DBD 11.9.11 Return to Berkeley
by Rishi on Nov 9, 2011 6:46 AM PST
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Yesterday, I audited a class at Haas as part of the b-school application process. I took off from work a little early and BARTed over to Berkeley.
Now it's been a few years since I've graduated from Cal. The first year after graduation, I still had a lot of friends in Berkeley, so I visited pretty often. After that, I still had a few, so here and there. Last year, I pretty much only went for the football games and maybe to visit friends who had graduated, but still lived in the city of Berkeley. So, visiting was more about seeing the people and the city; not really the campus.
So on the walk from BART all the way up to Haas (through the "scenic route"), it was a bit of a surreal feeling. A walk I've done probably a hundred times, yet haven't done in years. And that too during actual class hours, which meant I saw the students walking to and from class, hanging out on the lawn, grabbing coffee at FSM... all the stuff I was doing several years ago.
Because I'm a bit overnostalgic, I threw on some tunes that reminded me of my time at Cal and walked. Past VLSB, the Main Stacks, Memorial Glade, the Campanile... remembering what it was like to be doing this. Went through a class at Haas.
Then walked back to BART, past Wheeler... and automatically started heading back towards my old apartment before I realised what I was doing. The most odd part of all of this is it didn't feel weird; it felt like I was just back in routine again.
So that's my story of visiting Berkeley again as a "student". What's your "Back to Berkeley" story?
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Sachin fell 24 runs short of the hundredth century!
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Woot on the win… too bad on Sachin falling short.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 8:04 AM PST up reply actions
Sachin Tendulkar is one of the greatest batsman of all times. But now he is falling short.
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Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 8:16 AM PST up reply actions
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If you making fun of me and responding to half my comments with “WHOLESALE REGIME CHANGE” bothered me, I’d stop commenting.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 8:45 AM PST up reply actions
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Regime didn’t change, just the branding!
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by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 8:49 AM PST up reply actions
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by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 9:00 AM PST up reply actions
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I don’t see how loving to punch someone in the face counts as loving that person.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah. I suppose if you’re a Bollywood fan, you’d have to believe it’s going to come during the India/Australia series coming up.
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by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 8:12 AM PST up reply actions
Paterno to resign at the end of this season
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According to The Associated Press, Paterno has decided retire as the school is immersed in the sex abuse scandal involving former assistant Jerry Sandusky.
A person familiar with the decision told the AP an announcement will be made Wednesday.
The Nittany Lions will face No. 17 Nebraska on Saturday in what will be Paterno’s final home game.
Paterno, 84, is in his 46th season as coach of Penn State and his 409 victories are the most among major college coaches. He won national championships in 1982 and 1986.
Beyond winning games and becoming a Hall of Fame coach, Paterno is an iconic figure at Penn State, where he has been an assistant or head coach for more than 60 years. He has raised millions for the school and the library at the school bears his name.
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This whole situation is very sad
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I thought I’d feel more pity for Paterno, but failure to report/investigate child molestation claims is too serious for me to overlook.
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I feel zero pity for Paterno. He should go to prison and get exactly what he deserves.
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Paterno should go to prison…?
I understand him leaving, but prison?
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Oh, I’m not speaking in terms of legal retribution, more like karmic retribution.
He’s probably not going to be charged with anything by the Pennsylvania justice system.
I wonder if there would be a case for a civil suit.
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Whether a civil suit would have any basis would, of course, depend on the specific facts regarding Paterno’s actions / failure to act, and on the exact requirements of Pennsylvania law. Ordinarily, people do not have a legal duty to act to help others. If you see somebody dying in the street, the law imposes no duty on you to help him or her, or even to call 9-1-1. You can’t be held liable for just letting the person die, as long as you had nothing to do with causing the illness or injuries.
But some statutes impose a special duty on certain people. For example, schools have a duty to render aid to a child, because the child is entrusted into the care of the school during the school day. And in most states there are statutes requiring the reporting of suspected child abuse by teachers, doctors, etc. From what the “experts” have been saying, it sounds like Paterno fulfilled the minimum requirement of Pennsylvania law by reporting the allegation of child molestation to his boss. He probably did not have a legal duty to do anything further. However, if Paterno did anything to encourage parents to put their children to Sandusky’s care (for example, sponsoring Sandusky’s program in some way or allowing him to use Penn State’s facilities for his program) after he became aware of the allegation of child molestation, there might be a basis for a civil suit based on that.
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Also, the reality is people could sue knowing they have a minimal success level at Court, but hoping to get a quick settlement.
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That’s always the reality. But I was trying to consider whether there might be a case with some potential merit.
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You’re so cute when you try to determine if there might be a case with some potential merit.
If we needed potential merit before bringing cases, America would grind to a halt!
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For the record, I don’t think I’ve heard Twist patronize someone, in CGB or in Real Life. Usually its self-depreciation or nonsense.
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He managed to piss my girlfriend off within probably 8 seconds of meeting her. That’s impressive!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
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Oh he was definitely kidding. It still pissed her off!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
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CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!
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I don’t think that JoePa violated Pennsylvania law. But Im not a Penn crim law expert, such as yourself!
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I understand Kod's sentiment here
I don’t think Paterno’s statement acknowledged how pivotal he COULD have been in potentially saving some of these kids (or others later on?) from the horror they experienced. I think he should resign after Saturday’s game and SHOULD be investigated for culpability.
While I wish him no ill will, hopefully he will spend the rest of his days pondering what he COULD have done.
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
If he hasn’t been wondering why this was never followed-up on for 8 years, I somehow doubt he’s pondering his guilt now.
I disagree
I bet the public exposure/humiliation has put his internal guilt right in his face. It’s easier to ignore something when you’re not ashamed of it BECAUSE other people know about it. Once they do…..
I’ve made a few stupid decisions in my life (no one got hurt, etc., but the potential was there…..) and it was much worse when family/friends found out.
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
I haven’t followed all the press conferences, but I’ll accept that once he actually says anything that suggests taking responsibility instead of just shock and generic condolences for the victims/families. With his emphasis on moral character, I expect him to be doing nothing less the public seppuku right now if he has any actual integrity outside of football.
the worst part...
the more I’ve thought about this, the worse I think it is.
I could sort of forgive Paterno for not reporting it to the police… I was thinking what I would do if something like this happened to me and my best friend…
but what is simply unforgivable, is unfathomable, is Paterno not kicking the guy off campus… I mean how could JoePa look at this guy in the eyes knowing what he had done??? How?
It’s just appalling and abhorrent.
Joe Pa should be deeply ashamed.
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Not defending Paterno in the least, but I can sort of understand how this happens. GA tells him something he finds it really hard to believe about a long time good friend and colleague. Paterno wasn’t there, he didn’t see anything, he doesn’t know the truth of the matter, but it’s serious, so he passes up the chain.
Time goes by, nothing happens, there’s no confirmation that this is actually true, and his good friend he’s known for years is truly a monster.
This story tests your world view, if somebody tells you something bad that is diametrically opposed to all you know about a person you (think) you know really well, and indeed have known for a long time, do you immediately believe them?
Again, not defending his lack of action in the matter, just for Joe Pa to go from years of respect to instant loathing for his colleague (in light of the lack of any confirmation) is somewhat understandable. As a personal note, the one thing I don’t understand, is why he never confronted the guy; I know I would have.
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Time goes by, nothing happens, there’s no confirmation that this is actually true,
1, I don’t believe this is the case. but if it was, then shame on him for not finding out more.
what you’re missing here is that this was not the last kid that Sanducky molested / raped. So Paterno’s (and everyone else’s) inaction led to more innocent children going through this. Read that passage I posted again and tell me how if you were JoePa you wouldn’t be following up on this.
Yeah, I don’t know many of the details, but just based on the outline that I’ve heard, it seems at least plausible that JoePa passed it up the chain, thought he did his duty, and when nothing happened he might’ve just figured that it was investigated and wasn’t credible or whatever, so he figured that was that. I mean, who knows.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 9:36 AM PST up reply actions
Paterno is being publicly shamed. But its not enough. And even though I have no children, to imagine any one of my family members having to suffer through this is enraging enough.
I believe most educators have some sort of mandated reporter status – I guess a college football coach doesn’t have to do this, but anyone working for/with a charity or working with high school students (even in the recruiting sense) needs to be required to report this type of activity. The fact that he didn’t follow up the process is ridiculous.
He was probably too senile at the time of being reported to reflect on anything. Idiot. This is a horrible situation.
College kids will do anything to avoid class.
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Apparently, under Penn law, Paterno’s role was to alert his boss. The mandatory reporting relates specifically to the head of the institution. So, by alerting his boss, his legal responsibilies were met.
That does not concern his moral responsibilities, however.
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JoePa is the most powerful man on that campus. He could have made sure shit got done properly.
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Again, a moral issue, not a legal one.
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The moral issue is an even bigger deal with Paterno than with other coaches, because he has always sold himself as being an especially morally upstanding coach, whom parents would want to have guiding their sons. Not that this kind of moral failure would be acceptable in any coach.
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I was inclined to give Paterno the benefit of the doubt when I first saw the story break over the weekend. But with each passing day, the facts/allegations that come out paint everyone involved in a worse and worse light. (The grand jury indictment was a disturbing read.) I have yet to read anything to suggest that Paterno committed a criminal act or omission. But I can’t help but see this as a moral failing on his and the university’s part.
It’s well and good that Paterno has decided to retire. But I don’t think he should be allowed to coach this weekend vs. Nebraska or for the remainder of the season. Nor do I think Mike McQueary should be allowed to coach.
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by Ohio Bear on Nov 9, 2011 8:45 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I read the report too and it was sickening.
I think someone in the press conference should read to Paterno the “lockerroom shower” section… just read it out lout to him… and then ask him how it’s possible that he could continue to associate with the monster.
The other I had when I read that part was: how can you be Mike McQueary and not do more? If you’re not going to call the police right then and there, why aren’t you at least getting that poor kid out of there?
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It’s so disturbing to me… I can’t even imagine how heinous that must have been to witness (obviously let alone for the 10 year old to experience).
but one thing I am worried about is that McQueary becomes the low man on the totem pole scape goat. I agree with you that he should have got the kid out right then and there… there just simply is no excuse… but my guess is it was just so extraordinarily not what he had ever expected to see he didn’t know how to immediately process it. I think going to Paterno was the right thing to do.
Agreed. There’s a lot of focus on Paterno, the AD, and the university president, but McQueary’s role in this is somewhat overlooked.
I could seem him being so horrified/shocked that he didn’t do anything right away other than go to his coach.
However, to not do anything subsequently when it was apparent that nothing would be done? That’s hard to excuse.
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I mean, the answer is kind of obvious: he feared as a result of his reporting, the Penn State program would greatly suffer and he would lose his job and livelihood. Is that morally right? Absolutely not. But I’d guess that’s probably why he didn’t do more.
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That’s undoubtedly true. I’m sure he figured that if he reported it, his career at Penn State was over, and possibly in college coaching anywhere. It would be a tough thing for anybody to do. But how he can look at himself in the mirror every morning, knowing that more children were victimized because he wanted to protect his career, I don’t know.
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By “reported it,” I mean calling the police himself once it was clear that nobody at Penn State was going to do anything to stop the guy. Apparently he, like Paterno, did fulfill his minimum legal obligation by reporting it to his boss.
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
Did JoePa know conclusively that the allegations were true? Just going on what I’ve read and people are saying here, it looks like all he heard was a report from a grad assistant which may or may not have been true. Now, of course, if it were me, I would take that report extremely seriously. Surely I’d confront Sandusky, alert the police, maybe try to talk to the child, I dunno. But maybe Paterno was sure it couldn’t be true.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
..and how do you know this? If I told you, I dunno, that I saw your dad molesting someone, what would your initial inclination be?
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
You seem to want to give Paterno the benefit of the doubt in every way: he is excused because he couldn’t know for sure the allegations were true, and he is excused because he could be certain that the allegations were not true. If he couldn’t be sure they were true, how could he be sure they were false? Why would this graduate assistant make it up? And if he really believed the graduate assistant made it up, why was that guy not investigated and fired? Why would Paterno keep a guy on his staff who was so crazy and sick that he would falsely accuse a fellow coach of raping a child in the locker room?
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Agreed. He cant have it both ways.
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Probably because this is what went through his brain (not kidding):
*football football football football grad student talking to me WHAT DID HE JUST SAY OH GOD FUCK THATS AWFUL MAKE PROBLEM GO AWAY GO AWAY PROBLEM GO AWAY OH GOD OK PROBLEM WENT AWAY football football football football football football football metamucil *
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
Dude, I’m not excusing him. I even said I would have acted completely differently if presented with such a report. I’m just saying I can plausibly imagine a scenario in which he doesn’t give a ton of credence to it. Obviously he was negligent (in at least a moral sense if not a strictly legal one), but I think a lot of people are quick to make the leap to accuse him of willful negligence, when I don’t think it’s clear that was the case.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
So why did Paterno not take any action with respect to the graduate assistant, whom under your scenario, he would have to believe was falsely accusing a fellow coach of child-rape?
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How the hell am I supposed to know? I don’t know all the details here obviously. I haven’t read the grand jury report. I don’t know how detailed the GA’s report to Paterno was. I don’t know how much longer the GA stayed with the team. I don’t know why the GA didn’t go directly to the police himself. There are obviously a lot of questions here.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
The details are available if you have the stomach to read them
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I think I’d rather not.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions
Then, many of your questions will go unanswered.
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This is way too black and white in my mind, it’s an allegation, he is obliged to (and does) pass it up the chain, nothing happens.
Does he at this point have to believe someone was lying? It’s also possible to believe the GA was mistaken in what he saw. Again not defending him, but I’m not fond these -/+ binary judgments.
I’ve been in business for many years, and dealt with 100’s of complaints from tenants (about other tenants, contractors etc.) and they always seem to think it’s my responsibility to do something immediately, based solely on their hearsay. I always that I will investigate and take proper action based on the facts I find. 90% of the time, these complaints are erroneous, but the tenants complaining aren’t lying per se, they are just mistaken.
I’ve also been on the other side, knowing that a crime has been committed and trying to get the police to get involved, only to be rebuffed, because I wasn’t an eyewitness to the crime.
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Seriously… if one of your tennants said she personally witnessed another tenant raping a ten year old, what would you do?
Like said, I’d call the cops, and the cops would say they couldn’t do anything unless the woman would talk to them.
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A much more relevant question, since Cugel doesn’t really have an emotional connection to his tenants is: if one of your tenants said they personally witnessed your brother/dad raping a ten year old, what would you do?
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
That’s not true, I do have an emotional connection to my tenants, of course is stronger with the tenants how have rented from me longer – and there are some tenants I have negative feelings about as well.
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I appreciate you bringing that up, but I think my analogy still stands.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
“He says he saw a child being anally raped in the locker room shower, but maybe he was just mistaken? Maybe the kid just dropped the soap.” Seriously?
Yes, I do think Paterno had to be very, very concerned that one of these people was probably lying. I’ve represented many people accused of sexual harassment, and am very well aware of the “he said / she said” stuff, the exaggerated claims, the stuff that was consensual at the time, and suddenly becomes “harassment” after someone gets fired. I’m way more skeptical than most about those kinds of claims. But I just don’t see any, “oh it was just all a harmless misunderstanding” coming out of the Penn State scenario. I don’t see how a guy mistakes seeing a man having anal sex with a child. Either he saw it or he is lying. And I don’t see how Paterno, or anyone else in the Penn State administration, could just let it go and assume it was all just some sort of misunderstanding, and never demand any kind of investigation of anybody to find out exactly what happened.
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This is all predicated on the idea that Paterno is a normal human being with a healthy grasp of life outside of college football. Given what I’ve read about some of these coaches and their relentlessness in their jobs 24/7, I’ve sometimes wondered whether they would have all their marbles straight if you took away the football.
Its hard to say what anyone would do in the same situation without actually being in that situation. Particularly when it comes to this type of situation with child abuse. A lot of policemen, who have seen horrible things and are trained to handle these types of situations, quit after witnessing repeated child abuse. Its not an easy thing to really say you can or will perform in the same capacity.
He could have felt sure, is my point. Or maybe more precisely, incredibly disinclined to believe the allegation.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
I was talking about the graduate assistant, not Paterno.
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Oh, yeah. That I don’t understand at all. If I ever witnessed anything like that, well first of all I’d like to think I’d intervene while it was happening. Secondly I would make damn sure the cops came right away and hauled the perpetator’s ass straight to jail.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
No one ever knows “conclusively” that anything they did not personally witness is true. I don’t think that excuses everybody from moral responsibility for everything they did not personally witness.
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This.
Who amongst us, upon seeing a ten year old child being raped in the shower, would not immediately dial 911? (don’t answer that, I don’t want to know) I just don’t see how anybody saw that action as being optional.
I truly believe I would have called 911 in that situation.
(Damn, you said don’t answer that. Following directions fail…)
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or Rome.
Then I would have immediately dialed IX I I !
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I laughed at this
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I woulda called 912. It’s the real number!
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How about someone put one his kids’ name as subsitute for “Victim 2” when reading it to him. I hate to have his kids hear it but he deserves to know what the parents of that child went through
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To be honest I don’t feel like I know enough of who knew what, when, to judge. But I will certainly judge Sandusky harsher than all the rest, by far.
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really? you know that Sandusky was anally raping a ten year old boy in the team’s shower facilities. It was reported to Joe Pa. Sandusky was not only not reported to the police, he was allowed to maintain an office on campus and contact with the team. You don’t think that’s enough to judge?
Read this from the Grand Jury report
The graduate assistant, who was familiar with Sandusky, was going to put some newly purchased sneakers in his locker and get some recruiting tapes to watch. It was about 9:30 p.m. As the graduate assistant entered the locker room doors, he was surprised to find the lights and showers on. He then heard slapping sounds.He believed the sounds to be those of sexual activity. As the graduate assistant put the sneakers in his locker, he looked into the shower. He saw a naked boy, Victim 2, whose age he estimated to be 10 years old, with his hands up against the wall, being subjected to anal intercourse by a naked Sandusky. The graduate assistant was shocked but noticed that both Victim 2 and Sandusky saw him. The graduate assistant left immediately, distraught.
This is what JoePa was made aware of. This is what he knew. And yet this guy stayed on campus for years after.
