2011 NFL Draft, Day Two Open Thread
by Berkelium97 on Apr 29, 2011 2:30 PM PDT
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Last night we saw Cameron Jordan become the first Golden Bear chosen in the 2011 NFL Draft. While we had to endure an excruciating wait as he fell from a mid-round projection all the way to 24th, today we can only be pleasantly surprised. Shane Vereen, Chris Conte, and Mike Mohamed are the three remaining Bears with the highest odds of being drafted, but the consensus is that they will not be chosen until the 4th, 5th/6th, and 7th rounds, respectively. While we might not expect any Cal players to be drafted today, it's not inconceivable that we might be surprised in the next few hours (right Christian Ponder?). Green Bay could use a running back and they do have the second-to-last pick in the third round. Could they use it to draft Vereen before Harbaugh tries to take him in the 4th round? We'll find out soon enough.
Coverage kicks off at 3pm PDT on both ESPN and the NFL Network. Follow along in the comments below. Go Bears!
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Pats took somebody with the name Ras-I Dowling. What???
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They don’t have a deep secondary, so it makes sense. Their starting corner back is back from injury, but I’m sure they don’t feel entirely safe yet. McCourty was a great pick last year who played some amazing football, now they’re going for depth.
They also have a total of 5 picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, so they probably figure they can still grab a good pass rusher later on today.
Dalton to the Bengals! AERose must be sneering.
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SF JUST MADE A TRADE FOR A PICK!
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by Redonkulous Bear on Apr 29, 2011 3:24 PM PDT reply actions
WOOOOOOOOOOOO KAEPERNICK!
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by Redonkulous Bear on Apr 29, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he’s skillful enough. Harby’ll like his cannon arm
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by EchoOfSilence on Apr 29, 2011 3:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The 49ers liked the way that Alex Smith thing went
So they decided to draft the next Alex Smith.
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Won’t Luck probably be the #1 pick?
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by atomsareenough on Apr 29, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I can’t imagine that actually happening.
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by atomsareenough on Apr 29, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
OSTRICH OSTRICH OSTRICH!
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by Redonkulous Bear on Apr 29, 2011 3:29 PM PDT reply actions
I was hoping they would take Shane with that 4th round pick…
"Some people watch adult videos on their computer - I go to YouTube and watch Jahvid Best highlight clips. That’s what gets me going."- Jim Schwartz, Detroit Lions head coach
Wow
Only 2 running backs taken so far
Which RB will be taken next?
Player Pos Ht Wt College Grade* Watch
Leshoure, Mikel RB 6’0" 227 Illinois 7.3 Video
Thomas, Daniel RB 6’0" 230 Kansas St. 6.7 Video
Jones, Taiwan RB 6’0" 194 Eastern Washington 6.5
Hunter, Kendall RB 5’7" 199 Oklahoma St. 6.4 Video
White, Johnny RB 5’10" 209 North Carolina 6.3 Video
Rodgers, Jacquizz RB 5’6" 196 Oregon St. 6.2 Video
Murray, DeMarco RB 6’0" 213 Oklahoma 6.1 Video
Todman, Jordan RB 5’9" 203 Connecticut 5.9 Video
Lewis, Dion RB 5’7" 193 Pittsburgh 5.7 Video
Locke, Derrick RB 5’8" 188 Kentucky 5.6 Video
Vereen, Shane RB 5’10" 210 California 5.4 Video
Carter, Delone RB 5’9" 222 Syracuse 5.2 Video
Powell, Bilal RB 5’11" 207 Louisville 4.8 Video
Helu, Roy RB 6’0" 219 Nebraska 4.7 Video
Ridley, Stevan RB 5’11" 225 LSU 4.5 Video
Clay, John RB 6’1" 230 Wisconsin 4.2 Video
Cooper, Graig RB 5’10" 205 Miami 4.2 Video
Sherman, Anthony RB 5’10" 242 Connecticut 4.0 Video
Allen, Anthony RB 6’1" 228 Georgia Tech 3.9 Video
Chapas, Shaun RB 6’2" 247 Georgia 3.8 Video
Green, Alex RB 6’0" 225 Hawaii 3.7 Video
Marecic, Owen RB 6’1" 248 Stanford 3.7 Video
Devine, Noel RB 5’8" 179 West Virginia 3.4 Video
Havili, Stanley RB 6’0" 227 USC 3.2 Video
Evans, Darren RB 6’0" 227 Virginia Tech 3.1 Video
Scott, Da’Rel RB 5’11" 211 Maryland 2.8 Video
