NCAA Selection Show Open Thread
by norcalnick on Mar 13, 2011 2:30 PM PDT
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OK, so the Bears aren't involved. But that doesn't mean we can't get excited for a month long celebration of bracket madness. Amongst the teams that Cal fans might care about in some capacity, various bracket projections give us the following estimations:
Arizona: 4-6 seed
UCLA: 7-10 seed
Washington: 9-11 seed (one site I looked at had UW as a 7, but I have a hard time seeing that)
USC: 12 seed play-in / last four out
So, does USC even get in? Do UCLA and Washington manage to avoid the dreaded 8-9 seed that will lead to an encounter with a team like Kansas, Ohio St., or Pittsburgh? Will Arizona get slotted at home in Tucson or shipped out to some god-forsaken place like Cleveland? How badly will BYU's honor-code slide hurt their seed? Also, be on the lookout for previous Cal non-conference opponents Notre Dame, San Diego St., Kansas, Temple, and Boston College. All but Boston College are safely in the field and the first three will be in line for very high seeds.
And don't forget to sign up for CGB's Tournament Pick 'Em, where you can join Zoonews, andrewxmok and Berkelium97 in the pantheon of prognosticating perfection!
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I hope to god $C is out . . . because then the what ifs start to pop in my head wondering if Cal would have gotten an invite with a win over them.
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It's very unlikely; Cal would have had to beat Arizona, at the very least
USC has better wins than Cal. The reason they’re getting something of a pass on bad losses is that the team that suffered those losses (with Bryce Jones and no Jio Fontan) is not the current USC roster. Otherwise their record and computer numbers would make them a complete tournament non-factor.
And Cal’s record and computer numbers look a fair bit like USC’s.
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Completely off topic, but fun
I’m busy watching Cal swimmer and Olympian Nathan Adrian swimming through syrup on Mythbusters.
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One seeds
Ohio St. (#1 overall), Kansas, Pitt and Duke. Nothing surprising.
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UAB and Clemson grab two of the last at-large spots – bad news for USC.
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REALLY bad.
UAB? Really? Their resume is crap.
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Wow, UW got a seven. I'm wrong!
Anybody think they can knock off UNC (if they beat Georgia, of course)?
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If they caught fire NBA Jam style, maybe
UNC looked pretty weak v. Duke today
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Georgia? AND a 10 seed?
Some teams are going to get hosed. USC, VT, St. Mary’s…
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Postgame Handshake
“Good game Wildcats. Remember, anyone can get a $200k signing bonus from Kentucky, it takes a pro to know how to invest it. Here’s my card.”
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by slims on Mar 13, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Oooohhhh...
Potential Duke/Michigan game in the 2nd round
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Zona with a great seed AND a great draw
5/12 be damned
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Arizona
Got sent to Tulsa – not that far, but not in Tucson either. But if they can get to the sweet 16 they’re playing in Anaheim
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I would presume that Arizona is hosting in Tucson and thus was ineligible to be sent there in any event
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
Oh, that didn’t occur to me. Interesting that AZ would agree to do that – you’d think they would want the chance to play closer to home.
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Agreement?
It’s a rule. You’re not allowed to play in your home arena.
It’s okay, however, to play against Cal in a venue six blocks from your home arena. (See University of Pittsburgh, 2002.)
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I meant in the sense that presumably Arizona would have to want to be the hosts and agree to do it, thus removing one location that they would like to play near.
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I don't get why the teams with automatic bid
are always shown to be that excited when their matchup is announced…I guess because they get to be on TV?
by LEastCoastBears on Mar 13, 2011 3:21 PM PDT reply actions
I’m guessing because just making the bracket is the highlight of their season
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Hey, I’d be glad if I were in Northern Colorado and there was finally video proof that I exist.
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Northern Colorado
Their colors are blue and gold and they’re the Bears!
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Imposters.
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Penn State: Horrible 10 seed, or most horrible 10 seed?
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John Wooden Memorial Autobid?
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Got to like UConn on the bottom half of the West
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Jeez, we might have Big East teams playing each other in the 2nd round. That’s really weird.
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well, that’s almost unavoidable with 11 teams making it from the Big East
by LEastCoastBears on Mar 13, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
USC running out of time
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Spoke too soon
Play-in vs. Virginia Commonwealth
So… last at-large bid to them, then
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I wonder if that will ever actually happen. The 16 seeds don’t even end up being good low-major teams because it’s the teams that pulled off weird conference tourney upsets.