I'm not saying JoePa is blameless
Just saying I’ll give due process a chance before I judge them…
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I’m not sure what else you are waiting for. He’s not going to be charged with a crime. He’s not going to be sent to jail. This is probably the extent of the info we’re going to get.
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I don't know
My sense is that this was the result of the investigation. We have three guys indicted (Sandusky, the AD, and the VP of whatever at PSU). The grand jury did not indict Paterno. There was a quote (I don’t remember whether it was in the indictment or not) I read where the grand jury indicated Paterno reported to “his boss” (i.e., the AD), which complied with his legal duty under PA criminal law.
The other “info” we will get is whatever we get from the trials that result out of the multitude of indictments and possible civil suits.
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I’m no big city lawyer, but how can the AD be indicted when he learned of the incident from Paterno, but Paterno isn’t?
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Well, iirc, the AD is indicted on perjury charges. So, I presume he lied at some point in the investigation.
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I see.
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Yes
He was indicted for perjury for lying to the grand jury. So was the PSU VP of whatever.
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sorry (rare disagreement with you here) but that attitude in part has led to this. “due process” is for legal aspects. When presented with this sort of heinous evidence, people are supposed to make a moral judgements on how to respond.
Yes, that must not be forgotten
Sandusky is the undisputed villain # 1
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The grand jury report is apparently very clear on all this, but I really dnt want to read it too closely
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Yes, its completely NMS (Not Mind Safe). I got up to the second victim and I couldn’t go on. Its disgusting.
But it was apparently the victim where Paterno and others found out.
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What is the other one?
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That's correct
Four have never been sanctioned — Northwestern, Boston College, Penn State, Stanfurd. But NW and BC were investigated for point shaving.
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FUCK. Was hoping it wasn’t actually Furd.
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I just went with ‘what answer would really piss me off’
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On the other side of the ledger
The leader? Arizona State with nine NCAA penalties
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Four of the BCS ones
Some non-BCS ones also fit the bill
The bulk of these schools (13) are programs like Air Force, Alabama-Birmingham, Bowling Green, Central Michigan, Florida Atlantic and Kent State that play in second-tier conferences where the pressure, the scrutiny, the level of recruiting and the expectations are smaller.
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Over/Under at 5 years
How long does the NCAA last? What do you take?
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
My guess….Florida International. They’ve been in the league what, like 5 years?
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NCAA Places Florida International U. on 4 Years’ Probation for Rules Violations in 15 Sports
By LIBBY SANDER
The National Collegiate Athletic Association has placed Florida International University on probation for four years after finding that the institution awarded more athletic scholarships than it was permitted to in three sports, and allowed 45 athletes in a total of 15 sports to compete while ineligible.
The problems mark the second major infractions case against the university, following a 2005 finding of violations in its football program. That history was a factor in the sharp
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One of the better articles I've read on this
Why Joe Paterno and Penn State Would Shield a Child Molester
It’s a shame what the money in collegiate athletics has done to corrupt people. The institution at Penn State got too big and there was too much money at stake. What needs to happen is tens of millions of dollars from the Penn State Athletic Department needs to be set aside to compensate the victims. I’m also not opposed to the NCAA using the death penalty on Penn State football program to make sure that nothing like this ever happens again. It’s too bad for the athletes in the system, but when an entire program and university opt to protect themselves and their livelihood over the welfare of defenseless victims, something drastic must be done.
From the article
As late as 2009, Sandusky was on campus running a sleep-away camp for boys as young as nine years old. One alleged victim told the grand jury that Sandusky brought him to a Penn State preseason practice in 2007—a full five years after Paterno was made aware of the shower rape. This is why it’s hard to take seriously Paterno’s statement on Sunday, where he said, "If this is true we were all fooled, along with scores of professionals trained in such things, and we grieve for the victims and their families. They are in our prayers."
I was just talking with a friend about this this morning…
Think about what USF did when the Quintin Dailey stuff came out. Penn State should self impose the severest sanctions possible.
Quintin Dailey?
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Whatd he do
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this is the proper response.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
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I feel so alone
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Spoiler alert
USF discontinued basketball for several years.
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Blame the ginger!
Just because he’s ginger
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by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply actions
You still have Kelly Clarkson and Hillary Duff on your ipod!?!?
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Who doesn't?!
(It was actually Hindi music from my college years)
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Cal Men's Soccer Hosts Stanford Friday in Regular-Season Finale
Friday, Nov. 11
2 p.m. – Stanford (5-10-2, 2-6-1 Pac-12) at Cal (3-8-5, 0-6-3 Pac-12)
Edwards Stadium – Berkeley
Series Record vs. Stanford: 21-20-9
Last Time vs. Stanford: T, 1-1, in double overtime, Oct. 9, 2011 in Stanford, Calif. Coverage: GameTracker, Twitter
Tickets – Adults $8, Seniors $4, Youth (12th Grade and Younger) and Cal Students Free
BERKELEY - California closes the regular season in the second game of the Bay Area Derby with rival Stanford at 2 p.m. on Veterans Day – Friday, Nov. 11 – at Edwards Stadium. In the first match of the home and home series this season, the teams played to a 1-1 tie through two overtimes on Oct. 9 in Stanford, Calif.
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Back to Berks
I too, rarely ever go to Berkeley (other than the occasional basketball or football games). I love to do the stuff that I was usually too busy to do while in school: check out the botanical gardens, look at records at Amoeba and Rasputin (I want Funky Ridms back!), go to the Berkeley Art Museum, etc.
I also love to grab food from one of my favorite spots: Brazil Cafe (the hut not the restaurant), Intermezzo, Cheese Board, etc.
I also like to check out girls and realize how old and washed up I am.
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 7:33 AM PST reply actions
Cheese Board pizza is sooo good. It’s a shame I didn’t discover it until the tail end of my Cal days. In addition to their pizza, I’ve had a few chances to try their pastries and cheeses since I worked at BofA on the same block.
ahhh…brings back memories
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They have some cheese roll that is absolutely incredible.
North side favorites: Chez Panisse (only if parents are in town), Gregoire (potato puffs!) and Cha-Am
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 7:46 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve been wanting to go to Gregoire for months. One of these days.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
fortunately there are several Arizmendi Bakery locations in the Bay Area, which are the same thing as Cheeseboard :)
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
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Oh we love Arizmendi. I think I’d used to go once a week. The cheese rolls, chocolate thingys, scones, pizzas. It’s all good. I used to go to the one by Grand Lake in Oakland.
I live by the lake so that’s my spot as well. I have their number saved to my phone so I can check the pizza of the day.
Also, bonus points now that Top Dog opened across the street.
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Talked to a Top Dog guy recently and he told me they opened on Lakeshore since their location in the CVS on Pleasant Valley may close if they ever get around to closing the CVS, tearing it down and building the crazy Safeway plaza over there. Glad to know that the Top Dog on Lakeshore is doing well.
I don’t know if it’s doing well or not, but I enjoy the convenience.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
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A friend of mine is on the Rockridge Neighborhood Association board. CVS is as good as gone.
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Is this good or bad? That CVS was always kinda ridic. It was like the overstock warehouse for CVS nationwide.
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That sounds awesome. Did they have cool shit there?
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by atomsareenough on Nov 10, 2011 12:07 AM PST up reply actions
No, the total opposite. If you ever need like, fourteen thousand badly made electric fans or party hats or whatever, go there!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 10, 2011 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
I used to spend a lot of time hanging out on Sproul with friends. It was very weird going back a year or so after I graduated and realizing I didn’t really know anybody there anymore
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I used to be one of those idiots that spent a LOT of time hanging out at the GBC.
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Fuck that should read GaliforniaBoldenClogs!
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Me too!
I loved sitting on the lawn in front of Sproul Hall and just watching Sproul Plaza. If I sat there long enough, I’d see people I knew.
Oh yeah, and with my involvement in ISA, I spent A LOT of time on Sproul Plaza flyering. It was actually fantastic for networking.
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You and I are not so different, you and I
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In some ways, we’re all Twist
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Yes, yes. All of us. Yes.
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ps i hated flyering. but i loved hanging out with my friends on sunny days in sproul!
also, i met my gf through isa!
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7 AM flyering was the worst, but it was a necessity.
But hanging out and tabling on Sproul was fun! I used to just hang out there between classes. I was really dedicated.
Also, don’t tell anyone, but I may have done the same thing when I was in college.
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Congrats
You’re welcome for all the efforts in actually establishing these events and growing the organisation.
Life’s a lot tougher when you have nothing to piggyback off.
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I’m just glad ISA still runs on campus!
Though I’m sad that they ran just a Diwali event this year and not an Eid-Diwali banquet :(
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AFAIK, the reason is just dates – Eid and Diwali are moving apart. I think last year they did the same.
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INDIAN FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!
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I'm sad that I have not been back to one of my favourite Berkeley eateries in years...
Mayflower on Allston and University. I loved their Chinese food. Once upon a time, used to eat it multiple times a week.
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so you don't eat multiple times per week?
excellent, excellent…
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I’ve never been to the Berkeley Art Museum or the botanical gardens. But I’ve done all the others while I was a student
In other words, Go Bears!
Go to the rose garden!
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i’ve been there, it’s really nice. i would LOVE to play tennis at those courts, that area is really pretty
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Great weekend basketball games across the street at Cordornices. Also, you can take a trip down the concrete slide!
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Cal Men's Swimming Hosts Stanford in Triple-Distance Meet
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The 2011-12 California men’s swimming team will host Bay Area rival Stanford for a Triple-Distance Meet on Wednesday, Nov. 9, at 2 p.m. at Spieker Aquatics Complex. Wednesday’s meet will not count towards either team’s dual-meet record, but it will feature some of the very best collegiate swimmers in the nation competing in a non-standard event schedule. The official Pac-12 dual meet between the two rivals will be Saturday, Feb. 18 at 1 p.m. at Avery Aquatics Center on the Stanford campus.
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No. 5 Cal WV Heads to Evergreen State Seeking Two Wins
Friday, Nov. 11
7 p.m. – No. 5 Cal (23-4, 13-4 Pac-12) at Washington State (12-14, 4-12 Pac-12)
Bohler Gym – Pullman, Wash.
Series Record vs. the Cougars: 35-22
Last Meeting: W, 3-0 (10/15/11)
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Saturday, Nov. 12
7 p.m. – No. 5 Cal (23-4, 13-4 Pac-12) at No. 11 Washington (18-6, 10-6 Pac-12)
Alaska Airlines Arena – Seattle
Series Record vs. the Huskies: 28-29
Last Meeting: W, 3-1 (10/14/11)
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BERKELEY - The No. 7 California volleyball team takes to the skies again this weekend – flying to Washington for a pair of Pac-12 matches. On Friday, Nov. 11, the Golden Bears (23-4, 13-4 Pac-12) play Washington State (12-14, 4-12 Pac-12) in Pullman. From the Palouse, the Bears then head to the Emerald City for a 7 p.m. match-up with No. 11 Washington (18-6, 10-6) in Seattle on Nov. 12.
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Reminder: Stud muffin WR KEENAN ALLEN(!!) to chat live with fans
Chat Live With All-American Candidate Keenan Allen on Wednesday at 1 p.m. PST
Interact with standout wide receiver
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He’s not a Stud Muffin, he’s a Sex Poodle. Get it right.
Inspiring and completing since1997 since2010!
errrrr....
I think we might need a ruling from the BAM committee on that one….
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Going back for career fair thingies
Anyone ever gone back for job related stuff? I spoke at a CNR round table type thing focused on professionals in the environmental sector. It was sort of depressing because I recognized some of the other firms there and I knew they weren’t hiring. Reminded me how tough it is to get that first job (especially in consulting) and made me feel lucky I got out in ’07!
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So, you graduated Cal in ‘07, and have already been back to campus as an expert? Dammit, I’d better get more impressive real quick.
Cal: Bears with Books.
I went to the alumni house to represent my old firm at a recruiting event. It was kinda fun to meet the wide-eyed students of tomorrow!
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I did a recruiting thing 4 weeks after starting, it was pretty fun.
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You spoke at a roundtable with Coack Nick Rueheisel??
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions
I’m sad nobody else liked this.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 10, 2011 12:09 AM PST up reply actions
Yahoo Sports' ’11 All-Midseason Team
No surprise, Aaron Rodgers is in.
I’m surprised they chose Ray Lewis over Patrick Willis. Thomas Decoud mention for the FS spot that ultimately went to Weddle of the Chargers. Did your mancrush make this list?
FYI: ikoolykedat fucking hates Jimmy Graham.
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Before I clicked the link I was going to bitch that Derrick Johnson is having a far better season than Ray Lewis…but looks like he made the list!
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ATOMS: Packers stock sale may begin as early as next week
Will you shell out $250 to own a share of the team you love?
In a letter published on the Utah Department of Commerce’s website, a law firm representing the Packers has requested feedback from state regulators on a proposed stock sale that would begin "on or around" Nov. 15. According to the document, shares may be sold online and will be more expensive than in past sales—perhaps $250 each.
The Packers, the NFL’s only publicly owned team, have been planning what would be their fifth stock sale. This one would raise funds for renovations at Lambeau Field. There are 112,205 shareholders who own approximately 4.75 million shares. Shares include voting rights, but their value won’t appreciate and there are no dividends.
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Hmmmmm! That’s tempting, but essentially I’d be buying shares that will just be diluted further in the future. It’d essentially be a donation towards the Lambeau renovations. I think I have better things to do with $250 at this point.
However, I did hear some people kicking around the idea that ~2 million Dodger fans could buy shares of the franchise for $500 and run it like the Packers. THAT I would be totally willing to be a part of, because it would be a way to participate in ownership change. Though, that idea is a total longshot. Very doubtful something like that can happen.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
NBA Players reject owners deal, to meet today:
With David Stern’s self-imposed Wednesday deadline for the owners’ current proposal to end the NBA lockout approaching, the owners and NBA Players Association are closing in on scheduling an afternoon meeting, according to reports from ESPN’s Chris Broussard and the New York Times’ Howard Beck.
The meeting comes one day after the NBA players rejected the proposal Stern set forth, but said they would be willing to compromise on the Basketball-Related Income split in return for some concessions on the system. Those concessions include a larger mid-level exception even for luxury-tax paying teams, a less-stingy luxury tax penalty for teams who exceed the threshold consistently and the return of sign-and-trades for tax teams.
In an interview on SportsCenter on Tuesday, Stern said there was no more wiggle room left in the owners’ proposal.
“As of Sunday morning at 3 in the morning there was none left,” Stern said then.
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Pats cut Haynesworth:
The great Albert Haynesworth experiment is over for the New England Patriots.
The team on Tuesday released Haynesworth just a few days after the underperforming defensive lineman clearly struggled in the third quarter of Sunday’s loss to the New York Giants. After getting overpowered by Giants guard David Diehl on a 10-yard touchdown run by Brandon Jacobs with 9:10 remaining in the quarter, Haynesworth did not see the field the rest of the game.
Coach Bill Belichick said Haynesworth’s absence after the play was not due to injury, indicating it was “rotation related.”
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Francona to interview for Cards job:
ST. LOUIS — Former Boston Red Sox manager Terry Francona has interviewed with the St. Louis Cardinals for their manager opening, a person familiar with the negotiations told The Associated Press on Tuesday.
The person spoke on condition of anonymity because no announcement was made. The interview took place in Cincinnati, where Cardinals chairman Bill DeWitt Jr. lives.
Francona managed the Red Sox for eight seasons and left after they wasted a nine-game September lead in the AL wild-card race.
St. Louis is seeking a replacement for Tony La Russa, who retired two days after winning his second World Series in 16 seasons with the Cardinals.
More interviews are planned for Wednesday, believed to be with third base coach Jose Oquendo and Hall of Fame second baseman Ryan Sandberg, who managed the Phillies’ Triple-A team last season.
St. Louis previously interviewed Mike Matheny, Joe McEwing and Chris Maloney. Matheny and Maloney have organizational ties and McEwing played for St. Louis.
The 48-year-old Oquendo has been the third base coach the last dozen years. He played his final 10 major league seasons with the Cardinals from 1986-95 when he was nicknamed the “Secret Weapon” as a nod to his versatility.
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I kind of hope he becomes the Cubs manager with Theo.
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Argue with me baseball fans
Admittedly, I’m not too knowledgeable about baseball, but it seems to me the baseball managers are the most worthless coaches of any major sport. I really don’t understand what they do other than changing pitchers and setting lineups. Seems like baseball coaching has the smallest impact on the performance on the field comapared to all other sports.
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 7:56 AM PST up reply actions
That’s not an argument!
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 7:58 AM PST up reply actions
There is a ridiculous amount of stuff that goes into being successful in baseball. Its very mental. Its the managers job to put all of his charges into the best positions to succeed.
You might see a pitching change here or a dealie there and think thats it. But as we saw with the BoSox this year, a team can EASILY fissure and its the managers job to keep everybody focused on a grind of a season. Easy to lose focus in 162 game season. A lot ofthat is behind the scenes and nobody ever sees it.
Also, there is more that goes on. The managers are calling for bunts, hit and runs, moving the defensive players around
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Now that’s an argument!
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 8:07 AM PST up reply actions
Cubs shoulda hired Sandberg. Dumb move not to do that.
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NinersNation talks David Akers:
Normally I would use this particularly post to look at a specific game-changing play. To continue with the midseason review format though, I thought I’d look at a player who has been a game-changer for the San Francisco 49ers. Normally the kicker is easily overlooked except when he misses a kick. However, 49ers kicker David Akers has been such an integral part of this team that he deserves some additional recognition.
When Akers came to town, he was replacing Joe Nedney, who had spent six seasons with the 49ers. Nedney had some injuries towards the end, but he was one of the most consistent 49ers kickers in recent memory. Inside 40 yards, Nedney was absolutely money. Thankfully, the 49ers kicking game hasn’t missed a beat with Akers.
As the 49ers roll up records they haven’t touched in years, David Akers set one record of his own on Sunday. His 52-yard field goal that got the 49ers on the board in the first quarter was his fourth 50+ field goal of the season. That is a 49ers single-season record, and we’re only halfway through the season. What’s possibly more impressive is that Akers is on pace to break Jerry Rice’s single-season scoring record. Jerry Rice scored 138 points in 1987 and David Akers has 78 halfway through the season. It’s worth noting that Jerry Rice only played 12 games that season. That’s just a little bit amazing.
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SilverAndBlackPride talks injuries before Chargers game:
Unless the Raiders get healthy fast it is hard to see them putting together a solid effort. 11 players missed Tuesday’s practice. And almost all of them are starters.
