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PAC-12 reaches media agreement with Fox & ESPN for $225-250 Million Dollars
The Pac-10/12 and Larry Scott have agreed to a media deal with both Fox and ESPN. The deal is reportedly worth $225 million dollars according to ESPN and $250 million dollars according to the New York Times and Jon Wilner making it the most lucrative deal for a conference in college sports to date. This is surprising news for three major of reasons:
- The amount of money is not only staggering, it is record-breaking. And it is even more than was expected (read more below).
- The fact that BOTH Fox and ESPN are in the deal is HUGE boon for the Pac-12 and an unusual compromise that maximizes the conference's exposure AND income.
- That the Pac-12 still has content available to create a Pac-12 network is perhaps the most brilliant strategic move of the deal and guarantees protection against future expansion and network capacity limitations.
The man that made it happen:
After the jump a more detailed analysis of these factors and what they mean for the Pac-12.
Money, Money, Money, Money, Money, Monaaay......MooONAY!
The Pacific-10 Conference will start its own network on cable television in 2012 but will also sell most of its marquee football and basketball games to Fox and ESPN for about $3 billion over 12 years, more than quadrupling what the two companies have been paying.
That's right...QUADRUPLING. This is clearly WAY more than the paltry ~$60 million the Pac-10 was making before. But it is also record-setting in that it is more than ANY OTHER CONFERENCE. Even the....wait for it.....SEC! Yes that's right. The Pac-12 has beaten the SEC. And for good reason. The quality of programming that the Pac-12 has in its arsenal is second to none. It's not even close. The discrepancy when looking at non-football/basketball sports is so massive that this is really a no-brainer. There is clearly HUGE value in the "Olympic" sports of the "Conference of Champions."
Here is a breakdown of the top schools in terms of total number of NCAA Team championships (keep in mind football is not awarded an NCAA championship):
- UCLA.......................106
- Stanfurd....................100
- USC..........................92
- Oklahoma State.........50
- Arkansas...................41
- LSU...........................42
- Penn St......................40
- Texas.........................40
- North Carolina.............37
- Michigan.....................33
- Cal.............................30
Notables:
ASU............................22
Colorado...................22
Utah...........................20
Oregon......................18
Arizona......................17
Nebraska..................16
Notre Dame..............15
Ohio State.................15
Duke..........................12
Harvard......................10
UW...............................8
Texas A&M..................8
WSU.............................5
Alabama......................5
Oregon State..............3
South Carolina............2
Vanderbilt.....................1
What about in the Individual titles you ask?
- Stanfurd...................437
- USC..........................361
- Texas........................308
- Michigan....................290
- UCLA........................262
- Ohio St......................228
- Florida.......................219
- Cal............................194
- LSU...........................175
- Georgia......................166
- Oklahoma State..........164
- Illinois.........................146
- Arizona......................144
So clearly, there is a massive amount of programming that will be available of very high quality sports. The Pac-12 is a Content Treasure Trove. And it is for this reason that ESPN/Fox were willing to pay out the nose AND not get the full equity:
The ACC recently signed a deal for $155 million a year and the Big 12 reached a deal with Fox that made its total annual package worth about $130 million. The Pac-10, which will be renamed the Pac-12 in July with the additions of Utah and Colorado, topped those deals, as well as the $205 million the SEC gets and the $220 million paid to the Big Ten.
This new deal gives the Pac-12 the edge against other schools with the averages broken down here:
- Pac-12 - $20.83M or $18.75M depending on source
- Big Ten - $18.33M
- SEC - $17.08M
- Big-12 - $13M
- ACC - $12.91M
Keep in mind that not only is the Pac-12 tops....there is EVEN MORE ROOM FOR GROWTH WITH THE PAC-12 NETWORK!!!
Jon Wilner reported that the Pac-12 was seeking a $300 million dollar deal that would include EVERYTHING. So Larry Scott seems to be valuing the Pac-12 network worth at least $50-75M in profit for the Pac-12. That's an additional $4.16-6.25M. That right there, ladies and gentlemen, is a Baseball team and a Men's Gymnastics team. I suspect, however, that it could be worth far far FAR more (The Longhorn Network's payout of $15M a year is for ONE school).
