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Katie Thomas of the New York Times reports.

"But there is a chance it will never come to that because the university is considering reversing course. After originally saying it would take at least $80 million in private donations to reinstate the five teams, officials recently said they would accept $25 million to guarantee the return of the teams for a shorter time if supporters could demonstrate a long-term plan for financing the teams. The Cal athletic director, Sandy Barbour, said she had received a proposal from supporters of the affected teams that includes about $12 million in pledged donations. Officials are said to be considering a range of options, from reinstating none to some or all of the teams, and an announcement is expected Thursday.

Barbour said the university’s decision to consider reinstating the teams was in reaction to the outcry by supporters of the cut teams, not to a dawning unease about how Cal would comply with Title IX.

"There was, as we anticipated, a lot of emotion, a lot of passion," Barbour said, "and quite frankly a little bit more of a call to action perhaps than we anticipated." "

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This is great news – I’ll admit that I’ve been very pessimistic about the chances for this money to actually be raised and for the athletic department to keep the sports anyway. If they pull it off it will say a great deal about the Cal community.

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by norcalnick on Feb 8, 2011 6:27 PM PST reply actions  

It will say even more about the original dumbness of the idea. I just hope they do it before anyone else transfers. And that they don’t just dump them again when the state budget comes out.

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by natteringnabob on Feb 8, 2011 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Until now, Cal had been fulfilling Title IX requirements by asserting that it met the "interests and abilities" of its female students, one of three so-called prongs that institutions can choose to comply with the law. When a university cuts even one women’s team, it can no longer rely on that claim, nor can it argue that it has a history of expanding opportunities for women, which is another option for compliance. Now, Cal has effectively backed itself into a corner and is left with only the third option — proving that female participation in athletics is proportionate to female undergraduate enrollment in the university.

So the author’s saying that, excepting proportionate participation, women’s teams are untouchable when considering Title IX compliance and cutting sports?

by Yes We Cannon on Feb 8, 2011 6:57 PM PST reply actions  

Not necessarily untouchable, but untouchable w/o equal cuts on the men’s side?

by boomtho on Feb 8, 2011 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s what I would assume, otherwise cutting Gymnastics and Field Hockey never would have been OKd

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by norcalnick on Feb 8, 2011 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

No, I think the article is stating that if any woman’s sport is cut, the new athlete gender perctentage has to reflect that of the school. That would not be possible without cutting a massive amount of additional men’s scholarships, thus annoiting women’s sports untouchable.

Personally, I would assume that the Athletics Department had considered this prior to determining which sports should be cut, and that the plan they originally developed would be in compliance. I don’t know Title IX, but I wonder what is acutally meant by “interests and abilities”.

As an added sidenote: they are currently cutting 40 women’s scholarships, and over 110 men’s.

by chowder on Feb 8, 2011 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

It annoys me that Title IX is inflexible enough that it’s holding large numbers of sports hostage.

by boomtho on Feb 8, 2011 7:04 PM PST reply actions  

As far as I am concerned, the sports that are not financially dependent on the university (football and basketball) should not be counted as part of the Title IX equation. If baseball does take university funds, then it most certainly should.

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by AndyHogan14 on Feb 8, 2011 7:06 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

What’s interesting in the article is that Cal is being bashed by both Title IX opponents and proponents. It’s a very frustrating battle that is damn near impossible to win.

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by norcalnick on Feb 8, 2011 7:10 PM PST reply actions  

What does “Save Title IX” mean exactly?

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2011 8:06 PM PST reply actions  

Maybe something along the lines of “Maintain Title IX Compliance”?

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by atomsareenough on Feb 8, 2011 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Like… Save its status as “compliant”?

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by atomsareenough on Feb 8, 2011 8:26 PM PST up reply actions  

It means that Avi blew it in transcribing from memory

The New York Times headline:

“UC Berkeley May Restore Teams to Satisfy Title IX”

compared to Avi’s headline:

“Cal May Restore Cut Teams to Save Title IX”

Simple error. People make such errors all the time.

by FiatSlug on Feb 8, 2011 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

The title on the front page of the New York Times is “Cal May Reinstate Cut Teams for Title IX.” Then on the article page “Facing Title IX Pressure, Cal May Restore the Teams It Cut.” What I love most about this is that we’re referred to as Cal.

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by CaliforniaEternal on Feb 8, 2011 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

So, you're saying the article's title changed.

Fascinating. I wonder what would motivate the nytimes.com website to do that.

by FiatSlug on Feb 9, 2011 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

OFN

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by carp on Feb 8, 2011 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

WTF?

I’m super glad that the potentially cut teams will likely gain at least a few more years (and hopefully by them the economy would have rebounded and we can all just fret about the lack of state funding to keep Cal academically competitive against other top institutions), but this Title IX thing is just insane. I didn’t realize how much constraints is caused by Title IX, although this article does answer the questions why the number of women athletes does not add up to the number of male athletes (even though there are more women teams).

Regardless of the actual reason (and I’m sure the fund raising, etc. are a huge part of this potential decision reverse), the end (not cutting any sports) justifies the mean.

by LEastCoastBears on Feb 8, 2011 9:11 PM PST reply actions  

If the teams remain cut

It looks like a lot of the male teams would have serious roster reduction. I’m not sure most of us fans realized that. The article pointed to Football, Crew, and Men’s Water Polo as likely sources of these cuts, that’s the cash cow programs plus two of the currently most successful programs.

by LEastCoastBears on Feb 8, 2011 9:16 PM PST reply actions  

We made the front page!!

I had already read the article, when it was not on the front page and since then the good folks at the NY Times decided to feature the link to the Cal article in the most noticeable spot on their home page.

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by AndyHogan14 on Feb 8, 2011 10:13 PM PST reply actions  

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