Harper, Jamie RB 5’11" 233 Clemson 2.5 Video
Hynoski, Henry FB 6’0" 257 Pittsburgh 2.5 Video
Berry, Damien RB 5’10" 211 Miami 2.0 Video
Bradford, Allen RB 5’11" 242 USC 2.0 Video
Draughn, Shaun RB 5’11" 213 North Carolina 2.0 Video
Fannin, Mario RB 5’10" 231 Auburn 2.0 Video
Royster, Evan RB 6’0" 212 Penn St. 2.0 Video
Saine, Brandon RB 5’11" 220 Ohio St. 2.0 Video
Taua, Vai RB 5’10" 213 Nevada 2.0 Video
Allen, Armando RB 5’8" 199 Notre Dame —
Asiata, Matt RB 5’11" 229 Utah — Video
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by Redonkulous Bear on Apr 29, 2011 3:43 PM PDT reply actions
I was hoping for Kapernick to be around for the Raiders to pick up, but seeing that the Niners drafted him, I’m hoping my Raiders get a 2nd round steal in Vereen.
I thought Vereen was projected to be a 3rd/4th rounder?
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by atomsareenough on Apr 29, 2011 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Taiwan Jones graded higher than Quizz and Vereen is a joke of epic proportions.
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Yes.
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by atomsareenough on Apr 29, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Don’t sleep on Taiwan Jones. He was very solid in that game. And some Cal running backs are pretty high on him too.
And come on, he was playing for EWU. You were expecting 350+ yards?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 29, 2011 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't doubt he has ability
I just question how a guy who built his career on FCS competition can grade higher than very productive RBs from BCS schools.
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Did King Tyce & Cam introduce themselves?
Wonder what the convo was like when they put Taiwan on the ground:
“Hi, I’m Tyson, future #1 draft pick”
“Hey Cam here, future #1 draft pick too”
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IIRC, Jones was injured in that game
Left the game in the 1st half
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Just looked back at the play by play I found no evidence that Taiwan got hurt in that game.
His stats:
Rushing: 4 carries, 4 yards
Receiving: 2 catches, 11 yards
His big play was catching Mychal Kendricks from behind on a fumble return. Jones tackled Kendricks at the 5 yard line. Cal flubbed the next offensive series and settled for a FG.
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Nice kid. Inconsistent though.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 29, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m legitimately impressed by the Lions’ organization’s commitment to drafting the BPA. They’re not making the consensus need picks, but they’re loading up with talent.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
This used to be the old model of doing things.
Still need an O-line though.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 29, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
The O-line issue is neither as good nor as bad as it’s made out to be. Pass protection is stable and workable, and it’s pretty clear that going forward Detroit is a pass-first offense. It’s not as good as the numbers suggest, but people assume the rash of quarterback injuries Detroit faced was due to poor protection, when in fact it was mostly just… shock and awe, bad luck.
Going forward, yes, they need to upgrade but Schwartz is banking on Scott Linehan being able to jerry-rig an offense with the short passing game and using the immense amount of speed on the offense which… well, Schwartz made a note to point out that the common thread between great offenses was a great QB, running back, tight end, wide receiver, but not left tackle.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
The Raiders make another imminently logical pick. They must have put Al Davis under sedation for draft day again.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
He ran last years draft, didn’t he?!
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by EchoOfSilence on Apr 29, 2011 4:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
If he had been running last year’s draft Jahvid would have gone to Oakland. 40 times uber alles!
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
Was he the best OL prospect available, or was his draft stock helped a bit by his bloodlines?