How did the PAC-12 and Larry Scott pull off such a crazy good deal? Well, first the presidents made the right decision to consolidate all their programming:
The conference took the first step toward achieving its revenue and exposure goals in October, when the presidents agreed to bundle all media rights at the conference level.
A little luck and some great timing:
"It was a confluence of events," Scott said. "We were the last to go, which put a tremendous premium value on our rights. It’s all about market dynamics."
One important aspect to note is the LENGTH of the contract. 12 years. Set to run until 2024-2025. That is a VERY long time. One must consider the economics of college sports, the current expansion climate, and the BCS trouble. No one expects the BCS to change anytime soon, but over the next 12 years? A lot can happen. But keep in mind that all the other major conferences are also in very long-term deals (10+ years)
How the addition of another four teams may affect the contract is also undoubtedly a major component of the current contract negotiations. Larry Scott is no dummy, however, so the contingency plans along these lines may actually provide incentive to EXPAND the conference. This means there needs to be room to grow on the actual networks to accommodate all those games....ahhh, well read on to see where that comes into play.
ESPN joins the fray and splits with Fox! #WINNING
ESPN gives the Pac-12 the national exposure that Larry Scott understands is CRUCIAL to maintaining competition, creating a stronger brand, getting cred in the polls, and hitting one of the largest alumni bases in the country. What's surprising about this is that most prognosticators felt that there was no way ESPN would take such a massive deal under its belt when it didn't have enough slots. But Larry Scott understood getting on ESPN was necessary for the grand vision. The solution? Sell ESPN part of the package and Fox the other part.
It is surprising that Fox would be willing to split its share, but this just goes to show that Larry Scott is a hard nosed negotiator. Another feather in his "Don't-mess-with-me cap."
Of course this does mean that PAC-12 fans will have to do some hunting to find their game...but really, that's been the case with pretty much all sports now for some time. Just try and come up with which networks show the Superbowl, NBA playoffs, MLB world series, NFL games, etc....unless you're Notre Dame, you're almost always going to be channel flipping. Co-branding isn't as important as availability. And this is why the ESPN aspect is such a massive WIN.
The games to be shown will alternate between years:
The conference’s football games will be shown on ABC and Fox — a combined five will be in prime time each season — and on ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU and Fx. Basketball will be shown on ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU and Fox Sports Net. ESPN will also carry a package of about 15 Olympic sports.
ESPN and Fox will also rotate the conference’s annual football championship game, while the basketball tournament will alternate between the ESPN networks and Fox and Fx.
The PAC-12 network: The Network of Champions
What's so great about this deal and makes Larry Scott a true genius? He still got the money he wanted without giving away the farm AND there is room to create a Pac-12 network. Again the New York Times:
But a critical difference between the conferences’ deals is that the Pac-10 will retain full ownership of its network. Fox Cable Networks owns 49 percent of the Big Ten channel. Another recently created college channel, the Longhorn Network, which will focus on University of Texas sports, culture and academics, is owned by ESPN as a result of a 20-year, $300 million payment.
"We didn’t feel we had to give equity to get the broadcast and cable packages we got," Larry Scott, the Pac-10’s commissioner, said in a telephone interview.
Translation: "We fully intend to keep equity, create our own network, and in two to three years when the everyone else is locked into contracts we will create a network that will make us even MORE money and create a World-wide presence that will make the Longhorns and the Big-Ten drool."
How big will this network be? The NYT reports:
The Pac-10’s new channel will carry at least 350 sports events. The conference is also creating a digital channel, like ESPN3, to carry at least 500 events annually, and a properties division to handle sponsorships.
I'm sure you're reading that and saying...wait that math doesn't add up. And you would be correct. Larry Scott is going to use those 150 slots to schedule in events from other places like other college conferences (C-USA, WAC, MWC, etc). This means the small schools could get in on the action via the Pac-12 network. I'm not sure how the money would flow in these cases, but I'm sure Larry Scott is devising ways to make it a win-win for everyone.