And now, with the play-in games, that just lowers the chances even further.
It’s gotta be some kind of situation like when the Stanford women lost to a 16 seed because they had like 3 starters out with injuries.
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or if Kentucky gets a 1-seed next year, and then all their players are suspended immediately following the selection show!
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 13, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, if USC got an 11 and UW got a 7
Gotta think that UCLA might even pull a 6 seed.
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Man, I wanted Belmont as my upset pick
But drawing Wisconsin is harsh. Don’t think I can go out on a limb for that one.
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Definitely the Ken Pomeroy All-Star bracket there
Isn’t Utah State in that pod as well?
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UCLA with a 7 seed against Michigan St.
That’s supposed to be a final four matchup right?
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Michigan State will win because that’s just what Michigan State does in the NCAA tournament.
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I secretly hate them, so I’m happy.
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 13, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
If we get a 4 and they get a 1 it wouldn’t be surprising for that to be a potential 2nd round matchup.
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Im not sure him or Kenny have any idea what they are talking about. They say the vaguest thing.
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If you mean Barkley have to agree. Not sure how much he follows college ball and he’s stumbling all over himself.
He does that with the NBA too
I mean, the whole point of having him there is for him to say super-random shit that turns into bulletin-board material.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
I’d just be stunned if they didn’t pick the 4th place Pac-10 team for the NIT. Especially if WSU (6th place) is supposed to be a “lock.”
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I’m sure we’re in. We might even get a home game. But, I’m sure our draw will be unfavorable and will involve playing some East Coast team in their home building while wearing tutus and scuba gear early in the morning.
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Nice that the committee respects the Pac-10 this year
/Still bitter about getting an 8 across from the best team in the nation last year
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You’re still bitter about that?
I’m trying to get over playing NCState in their backyard.
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And Oklahoma in theirs? And Penn in theirs????
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$C is in and St. Mary's is out?
Wow
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KenPom has USC @45 and SMC @46.
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 13, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
SMC’s resume really isn’t too storng
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 13, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Lesson from all of this for St. Mary's
Don’t lose games late in the year. Especially games to San Diego.
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And...
…don’t be Saint Mary’s.
Well, I guess they can’t help that…
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Don’t hate on St. Mary’s just because they went further in the tournament last year than Cal.
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That’s not why I hat them. I’m just generally not big on mid majors who only have to play 6 or fewer tough games a season. Same reason I hate Boise State football with the fire of a thousand suns. Well, that and the fact that Boise State is barely a college.
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"Have" to?
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
Poor choice of words
And probably an exaggeration on my part anyway. Off the top of my head, I think St. Mary’s played Gonzaga 3 times, BYU, SDSU, Utah State, St. John’s (?), and Vanderbilt. If you count Portland being good (SMC played them twice),then that’s 10 “tough” games right there.
They probably should have been in. Definitely a better resume, IMO, then UAB.
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My point is, most of them WANT more difficult schedules
because the selection committee keeps telling people that they can’t get bids without playing tough schedules (or winning their auto bid).
The problem is that most of them can’t get the big (read: BCS conference) boys to play them on even terms.
I mean, Gonzaga got an 11 seed this year. Utah State got a 12. I really don’t think the thirty ducks in a row that USU dispatched this year did their cause a whole lot of good. By all indications, they’d have been relegated to the NIT with one untimely loss in the WAC tournament.
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
they’d lose the Derby matches with USF and Santa Clara. St. Mary’s is right where it needs to be, no need to overreach.
by Josie Becker on Mar 13, 2011 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
CU got screwed. I thought they were in for sure.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 13, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Now we wait to see Dicky V have a meltdown again over St. Mary's not getting in
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Colorado didn't have a "Style of play" that fit tournament?
Does Gene Smith close his eyes while watching a Big Ten game?
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Jeez, did he really say that? God, I hope that wasn’t the real reason why.
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He literally said that. Their “Style of Play” is why their not in the tournament.
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Eh, that was a non-answer
The reason Colorado is not in the tournament is their nonconference SOS. They’re the latest team to be (arguably unfairly) crucified for that sin.
He ducked the question to avoid being accused of being “overly numbers-focused” and “not watching the games.”