What worries me the most about the injuries is that Khalif Barnes and Samson Satele both missed practice. If neither guy is able to go it is going to put some severe strain on the offensive line. My guess would be that Joe Barksdale played at left guard and Stephon Heyer at right tackle.
Bruce Campbell has never played left guard, and he seem to be buried on the depth chart. Barksdale has been filling in at left guard, and this lineup would give the Raiders at least a little sense of cohesion.
It is also a line that probably won’t be blocking for Darren McFadden. He is still on crutches.
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Even though its early in the season, FearTheFin looks back at pre-season expectations:
The San Jose Sharks are currently 8-5-1 which is good for fifth in the Western Conference and second in the Pacific Division. After losing three games in a row in early October, San Jose has gone on a tear that is quite remarkable considering they took a six-game road trip out East and came home to face three teams who will probably make the playoffs. It’s easy to forget that the Sharks are 7-1-1 in their last nine games, but it’s even harder to understate just how important (and successful) this run has been.
Sure the penalty kill has been atrocious and the goaltending could definitely be better. By and large however, the Sharks answered their early season adversity by doing what they set out to do this year— establish consistency in the wins column, bank standings points early, and try to avoid facing an uphill climb from February through March. There is still a long, long time to go before meeting those goals, but right now the team is on the right route to get there.
At any rate, at the beginning of the regular season we made some predictions as to what the 2011-2012 Sharks season would entail. Today we take a look back at those predictions and see how we have done.
Joe Pavelski leads the Sharks in goals during the 2011-2012 season. Coming off a season that saw him log a shooting percentage well below his career average, log third minute center duties, and still manage to finish first on the Sharks in shots with 282, Pavelski gets placed on the top line alongside Joe Thornton, quickly falls in love with the reduced responsibility of playing wing compared to his usual center role, and finishes the season with more goals than any Sharks player on the roster.
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better get the PK in order before playoffs….
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
I didn’t know there was place kicking in hockey.
Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.
Isn’t that why they throw octopi out on the ice? So that they can use the tentacles as a tee?
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Generation Jobless: From Ivied Halls to Traveling Salesman
Weak Job Market Pushes More College Grads Into Commission Sales; They’re Hawking Knives, Insurance.
You don’t need a college degree to sell insurance for Aflac Inc., but college graduates are flocking there, desperate for income in the rough job market.
John Dodge, a 2009 graduate of Louisiana State University was gunning for a career in marketing. But when his job search came up short, he turned to the insurer. “It was more like, ‘Whaddyagot?’ because there wasn’t much out there,” Mr. Dodge says.
Where debt-laden college graduates once might have resisted commission-based sales positions, the 14% unemployment rate for 20- to 24 -year-olds means fewer grads are turning up their nose at sales jobs.
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In many cases, new commission-based hires are given no base salary or a low one. Some are not eligible for health-care benefits.
Brad Souder, who graduated from Virginia’s James Madison University in 2009 with a degree in sports management, had a different experience. He took a position with Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance Co. but found the ups and downs of sales too stressful. “You face rejection every day,” he says.
In August he quit and began studying for the law-school entrance exam. And he has started a full-time job as a sales associate at men’s retailer Jos. A. Bank Clothiers Inc.
He makes slightly above the minimum hourly wage—plus commissions.
Article hits a little close to home. In-between my last job and my current one, I was unemployed for about a month… I probably got lucky on this one. Most opportunities out there were exactly these kind of jobs, hawking insurance.
Also, there’s a slightly darker side to these jobs that the article doesn’t explore. Most insurance and financial firms have a breakeven point for salesman. If you don’t hit that breakeven point in commissions, you’re let go.
The reason they hire so many people is partly because it’s a minimal investment, but also because they hire people straight out of college who need jobs, convince them to sign up their friends and family for insurance/financial products, then let them go if they can’t prospect beyond that… but the firm holds onto those new clients.
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Do pharmaceutical sales fall into this category? I’m intrigued by that role after watching Love and Other Drugs (btw, I love Anne Hattheway). It’s interesting that they like to hire former beauty queens and attractive folks to try to get into doctors’ pants to sway their drug RX choice
Tony Gonzalez? University of California?
I don't think so
In fact, I think it’d be illegal to make pharma sales a commission-only job. Creates a moral hazard.
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They’re only selling it, the doctors are the ones proscribing it, where’s the hazard?
Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?
I'm wrong
They can and do get commissions.
I guess my thought is that making it a commission-only job would give perverse incentives to do more than their job, which is building up the product, giving samples and coupons, etc. Remember, pharma reps don’t actually leave a doctor’s office with a contract.
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more than their job
go on…
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
Did you miss the memo?
Pharma girls are no longer the hot girl profession.
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Careful: The beverage you are about to enjoy may be very hot!
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by Rishi on Nov 9, 2011 8:47 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Yknow what. Nobody owes you anything in this world. If the people here want to be in sports management or marketing, thats great. But you dont just walk into being an agent or some such thing.
Just bc you take a job right out of college that isnt in your specific field doest mean you are going to be there for the rest of your life. Take the job, make some money, and figure out your next step in life.
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The thing is, Twist...
It’s not that simple.
One firm I interviewed at was New York Life. The branch manager really liked me and was ready to give me the job.
So I asked him, point blank… given his optimism, how long until I could actually make a living off it (so net net profitability).
He said 18 months.
This isn’t a “work there temporarily, then leave”. If you do it, you have to be committed to it for at least the medium term.
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18 months is 1.5 years. Thats a blip.
Look, I understand. It sucks. Its not perfect. Its not ideal. But it screams very first world problem to me.
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I find it would be a real challenge to take a job right out of college that both paid poorly and was almost certainly not on your career path. Yeah it screams first world problem but shit. My parents moved to the first world for a reason.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
my first job out of CAL was working for the GAP in their management development program. The job totally sucked but at least the pay sucked too.
Take a fucking reality pill. My first job out of college was as a receptionist at a huge software firm. It paid $25K a year, or about twice minimum wage. DId I want to use my excellent four-year degree to answer phones? Of course I didn’t. Did I see it as a foot in the door, and take it as a challenge to be the best damn receptionist ever? You bet I did, and within a year I was no longer a receptionist, and I worked for that company for 11.5 years and had a fantastic career there.
The problem with trophy generation is that they all want some glamorous big-paying high-responsibility job right out of the gate, and have never even sniffed what “paying your dues” means.
Seriously. I have a relative who switched jobs several times trying to “find himself.”
Now, he’s a low-level peon and he complains all the time about his friends who are doing so much better.
They stayed at the same company, worked hard, did well, got promoted, and are now executives.
Kids.
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WHY BACK IN MY DAY...
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
Hotmail was still popular!
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/still uses hotmail
//never found a reason to switch
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
Your lack of follow through is disappointing.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
They are apparently updating Hotmail and its gonna be as good as gmail. I dont know if thats the case, but gizmodo was gizzmoddoing allabout it!
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I seriously do not understand what separates one e-mail address from another.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
What I like about Gmail compared to others:
1. Threading – Keeps separate things separate.
2. Labels – Better than folders insomuch as emails can have multiple labels
3. Easy forwarding – Allows me to have multiple emails that all flow to my private account.
4. Connected functionality – With my gmail account, I can easily associate Google maps, google docs, chat, and other Google products (including presumably G+ were I to genuinely use it).
5. Chat – I mentioned this briefly above, but the chat is organized via email, so I can easily set up chats with anybody with a gmail account. It keeps me occupiied during the work day!
6. Size – GMail has a massive amount of space. So, I never have to delete anything.
7. Search – Makes it super easy to find old emails.
Hotmail is catching up on some of these things, though.
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Seriously
Why aren’t you their spokesperson? I’m convinced.
Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?
Was there anything I said that was inaccurate? Name one email service superior and I’ll switch.
We’ve run CGB on gmail for the last few years and its been very smooth. You should be happy for CGB, bc its allowed for this site which you seem to love being a regular on to run so easily and effortlessly (despite the ridiculous amount of effort that so many of the front pagers put in)
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Why would I want all that shit?
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
Why would you not?
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 10, 2011 12:11 AM PST up reply actions
This, essentially.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
Some serious responses to your snarky comment
1) For group e-mails. Imagine your Cat Club is discussing the venue for the next quarterly meeting. Do you really want a hundred e-mails as a result of everyone replying to all with one word responses or would you rather just have it as one conversation contained within a single e-mail that notifies you each time there’s an update?
Or if you have a long back and forth conversation with one person, it shows up as separate items, not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a>>>>>>>>>>>b
2) You get an e-mail from a Cal alumni who also works with you and lives in Sacramento? If you organise your e-mails, do you put this in the Cal alumni folder or the Sac folder or the co-workers folder? With labels, the same e-mail hits all three filters
The others are pretty self-explanatory.
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2) You get an e-mail from a Cal alumni
alumnus/alumna
by Yes We Cannon on Nov 10, 2011 7:48 AM PST up reply actions
1. Threading – Keeps our scheduling thread separate from all the others, so when there is a flurrying of last minute scheduling changes (like last night for exapmkle) its easy to keep the discussion in one area, easy for all to read. Keeps people from skedding posts at the wrong times.
2. Labels – Allows me to have a CGB only label, making it easy to go and find older emails to review previous discussions or continue on that discussion.
3. Easy forwarding – As you are all aware my privacy is important to me. This allows me to have 2 front emails that people can email me at and I can stay on top of all of YOUR email. That way nothing falls through the cracks.
4. Connected functionality – Well, the google docs thing is HUGE. We use google docs for a lot, as you well known CalBear81. Its great for the report card as that is very google docs heavy.
5. Chat – Information is power. Speed of information is more power. With the chat, its easy to keep in touch with people and keep the flow of infomration efficient regarding any changes or discussion.
6. Size – Never having to delete anything means I can keep all the CGB emails and review them if need be.
7. Search – Somewhat mentioned above, but the search functionality is helpful in reviewing old emails to determine appropriate coarse.
Some of these are not particularly specific to GMail, but GMail does it the most efficiently in my view. That makes it as easy as possible to help run the site.
This site would not function as wlel as it does not without GMail and other google products. Plain and simple. Period.
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aren't you worried that
someone at google is reading all your email and deciding what ads to send you as a result?
Why would I want to receive random advertisements (for girdles and timeshares in the Balkan mountains) when I could receive ads targeted speifically at me? It would make no sense to NOT have the targeted ads.
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I don’t really care if they know that I enjoy hiking and send me hiking boot ads a result…
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 10, 2011 8:44 AM PST up reply actions
Hey, Im in that generation and Im agreeing with you!!!!! DONT LUMP US ALL TOGETHER!
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I'm confused
Why are you getting mad at RaptorCapsLockOn…
And why are we not considering the fact that a commission-only job with an 18-month breakeven point in an industry you have zero interest in is significantly worse than a low paying job?
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But you’re talking in an industry unrelated! And the fact that you’re not only investing time, but also money into building profitability in an area you don’t want to work in…
And this is to say nothing of the “darker side” I pointed out: that a lot of insurance firms are essentially preying on recent college grads to get their friends and family and then fire them.
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essentially preying on recent college grads to get their friends and family and then fire them.
Eh, I don’t think it’s as sinister as that… it’s more like recent college grads are told to start using their friends and family as a starting point for sales, because it’s more comfortable to them and helps build their confidence. The problem is most of these kids don’t know how to progress beyond that, and end up getting fired when they can’t make any sales outside of that.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 8:57 AM PST up reply actions
I disagree. New York Life doesn’t do that… but a lot of the other ones definitely do
Here’s how they do it:
When you meet with anyone to pitch a product, they require one of the established salesmen to go with you. Ostensibly, it’s to have an expert there to help you out, but in practise, they become the dominant agent and try to build direct trust with whomever you’re pitching to. That way, it’s easier to retain that “book” after they fire you.
They also charge you to do anything in the office. Print company materials? Deducted from your commission run.
Finally, they set ridiculous targets within the first six months so they have an excuse to let you go. Now that you’re let go, they hold onto your friends and family’s business since they’ve already established trust.
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Wow. That sucks.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 9:03 AM PST up reply actions
And don’t get me started on Cutco. God, I can’t believe the WSJ would grant them any semblance of legitimacy by mentioning them.
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I went to a Cutco presentation once. Struck me as a scam. I expected some dude dressed up as a Nigerian prince to try to make a deal with me on the way out.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 9:08 AM PST up reply actions
I always feel sorry when my patients bug me to watch their Cutco presentation.
I give them 5-10 minutes. But usually I say “look, I’ve seen the penny and rope cutting demos. Let me just sign the form. And let’s talk instead about what you want to do and see if I know anything that might help you get there.”
Old Toothwrangler
Yep. Exactly.
They always remind me a little of my college roommate. He fell for one get-rich scheme after another and lost a ton of $$$ instead. He never did graduate from Cal.
Old Toothwrangler
I am with Twist on this. When I first got into PR I started as an intern making $10/hour… this was in the mid/late 1990s living in San Francisco… I was totally overqualified but I knew this is what I wanted to do… I just wanted to get in and prove myself, which I knew I could do. it worked out pretty well for me.
Right, I agree
But if you’re investing all that time in an industry that you don’t want to work in… then it’s just a waste of time.
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What if it’s not what you wanted to do? Like at all?
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
My thought was that if you are in a tough economic climate and you have a job opportunity, even if it isnt in your desired field, maybe it isnt the worst thing ever to take it. Just bc you work at a place for a year or so doesnt mean youll be there for the rest of your life.
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I’m not even sure what strawman-based argument we’re having right now.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
Does this mean Dan Guerrero should be hired as a CutCo salesman?
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I was about to say you should be hired as a CutCo salesman, but I think perhaps sharp objects are not for you.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 9:10 AM PST up reply actions
If it were a job with a salary, albeit a low one, sure…
But it’s a commission only job where you’re investing your own time and money.
In other words, if you do not want to work in a related industry, your time is better spent job hunting and networking
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There is a long term effect of your first job; it sets base salary and experience in your desired field. There was an estimate floating around that because recent graduates are taking these shit-sales jobs their lifetime earnings could be 500,000 less.
Cal: Bears with Books.
How did they come to that remarkable conclusion?
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They survey recent graduates and then forcast their lifetime earnings. Here’s a more indepth description from the National Bureau of Economic Research: The Career Effects Of Graduating In A Recession
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Some more basic facts
because you’re a busy man, Twist.
The researchers first analyze the long-term effect of on earnings of a typical recurring shock – an economic downturn – affecting a large group of workers. Then they use the information on employment, job mobility, and employer characteristics over a 10-year period to assess the sources of persistent effects of early labor market conditions. Finally, information about the individual’s academic program allows them to investigate whether workers predicted to be less advantaged from the outset actually suffer larger long-term losses and adjust differently to an initial shock.
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It’s, really, really easy for you (and me!) to say stuff like this dude, given that you went through these experiences in what basically amounted to a different generation. My brother has a Civil Engineering degree from Duke (graduated this June) and he currently gets paid a living stipend to test water samples in Arizona because he can’t find a job. There is no promotion waiting for him, and no subsequent prospects in his current line. He’s literally just doing it to do something.
I’ve honestly stopped giving him “work” advice and basically said “just keep trying. the only difference between you and I is that I was lucky enough to be born in 1985…” because honestly I can’t think of anything else tos ay.
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
Kids these days!
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Sigh
Yes.
I hate to see tremendously overqualified people in basically minimum wage jobs
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I’m frustrated to hear about his travails because growing up, he was far more diligent in his studies than me, far more disciplined and focused. He really just got the short end of the stick.
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
I can only speak from personal experience but my first job out of college had exactly zero impact on any of my earnings once I left it. Zero.
Same here, my first college job was my only corporate fling; I was only looking for a part-time job (I wanted to time to paint), but ended up Director of Production for a growing software firm.
Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?
How could I zing my one true love?
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My roommate is in a largely commissioned job
Selling some combination of life insurance and financial advising (I don’t really get it). But he is pretty stressed, constantly, because he’s got to hit his quotas for new clients
Deposed (and recently graduated!) #1 Indian
Ameriprize>
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I’m surprised he’s making enough flow to afford a flat in the city.
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He’s in that 6 month period that is partially salaried, so for now he’s OK.
I worry about what happens once he moves to a full commission model.
At least our rent is only $1000 a month!
Deposed (and recently graduated!) #1 Indian
Happy Halloween
6 1st round draft picks, 2 Super Bowl Champions and counting
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Happy Halloween II
6 1st round draft picks, 2 Super Bowl Champions and counting
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Happy Halloween III
6 1st round draft picks, 2 Super Bowl Champions and counting
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Try to guess which one I did and which one my gf did!
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You carved the KC pumpkin with just your left hand?!
Impressive!
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Hey
I carved mine in all of 5 minutes while watching Rivers hand us a MNF victory
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 8:25 AM PST up reply actions
NOOOOOOO
Dippin’ Dots Tries to Avoid Meltdown Files for Bankruptcy (I couldn’t stand the original headline)
The manufacturer of the quirky and colorful ice cream beads, which are flash frozen using liquid nitrogen, owes $12 million, the bulk of it to a unit of Regions Financial Corp., which moved to foreclose on the loan this week.
The 170-worker company, which calls its frozen treat “ice cream of the future,” fell into technical default four years ago at the peak of the economic crisis, when customers were no longer willing to spend the few dollars it cost for a cup.
It has about 140 Dippin’ Dots retail locations, which are mostly controlled by franchisees, and agreements with 9,952 small vendors who sell the ice cream at fairs, festivals and sports games. It isn’t sold in grocery stores because of its extreme cooling requirements.
Its sales woes came at the tail end of an expensive legal battle—one that the company ultimately lost—over whether founder Curt Jones properly filed the patents that protected its special freezing process.
RIP :(
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AHAHAHAHA
Nicole Hamilton wrote:
I’ve only had Dippin’ Dots once, a dozen years ago at a shopping mall in WI. I liked the product and would buy it again, though I concede I do remember thinking it was a bit expensive (even though I no longer remember what I paid.) Re: the point raised elsewhere about it being too cold to have any taste, that certainly wasn’t my experience of it; it was very light on the tongue and seemed to melt wonderfully in the mouth. I liked it.
Frank Jones replied:
Stay away from junk food, sweet Nicole.
(I called you sweet, because you look like a sweet person.)
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Is he looking at the picture at all?