The other scenario is that those 150 slots could be filled by four additional schools. As in four additional schools that would make up the Pac-16. What Larry Scott has done by keeping equity is assured that expansion of the conference could be accommodated in a manner that benefits the CONFERENCE not the networks exclusively. Either way, it is another win-win scenario and another feather in the "genius cap" for Larry Scott.
I'm very curious to see how Larry Scott might get additional programming on there. Especially from the academic side. Are we going to see science shows with graduate students in LeConte talking about dark matter? Forestry professors at Oregon leading hikes into the wilderness to discuss climate change? USC with reality-TV cheerleader vs sorority girls shows?
The question now is who will operate the channel? It looks like Comcast/NBC has said "no thank you"
The deal is a blow to Comcast/NBC, which was vying to pick up the rights for Versus but pulled out last week. Comcast/NBC still is in play to operate a conference channel, but sources said it has told the conference that it is unwilling to actually own such a channel.
My best guess....whoever is has the capacity and the know-how to deploy a college based network and who is looking to expand their revenue base in two to three years. I suspect NBC will pay out the nose to get the olympics in 2014/2016. Perhaps Larry Scott chose ESPN for another reason...might they be the partner for The Network of Champions?
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Speculation I didn't include in the article
I didn’t want to post this as part of the article reporting, but one thing that occurred to me regarding the Pac-12 network: who is going to pay for it.
This deal is so massive and will make the conference so much money upfront that I wouldn’t be surprised if Larry was planning on taking some of that cream off the top for the first few years (and possibly as a credit in future years) to help establish the Pac-12 network on their own. Maintaining that kind of control over content is virtually unheard of and has the potential to be a serious game-changer.
So this means if Larry takes say $50M a year for a total of 12 × 50 = $600M, is that enough to start a digital channel network? This assumes that the network could easily recoup the start-up costs, maintain its operating expenditures, AND still turn a significant profit every year. I think that is definitely doable and could provide long-term financial stability to the conference for many decades to come.
My only concerns would be regarding getting shut out by the distributors (who also create the content—this is why NBC/Comcast should be illegal).
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by PlayClassyBears on May 3, 2011 10:58 AM PDT reply actions
Startup
Tried (okay minimally) to lookup what kind of startup costs; closest thing is this one referring to Texas:
The cost of starting a Longhorn network with original programming and live sporting events could run between $15 million and $30 million. The university would need a studio with a set or sets, floor cameras and stage lighting, editing equipment, an audio board and computers.
The larger expense is personnel. To run a basic studio-based system, UT would need a production staff, engineers, producers, on-air talent and a sales team.
“There’s a lot of infrastructure,” said Kevin Weiberg, the current Pac-10 deputy commissioner who ran the Big Ten network almost from the beginning.
“The Big Ten did everything in high-definition, and there were costs related to that,” Weiberg said. “I was the 20th person hired, and we ended up with a staff of 100.”
Hope he’s willing to do it all again, but in an even better way!
by moving screen on May 3, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Interns! Lots and lots of interns! Unpaid!
by Missing Barry on May 3, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s an interesting starting point $15-30M to start. I suspect that with many more schools it’ll probably be much more than that.
I could see perhaps shared resources (editing in a central location), but most of the technical equipment will probably have to be kept on campus. That means a crew per region if not per school (I doubt Utah and Colorado could share, even WSU/UW might be too far). So you’re looking at about 8-12 crews. If you take the low-end number ($15M) for a barebones crew and the high number for a full crew and editting ($30) you’re looking at about $120-225M in start-up costs. You have a staff of 100 in addition to that…with a yearly cost of ball-park: $40M ($40,000 mean salary?).
You are betting the farm that this network will make lots and lots of money. These are pretty high costs, not to mention all the bandwidth associated with transporting HD images from the Palouse to LA (where I imagine most of the editing and post will take place).