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by atomsareenough on Apr 29, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone get the feeling
The Niners are tanking to get Luck? Kaeperneick and Smith are talents, but they’re probably projects too.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 29, 2011 4:36 PM PDT reply actions
LOL
Bucs take Da’Quan Bowers. If he’s healthy, that is a monstrous line.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 29, 2011 4:37 PM PDT reply actions
So Tampa’s O-line + Detroit’s D-line = Super Bowl?
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by atomsareenough on Apr 29, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Da’Quan Bowers plays offense?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 29, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
That was Avinash, mocking me.
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by atomsareenough on Apr 29, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Duh, my mistake. Who’s got the best O-line, would you say?
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by atomsareenough on Apr 29, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Hi Furdie
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 29, 2011 4:38 PM PDT reply actions
Yay:
Second year in a row and third time in five years that USC has only one player among top 50 draft picks. In ‘05 there were four, 06’ five.
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Don’t remember how many wins but they played in that epic bowl game vs. Florida State(?) last season.
At least one of the drafted guys (Quinn) missed the season because of the NCAA stuff.
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They were ruined by those early suspensions
That suspended half these draft picks.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 29, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Ooooooh a swap with the Bears!
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by Redonkulous Bear on Apr 29, 2011 4:48 PM PDT reply actions
Bears took Paea
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by Redonkulous Bear on Apr 29, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Ruh-roh, Paea
Rodgers got more beef to battle in the NFC North.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 29, 2011 4:51 PM PDT reply actions
ESPN? NFL Network for the win!
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/live/popup?icampaign=Draft_Live_HP_popout_prior
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 29, 2011 4:54 PM PDT reply actions
Shane Vereen to the Patriots
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 29, 2011 5:00 PM PDT reply actions
SHANE TO THE PATS!
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by Redonkulous Bear on Apr 29, 2011 5:01 PM PDT reply actions
Shane could start there next year! (right?)
Cal
by Thoroughbred on Apr 29, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
He most likely will start. Danny Woodhead is a nice little running back that’s a great 3rd down back. Ben Jarvis Green-Ellis is another running back that works hard, but is more a back up than a pure starter. The Pats had to play around with those two and they desperately needed a starting running back. I was thinking Mark Ingram because he brings them that Corey Dillon type running game that put them in the Super Bowl, but their offense has evolved since then. Shane Vereen’s a work horse back that can not only run, but block and catch the ball out of the back field. Their offense is no longer a pure spread, nor is it power offense. They don’t need a bruiser because that’s not the type of offense they play. Vereen just seemed like the type of back that would fit their fluid/dynamic offensive scheme perfectly. You can’t put Ingram/LeShoure/etc. out wide with a movement like you can do with Vereen.
Elaborate pls?
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by atomsareenough on Apr 29, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Woah Lions trade from the Seahawks?
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by Redonkulous Bear on Apr 29, 2011 5:04 PM PDT reply actions
Wow
The 3rd RB taken in the draft! That’s impressive.
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All your 24th pick are belong to Cal!
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by atomsareenough on Apr 29, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Jahvid was the 3rd RB taken last year too
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 29, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Just wish he was going to stay in the Bay with the Niners, but I’m happy for him.
by Monica's Dad on Apr 29, 2011 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey Jon Gruden
Fuck you and your pick-tipping.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
hmmm?
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by atomsareenough on Apr 29, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Every few picks he’ll “predict” the next pick which is kind of bullshit.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
“Predict” because he has inside info?
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by atomsareenough on Apr 29, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Good pick!
Leshoure is a heavy, bruising back. He and Jahvid will work really well together in tandem.
Awesome for Jahvid and the Lions.
by Monica's Dad on Apr 29, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Comparing him to Kevin Faulk would kinda be a slam against Shane.
by Monica's Dad on Apr 29, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Kevin Faulk has had a productive career in the NFL. There’s no shame in having Kevin Faulk’s career imo.
#Dominate
Kevin Faulk was a great back and had a very long career. Don’t think Shane would mind being a new Kevin Faulk.