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 8:39 AM PST up reply actions
They WERE too expensive !!! Even by ballpark standards.....
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
Sandy Barbour trollololololed
Sandy talks intercollegiate athletics for an hour…. LET THE TROLLING BEGIN!
Troll @ 26:35:
Y u so offensive? When you use the term brand I find it so offensive. The word brand to me brings Nike, not academic excellence.
It’s a very offensive term I can’t agree with.
Trollalalala@ 47:32
Wut ur salary?
Wut professor salary?
Wut Jeff Tedford salary?
Troll @ 51:18:
Chancellor Tien give money for scholorship after he get pay boost.
Y u and Tedford no give money out of your salary for scholarship?
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 8:36 AM PST reply actions
Sandy’s going to be at the Sacramento! Grid Club tonight!
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
Can you ask some Nike questions plz!
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
WHY DID YOU ALLOW OUR TEAM TO WEAR WHITE HELMETS WHEN YOU KNOW THEY ARE A SIGN OF THE APOCALYPSE!
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
You rang?
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
TWIST WINS TWIST WINS!
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
It’s been a few years since I’ve been back to the Bay Area. I’ll be out for a week over Christmas and definitely plan a nostalgic walk around campus. Last time I was there the tree sitters were still up at the stadium. My nephew, son of a Cal foresty major, had on a t-shirt with some anti-tree message but he chickened out and took it off when we got close to the stadium.
Bubble....?
Yelp Moving Towards $2 Billion IPO
Investors will soon get the chance to give Yelp Inc. a rating of their own, as the online consumer-review company launches plans for an initial public offering that could value the company between $1 billion and $2 billion, people familiar with the matter say.
With the successful public offering of deals site Groupon Inc. last week, Yelp tapped Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Citigroup Inc. to lead an initial public offering as soon as early next year, the people said.
Yelp was an early leader in online reviews and has grown its U.S. audience by about 50% in the last year and a half, according to comScore Inc.
Yelp makes money in much the same way as rival Google Inc., by selling ads to local businesses that appear near search results and also by selling premium ads to big-brand advertisers.
For example, a listing for San Francisco’s Tartine Bakery gives it four stars, based on 3,176 reviews. The page also includes an ad from Tartine competitor House of Bagels, shown right underneath details about Tartine’s hours.
But compared with some other popular ad-based Internet services, Yelp has been slow to capitalize on its popularity with users, in part because its business model requires a larger sales force. Facebook Inc., in contrast, was also founded in 2004, but in the first half of this year had revenue of $1.6 billion, mostly from ads, according to people familiar with the matter.
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I say run away.
i never read yelp reviews, i never rate anything on yelp, if something comes up in a search engine with yelp as the basicially only information, I know they are luddites and react accordingly.
Go Bears Go
Their mobile app is actually very helpful. You can filter restaurants by type, by distance, and open now. Perfect for “I’m here and want food right now. What’s good?”
I take their reviews with a handful of salt, though.
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Some of the reviews are ridiculously hopeless and bad. That being said, you can get a general idea of how something might be, but they’re not reliable at all.
I hat yelp with the fury of a thousand thousand burning suns that will simultaneously go nova and destroy all existence as we know it.
That is all.
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Review of Dr. Kodiak’s Dental Services
1 out of 5 stars
I WOULD RATE THIS 0 STARS IF I COULD!!! I went for a routine teeth cleaning and it was raining and cold outside! Who wants to go to the dentist in the cold?! I still gave him a chance and then he told me I had a cavity and to stop eating lollipops for breakfast! WHAT A TERRIBLE DENTIST"
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SEND THEM ALL TO THE FUCKING SUN
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Now, it is time to dance!"
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by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 9:36 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Yelp 2 pink sheets pl0x
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
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by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
Yelpers piss me off
I don’t need your 3 or 4 paragraphs of intro about how you and your boyfriend got in a fight so you were in too bad of a mood to enjoy your sushi.
Also I hold Yelp responsible for ruining my Ike’s experience by forcing me to wait over 30 min for a sandwich.
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 9:28 AM PST up reply actions
Warning: The following is a real review from Yelp
Of Walgreens… a store that, well, how can anyone hate it? It’s a simple, quick drug store that sells some things, doesn’t sell others, has a couple “grocery” items, is a little more expensive, but also more convenient
Anyway, here’s a review:
2 out of 5 stars
they do not carry martha stewart living at this location either but carry all sorts of random/unique lifestyle specific mags. seriously, who is your periodicals buyer?! i was ready to just pick up a fashion mag but the pitiful ones left on the shelf were not in the best shape. i do not like sloppy-magazine-seconds.
we need to open a Boots or Target in downtown SF.
at least this one is better stocked than the one down Mission. and surprisingly not as busy/hectic.
no martha = no sale.
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oh this could be fun. LameYelp or something.
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I recall there’s a website with a bunch of dumb Yelp reviews, but can’t find it right now.
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EHEHEHEHEHEHE
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headshot
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
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by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 9:03 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I actually like the games at At+t
but one of the things I really miss about Memorial is the walk through campus before/after games.
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It's a fun walk
But it feels so different walking through campus when class is in session
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you didn’t feel …. old?
Last time I was on campus around school hours I was basically thinking “what are all these 12 year olds doing here?”
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That’s what JoePa said!
Too soon?
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Yeah, I was already regretting it as I wrote it, which is never a good sign.
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Only if it’s offensive to folks or against the CGB guidelines. Otherwise, I’m OK with people knowing I have terrible taste in humor.
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I’m spoiled by this concept of having an actual seat.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
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True, that part is nice, oh and the good food doesn’t hurt either.
Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?
And clean bathrooms…and drinking fountains…
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And the overhang for rain!
And the proximity to Caltrain!
And the giant parking lot for tailgates!
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And the raucous crowds!
And the crazy student section!
And the awesome Mic Men!
And the sweet victory cannon!
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
I’m just playin’….I’m having a blast at the SF games. Going to Pedro’s is basically a reunion party every week. I just wish we sold out our home games….
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
It’s everyone else’s fault but our own!
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve been to every home game and worked hard to convince my peers to join!
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Me too…even my dedicated friends are starting to drop off. And they live in SF! I’m crossing my fingers that next year will be bananas at the new stadium
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
Same!
My coworkers: “I really want to go to local football games, but 9er tickets are too expensive!”
Me: “Come to Cal games!”
Coworkers: “So when does Sabercat season start?”
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 10:07 AM PST up reply actions
I finally managed to get friends to the OSU game next weekend (on the GRPN, sadface)
This will be, for many, their first Cal game of the season.
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It’ll be mine. I got the free tickets with Cal merch offer.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
btw, has it been easy to sneak into the student section?
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This season or in general?
There’s a separation between young alumni and students, so you can’t move laterally like normal.
The only way to get in is to wait for the people checking tickets/wristbands to turn away and just bolt past him. I did that for the Utah game; I think it was near impossible to do it for the U$C game.
OSU shouldn’t be too tough.
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This season. I may have to commandeer some wristbands, I guess.
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That’s gonna be tough.
If you can’t, do what I did for Utah and just walk past the guard when he’s turned around. It shouldn’t be too difficult.
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The bleachers right in front of the end zone. It’ll be obvious once you step out there.
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i know you’re being at least partly facetious, but there is a reason organizations have marketing departments.
True, but I still believe Cal’s marketing department’s job is hundred times tougher than say Oregon’s or USC’s. Maybe not as tough as Stanfurd’s though…
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
There’s a major college football team. Playing in a beautiful stadium in downtown San Francisco. Right next to public transportation. With popular bars and restaurants nearby.
Sounds like it should have been a lot easier.
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To be fair, we’re less of a football team and more of a footbLOL team.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
I mean, I saw TV ads, radio ads, billboards on buses all across the city….I’d say the one area they fucked up was pricing, but is that strictly marketing?
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
Then that’s one area they fucked up!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
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Price: Meh
Product: Doom
Placement: Not bad
Promotion: fucking terrible
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They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
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by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
I’m so confused by this. What is proper promotion? I got tons of emails, facebook updates, saw it in the papers, saw it on TV, saw it on Twitter…what did they not do?
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
So what should have been done differently?
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
we’ve discussed in the past.
not charging $140 per seat to sit in the bleachers would be a starting point.
Pricing is huge
But I’m curious… on the effective marketing part, what else?
Just for my knowledge
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Alright, I guess we can agree to disagree.
You blame the marketing department and I blame the fanbase
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
I prefer my black and white world
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
I don’t know why you’re blaming a fanbase that has supported the team to the tune of 60K fans per game for the last 6 years.
I’ll ask you again, do you want to pay $140 for bleacher seat?
I’m not basing my assessment on this year alone. I’ve had season tickets since I started school (2004) and I’ve been massively disappointed with our fanbase since then. AND WE WON 10 GAMES IN 04 AND 06! I just feel peeps aren’t that into it. 60K is nice, but didn’t our stadium hold like 76k? A program like ours should sell out EVERY GAME, EVERY YEAR. It’s not like we have to fill a 110k stadium.
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
i see. you really don’t have a historical perspective.
do you think a program like USC should sell out every game every year? Because they don’t come close to that.
They have almost double the seats to fill. Oregon has a ridiculous home sell out record still going.
But I agree that I have no historical perspective.
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
First, SC doesn’t have even close to double the seats. about 30% more. Yet they are in a metro area with double the population, second largest in the United States, as one of the most storied programs in the history of college football and with zero pro teams against whom they must compete.
The ducks are the only game in town.
They have almost double the seats to fill.
LA Memorial Coliseum capacity: 93,607
California Memorial Stadium capacity until 2011: 71,799
How is that almost double?
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
:) I knew it was in the 90s. I mean, even Ohio State and Michigan are like ~102K and ~110K respectively, and even that’s not close to double.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
From our solid middle class perspective...
…it’s both the prices and how they were presented. The sheet we received with the ticket prices looks like insane timeshare presentation materials. There should be ~3 price levels and then an ultra-premium section, not this shit. So while we knew that we couldn’t afford 50yd line seats, it wasn’t entirely clear what we could afford. We buy with friends, too, so there was a lot of “what is your donation level” and “well, are you comfortable with this” and “fuuuuck why are they doing this to us we just want to buy a ticket and see some football.”
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To me, it sounds like the greatest problems are with price and product. The product, which is meh, does not justify the price, which for many seats, was AOOOOGAH.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
At this point they’d prolly admit that they fucked up on the pricing. They ultimately had to sell tickets to tourists / visiting douches for much less than they sold them to the season ticket holder / donation level X dudes sitting right next to them and that creates resentment. There should have been consistency here to prevent this – research to set the price then cajones to stick to that research – but it was all as scattershot as that seat diagram. We have to concede that the stadium scramble and extra costs for each game day in the middle of a $ pinch prolly put them in a really bad position; still, this could have been done without the season ticket holders feeling like they’ve been duped by having lower prices and fewer donation barriers to entry.
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It sounds like the kind of bad job that comes with having too few people doing a huge job in a very short amount of time under tremendous budget pressures.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
Blaming customers for not purchasing your product doesn’t generally get you far in most worlds, in my experience.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions
then why did you put a bag of dogshit on my porch when i wouldn’t buy your “Indians of UCLA” calendar?
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by boomtho on Nov 9, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It was a flaming bag of dogshit. Get your facts right. And that was completely unrelated.
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by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
But I thought was just established that promotion and price are separate issues. It seems like you’re unhappy with the price. What, exactly, makes you think the promotion was subpar?
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions
Know your 4 P’s of Marketing!
Price, Product, Placement and Promotion
What AndBears said. People seem to be saying that promotion was poor, but then you give an example that the price was too high. It confuses me.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
If we had dancing batman in between downs every game would be sold out
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Now, it is time to dance!"
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by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 10:40 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
IVE GOT THE BUG
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Totally disagree here, there was promotion all over the place for months.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
It clearly wasn’t effective though. Bus ads promoting the “experience” to SF locals seemed like a hail mary for same day ticket sales to us. It would have been better to embrace the fanbase through targeted materials and DEALS.
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I think you’re right. Thanks for clarifying that. I also think you’re right on with the “pricing sheet” nonsense. Cal football should have been less Emirates to London and more Southwest to Burbank.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
this
It would have been better to embrace the fanbase through targeted materials and DEALS.
Not absolute but this could have been helpful in moving tickets:
Price: At least give some sort of reacharound so you aren’t trying to slang tickets for hella cheap a week before the game. That pisses off everyone that paid full price. Should have started off with better deals/promos/prices beforehand
Product: you are trying to sell me doom. I will buy your doom but at least make it worth my while. Also make it sexy.
Placement: at&t? ok fine
Promotion: Sell and promote to people that have been buying tickets and want to buy tickets, not people who could give 2 shits about Cal football
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Now, it is time to dance!"
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by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
I think ads pitching the “Experience” could have been great for promoting season tickets ahead of time…
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I’m pretty sure I saw this all sumemr.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
Oh cool
I’m in downtown SF and barely saw them that fully mentioned Cal football, AT&T park, etc all together.
Also, there are a ton of football fans in my office. Very few of them had any clue that Cal would be playing at AT&T park until I mentioned it… an idea they found intruiging.
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My argument was that their job is tough because we don’t have good fans
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
But grab new ones! Think how to expand the fan base beyond alumni.
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Who cheers for colleges they didn’t go to?
Well I guess KC people get hyped on KU basketball, but that’s only because KC doesn’t have an NBA team
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
My friend and I have had season tickets for many years. He went to North Carolina.
Several of our values posters on here did not go to Cal.
I’m not much of a values poster here. I post Democratic.
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That’s awesome…seriously, I don’t know anyone personally who is a fan who did not attend.
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
Me! Me! I’m a legacy though, both parents and 3 cousins attended.
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by Fire Starkey on Nov 9, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
I know plenty of people who didn’t go to USC that cheer for them. Even when the Raiders were in town!
Yes, there’s competition from other institutions (NFL) but a lower cost ticket to somebody who wants to enjoy a football gameday experience is marketable as well.
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by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
I think I’ve asked you before (I get you fiat peeps confused), but other than lowering costs, what else should have been done that wasn’t. Don’t need a huge effort from you, just some major bullet points.
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
i think we’ve discussed before, but that “other than lowering costs” thing is a huge one.
Because of mandatory seat donations they were in effect charging $140 a seat per game for people to sit on bleacher seats in sections A-C.
Also, strictly from a gameday experience
I still don’t agree with putting the most rabid fans (students and young alumni) in such terrible seats where it would have little effect on the game.
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really? i haven’t tried buying tix for Cal or NFL, but Cal tix are more expensive than NFL ones? That seems… ridiculously unaware of the competitive market.
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by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
At the very least, they’re not cheap enough relative to Niners tickets
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Niners fans are the worst…I went to a Rams game a few years ago and I’ve never seen a quieter stadium in my life!
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
Hmmm. That’s… unfortunate.
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by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah! They should have offered tickets on popular discount sites often used by the younger, urban demographic.
Why didn’t they do that?!?
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
I thnk by then it was too little too late :(
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averaging 60K fans a game for the last 6 years would argue against that.
Not being able to fill a 45K seat stadium speaks volumes
I am really surprised we couldnt fill 45K
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It was all about the pricing and the crummy home schedule. A huge number of the seats required a “donation” of between $400 and $800 per seat, in addition to the season ticket price. With only five home games, people were being asked to pay between $160-$240 per seat for each game. That is really, really expensive. And one of those five games, Presbyterian, was a game no one really had any interest in at all. Of the remaining four games, only USC is a team most people are very interested in seeing. People just weren’t going to buy season tickets at those prices to see a Cal team which had been disappointing in 2010, play four uninteresting teams.
And once the season tickets didn’t sell well, it was DOOM. After only the Presbyterian game was played at home, Cal went on the three-game losing streak, and that doomed sales of single game tickets for every game except USC.
The problem all stems from the excessively high season ticket prices for what was not an exciting home schedule to begin with.
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Yes. Cal should have found a way to make that game part of its season ticket package, or at least offer a big discount to season ticket holders.
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Im not sure making it a part of the season ticketpackage would have been the way to go. I think a lot of people would not have been happy to be forced to pay for that ticket.
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but giving people the option to buy it as part of such and then say, discounting the Presb ticket in exchange would have been the way to go.
Thats an idea. I wonder what the Marketing Depts thought process was
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Probably “We don’t have time for this.”
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
It all came together so late that we grant them some slack. We are prepared to howl like a coyote next season tho if it is similarly inane.
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AGreed.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
I feel the same way. I am not mad at Cal for screwing this up. I am disappointed at the lost opportunity and lost revenue, and the poor atmosphere at the games which has resulted. But I will be upset if they don’t learn some big lessons from this debacle.
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
It was(is)n’t THAT bad. cmon people.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
Sure, I’ll take that. Instead of making the best of a bad situation, we made the meh of a bad situation.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
How bad is that bad?
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SJSU attendance levels…losing all our home games…getting called out in the media etc etc.
It’s mostly an internal problem that should largely be “fixed” by next year. Nothing about this year is particularly lasting…
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
zactly.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
Out of curiosity, how are the ushers about allowing movement from one section to another?
IE: If I pick up a cheapo ticket for my friend to go with the two relatively nice tickets I already have, are we all going to be able to sit together in the vast expanse of empty seats that is AT&T?
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Not the guy in my section (123) he refuses to let anyone wander through. Dead serious too.
Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?
Really?
No one cares in young alumni.
What if you move laterally?
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Lateral movement is not possible in large parts of AT&T unless you scoot along entire rows of people.
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The Play could never have happened at AT&T.
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Somebody should have told me that before I attacked that trombone player last week
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I got in trouble when I tried to climb down to my seats. AT+T is so stupid in that there are lots of bars that bar the 1% seats from the 99% sections. However, what is 1% for baseball is SHIT-TAY for football. So, I just walk down and step over the bar. But Ive had ushers try to stop me. LAME
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Putting the wrap on a successful field hockey season
Tough loss to Richmond in NCAA play-in game ends Cal’s season, but team should still be proud of an unexpected run
“It was disappointing to finish with not our best game of the year” said head coach Shellie Onstead. "They came out and executed well from the start. We didn’t have our usual punch. I thought we played a little timid. We got back on track, but couldn’t quite get it done.
The Bears managed nine shots, with Richmond’s Anna Zarkoski scrambling for five saves, but Richmond’s strong defense kept the Bears from having a good look at the goal.