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by PlayClassyBears on May 3, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Your costs aren't too far off
The [Big Ten] network sunk a reported $18 million into the construction of studios and headquarters in the former Montgomery Ward building in downtown Chicago and will spend a reported $50 million in programming rights fees.
Some (Wilner) have speculated that the total cost to start the Pac 12 Network will be around 100MM+. I think what’s really important is the ROI. If they’re able to secure carriers and charge cable rights over the next 12 years you’re looking at needing 8MM+ households (that’s easy with DirectTV, Dish or even Comcast). If they try and make most of their money off advertising and online marketing, it’s going to be a lot harder.
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Comcast has said in entertainment business reporting
That it’s willing to spend money on entertainment, because it thinks it can get the reward. In fact, it recently agree to pay more than GE has been paying, to upgrade NBC’s broadcast property as well as additional money for the NBC Universal cable property (e.g. USA, Bravo, etc.)
However, they have said that, while it’s great to own NFL football and the Olympics, they are not going to pay to LOSE money (which they did on the NFL contract last year — many millions — and really have lost on the Olympics the last few times out). This means, IMO, they will still carry NFL football but only on a less generous contract and likewise, make the same hardball argument to the IOC, who is going to be faced with what? Asking Disney to cough up money? I don’t think so.
I'd rather be surfing.
by Pac 10 Alum on May 8, 2011 6:01 AM PDT up reply actions
So how do you think this plays out for the Pac-12 network? The Olympics and NFL are really expensive contracts, but does that mean they go for the Pac-12 Network because it has more value for the investment?
The more bidders the better it will be for the Pac-12 network. It’s really just a matter of distribution at this point though, I think. It looks like Larry Scott isn’t giving up his golden goose.
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by PlayClassyBears on May 9, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Larry Scott intends to own the network unlike the BIG TEN. Apparently, he can do math a lot better
than Jim Daleny can. I think it means more money, especially for the Olympic sports. It’s absurd that the Pac 10 wrestling championship could only be viewed via streaming from the Oregon State website. Or, for example, I could barely catch the Bear’s swim team NCAA championship because I was at a friends that gets the NBC Olympic channel.
I think people will pay attention to the sports where the Pac 12 really excels well above other conferences – both in our logical geographic region, outside the US and North America and in general. This is only, IMO, going to help the schools recruit, help the athletes who want to pursue Olympic ambitions, and generally help the rep of every Pac 12 school going forward, and I would hope and think, help the AD budgets of every school in the conference.
I'd rather be surfing.
by Pac 10 Alum on May 20, 2011 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Good read PlayClassyBears….I reposted this on BI giving you full credit…some of us want as much info as possible……you did a great job…thanks
Thanks C_F2!
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by PlayClassyBears on May 3, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm giddy
Wow, I feel LOVED by the media for the first time in…….well…….forever !!!!!!
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
What Larry Scott has done is nothing short of monumental. The thing is that this is really just the beginning. How he plans on leveraging the Pac-12 network is what has me very interested. I can imagine a network that not only shows all the fantastic sports of the Pac-12 which includes Skiing! But also great programming from the academic and policy side. With some of the world’s best research universities there is SOOO much possibility there.
One of the things I learned about my time at Harvard is that they use a marketing department to get their brand out there. It’s how they continue to attract top level talent and get ranked number one consistently. They have a department that connects reputable outlets like NYT etc to their professors. With a network that can leverage world-class departments such marketing is INCREDIBLY valuable. It’s a dirty little secret Harvard has kept very well underwraps. I wouldn’t be surprised if Larry Scott has said as much to the PXII presidents.
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by PlayClassyBears on May 3, 2011 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I would love to see some awesome lectures and presentations and speakers sprinkled in with the sports. That would be so wonderful.
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on May 3, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
There is already so much content available online that both Stanfurd and Cal are posting, it could be easily distributed and rebroadcast through online digital channels.