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
I thought Harvard had a much better resume than VCU or UAB
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KState v. UCLA in regional final? This guy is crazy!
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K St. is more likely to lose in the first round.
Utah St. has a higher Kenpom rating than K St.
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True, but Mormons have a documented history of underachieving in the NCAAs
(I’m serious. I have no idea why, but BYU and Utah State have been two of the worst underachievers in the last decade.)
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Already filled in my bracket! Go and fill in your bracket right now. More information here.
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You’re going to lose!
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This is ridiculous guys
Forget VCU and UAB…how can the committee in good conscience let KSU be a 5 seed, and then leave out the 21 win team that BEAT KSU three times? It makes no sense!
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I still can’t believe Florida is a 2 seed. They lost to Jacksonville and UCF this year.
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This is what happens when you let people from Ohio make decisions.
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We’re probably lucky to have a basketball tournament at all instead of a ho-down or vegetable festival.
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shindig was always in the mix, as was a hootenanny
by Josie Becker on Mar 13, 2011 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Then it’s a good thing there’s a couple people here not running this blog…………..
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Yknow I hate that head to head analysis. Colorado could have beaten KSU 3 times and then lost every other game.
This is not to say that Colorado didn’t deserve it. But I’m saying that I need to see more information than the KSU-Colorado head to head.
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But the other part of their analysis was that they won 18 other games. So, they didn’t lose every other game.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 13, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
No, but you seemed to be saying the KSU bit was meaningless on its own. I’m saying that 3 wins over a good team like KSU in the context of a 21-win season in the Big 12 is not meaningless.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 14, 2011 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm actually far less impressed by three wins over K-State than three over three different good teams
Beating the same team three times just means you have a good matchup against that specific team, not that you yourself are that great.
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If Jay Bilas doesn’t demand that the Gene Smith commit Seppuku, I’d be surprised. He is absolutely flipping out.
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He flips out every year.
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@sportspickle Rick Pitino’s team is playing Morehead State. Well played, selection committee
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 13, 2011 4:14 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
So everything I’m hearing so far is that the committee did a horrible job this year.
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VCU is rated 84th by Pomeroy. We might as well have deserved a rematch with USC.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Mar 13, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
So... when is the NIT selection show?
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How exactly
is UW’s resume this year stronger than ours last year? Fucking uw must have a guy on the inside.
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They game the system
Play like crap all season, then win the Pac-10 tourney.
That being said, they’re going out in the second round, so whatever.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Mar 13, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Any Wofford fans in the house??? WOFFORD!
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Whoa, just looked at Colorado OOC SOS
It’s like close to dead last. That must have been what killed them.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Mar 13, 2011 4:38 PM PDT reply actions
(out of conference strength of schedule)
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by Avinash Kunnath on Mar 13, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Let that be a lesson: Don’t travel to Harvard!
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 13, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
ESPN says “Colorado’s nonconference schedule ranked No. 331 in the nation.”
And who knew there’s a Western New Mexico?
Ironically, that didn't even impact the numbers
SOS doesn’t count non-Division I opponents. As far as I can tell, the committee completely ignores those games (except maybe to anecdotally hammer you if you’re incompetent enough to actually lose one; then again, Utah got a 5 seed a few years ago despite losing to Southwest Baptist).
"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.
I really hope Charles Barkley also does color commentary for the Women’s Tournament Selection Special!!!
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I don’t get all the Charles hate in here. Were you expecting him to drop knowledge on y’alls? Dude’s here to play the class clown.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Mar 13, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
But he wasn’t funny! He actually tried to say smart stuff, but failed!
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I was busy furiously typing updates for SBN Bay Area, but I didn’t really hear anything unbelievably dumb.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Mar 13, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
SB Nation's printable bracket!
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by Avinash Kunnath on Mar 13, 2011 4:58 PM PDT reply actions
I like how prior to USC’s selection the poll was about 2 to 1 in favor of USC being out, but now the USC in votes have taken the lead!
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Speaking of USC
Kevin O’Neill was reinstated earlier today after his 1-game suspension
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By my quick count
Cal was 3-10 against teams in the NCAA field this year
Wins:
Temple
Ucla
USC
Losses:
Arizona (2)
Washington (2)
USC (2)
Ucla
Notre Dame
Kansas
SDSU
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