“Richmond was willing to expend a lot of energy, with pressure,” Onstead said. “The stats are pretty even. They just did a better job executing than we did in terms of chances on goal.”
This was the first time this season the potent Bear offense had been shutout. Cal ranks ninth in the NCAA in goals per game, averaging 3.63.
The Spiders (16-6) earned an automatic spot in the 16 team NCAA tournament witht he victory.
The Bears, who were No. 16 in the polls last week, rose to No. 11 in the Kookaburra NFHCA final poll of the year, matching the highest-ever ranking for the program in the poll.
The game marked the end to the season for the Bears who did not earn an at-large bid for the 16-team NCAA Tournament. Cal ends the season with a mark of 16-4. The Bears’ 16 wins are the second most in the history of the program. The Bears have twice won 17 games, going 17-5 in both 2004 and 2006.
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New student section chant for men's bball games this season
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyYGnw0f1Dk&fb_source=message
*Insert something witty here*. Oh, and Stanfurd Sucks.
by FrankCohen on Nov 9, 2011 9:30 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
The Bear Will Never Quit. The Bear Will Never Die.
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When someone tells you to yell something at the game, yell it!
"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"
it is similar to the Utah State one where it is:
We
We Believe
We Believe that
We Believe that
We Believe that we
We Believe that we will win.
repeat.
Needs to be faster!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44YUnOoye58
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
and harder.
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
Nice
Be loud and proud at Haas.
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Going to the game this Sat!
Looks like I’ll be able to make the Cal-OSU game. So, you can all blam me for the heart-break that is sure to follow.
A couple of questions:
1) The consensus on the best way to get there with minimal walking is to Bart to Embarcadero, then limp over to the park?
2) Are there plans for a tailgate?
Old Toothwrangler
YAY GO BEARS
1) Probably, though Montgomery and walking down Third Street is just as easy.
2) CalBandGreat should be on this! Otherwise, ya know, Momo’s. If you do show up to the tailgate, are you allowd to shotgun beers?
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I can drink beer(s). I’m supposed to be doing some actual work at the game, so I probably need to avoid shotgunning.
Old Toothwrangler
setting up a free clinic in the stadium?
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
Cal Athletics invited some of the CGB writers to do a pre-game tour, then participate in a Blog in the Fog event during the game.
Old Toothwrangler
i don’t believe you
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
I wrote a FanPost that one time…can I join?
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions
He did mention this, and I thought you and others who were going were perfect since you’ve been doing a lot of work and this is a nice reward.
I just don’t understand the name.
Cal: Bears with Books.
Gotta love Cal Marketing.
I spoke to the lady in charge this am. I did ask her if they could work out some extra perks for season ticket holders as a reward for their loyalty. She’s going to see if they can come up with something.
Old Toothwrangler
seriously, throw out some extra bear backer points to reward ATT loyalty.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
I suggested that to her. Also, free tickets to Cal basketball.
If you have any other ideas, let me know. I’ll have a chance to talk with her and other Cal ATO representatives on Saturday.
Old Toothwrangler
basketball is boring, but if you can get them to give season ticket holders free golf lessons I’m on board.
but bear backer points is a no brainer. no cost associated with it and it goes a long way to acknowledging to the most loyal fans that they screwed up this year.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
basketball is boring
BOO THIS MAN!
Have you seen the golf practice area at Metro? It’s pretty nice
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
yup, Metro is my primary course/driving range.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
Reminds me of golf in Kansas. Not a lot of elevation change or trees, usually windy, course can dry up and play hard and fast…I actually love playing out there.
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
golf pics
yup, I love some links golf. I’m hoping to play here with the in-laws during T-giving weekend.
http://www.rusticcanyongolfcourse.com/
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
Best links courses I've played
Prairie Dunes
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Whistling Straights
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
whistling straits is on my bucket list with bandon.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
Whistling Straights/Black Wolf Run and Bandon Dunes/Pacific Dunes are the two best golf experiences in my life.
Pacific Dunes is my favorite course in the world.
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
By writers you mean commenters, right? I’ll see you there!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
By writers, you mean CBKWit, right? He’ll see you there!
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One thing’s for sure: by writers, they don’t mean me.
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<3
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
You’re a writer in my knee
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I thought I was an editor you prefer to ignore.
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
Well, you called me a ding dong that one time
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also any lulz for Cal Athletics waiting to do this until THE LAST ATT GAME OF THE YEAR?
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
It’s better that way. There won’t be any awkwardness when they don’t want to invite us back after Kodiak shows up shirtless!
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Def, def. This will be like a one night stand with Cal Athletics.
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that's going to be quite a walk of shame
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Nov 9, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
I thought he was gonna show up in pajamas. That’s the blogger uniform, right?
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
so, gonna make your move to get access to the Cal Golf Team and free lessons from the coaches?
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
Yep. I’ll trade ’em free orthodontic mouthguards for the golfers. You never know when someone might go all Bob Barker on you!
Old Toothwrangler
or when you’ll line up next to them on the range. you never know where your shot will go.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
I saw them practicing at Oakland Metro when I went a few weeks ago.
I almost wanted to hide my Cal club covers out of embarrassment…especially after I sliced on that went almost 90 degrees to the right.
Old Toothwrangler
lots of people there rock cal stuff, although you might be the most obvious I’ve seen.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
I have an Oski cover for my driver! Also a Cal script ball marker
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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 9, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
I have a Cal putter cover and rock an Old Course ball marker. I still have yet to bring out the towel and bag tag.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
Blog in the Fog?
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
Ya, we were gonna tell you, but, well,y know.
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No, I don’t know!
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Even since the incident, we’ve decided you aren’t the best to represent CGB. And apparently, that goat is retaining CalBear81. So, be careful!
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I thought Rishi was the one who had the incident with a goat.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
You mean feeding a baby goat while taking a break from home building?
That doesn’t sound like an incident!
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I posted the video! That goat didn’t seem to like you very much.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
No, he had the incident with the rooster.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
That was no accident. Rishi loved it.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 10, 2011 12:11 AM PST up reply actions
If only I had the slightest idea what you are talking about. On second thought . . . it’s probably better this way.
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He’s saying that you represent Jerry Rice in legal action against me.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
To atoms this, I am just making it seem like we’re excluding atoms from official CGB business, bc he did something awkward.
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Yeah, come on out to our tailgate. NE corner of Parking Lot A. I can email you my phone number to help you find us if when you’re walking over.
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by CalBandGreat on Nov 9, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
minimal walking = bart to montgomery. montgomery muni to ball park.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
yup, take the N toward Caltrain or the T toward Sunnydale. drops you in front.
Deposed (and recently graduated!) #1 Indian
Agreed, except making the transfer at Embarcadero might save you a couple minutes. (This presumes you are BARTing from the East Bay)
Yes. BARTing up from Union City.
So, BART to Embarcadero, then N towards Caltrain or T towards Sunnydale → AT&T?
Old Toothwrangler
yup.
for more detailed instructions, take the big escalator up, walk to the middle of the top platform to get through the Muni gates, then walk down to the Muni platform.
stand on the side with the ballpark sign. just remember that Muni is $2/person and they don’t give change.
The At&T stop is King/3rd, though that should be fairly obvious
Deposed (and recently graduated!) #1 Indian
We’ve been driving Ragscub, and paying for parking. It’s not been so bad.
I’d tailgate with you!
Cal: Bears with Books.
If you want a ride, I have room for two and a parking pass.
Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?
I'm also going
Except I’m flying in just in time. I’m planning on landing at Oakland, driving across the San Mateo Bridge, and hopping on Caltrain.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Emphatic NO.
My beautiful wife has knee problems and so must minimize walking. We found that the best way to get there with minimal walking is:
(1) BART to Embarcadero Station
(2) Take Muni N, T, or S (Shuttle) from Embarcadero to AT&T Park. Muni will drop you with a hundred yards or so of the Willie Mays Gate on King near Third Street.
I’ve used this basic set-up for all games at AT&T this year. Without exception, there has been a Muni LRV waiting at the Embarcadero platform after we’ve passed through the BART fare gates and then the Muni fare gates.
If you have a Clipper card, it’s very convenient, indeed.
The worst part about it is the return trip after the game. Muni is typically packed and there is a wait for trains at the AT&T platform, BART is likewise packed and the trains don’t run often enough.
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"Winning is not everything. It is far better to play the game squarely and lose than to win at the sacrifice of an ideal."
-- Andrew Latham Smith
as in EWWWWWWW, MBA?
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Portfolio Management will explore the broad range of portfolio management in practice. Presentations will be given by seasoned managers of mutual funds, exchange traded funds, bond funds, emerging markets funds, real estate investment trusts, hedge funds, venture capital funds, leveraged buy-out funds, pension funds and others. Each presentation will be preceded by one lecture that will familiarize students with the strategies, financial instruments, and market characteristics relevant to each fund type. Time will be allocated in each presentation for questions and discussion.
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I thought you wanted out of finance? Why would you go to a finance class?
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
It meant not missing work.
Plus, I’m not necessary on “Get out of anything finance”, just maybe out of wealth management. VC would be great.
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don’t you usually need a entrepreneurship background to get into VC, usually?
Deposed (and recently graduated!) #1 Indian
There’s no one correct path. I’ve seen people make the jump from finance to VC before.
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good to know
i know the finance/PE path is easier because PE is more modeling heavy. I always assumed VC (esp early stage) was not necessarily finance-centric because the pure finance, modeling etc. was not crucial — but rather a feel about product/market potential
Deposed (and recently graduated!) #1 Indian
Yeah
Theoretically, the best use of time from a salary perspective would be to get an MBA and jump into portfolio management.
But I just don’t know I want to do this…
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Authorities have determined that a Marine who was found dead in his Camp Pendleton barracks was beaten to death by another Marine.
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You want me on that wall…you need me on that wall!
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Yeah
In retrospect, I regret adding to it.
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Going back to Ohio....
Having grown up in Berkeley my experience is likely different than most of your’s (<—-is that properly punctuated?). My Dad still lives there so we try to get down for a game each year. When I went to college (UCDavis) I’d come home and nothing about Berkeley had changed because it’s an urban setting that was pretty well built-out long ago. Chrissy Hind missed her countryside; mine is owned by the University (by FAR most of UCBerkeley acres are in Oakland up Strawberry Canyon way) and is still intact.
I like to walk the campus, see the stadium, run around Strawberry Canyon and drink a beer at Triple Rock. I love coming home….LOVE. IT. And it’s the campus and it’s atmosphere I love the most.
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
your’s (<—-is that properly punctuated?)
No.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
Why aren't we talking about this!?
College basketball player goes on naked rampage (SF GATE)
A California basketball player has gone on a naked rampage after being cut from a Fresno college team.
The Fresno Bee ( http://bit.ly/v1uk1V) says 21-year-old Leonard Tyrell Young was nude Monday night when he ran through a parking lot near the Fresno Pacific University campus, assaulted two women, tried to steal a police car and struck an officer and police dog.
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awesome. if you’re going down, might as well go down hard.
plus, fresno pacific? it’s not even fresno state! that’s gotta suck.
if you’re going down, might as well go down hard.
Can I borrow this line for Saturday night?
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This reminded me. A Long time ago, I made a DBD when I couldn’t sleep, but then never had the opportunity to use it. I just found it again today, so let me know if you want me to pull that one out of my (ficticious) back pocket.
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THE BACK POCKET IS A LIE?!?!
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What?! I’ve devoted my whole life to hunting down that rascally rabbit. Now what do I do?!!?!
Old Toothwrangler
Find a wascally wabbit and hunt him down next.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
It’s like Twist and 33$$ had a love child together
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
How about
1.05.12 ANYBODY KNOW A GOOD PATERNITY LAWYER?
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
…. for a Love Assassin episode.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
Is the format all screwed up for anybody else? With the ridght sidebar at the bottom of the page?
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I think it's due to the bad picard ascii art facepalm?
by OaktownAggie on Nov 9, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
Well, it’s good. But the interpretation of the special characters in it is making that comment thread wonky. I’m guessing it’s making the whole thing wonky.
by OaktownAggie on Nov 9, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
cool story bro
Voters in WA approve plan to privatize liquor sales and dismantle controls that have been in place since Prohibition
Yippie! This means that starting next summer I can buy hard liquor from Safeway, Costco (who put the money in this initiative) and other stores instead of waiting for and spending outrageous money on state owned stores!
Of course this law has a provision that only stores greater than 10k sq ft can sell liquor but that’s added because of all the stupid “think of the kids” people being afraid that booze would be sold at gas stations. Hopefully next year they can fix that part. But one step at a time.
In other words, Go Bears!
That's it...
….I’m driving to the Couv (Vancouver, WA….right across the river) for my next bottle of Maker’s.
YeeHaw!
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
Why would you go from OR to WA for booze? Isn’t it cheaper in OR and plus you don’t have to pay sales tax?
In other words, Go Bears!
Oregon still has state-run liquor stores (monopoly much?)
Which is what Washington just voted to do away with. Speculation is CostCo will now sponsor same initiative here and I WON’T have to visit all those terrible places above….
Vantucky…I like that…..
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
I have a friend who went to Haas who lives in the Pearl now. He’s an Oregon native and grew up in Corvallis. He tells us all the funny/offensive Portland humor. I’m assuming you’ve heard the not-politically-correct name for Lake Oswego and for the area near SW Stark/Burnside Triangle.
I've not heard them, but I want to !!!!
Bring it! Not sure who I’ll tell them to (not my wife and kids….) but just KNOWING them will make me feel special.
I’ve had a few late night drinks at that triangle….something tells me I’m going to regret telling you that…..
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
Lake Oswego is known as “Lake No _ _ _ _ _” (as in, the absence of people of African heritage). That area is basically like Orinda or maybe Woodside or Hillsborough.
And the derogatory name for the Burnside Triangle (SW Stark area where many of the pride events are located) is “Vaseline Alley”.
Like I said, not very politically-correct.
I thought the trick was to live in WA and shop in OR?
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
But for gods sake — don’t try to pump it yourself!
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
Hey, when it's 12 degrees out....
…..that law actually is helpful.
When in Washington I pull to the pump and wait several minutes swearing under my breath before I realize I can pump the gas myself.
MAN do I sound like an old fart……
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
Vintage?
This one’s for Rishi and others with similar views on fantasy football.
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by Ohio Bear on Nov 9, 2011 10:51 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Speaking of Fantasy Football
I finally made changes to my lineup before Tuesday and I got good numbers out of the QB from NIU…. only for the bye week team to kill me with some unknown player. WTF
In other words, Go Bears!
What’s wrong with Dungeons and Dragons?
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Is our long national nightmare over?
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To what is this referring?
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Were free of AndBears Ascii non-penis of doom!
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I really thought it’d be fine. I kinda supposed that the comments were in ‘protected’ areas; oh well. You can ban me. I should probably work anyways.
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Ban you? What is this? RaptorApocalypseNation?
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by CalBandGreat on Nov 9, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
He’s a fudrie. Never.
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by CalBandGreat on Nov 9, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions
Which means I won't be listening
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zooworx dropped kaiser this year...
…we get our bennies thru wife but that’s gotta suck for those people. Hey, go find other doctors and shit for you and your family. Oh, and no more opt-out reimbursement: take our lame bennies or suck it. We are “grandfathered” in for this money but geex, next year that will prolly disappear. Meanwhile the company is insanely profitable: hundreds of mazillions, no joke. wtf america
WE ARE ZOONEWS
What’s this in response to?
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
huh?
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
Translation
His workplace, much like many others, has undergone changes in healthcare providers.
Kaiser has been dropped as a new option. People who have been using Kaiser can keep it for one more year.
Healthcare costs will go up.
Company is still very profitable.
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Is your workplace doing the emphasis on “preventative care”, which involves taking online quizzes?
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How to actually lower healthcare costs
Hire a nutritionist to come to the office and schedule a one-on-one with every employee.
Make a deal with 24 Hour or any other local gym for heavily discounted gym membership. Also, personal training sessions.
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You’d be surprised how little that motivates/helps most people.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
I think a nutritionist could be very helpful. A lot of people try to eat healthy, but either sufficiently lack knowledge (Subway says it’s healthy, so it must be! Gronola looks natural, must be healthy!) or an actual plan.
Will it motivate everyone? No.
Will it result in net net less money spent on taking care of people? I think so.
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But would Cigna/whatever reduce their costs in response to this? Prolly not, cuz they have a help line that you can call when you feel fatty and the foreigner on the other end will tell you buck up and get yourself together.
WE ARE ZOONEWS
Federal law mandates that the cost of healthcare be a certain minimum percentage of rates. If an insurer makes excess profit on that, they are mandated to return the money to get them to that amount.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
…starting in 2014, right?
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
No. While this was part of the new federal mandates, that went into effect much sooner. I believe that provision is already active.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Ah, yes, you’re right!
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Woooooo Affordable Care Act!
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
It is a step in the right direction. However, administrative costs in health insurance companies have gone up roughly at same rate as inflation, and yet medical costs (which range between 70-85% of average premium) have been increasing in the double digit percents. Curbing profits of insurers and forcing administrative improvements are fine, but they are not anywhere near enough.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I agree with all that. I think we’ve already had this debate here, but rankly, I’d prefer a single-payer approach, because I don’t see what the value-add is for health insurance for the most part. They’re pretty much just a middleman at this point.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Without any malicious intent (i.e. I’m not attacking you), I think your failure to see what the value-add has more to do with a lack of understanding of what value a middle man in this situation can provide.
Perhaps next CGB HH I make it out to we can discuss some more, but I shouldn’t continue this discussion here.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Well, I think there could be some value add if we were using health insurance as you know, insurance… to offset the risk of a catastrophic occurrence. But that’s not what the health insurance system has morphed into anymore. Nowadays, every single little interaction with the health care system (and we ALL need health care of some sort on a regular basis) is transacted through the insurance system. Anyway, I’d be happy to discuss further at HH. When are we going to have the next one? (NOT this Friday, please).
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
LOL this Friday is likely the only one I could go to until 2012.
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by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
I’m going down to SoCal tonight to visit my parents and am coming back on Saturday in time for the Cal game.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
Remind me never to go to a CGB HH if the entire time people are going to be discusing the minutae of this act
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The HHs I’ve been to have been oddly representative of a DBD. There was some talk of politics, fashion, cricket…
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by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
Oddly fascinating, really. I forgot to mention Cal sports, but I typically “z” through those conversations and follow onto the convo regarding scotch.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
How does Z through a conversation in real life?