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by PlayClassyBears on May 3, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Almost anything you can think of.
here’s the current list for Cal:
http://webcast.berkeley.edu/courses.php
You can change the semester in the top right. Mind you these are FULL courses.
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by PlayClassyBears on May 3, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh and how about Cal Rugby on tv!! I know 20 million Aussies would watch it.
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by PlayClassyBears on May 3, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
As someone who spent some time on the Big 10 network this year
on sports such as Hockey, Gymnastics, etc., I think it’s a really good thing. I mean, I could watch, for example, the ASU Sun Devils in a gymnastic competition against a Big 10 school, but more typically, I was forced to watch say Michigan take on tOSU, or Penn State.
I could go to NBC Universal’s Olympic sports channel and catch, for example, the Cal Bear’s swim team victory but that’s about it, as far as watching Pac 10 sports (and my roommate paid for a very expansive sports package on our HD cable). I mean, even the Pac 10 Wrestling championship, for example, the best I could do was watch a stream of it via the Oregon State site, whereas I could watch EVERY Big Ten wrestling match inter-conference this year, plus their championship matches.
What is really monumental is how this will allow, in football, and other sports, all the teams, including the Cougars and even those who have done more with less, like the Beavers, to be as competitive as the schools with far more resources (or traditions).
I'd rather be surfing.
by Pac 10 Alum on May 8, 2011 6:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think with the great year round weather in most Pac-12 locales, plus the sheer number of sports played out west, there will so much great content available not only to Pac-12 viewers but viewers nationally. If you had the choice as a non-Pac-10 alum (as your handle identifies you), between the pac-12 network and the Big Ten who do you choose? The conference with more outdoor v indoor sports available?
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by PlayClassyBears on May 9, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I like indoor sports
The outdoor thing is a factor. The swimming team at Arizona (my campus) is outdoors, so the diving and swimming happens outside, versus inside, and we have the weather in Tucson for that. But (and I’ve never been a hockey fan and I’m not one of those guys who just watches ANYTHING with a ball or a stick and unis), I even enjoyed a little tiny bit of college hockey (I mainly watched it so I could compare how Fox was covering things versus the Big 10 network – IMO, Fox sucks in camera work and analyst and play by play).
If a non-alum, I would watch the more thrilling games. Irrespective of outdoor, versus indoor, but that’s me. I think most people would watch the photogenic and the good competition.
I'd rather be surfing.
by Pac 10 Alum on May 20, 2011 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I rec'd this with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind
Great read.
Yes, I am an Old Blue. Now get off my lawn.
LOL, thanks for the compliment! Harbaughian references are not nearly so insulting now that he is a niner.
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by PlayClassyBears on May 3, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Fantastic work, PlayClassyBears (PCB???). I really appreciate the analysis.
n.b. -- This comment does not constitute official chemical advice.
Thank ye
It is a VERY interesting time and I think we shall see some more really cool stuff down the pipeline. I’ll write some more as we get more information.
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by PlayClassyBears on May 3, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Larry Scott just made Tom Hansen his bitch
Amazing what a competent, skilled person in Walnut Creek actually can do for this conference.
by ArtVandelet on May 3, 2011 12:21 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I'm giddy like a schoolgirl!
Suck it Texas.
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on May 3, 2011 12:24 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I can’t imagine how impossible this deal would have been if Texas was in a Pac-16.
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by PlayClassyBears on May 3, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
For all your money song needs!
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Thanks for the writeup, PCB. It really shows just how much a better deal our conference got.
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Larry Scott basically threw down and Fox and ESPN had no choice but to bend over. Can’t believe that this is the same Pac-10/12
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by PlayClassyBears on May 3, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Hm
I believe the additional 150 events were supposed to be things like lectures or academic stuff that Pac-12 schools put together, but otherwise good writeup.
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by Avinash Kunnath on May 3, 2011 12:30 PM PDT reply actions
yeah, it was the word “events” that made me wonder that perhaps this was specific to sporting events. Either way, if this is a 24/7 network, there will be plenty of room for growth. After this move, it’s clear Larry Scott is thinking BIG. REALLLY FREAKIN’ BIG.
