally confused.

by RedOscar on Jul 19, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I vote for totally confused.

Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?

by Cugel on Jul 19, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting blog post. I liked seeing the opinion of others.

by HydroTech on Jul 19, 2011 6:08 PM PDT reply actions  

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