RaptorAp: “I think that this section of the act is important”
Me: “Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Z! Z! Z!!!!!!!!!”
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We all do this in real life in large groups with multiple conversations. Except saying “Z” really loud, we tend to migrate towards the conversation that piques our interest more.
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by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
That really limits my options.
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You need to learn how to space out better.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
No, I say Z really loudly.
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Value-add for health insurance: I didn’t have to pay about $65,000 in hospital fees for the births of my children.
In every other way, it simply adds complexity and irritation to interactions with doctors. Between insurance coverage rules and the lack of open and standardized pricing from doctors, I have no idea what I’m going to be paying for anything out of the ordinary. It’s a complete farce.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
a help line that you can call when you feel fatty and the foreigner on the other end will tell you buck up and get yourself together.
Rishi runs a hotline???
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 12:37 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
The people who are likely to utilize and reap benefits from this program are the ones least likely to be hit with the chronic care needs that drive the cost of healthcare even without such a program.
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by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
You work more closely with the industry than I do, so maybe you’re right.
From where I sit, though, I see people who are on “weight loss plans” (and need it) and pouring themselves bowls of Special K every morning, thinking they’re doing themselves a service.
Also, something simple like providing some healthy food in the breakroom (so no chips) incentivizes people to eat healthier since it’s free! I dunno, stop feeding us donuts and bagels and muffins at our meetings. Give more fresh fruit or something.
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I agree these are useful things, and I for one would LOVE to have access to a free nutritionist. But by and large, most people don’t care about getting something for free if the apparent benefit is in the long term, not short term.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
Our company paid us medical reimbursement money (flex spending ,basically) for answering a 10 question online quiz… if that use that money towards incentivizing people to talk to the nutritionist?
And, come on, if there’s free food in the break room, people will eat it.
Didn’t have time to eat breakfast in the morning? Either you get free oatmeal or you can go downstairs and pay $5 for a bagel with cream cheese. Surprisingly, there are people who will choose the former option.
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I walked around my floor offering free strawberries. 1/30 takers. 30 mins later, did the same thing with donuts. 6/7 takers.
I would take free oatmeal as well.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
I would too.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Stick people in a meeting where healthy food is the only option and people will eat it.
I did that a couple times at my old job. Instead of ordering donuts and bagels, I ordered oatmeal with fruit. A few grumbles, sure, but all of it was consumed.
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That’s because you ate it all, didn’t you, fatty.
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by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t like oatmeal, which is probably only one of several reasons that it’s just as well we don’t work in the same office.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
I’d complain about being left out but as a vegetarian you’d laugh… I will note that we have enough vegetarians on my team that we always make sure they’re catered to for lunches in the office.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
In addition to fruit, we get free M+Ms, chips, pretzels, etc…
I can literally see people getting fatter.
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, stuff like that… I mean, don’t prohibit people from eating it, but don’t give people incentives to eat junk
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my last inhouse job we were provided with tons of free fruit every day (and this was a multithousand person company). It was very cool.
While that would be nice, we don’t require a progressive workplace. We are just sick of working in a regressive one: we bust hump and maintain our hundreds of mazillions in profits regardless of the economy but benefits are continually eroded by parent company due to “tough economic times.” It doesn’t add up. Oh yeah, people are verbally berated in front of the whole company if they ask questions like “since profits are so high, are there plans to reinstate a bonus system?” → THIS IS A TEAM, YOU ARE EITHER WITH US OR AGAINST US, WHAT AN EMBARRASSING QUESTION FOR YOU, YOU SHOULD ASK YOURSELF WHY YOU WORK HERE IF IT IS PURELY FOR MONEY THEN YOU PROBABLY AREN’T REACHING YOUR POTENTIAL, other assorted bullshit.
WE ARE ZOONEWS
Has your boss made eye contact with you yet?
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Progress!
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Dayamn! Get out of there.
Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.
I’ve heard of great opportuntiies at CutCo
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Hows your company’s health care????
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Costco kielbasa!
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
z
Eddie Murphy out as Oscars host:
LOS ANGELES — Eddie Murphy is dropping out as the host of the Oscars telecast, the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences said Wednesday, less than 24 hours after the show’s producer, Brett Ratner, stepped aside amid a storm of criticism over his use of an anti-gay slur. .
The hasty departures represented an embarrassing collapse of the Academy’s plans less than four before the ceremony, and left it scrambling to fill key roles on a show that is one of the most elaborately staged on television.
Mr. Ratner, who was named the Oscar co-producer on Aug. 4, resigned on Tuesday morning because of the furor provoked by his public use over the weekend of an anti-gay slur, and a subsequent, salacious discussion of his own sexual habits on Howard Stern’s radio program.
The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation strongly objected to the derisive remark about gays, and a flood of objections by academy members and media commentators quickly made clear that the Academy’s Feb. 26 Oscar show on ABC, if Mr. Ratner remained in charge, was going to be as much about Mr. Ratner as the movies.
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Sure
It’ll be 2 hours longer, offend a horrific number of people (main because of jew jokes he THINKS it’s okay for him to make), and be 20% less relevant than now.
Cal: Bears with Books.
Actually, given how fast I talk, itd probably be 2 hours shorter.
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HES’TH HERE! YES IT’S HIM! IT’S HIM!
WOOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOO
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
Heard him on Stern; he was bragging about how he likes to go down on the ladies and he was clearly best at it and how he makes the ladies go get tested with his doctor before he shleps with them and how nobody in Hollywood uses condoms and most of the big shots have had vasectomies but they’ll never admit it cuz then the gold diggers will stop sleeping with them and also some Lindsay Lohan tales about how jealous she got when she found him sleeping with another chix but now they are ok.
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That chop is disturbing
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"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
You need to use the radio and the internet at the same time!
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
And his calbears.com chat is in a little while (1:00 pm PT)
Man crush on Aaron Rodgers, since 2003.
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I once interviewed a guy who quit law school for a couple of years to try professional poker
Money like this must be why he tried
Earlier this year, Pius Heinz was deciding whether to play cards full-time.
Now that the 22-year-old German has won the $8.72 million prize at the World Series of Poker, he can steer his life in pretty much whatever direction he wants.
“Honestly I’m not sure what I’m going to do with the money,” Heinz said early Wednesday after winning the main event in a marathon session of Texas Hold ’Em. “Probably my family is going to get a couple gifts.”
Heinz won with an ace high, just nine hands after using the same hand to boost himself from a nearly insurmountable disadvantage against 35-year-old Martin Staszko.
Heinz, of Cologne, called an all-in bet from Staszko with an ace and a king. Staszko held a seven-10 of clubs.
The board was a five of clubs, deuce of diamonds, nine of spades, jack of hearts and four of diamonds, helping neither player but cementing Heinz’s win in the $10,000 buy-in tournament that started in July.
Staskzo won $5.43 million for second place, a nice consolation prize, but it comes without a bracelet — the prize given to WSOP event winners and coveted by all serious card players.
Man crush on Aaron Rodgers, since 2003.
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I’m friends with a guy who quit law school for a couple of years to play poker.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
I'm brothers with a guy who dropped out of college to play poker!
Listening to him scream at the computer when he was running bad was somewhere between sad, scary, and hilarious.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
Apparently back when online poker was legal, this was a viable job because there was plenty of easy money with all the bad players out there.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 10, 2011 12:13 AM PST up reply actions
Easy money in a relative sense.
No-Limit Texas Hold’em is still a fairly high-variance game and the nature of gambling is that it’s not a matter of “if” you go broke but “when.” But my brother had a pretty good run of it for the amount of effort he put in, and in his case it just happened that he was back in school when it all went to shit.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
This kind of stuff makes me laugh
It’s like people south of Hwy 92 are incapable of having an original concept. Granted I think these are Cal Grads that decided to open small businesses and “import” Berkeley ideas/concepts, but please, really?
Berkeley Dog sources their sausages and whatnot from the same supplier as Top Dog.
Also, they have one in Irvine, a college town that has a bunch of streets named for superior universities (and Stanford [sic]) that serve as a cruel reminder to UCI students where they could have gone had the only applied themselves a little more in high school.
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Do they make themselves feel better by installing an In-N out next to their campus?
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
Imagine going to Irvine
They have no “Top Dog” or “La Burrita” or any of those charming small neighborhood joints that we all look back on so fondly.
Instead, there’s PF Chang’s and Claimjumpers and CPK and Applebee’s… It’s a giant strip mall.
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not true – i went to a great mexican place that’s a total irvine local hangout and has a fantastic taco tuesday- forget the name tho
Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
I'm exaggerating a bit
But that’s seriously how it feels. Like if our campus were located right next to Bay Street.
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SOCAL IS ALL A GIANT STRIPMALL!
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
THEIR TOLLWAYS ARE HOURLY PARKING LOTS!
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
They use raw sewage from the Colorado river as a water source!
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
wut u think of El Grullense on woodside?
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
me gusta mucho, pero hay muchos taquerias en ciudad de redwood como se llama “taqueria el grullense”
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OH LOL
how many? the one i be talkin bout on 84 and gordon next to the starcocks, and it has infinite guac
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
o rite i was talkin bout this one holmes http://www.yelp.com/biz/taqueria-el-grullense-redwood-city good ass carnitas and street-style tacos the one on woodside is hella pop w/ the whiteys and stoners as evidenced by that photo
Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
Last time I was there was with a chinese, a japanese, and a hebrew. Maybe the white people get kicked out when the azn’s and israelites come in?
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
Didn’t have time to close it, I am trying to figure out which screennames I am gonna use for this KA chat @ 1PM.
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
The audio equipment company, the Indian freedom fighter, or both?
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
The speaker company sucks, but their headsets for flying planes are okay.
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
I read “headsets flying” and thought you were talking about Jeff Tedford.
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
They are actually earmuffs with the AT&T logo.
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
He lives both everywhere, but also nowhere
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Goldblooded haz Rosetta Stone?
If you didn’t understand, click this link: HERE
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i live half a mile south of 92, am i unoriginal?! i suppose i am, considering i’m named after my great-grandfather
Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
I can’t believe there’s a in San Diego serving Berkeley style pizza imitating Chicago style pizza.
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There was a place in Carmichael called the Dog Out that did the same thing.
Which was awesome, because it was close enough to home that I could run out and get a kielbasa during halftime.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
I believe sec119 does as well.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe so.
Technically, I’m a UCSC alum, and I live in Berkeley.
I can also hear the Campanile in my North Berkeley neighborhood.
"We do not seek men who will bravely lie down to die, but men who will fight valiantly to live."
"Winning is not everything. It is far better to play the game squarely and lose than to win at the sacrifice of an ideal."
-- Andrew Latham Smith
What if you had gone to UC Walnut Creek???
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Thats in Pleasant Hill, dude. C’mon!
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This is an odd segway
which Cal players does anybody think could make it into the NFL ( horribly constructed question but I’ll stick to it)? I think Kendricks, our LT, MJ, and Guyton are the best bets to do so.
What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?
oh I meant for next year
but yeah KA is a lock two years from now
What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?
as in David Segui?
What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?
Kendricks, Anger…Marvin Jones. That’s bout it.
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
Would only be more disturbing if the mother and daughter's positions were switched
What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?
Spencer Ladner
Viking (not the football kind)
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
lol
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
Dickie V on Monty
I asked Vitale about where Mike Montgomery fits in among the nation’s elite coaches and his impressions of Cal’s 2011-12 team. Here’s what the always expansive one had to say:
"You know, Mike among his peers, and people like myself as well, is one of the great teachers in the game. He’s a teacher. He’s a purist. He loves being in the gym. He likes taking a player, making him a better player and ultimately putting him into a team concept and having him play.
Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?
gah just bought them
literally 1 minute ago. thanks though.
Deposed (and recently graduated!) #1 Indian
I might be buying one!
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
I lost my season tickets and now have to pay $10 PER TICKET to get into the games.
Thanks, Cal football
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If you’re so loyal, why’d you lose your tickets?
Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.
Doesn’t your staff do your cleaning?
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
Well TBF, like any good Cal grad, he hired one of the many unemployed furd grads to do his cleaning… His only mistake was leaving the tickets on the counter.
"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"
THE UPPER LOW THAT IS FCST TO AFFECT THE
DISTRICT IS CURRENTLY NEAR 40/140. THE 12Z GFS DROPS THE UPPER
LOW SSE THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT…KEEPING IT WEST OF 135W. THE 12Z
NAM BRING THE UPPER LOW BY 12Z FRIDAY TO NEAR 35/132. BOTTOM LINE
IS THAT ALL FCST MODELS KEEP THURSDAY DRY. BOTH THE 12Z NAM AND
THE 12Z GFS KEEP THURSDAY NIGHT DRY AS WELL. THE 12Z GFS BRINGS
MOST OF THE RAIN ON FRIDAY SOUTH OF NORTHERN SONOMA/NAPA
COUNTIES…AND IN FACT BRINGS THE BULK OF THE RAIN SOUTH OF THE
DISTRICT. THE LOW LEVEL SSE FLOW IS ALSO NOT CONDUCIVE FOR
OROGRAPHICS…SO WILL HAVE TO LOOK CLOSELY AT BOTH POPS FOR
THURSDAY NIGHT/FRIDAY AND QPF. FOR NOW…THURSDAY WILL BE DRY
ACROSS THE DISTRICT AND WILL WAIT TO SEE THE 12Z ECMWF BEFORE
PULLING BACK THE POPS ON THURSDAY NIGHT.
PREVIOUS EXTENDED…MOST OF THE SHOWERS WILL END BY FRIDAY NIGHT
AS A DRIER NW FLOW SETS UP. A FEW MINOR IMPULSES ARE FORECAST TO
POTENTIALLY TRIGGER SOME ADDITIONAL RAINFALL CHANCES SO COULD NOT
GO WITH A COMPLETELY DRY FORECAST. HOWEVER…ANY RAIN THAT FALLS
OVER THE WEEKEND AND THE FIRST PART OF NEXT WEEK WOULD BE MINOR.
HIGHS WILL BE IN THE MID 50S TO MID 60S WITH LOWS IN THE UPPER 30S
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
A lot going on in SF election news:
an Francisco voters gave Mayor Ed Lee’s pension reform plan a resounding victory Tuesday night, while rejecting a competing measure by Public Defender Jeff Adachi. Both measures were designed to trim the amount the city pays for its workers’ retirements.
The 68 percent support for Lee’s Proposition C was a surprisingly easy victory.
“We knew we were ahead of (Adachi’s) Proposition D, but this exceeded our expectations,” said Nathan Ballard, a spokesman for the campaign. Adachi’s measure collected just under 34 percent of the vote.
With all 429 precincts reporting, voters also approved two of the ballot’s three money measures.
Proposition A, a $531 million bond measure to renovate and rebuild 53 aging schools, collected 70 percent of the vote, far more than the 55 percent needed for passage.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/11/08/MNNQ1LQQOH.DTL#ixzz1dFF2vceJ
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Also, Lafayettes streets are saved!
G – City of Lafayette – Spc. Parcel Tax – 2/3
Vote type summary
Contest Detail Map
5 of 5 Precincts Reporting
Percent Votes
Yes
57.76% 3,413
No
42.24% 2,496
5,909
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i like this house
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/11/08/BUBK1LRKHE.DTL
(just not at that price, but everything else is pretty much a win.)
CGB: What are your pet peeves?
Note, by definition, this is going to be a #firstworldproblems thread, so spare those jokes.
I’ll begin!
People who comment on your food in a negative way. Like “Oh, that looks weird”. You’re not eating it, I am! And I like it! Shut up!
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Group decision making
“I dunno-what do YOU want to do for dinner?” AAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGH.. I have abandoned people during trips when this happens.
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lulz no asians in this thread
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Rishi
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
you mean like people who always tell you what’s nutritionally wrong with your food????
by fiatlux on Nov 9, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
pqtm
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
Vegetarians who bring curds & whey / tofu patties to my game day barbeque and expect me to grill that shit.
by Anchorsteam Bear on Nov 9, 2011 1:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Really? Why?
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
Cause vegetarians are annoying and preachy and come on the barbeque grill is made for real meat, not that hippie bulls*** seriously
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by Rishi on Nov 9, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
i just don’t like it when vegetarians get a hissy when there isn’t a vegetarian dish at a tailgate. “well fuck, why didn’t you something then?”
Why didnt they something! I agree!
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But if I can’t bring my tofu burger to grill, whwat am I supposed to do at the bbq?!
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Yeah, if I know a vegetarian is coming, I always try to put together some options.
Or, let them grill/cook whatever they want. Don’t see what the big deal is.
Old Toothwrangler
Well, I’m going to coat my tofu burgers in powdered peanut butter…
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and cinnamon roll nitro core 24?
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
I need to order some of that stuff from Amazon, no one has it locally.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
AMZN is great. So is fitrx.com when they have free shipping coupons
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Okay, that’s the place.
Mrs. Kod has gotten hooked on the cinnamon nitro core. She started a kick-boxing class and uses it as her recovery drink.
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So, you’re hobbling around and Mrs. Kod is kickboxing… you’re not worried are you? Cause some men… they might be worried.
Cal: Bears with Books.
Not Kodiak. Somebody needs to carry him up and down the stairs.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
Nope. She got interested in taking the class at the same place Little K takes martial arts lessons. I think it’ll be great for her – good exercise and really healthy mentally to de-stress as well as having the sense of accomplishment of getting better at something.
So, I encouraged her to do it.
If she married me for my ability to lift heavy objects or to beat someone up, she seriously got bait n’ switched.
Besides, I anticipate her looking all hawt n’ fit right about the time my hip works again…
Old Toothwrangler
Woahhh, TMI on that last bit, Doc.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
go on…
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
somehow i feel like this explains how you got permission for the golf net more than anything.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
Did he provide any uh, exercise videos that demonstrate the sorts of movements you’ll need to practice?
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
well..
could explain why kod keeps doing this in the middle of conversations:
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
Actually the circle started either with Mrs. Kod’s kickboxing or with Rishi’s pet peeves… unless we’re saying that Rishi has a pet goat, and it’s named “Peeves”….
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
Mr. Peeves and I aren’t on speaking terms anymore.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 10, 2011 12:14 AM PST up reply actions
please put your pants back on, and pick your jaw off the floor.
Deposed (and recently graduated!) #1 Indian
be sure to post free shipping offers like they’re for cufflinks/pocket squares
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
kk, I will.