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by PlayClassyBears on May 3, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Why does good news keep coming when I try to sit down and write this Shakespeare paper? First, I sit down to write it on Sunday and there is an alert saying that the President is going to make a statement . . . out of curiosity, I turn it on. Now I sit down to write it again and this flashes across my screen. I kind of wish I could keep postponing it . . .
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money money money! nicely done larry.
and more pac10/12 sports on the tv. win!
by j.lee on May 3, 2011 12:53 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Wow! This is unbelievably good news! This would seem to pretty much secure the long term health of our athletics program, right?
I'm sure it helps...
…but I’d be curious to know what the total athletic department budget is (with all the canceled sports). Anyone know that number??
I’m sure an additional $15mm/yr will help a lot, but I remember the athletic dept budget being something in the $80-100mm range.
That’s a good point. My mind went first to the shortfall that needed to be made up this past year, and led to the temporary cut back of programs. I think that the change in revenue from this TV deal is larger than that deficit, but you are right that it is something like 1/6 of the overall athletic budget.
The shortfall was a lot less than $80m iirc … ?
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Yes, which is why my initial reaction was that this secured the long term health of our athletics program. But $15M is a lot less than $80M, so if other sources of revenue somehow dry up in the next few years, we could have renewed issues with our athletics budget. I think that is the point that Bears07 was making.
I’d have to lookup the numbers, but IIRC there was a shortfall of about $8-9M or so yearly WITH an expected media deal “comparable” to other deals (e.g. ACC/SEC). Birgeneau in his commitment to Cal athletics wrestled down $5M that University will use to cover that gap. The rest had to be filled by the department. Thus spurring all the cuts.
The deal is going to be above the conservative numbers I’m sure Birgeneau was using (and updates from LS no doubt helped the cut sports get reinstated). So with the $20M raised for those sports PLUS this windfall the athletics department should be fine for quite some time.
However, Cal athletics are still REALLY expensive. And even in all of this good news there continues a battle for ultimate supremacy. Larry Scott is not done. It is the Pac-12 network deal that is going to be the REAL windfall. I anticipate some healthy belt-tightening around the league as the conference invests some of this windfall into the Pac-12 network.
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by PlayClassyBears on May 3, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree.
it would be reasonable to skim off some $$$ from the first couple years for start up costs.
I think start up costs might be over estimated above….both UCLA and USC have film and television depts. I’d be surprized if they didn’t have much of the studio equipment and staff available to ease into it. Certainly there will be upgrades needed. Also, both the Bay area and southern CA have a large television production industry….with the sort of staff, space, and equipment that the PXII could lease/rent to get the ball rolling while stuff was built out.
I think that every school will want a studio/production office for managing their contributions to the network, though some will want more than others.
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on May 4, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Great post! I love it!
Here is a breakdown of the top schools in terms of total number of NCAA Team championships (keep in mind football is not awarded an NCAA championship):
UCLA…………………..106
Stanfurd………………..100
USC……………………..92
Oklahoma State………50
Arkansas……………….41
LSU………………………42
Penn St………………….40
Texas…………………….40
North Carolina………….37
Michigan…………………33
Cal………………………..30
That 30 looks so sad, I wish it included Rugby and Men’s rowing. With 25 Rugby and 14 Men’s rowing (I think) that would make the top 4 from the Pac-10.
The good news is our rate of NCs is growing so fast we should over take the top 5 spot in 10-15 years.
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by PlayClassyBears on May 3, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Well if we included disc golf and bongcrafting championships, then
GO DUCKS. All I’m sayin’.
THAT'S RIGHT, Kenny Wheaton you did. You cut back into GREATNESS.
by HoodRiverDuck on May 3, 2011 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
So only one more year
and I can take VS network out of my remote control faves
Clearly someone is not watching enough NHL playoffs….
by Missing Barry on May 3, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Ice melts a bit too fast on the bayou.
by CalLSURoseBowl on May 3, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
VS is the WORST! Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo glad that we didn’t end up with Comcast.