Good $$$ too
From ProFootballTalk.Com – “Kevin Faulk will get $15.05 million over six years from the Patriots, including a $1.95 million signing bonus. His three-year take is $6.05 million.”
As listed on the NFLPA.Org site Kevin Faulk’s salaries are as follows: (2004 – $550,000; 2005 – $1,400,000; 2006 – $1,900,000; 2007 – $1,900,000; 2008 – $2,400,000; 2009 – $2,900,000) His workout bonuses are $55,600, $106,160, $106,160, $106,720, $106,720 and $106,720. For the seasons 2007 through 2009, Kevin Faulk has a $500,000 roster bonus. He also has $250,000 in incentives each season — NLTBE in 2004 and 2005, LTBE in 2006 through 2009. His cap numbers are $930,600, $1,831,160, $2,581,160, $3,081,720, $3,581,720 and $4,081,720.
April 6, 2005 update – It appears that Faulk redid his deal. For the longest time his 2005 salary was listed as $1,400,000. It is now listed as $540,000. It appears to me that the Pats converted $860,000 of his salary into a signing bonus saving $688,000 on this year’s cap but adding $172,000 to Faulk’s cap hits in 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009.
January 16, 2005 update – Mike Reiss reported in the Boston Globe that Kevin Faulk’s 2006 cap number is $2.5 million. I had it as $2.7 million so I am presuming that the $250,000 LTBE incentive is now NLTBE and therefore does not count against the cap.
August 30, 2008 update – Since Kevin Faulk was suspended for one game, his 2008 salary is now for 16 weeks or $2,258,816.December 21, 2009 update According to the USAToday salary database Faulk’s 2009 cap number is $4,254,280 which must mean that his $250,000 incentive is being classified as LTBE this season.
March 10, 2010 update The Boston Herald’s Ian Rappoport blogged that Faulks contract is “a one-year deal, which we knew, with the potential to earn $3 million. Faulk gets a signing bonus of $1 million, a salary of $1 million, and the chance to earn $1 million in incentives.”
http://www.patscap.com/capfootnotes.html
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I think LeShoure was Detroit’s pick the whole way. Great complement for Best
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 29, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Go here for more discussion on Vereen
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 29, 2011 5:12 PM PDT reply actions
From the Pats' open thread
That’s odd. RT @MilanNL: @RapSheet So our future RB has 8 reps more than our future Tackle ? Awesome.
In other words, Go Bears!
LOL damn right it’s awesome.
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by atomsareenough on Apr 29, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Conte tomorrow, I think
Mike Mo had some great drill times at the combine. Some bad tape last year because he was injured
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 29, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Miami trades up hmmmmmmmm
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by Redonkulous Bear on Apr 29, 2011 5:27 PM PDT reply actions
Packers get Randall Cobb WR from Kentucky
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by Redonkulous Bear on Apr 29, 2011 5:39 PM PDT reply actions
Dontay Moch
Very fast. Not sure if he has any other skills, but he’s very fast. Tough to defend off the edge, think he sacked Riley once or twice in the Cal-Nevada game.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 29, 2011 5:51 PM PDT reply actions
That was from the OSU game, but… point taken.
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by atomsareenough on Apr 29, 2011 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish San Francisco would have drafted him instead of Kaepernick.
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thass cold man. End of the day Mallett is the only quarterback in this group that I’d draft to start on opening day. Even if all that’s been said about Mallett is true, he still has an advanced knowledge of reading the defense and the physical tools to take advantage, whereas right now Kap just has the tools and could just as easily end up scrambling into the loving arms of a linebacker who summarily slices him in half.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
CHRIS CONTE! BEARS!
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by Redonkulous Bear on Apr 29, 2011 7:08 PM PDT reply actions
Conte picked by the Bears!
Today is full of surprises!
"Some people watch adult videos on their computer - I go to YouTube and watch Jahvid Best highlight clips. That’s what gets me going."- Jim Schwartz, Detroit Lions head coach
Pack gets Alex Green from Hawaii
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