Apparently, my e-mail is now a giant cesspool for deals
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also, I’m thinking of wearing a cal themed tie to work next friday.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
Though, I will say that flexibility/reasonability has to go both ways. If they refuse to use the same grill because that grill has at some point in its life touched meat, then I don’t feel like I’d have to accommodate that.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, at that point they can piss off.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
Or at least have their own friggin’ BBQ.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
Is it unreasonable for me to ask you to grill the veggie burger first?
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if you’re there and good to go, not at all. getting pissy showing up an hour later, irritating.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
Okay, I think that’s fair enough.
Though I’d clean the grill myself and then bbq them
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I’d be ok w/it if you wanted to clean the grill.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
If you’re there early enough and ask politely then yeah, I suppose I could set aside some grill space for you.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
Well, then. In that case, here’s an extra helping of Go Fuck Yourself.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
Only some noodles.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
I do have Sriracha, though!
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Eat lots of potato chips.
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
Diet potato chips.
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
Did you know that this is the best selling peanut butter on AMZN?
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people who want to make PB flavored protein shakes?
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
actually, my favorite shake to make is a couple scoops of peanuts, a couple spoons of pb, couple scoops of yogurt, some bananas, some chocolate protein, milk, and ice.
If you don’t already, freeze your bananas. Also, instead of blending in ice, toss in a bunch of ice cubes and swirl it around for thirty seconds, then toss the ice.
Creamier shakes and they’re still cold!
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Why not?
It’s a lot cheaper (per jar) and it gets delivered really quickly!
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Yep. We order almond butter on Amazon. Pretty convenient and good prices.
The girls love it as a substitute for PB.
Old Toothwrangler
Trader Joe’s has the best almond butter in this world. It has Flaxseeds in it, which makes it nice and crunchy. mmmm
Also, Target sells a peanut butter with wihte chocolate (or dark chocolate) in it
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Yeah, we like the Trader Joe’s brand, too.
But, the girls aren’t too picky and I haven’t been able to go shopping as much.
So, prime shipping it is!
Old Toothwrangler
Dawg
All Amazon Mom members qualify for three months of FREE Two-Day shipping with Amazon Prime.
Two day free shipping from AMZN is amazing.
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What is this? Is it good or bad
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powdered peanut butter. not something you generally find in stores.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
You're supposed to mix it wit hwater to turn it into regular peanut butter
I don’t know what to think!
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i dunno, seems like the possibilities would be endless. it’s a peanut based protein powder with significantly reduced fat content.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
I actually need more dietary fat, so I wouldn’t go for this. But I imagine there’s somebody out there who could use this… low fat PB cookies, PB flavored shakes, etc etc.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
That sounds nasty.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
This is why I’m worried about Anchorsteam’s comment… when I’ve gone to events such as BBQs and tailgating, I typically do all my eating ahead of time because I figure there’s not gonna be much to eat for me. Then my friends feel all bad cuz there’s no vegetarian food and they’re all stuffing their face.
I felt bad for putting them in that position, so I started bringing veggie patties with me to these things so I could eat with them and nobody would feel bad. I thought I was being polite. Now I don’t know what to do! I guess I could stop hanging out with my friends, but that kinda sucks.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
You could come hang out with me. I’m fun!
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I’d be talking about healthcare policy and wholesale regime changes the entire time. How fun would that be?
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
Very!
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
Well, itd be easy to make fun of you
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Don't worry
I was teasing Rishi. Hell, I’ll grill ANYTHING. Including a vegetable medley in a grill basket for darling daughter.
by Anchorsteam Bear on Nov 9, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
oh phew.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
you should read his follow up.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
What were you eating?
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Veggie burger.
Just brought up memories of other times people have done that.
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A veggie burger looks weird to people? What is this, 1986?
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
That’s so 99%.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
Dude, veggie burgers were totally normal in Berkeley in 1986.
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Was Berkeley totally normal in 1986?
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
No.
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
Football team went 2-9 and the head coach unzipped his fly during a weekly press conference. That was totally normal.
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Cal beat 21-point favorite Stanfurd in the Big Game. That was not totally normal.
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
Kevin Brown!
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Well played.
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don't know why this is making me laugh.
A $5,000 reward was proposed Tuesday night to help catch anyone responsible for vandalizing Newport Beach’s Ronald Reagan statue over the weekend.
Councilman Keith Curry asked the city manager and police chief to organize the reward. It would be given for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the vandal or vandals.
Curry was a leader in the effort to commission the bronze artwork and worked in the Reagan administration, the Daily Pilot reported.
The life-size statue at Bonita Canyon Sports Park was yanked partially off its base early Sunday by a vandal or vandals using a rope attached to a tan pickup truck, according to police. Officials do not know whether the intent was to steal the statue or just deface it.
How did they deface it? it still has a face!
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Bet the “vandals” were after the metal (brass?) content.
Metal theft has been a problem since 2006 in the Bay Area.
"We do not seek men who will bravely lie down to die, but men who will fight valiantly to live."
"Winning is not everything. It is far better to play the game squarely and lose than to win at the sacrifice of an ideal."
-- Andrew Latham Smith
Its in LA, so they are totally stealin gour swag!
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If they went to the trouble of attaching a rope to the statue and attempted to pull it away with a pickup truck, I’m gonna infer intent to steal.
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How to Take Your 4-Year-Old Daughter to a Football Game
For all the football-obsessed parents
High on the list of things I’ve been meaning to do since I moved to New York in 2004 is going up to a Columbia University football game. I blame myself for the failure to make this happen for seven years, but I will say it’s tough to find a wingman for a trip like that, and a solo mission to watch an Ivy League school with which I have absolutely no affiliation always felt like a bridge I didn’t want to cross. I also struggled, when raising the idea every year, to answer my wife’s fundamental question, “Why the hell am I going to sit in the cold to watch a football game between Columbia and Brown?” This year, I stopped asking my wife. Instead, I found a wingman who does not ask the kind of questions that reduce a man’s long-held dreams to trivia. I invited my helpless 4-year-old daughter.
Granted, my sales pitch was vague. I told Lucie we were going on a “subway adventure.” That could have meant we were going to the Museum of Natural History, where she’s on a first-name basis with the life-size elephants and runs a tab at the gift shop. It could have meant we were going to live out some wild 4-year-old fantasy, like swimming in a pool full of Jolly Ranchers while Angelina Ballerina and Handy Manny cheered us on. Or it could have meant we were going to watch the winless Columbia Lions play host to Harvard at Lawrence A. Wien Stadium. Luckily, she didn’t ask for details.
Lucie was a great date. She enthusiastically packed the giant, pink Dora the Explorer backpack that consumes three-quarters of her body with two apples, some Goldfish crackers, a scarf, and a hat. I threw in some toys on the off chance the Ivy League football game somehow didn’t hold her attention. My wife was happy to see the two of us off, mainly because she knew that after seven years of kicking the can down the road, she was off the hook forever. She stayed home with our 2-year-old son, whose naptime didn’t jibe with the 12:30 p.m. kickoff. Come to think of it, he may have been faking a nap so he didn’t have to come to the game.
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I can relate -- sort of
Took my son to Big Game 2008 at Memorial when he was 4. He loved it. Went down onto the field after the game and exited the south tunnel with him on my shoulders yelling “You know it! …”
by daveman on Nov 9, 2011 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
yeah this
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
Totally awesome.
I’m really looking forward to taking Little K to the home opener at Memorial next year.
Old Toothwrangler
too bad the stadium won’t be ready.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
dominoes are falling. err, seats aren’t going up?
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
You're always young
when you witness a kid’s joy.
"We do not seek men who will bravely lie down to die, but men who will fight valiantly to live."
"Winning is not everything. It is far better to play the game squarely and lose than to win at the sacrifice of an ideal."
-- Andrew Latham Smith
So, can you confirm if you and Daveman are neighbors now????
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Probably not within two blocks of each other.
I’d remember that smilin’ face.
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"Winning is not everything. It is far better to play the game squarely and lose than to win at the sacrifice of an ideal."
-- Andrew Latham Smith
Maybe you saw him after Big Game 2010?
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That smile only fills me with a sense of creeping dread as I know raising a child as a Cal fan is setting them up for a lifetime of emotional disappointment. I see your son smiling here and I think “Sure, Big Game 2008 is going to be great, but when he’s 35 and hasn’t seen Cal go to a Rose Bowl, he’s going to need a lot of therapy.”
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Didn't take that long
Took him to Big Game 2010 and he was crying when the ’Furd scored with :30 left before halftime and went up 31-0. He turned to me with tears streaming down his face and asked if we could go home. Damn the ’Furd! Yes, his therapy bill will be expensive.
my first game as a kid was a homecoming game vs USC. They used to do a 5K fun run that I did with my Dad that morning.
I recall sitting in the north end zone with maybe 50 people in the section. Cal getting destroyed, and lots of swearing from grumpy alums (so, basically any game in the 80s). My dad commented that maybe next time we’d check out a non Pac-10 game.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
I still haven’t taken my son (now 6) to a Cal game. I fail at life.
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You don’t fail at life, Ohio Bear. You are just a terrible father.
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
That’s the nicest thing you’ve ever said to me. (wipes tear)
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Why is this not green yet?!?
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Kid was legit this past Saturday
Check him out, not giving a shit about the rain. Sat through the entire game and then got pissed it was over.
by daveman on Nov 9, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Do you see him as… a QB? LB? WR?
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
did you say you’re selling your tix to this sat’s game? you not going?
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
Still trying to decide. Kid’s school has a fundraising gala at 6:30 pm that I’m supposed to help out at. Was hoping to go for an hour or so and just leave early, but might not be able to do that. You interested in tickets?
fundraising gala shmundraising gala! neither rain, nor sleet, nor fundraisers….
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Neither rain, ITS THE FIRST ONE!
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Ragscub totally likes Cal Games!
There’s music and clapping, and frozen lemonade and people to talk to and seats that fold up. She’s been to 2 AT&T games and traveled to Colorado. She’s even been to 2 baseball games! And If if doesn’t rain, she’ll come to this saturday, equiped with her own Cal toddler tailgate chair.
Cal: Bears with Books.
Pic goes here
I’ve very kindly cropped out my friends face who was holding Ragscub, but it’s totally in AT&T.
Cal: Bears with Books.
by AndBears on Nov 9, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
i totally recognize that hairline.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
Is Mitt Romney holding your baby/
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look at all those empty seats in the background
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
Just like any UCLA game
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KID-OFF! IT’S A KID-OFF!!!!
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- What’s that I see drifting further away, through the distant clouds?
Probably victory. *
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
Hammer time!
Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.
Wait are we actually not allowed to use that image? Becuase I have some good ones!
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
.,.,.
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 6:02 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
mostly the orking.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 10, 2011 12:30 AM PST up reply actions
But we did beat USC with Aaron Rodgers!
Man crush on Aaron Rodgers, since 2003.
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Started going to Cal games when I was 4..it was the perfect way to learn new words. Then again Memorial was an empty place in those days…
"Our hearts shall sing and our voices ring for the dear old Blue and Gold!"
No Owusu for Oregon-furd game this weekend
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/11/08/SPKI1LS58P.DTL
A decision on Chris Owusu’s football future won’t come this week, although he won’t play Saturday against Oregon as a result of his concussion at Oregon State.
“We’re still talking about what to do after this week,” head coach David Shaw said Tuesday, “but he feels great right now. He’s in great spirits.” Shaw said Owusu wants to play Saturday, “but that’s not his decision right now.”
In the biggest game of the Pac-12 season, freshman Ty Montgomery will start in Owusu’s spot opposite Griff Whalen. Montgomery, who has only seven catches and is looking for his first TD catch, also will return kickoffs and presumably will serve as a gunner on punt coverage.
Nowusu
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Were rooting for Oregon, right?
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by TwistNHook on Nov 9, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I am.
Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.
by CalBandGreat on Nov 9, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That is the official CGB stance!
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by Rishi on Nov 9, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Did we fill out all the paperwork?
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I filled it out while you were still petting the goat.
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by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
Filled out all the paperwork, but still waiting for credit approval.
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
Great to hear Howell is back, and also great that Owusu is feeling good, but there was no way he could play this week after what happened against OSU.
Hope the mighty Cardinal beats the dirty Ducks down. Its like good vs. evil…good shall prevail (!)
THERE IS NOTHING GOOD ABOUT STANFURD AND NOTHING MIGHTY ABOUT THE CARDINAL
2011 World Cup Champions Team India
by Rishi on Nov 9, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think the two previous hits (WSU & U$C) on Owusu were illegal and dangerous, but the OSU back was just playing good football – both he and Owusu lowered their shoulders into each other and their helmets made incidental contact, but no defenseless player foul was warranted.
With an enthusiasm unknown to mankind, yes.
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Really
They should think first and foremost of his health; I don’t think it would be safe for him to play next week either.
Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?
by Cugel on Nov 9, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Washington Post Editorial on Joe Paterno
Interesting read that, I think, Kodiak and I agree with, given earlier discussions…..
Paterno did what he was supposed to, some would argue. Others deserve greater blame, the coach’s supporters believe. Tim Curley, Penn State’s athletic director, and Gary Schultz, a university vice president, have been charged with failing to notify authorities after the alleged incident at the team complex.
This isn’t a sliding scale.
Everyone who had knowledge of what allegedly occurred in 2002 had an obligation — morally, if not legally — to do all they could to help authorities determine what happened. Paterno didn’t do that.
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
COME TO PENN STATE
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
That last one seemed too friendly, this one is creepier
COME TA PENN STATE NOW!
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
lol
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 2:38 PM PST reply actions
Guess what this is
Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.
by CalBandGreat on Nov 9, 2011 2:56 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
a post in which there is an embedded pictures, but that’s not important right now.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
Ski boots with no skis.
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
A single plum in a man’s hat?
Its from the Simpsons.
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ahem,
I believe the line is “a single plum floating in perfume served in a man’s hat”
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I didnt take the time to look up the specific line, that is correct. I just did it off my head
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Boom!
Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.
William Tell’s secret stash?
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
WHO IS IN YOUR HAT NOW?
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 3:14 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
I do wish I were taller!
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
Wow.
Just wow.
Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.
Too much ouch.
Over his tenure in Berkeley, Tedford yas yet to defeat the Beavers and head coach Mike Riley at home, and is 2-7 against Oregon State overall.
Tedford talks injuries, past failures against Beavs
With that trend, Tedford would be forgiven if he rolled sophomore wide receiver Keenan Allen head-to-toe in bubble wrap before Saturday’s home finale at AT&T Park.
LOL. Sort of.
The 2-7
2002 OSU 24-13 (Corvallis)
2003 OSU 35-21 (Berkeley)
2004 Cal 49-7 (Corvallis)
2005 OSU 23-20 (Berkeley)
2006 Cal 41-13 (Corvallis)
2007 OSU 31-28 (Berkeley)
2008 OSU 34-21 (Corvallis)
2009 OSU 31-14 (Berkeley)
2010 OSU 35-7 (Corvallis)
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lol 28 21 14 7
……..0?
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
DOOOOOOOOOOOOM
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
7, 14, 21, 28, 35, 42
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
Oh god it’s LOST all over again.
"Today's weather, excessively violent with a chance of dismemberment. Tune in later for our 5-day forecast!"
~ Three Dog - Fallout 3
Yes, the flipside is that you curse everyone around you with the worst of luck for the rest of your life.
"Today's weather, excessively violent with a chance of dismemberment. Tune in later for our 5-day forecast!"
~ Three Dog - Fallout 3
At least you own the fried chicken place!
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
2003 was especially ugly. Rodgers’s numbers that day were something like 9/24..
by the federer express on Nov 9, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Worse
If memory serves, it was 9 of 34 for 52 yards and, I think, a couple of picks. We stayed in the game (sort of) because of Echemandu’s running and a pick 6 by Daymeion Hughes.
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good memory—I knew there was a “4” somewhere in there.
by the federer express on Nov 9, 2011 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
Can we keep them up 30?
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it occurs to me that OSU is, for some reason, the only Pac-12 school I’ve never seen us beat in person. sigh.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
In the olden days, when I was young, they were an almost automatic win. Sigh.
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
When I was an undergrad, we beat them only once. In my 4 years at Cal, we went L, L, DNP, W.
The 61-minute game was in that span.
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I SAW PAT BARNES BEAT THEM 13-12 IN CORVALLIS -
Barnes was thrown out of the game for taunting – when we went up 13-12. This was when OSU was the worst 1-A major team in the country.
Was that the game where Tarik Glenn got in trouble for knocking over their mascot?
The mascot was hitting all the Cal players with an over-sized mallet as they emerged from the tunnel. Tarik kinda shrugged and the mascot went flying. Then it was awkward because it turned out that it was a rather petite girl inside the costume.
Old Toothwrangler
Lulz
A Facebook friend of mine has this photo with the following caption:
I’m calling for THIS Friday to be “International Spinal Tap Day”! Who’s with me?! Change your profile photo on Friday to your favorite ‘Tap Moment’. Smell the glove. Break like the wind. And turn it up to 11, on 11/11/11
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Miss. defeats life-at-fertilization ballot prop
JACKSON, Miss.—Mississippi voters Tuesday defeated a ballot initiative that would have declared life begins at fertilization, a proposal that supporters sought in the Bible Belt state as a way to prompt a legal challenge to abortion rights nationwide.
The so-called “personhood” initiative was rejected by more than 55 percent of voters, falling far short of the threshold needed for it to be enacted. If it had passed, it was virtually assured of drawing legal challenges because it conflicts with the Supreme Court’s 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that established a legal right to abortion. Supporters of the initiative wanted to provoke a lawsuit to challenge the landmark ruling.
The measure divided the medical and religious communities and caused some of the most ardent abortion opponents, including Republican Gov. Haley Barbour, to waver with their support.
Amazing disparity. No shit.
Cal’s defense is puzzling to say the least, a fact reinforced by limiting Washington State to seven points, its lowest total of the season, on Nov. 5 at home, seven days after yielding 31 points to UCLA on the road. In the 11 home games Cal has played since Clancy Pendergast became defensive coordinator, Cal foes are averaging just 11.0 points a game, but in the nine road games, opponents are averaging 32.8 points. That’s an amazing disparity. This season, Cal is limiting opponents to 14.75 points at home but allowing 34.5 points on the road. Fitting the model perfectly is the fact that in their one neutral-site game, the Bears yielded 21 points—10 points more than their home average and 13.5 points less than their road average. Not surprisingly, Cal is 7-4 in those home games, and 2-7 on the road.