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by PlayClassyBears on May 3, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
EXACTLY!
As one who has suffered mightily with the MWC TV contract with Comcast, I have grown to thoroughly hate this evil empire, so that was one of the biggest points of celebration for me – FOX/ESPN and NO COMCAST!!
I’m absolutely loving every moment of this new conference… and we are still 2 months away from being official members :)
Apologies if already mentioned
Statistics on Cal top 4 place to play football with a shot at a pro career:
here
by CalLSURoseBowl on May 3, 2011 1:49 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I hadn’t seen that!
This is super cool. I was JUST thinking about an article like this the other day. I was trying to think of a way to do it that wouldn’t be a bear in the data analysis, I really like their solution. Quite elegant.
This is DEFINITELY something Cal needs to be showing recruits!
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by PlayClassyBears on May 3, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
GREAT NEWS!!!
I was totally pi$$ed how the buffs and utes walked all over Scott to get the divisions they wanted but this makes me feel a lot better!!! Can’t wait for the Pac-12 channel!!!
Bring back the Pac-10!!!
Simply put:
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It was fantastic."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
It will be interesting how this plays out at the level of the individual universities
As a fan of Cal and the Pac-10, it’s hard not to be very happy with this news. But I’m curious what this will actually mean for the budget of Cal Athletics in the long run.
At first glance, this appears to be a bump in revenues that erases the need to round up donations to save baseball, gymnastics, et al. I suspect that the university will still call on us to honor our pledges, and I’ll happily do so—as modest as my pledge is. But my enthusiasm is dented at least somewhat if it turns out the money’s not really needed and will instead be used to pay for various luxuries in a new time of plenty. I suspect other, much larger donors will feel a bit of the same.
Likewise, in our continuing state budget climate, I suspect this will just crank up even more political pressure to eliminate taxpayer support/subsidy of Athletics. At the end of the day, I wonder just how big of a net windfall for the individual departments this will prove to be.
Go Bears!
I can guarantee you that the athletic department will most certainly be collecting on those donations. This deal is big news not only for its worth but for the context of the times. Things are bad in California and getting worse every day. There is no end in sight for the cuts to UC. The University of California is effectively moving towards a system that essentially makes it a private school. As it is with the next round of cuts state support will be less than federal grants (mostly for research and grad programs), private funding, and student tuition (yup that’s right—first time ever).
So you bet that the pressure will be on athletics to continue its spend thriftiness. It is also entirely possible that the $5M subsidy that Birgeneau fought so hard for will be sought after by the Academic Senate. And rightfully so to some degree…the threat of losing an academic program that is the best in the world outweighs the loss of the Men’s gymnastics team…and yes even Cal Baseball. I’m not anti-sports by ANY MEANS WHATSOEVER. But this should illustrate just how much deep $H!# the UC system is in right now.
UC needs her alumni now more than ever. It needs to get its alumni giving rate above its current 14% and past Stanfurd’s 37% and more towards Princeton’s 67%.
What Cal Athletics is trying to establish is an endowment. As is the rest of the university actually. This is the future of education and probably athletics as well. Berkeley’s endowment while substantial ($2.5B+) pales in comparison to Harvard’s $30M.
If we are truly to maintain that level of quality WITHOUT public funding that endowment needs to get huge and FAST.
Give to Cal, and for all you (much) Older Blues, consider estate giving!
Go Bears!
Say it like Ron Burgandy signing off: "Stay Classy, Bears!"
by PlayClassyBears on May 3, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Is there ever a chance that Prop 13 will be repealed? Obviously by an initiative of course.
In other words, Go Bears!
If Prop 13 is repealed...
the repeal should apply only to commercial real estate.
There is no earthly reason why a residential homeowner should be forced out of his/her home by paper profits.
I think they anticipated some of this amount when they figured their budget,
but I’m sure they didn’t count on it being nearly this much. I’m sure there’s a party in the athletic department tonight….
There's no crying in baseball!

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