The "neutral site" game
The defense played well in that game. Fresno scored 3 TDs: 1 on defense, 1 off a 13-yard drive following an interception, and 1 in garbage time.
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Pakistan
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/12/the-ally-from-hell/8730/?single_page=true
The Ally From Hell
Pakistan lies. It hosted Osama bin Laden (knowingly or not). Its government is barely functional. It hates the democracy next door. It is home to both radical jihadists and a large and growing nuclear arsenal (which it fears the U.S. will seize). Its intelligence service sponsors terrorists who attack American troops. With a friend like this, who needs enemies?
yup
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
Surprised no-one posted this
If you’re angry at the big banks, what’s the next logical step?
The campuswide day of action in support of affordable higher education and the Occupy movement has grown throughout the day to over a thousand students at its peak in the early afternoon, from teach-outs in the morning to a noontime rally that was attended by about 1,000 people.
The protest activities thus far have mirrored past protests with teach-outs and a rally on Sproul Plaza, but in addition to a focus on state budget cuts and the affordability of higher education, the protest has strongly identified with the national Occupy movement and included a march to Bank of America on Telegraph Avenue.
Deposed (and recently graduated!) #1 Indian
lol
Let’s protest in front of a retail branch. THAT will teach the people on Wall Street!
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DUH, don’t you know that people who are first to answer the phone or door TOTALLY have all the power?!
Cal: Bears with Books.
okay, serious now
They are trying to set up Occupy Cal. There have already been arrests. Daily Cal liveblogging.
Students, PLEASE. Understand two things. 1) If you’re going to get change, then REACH THE PEOPLE WHO MATTER. 2)Camping on UCB Property IS illegal AND YOU CAN BE ARRESTED. Learn what civil disobedience entails, THEN make your decisions.
Cal: Bears with Books.
This always always always bugged me about the ultra leftists who would show up around Berkeley.
They would get arrested for civil disobedience . . . .AND THEN COMPLAIN ABOUT BEING ARRESTED. Isn’t that what civil disobedience entails?
Exactly. There are all these people who run around saying ’I’m not breaking any laws’, who are basically just idiots.
Cal: Bears with Books.
remember the very first time i visited cal, before i was a student, there was a protest where the folks wanting more latino students on campus blocked the intersection at bowditch and channing. and while they were being arrested, they were like “why?”
I get the idea of civil disobedience . . .and sometimes I agree with the causes. But if you get arrested for it – that’s the intent! I feel like i’m taking crazy pills!
Precisely. The whole point of civil disobedience is the example provided by a principled person who is willing to accept the consequences of disobeying the law in the name of a greater good, whether those consequences entail jail time, expulsion from school, or whatever. A person who engages in “civil disobedience” but wants to be excused from the consequences is not engaging in civil disobedience at all. That person is just a thug.
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
I arrived in Berkeley as a pretty liberal guy (democrat, not Sparticus league) and I think for general Americans I’m still pretty left, but the various causes in Berkeley pushed me rightward more than anytihng.
I know several people like that.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
I arrived in Berkeley as a pretty conservative gal. I found most of the Berkeley left-wing people to be silly and immature. I have gotten more liberal as I have gotten older. But I still find most of the Berkeley left-wing people to be silly and immature.
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
by CalBear81 on Nov 9, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I entered as a moderate-left leaning person, ignored the idiots on both sides (but to be fair, more on the left because it’s Berkeley), and graduated as a more informed moderate left-leaning person.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
.,.,.
“Right, I was going to listen to your CD, but then I just sort of carried on living my life…”
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
Something like that :)
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
I love that movie
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It’s the code of the ocean!
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 10, 2011 8:46 AM PST up reply actions
It is no better living within Berkeley, either.
I grew up as a very liberal young man. Somewhere in my late 20s I began to move rightward. It’s only been within the last 4 or 5 years that I have found myself embracing what I consider to be progressive thinking.
But I have found that this does not include most of the loudmouthed firebrands who label themselves “progressive”. I agree with the Robert Reich definition of progressive, which starts with the premise that we are, all of us, in the same boat together. What affects one, affects another.
"We do not seek men who will bravely lie down to die, but men who will fight valiantly to live."
"Winning is not everything. It is far better to play the game squarely and lose than to win at the sacrifice of an ideal."
-- Andrew Latham Smith
Damn those Berkeley unions!
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
I’m with Leon on this. I thought I was a pretty liberal guy (and nationally, I’m sure I was and still am) but I had no idea of how far left the far left was until I got here. Also the residual anti-Americanism always bothered me; after the fall of Saigon, someone painted a NVA flag in the middle of Parker St. (I think). That always pissed me off.
Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?
I was always pissed off by the DRIVING stenciled on the STOP signs so it would say STOP DRIVING.
I LOVE driving. So that’s kind of the same thing, right?
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
i have a theory that ZRW did each and every one of those by hand
Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
by stencil and spray paint.
You wouldn’t give him the credit of being careful, would you?
"We do not seek men who will bravely lie down to die, but men who will fight valiantly to live."
"Winning is not everything. It is far better to play the game squarely and lose than to win at the sacrifice of an ideal."
-- Andrew Latham Smith
I know you’re only kidding, but it’s not. It’s one thing to be against American involvement in the Viet Nam war; it’s another to cheer for people trying to kill Americans.
Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?
I mean according to Daily Cal Live blogging, there are tents on the grass outside Sproul Hall.
Cal: Bears with Books.
ah I understand now. Because of your second sentence, I thought you meant someone was trying to “set the protesters up” to get arrested or something
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Main screen turn on.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
Take off every zig!
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
Don’t students, by definition, occupy Cal?
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
I wonder how many students are paying ungodly gobs of money for student housing and are leaving that housing to sleep in tents to “occupy cal”.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
There’s a “Little Palestine” section of the Occupy Oakland protest, wherein people are protesting the occupation of Palestine by Israel….by occupying Oakland.
Which I kind of find hilarious. I wonder if they’d then support OPD suicide bombing their camp?
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
On Civil Disobedience
I don’t intend to recapitulate Henry David Thoreau’s essay. But I do intend to draw a distinction between what Thoreau called civil disobedience and the improper application of that term.
Thoreau stated that civil disobedience was the act of violating an unjust law for the purpose of illustrating the law’s injustice. In his case, Thoreau refused to pay a poll tax because it was used to fund the Mexican-American War.
Martin Luther King, Jr. used civil disobedience as a non-violent tactic to highlight the injustice of Jim Crow laws. One such famous example was blacks using facilities marked “White Only”. Another example was Rosa Parks refusing to move from her seat at the front of the bus when ordered to do so by a white bus driver.
The Occupy movement is not using civil disobedience per se. They are not attempting to break an unjust law to highlight the injustice of that particular unjust law. They are, instead, committing an illegal act (camping out on public property) to demonstrate against Wall Street greed. The act has nothing per se to do with the intended target. Therefore, using “civil disobedience” to describe the action is not only a misnomer, it also undermines the cause of non-violent social justice.
I am angry and disappointed with journalists that they either do not understand the difference or fail to point it out. Further, I accuse journalists of being partners (witting or not) in the crime of dumbing down discourse in America today.
Our democracy continues to be at stake while the forces of evil and ignorance run roughshod over the landscape.
"We do not seek men who will bravely lie down to die, but men who will fight valiantly to live."
"Winning is not everything. It is far better to play the game squarely and lose than to win at the sacrifice of an ideal."
-- Andrew Latham Smith
How about peaceful demonstration marches? Do they undermine the cause of non-violent social justice?
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
If done properly, that wouldn’t break any laws, would it?
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 9, 2011 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
No. It all goes to $#it when windows get busted, storefronts looted, and graffiti defaces buildings, though.
That shouldn’t ever happen if the demonstration is non-violent. And those who are non-violent should do their best to make sure that the thugs are arrested and not shielded by the crowd.
"We do not seek men who will bravely lie down to die, but men who will fight valiantly to live."
"Winning is not everything. It is far better to play the game squarely and lose than to win at the sacrifice of an ideal."
-- Andrew Latham Smith
Agreed 100%
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
FiatSlug is Emile Zola?
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
I guess I better be careful of the phrases I use to start a sentence.
Am I likely to face a charge of criminal libel?
"We do not seek men who will bravely lie down to die, but men who will fight valiantly to live."
"Winning is not everything. It is far better to play the game squarely and lose than to win at the sacrifice of an ideal."
-- Andrew Latham Smith
lol
Protesters are making a line to guard the grass next to the Sproul steps where the tents have been put, singing, "We shall not be moved."
Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
this is an "occupation".
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/national/2011/11/09/28/0302000000AEN20111109005600315F.HTML
Kim Jin-sook, a former employee of Hanjin Heavy’s predecessor, has staged a one-woman protest atop a 35-meter tower crane at the Yeongdo shipyard in Busan for 308 days straight.
She is only willing to come down from the crane and seal the deal if the laid-off workers accept the tentative agreement struck between the management and the labor representatives, labor union officials said.
BUSAN, Nov. 9 (Yonhap) — Hanjin Heavy Industries & Construction hammered out a tentative agreement with its unionized workers on Wednesday to end an 11-month-long labor dispute sparked by the shipmaker’s massive layoffs.
She is only willing to come down from the crane and seal the deal
She’s going to come off the crane and uh… do the deed?
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
looks like students from the southern branch occupied the intersection
of westwood and wilshire today, protesting cuts to higher education as well as the banks.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/education-protest-blocks-westwood-intersection-snarls-traffic.html
Traffic in Westwood was badly snarled Wednesday afternoon because of a student protest and street sit-in against the cost of higher education and the banking industry’s purported role in it.
After a march by about 200 protesters from the UCLA campus, several of them sat down in the busy intersection of Westwood and Wilshire boulevards and refused to move for about an hour.
The result was traffic chaos in the Westwood neighborhood, which otherwise is clogged because of construction on the 405 Freeway that runs along its western border.
banking industry’s purported role in it
i think i missed this one… what was the role? providing student loans? THOSE BASTARDS
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 10, 2011 12:32 AM PST up reply actions
The billions of dollars of revenue that they were making off the student loan business wasn’t inflating the cost of those loans at all? The reforms that President Obama has initiated haven’t helped students at the expense of the banking sector?
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 10, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
I’m not completely understanding your argument here. Or your agreement.
Nothing to worry about, it's not like I've learned to open doors or anything.
by RaptorApocalypse on Nov 10, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
The banks had been getting billions of dollars in subsidies to provide student loans until 2009. Now that the government has taken out the middleman banks and the program into direct loans from the government, we can do things like the types of caps and forgiveness programs that were put into place a couple weeks ago.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 10, 2011 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
COMMENCE POKING WITH VIGOR!
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 10, 2011 8:46 AM PST up reply actions
TWSS
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 10, 2011 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
Watched this last night, felt really distressed about it. But in all perspective there have already been multiple talks between the campus administration, student leadership, and the occupy leadership (whatever that is). No one wants conflict like this to happen, and the administration already tried to make a compromise to allow gathering on sproul 24/7 just without the tents or living spaces. Occupy said no. As for the force used, it seems unnecessary to us but it is the lightest force used on a crowd which probably seems threatening. It’s not tasers, it’s not Rodney King, it’s not water cannons aimed at a crowd. And it stops. The cops were not out of control.
Cal: Bears with Books.
TOTES.
I think they want to take a hardline approach so they avoid a permanent encampment and don’t have to spend millions on extra cop presence etc.
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 10, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
Raiders news
Darren McFadden will not play tomorrow vs. Chargers
Michael Bush will start
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Wonder if McFadden could have played if the game was on Sunday.
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I would totally have done that to friends in college.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
You, sir, are an evil man.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
I was in a fraternity, so yeah.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
Basketball recruiting
Tyrone Wallace and Kaileb Rodriguez sign their LOIs
The California men’s basketball program has signed guard Tyrone Wallace (6-4, 180 lbs., Bakersfield HS, Bakersfield, Calif.) and forward Kaileb Rodriguez (6-9, 200 lbs., ThunderRidge HS, Highlands Ranch, Colo.) to National Letters of Intent head coach Mike Montgomery announced on Wednesday, Nov. 9.
In Wallace, the Golden Bears will welcome one of the top guards in the nation. A four-star rated guard by Rivals.com, Wallace is the 14th-ranked point guard and 77th-ranked player in the nation according to Scout.com. He was an All-Area selection as a junior and was recently selected to ESPN’s All-California second team. Wallace was named The Californian’s 2010-11 Boys Basketball Player of the Year after he helped guide his team to the CIF Central Section semifinals.
Rodriguez committed to Cal in April 2011 and played AAU ball with Next Level. A two-star recruit according to ESPN, he is the No. 56-ranked power forward. Rodriguez was selected to the Colorado 5A All-Continental League team, as a junior, and received All-State honors after he put together a season in which he averaged 15 points and nine rebounds per contest.
“Rodriguez is an up and coming forward with great potential,” said Montgomery. “He, too, has great length, and we feel that he’s only scratched the surface in terms of what kind of basketball player he could become. We think that he will only get stronger with experience and are looking forward to having his skills.”
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I don't quite get this part....
He was….recently selected to ESPN’s All-California second team. Wallace was named The Californian’s 2010-11 Boys Basketball Player of the Year….
The best player in California is on the All-California SECOND team??? I’m missing something here….
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
get ready alaska
http://news.yahoo.com/alaska-braces-epic-storm-evacuations-begin-020349170.html
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
you’re epic when it comes to providing the keystone
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
i guess that’s appropriate
“Heroic or grand in scale or character”
but i would tend toward using it less to prevent dilution. just as “awesome” has become nothing.
Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
It’s gonna be legendary!
Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.
No!
It’s going to be a leader in its category, which in this case, is storms.
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
hey, boomtho, was it you who put out a few of those interesting song recommendations a few months ago? I can’t find the post…
by the federer express on Nov 9, 2011 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
pa-zow
http://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/2011/6/23/2241189/dbd-6-24-11-str8-killa-no-filla
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
OLD WAYS
SKINNY DUDE BUT THE FLOW IS THE SIZE OF VING RHAMES
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
This made me pringle
Title of gamethread post on the Hustlebelt (MAC SB Nation blog)
Gamethread: Miami (Ohio) at Temple (Secular)
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Speaking of the MAC
Toledo 66, Western Mich. 63 — in regulation
Total offense: Toledo 804 (eight hundred four), WMU 635.
Toledo football: They’re unbeatable when the defense holds ’em under 64 points and under 700 yards!
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Holy Toledo!
"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded
by atomsareenough on Nov 9, 2011 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, I’m wrong: Toledo held Northern Illinois to only 63 points last week — and lost, 63-60.
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well...damn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiL5Vz58zc4
water from a busted hydrant holding a car up for over an hour.
there’s probably a problem on your physic’s midterm to explain this.
Caption time?
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 5:25 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
.,.,..,.,
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 5:38 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Ahahahahahahahaha
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
.,.,.,.
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 9, 2011 5:57 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 6:06 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
RECD!
In the Game of Trolls, you either troll or you die.
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i love this!
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 10, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions
as I was scanning down, I was like “this is probably a j.lee post…..YEAH I was right!”
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
so random…like even for a dbd
I’m not criticizing, but you have a certain way about your posts.
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 10, 2011 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
Because we wouldn't be Cal Fans if we didn't torture ourselves
If Cal beats Oregon State to become bowl eligible, it’s unclear which bowl Cal would play in, but it would probably be one of following three—the New Mexico Bowl, the Las Vegas Bowl or the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl. Playing in the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl seems the most likely at the moment, and that would put Cal in a game in its 2011 home stadium—AT&T Park. Its opponent there could be any of a number of teams, from Army to a Western Athletic Conference team to an ACC team. In the Las Vegas Bowl, Cal might play TCU. In the New Mexico Bowl, Cal would play the Mountain West fifth-place team, which could be Air Force.
Oh man, if I didn’t just curse us to lose our next three games, I don’t know what I just did! You all can thank me later.
What if it was Fresno State? lulz.
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
forget alabama/lsu, this is the rematch that America demands!
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I DEMAND SATISFACTION!
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 5:49 PM PST up reply actions
Still possible
But Fresno State (3-6) needs to win its last four games (at NMSU, at Hawaii, San Jose State, at San Diego State)
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possible, given that slate!
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
Possible, but I think unlikely. I think they prolly lose at Hawaii and at SDSU.
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I'd love a Las Vegas bowl matchup vs. TCU
The day before our bball matchup @ UNLV. Road trip?
*Insert something witty here*. Oh, and Stanfurd Sucks.
woohoo pilgrims, aliens, turkeys, and stuffing from outer space
Thanksgiving is just weeks away and the dedicated people at The History Channel are getting close to discovering the truth on an all-new episode of South Park titled, “A History Channel Thanksgiving” premiering Wednesday, November 9 at 10:00 p.m. ET/PT on Comedy Central.
After watching a Thanksgiving special on The History Channel, the boys believe that aliens were involved in the original feast. But, questions remain… was the first Thanksgiving haunted? Is alien technology responsible for stuffing? The truth could change Thanksgiving for everyone.
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 5:37 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Wheel...Of...Fortune!
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lol
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 5:57 PM PST up reply actions
BREAKING NEWS -- PENN STATE
Board of Trustees just announced that Paterno is gone as football coach IMMEDIATELY.
Same for president of the university (Graham Spanier).
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Source: PSU trustees news conference, airing now on ESPN News
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LET THE RIOTS BEGIN!
"I’ve been waiting my entire life for a troll of your magnitude.
They call me the Trolls Of Trolls. The internet’s most successful troll. I’ve been aware of your legend, your mystique, but I didn’t dare leave my underground lair to find you.
Now, it is time to dance!"
-TwistNHook
by Redonkulous Bear on Nov 9, 2011 7:28 PM PST up reply actions
I just finished reading the Daily Bear Dump
Only took me 40 minutes!
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
Ugh
I really hope these protestors are all gone by tomorrow—we have a 12:30 basketball rally on Sproul planned!
*Insert something witty here*. Oh, and Stanfurd Sucks.
Just mix basketball and OWS. You’ll finally get to fill Haas and some good social change will occur
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Nov 10, 2011 12:48 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL! this would have been hilarious for the braun era
Occupy Haas! We demand a motion offense!
Deposed (and recently graduated!) #1 Indian
Could you send some of them over to San Francisco on Saturday to occupy AT&T Park?
"I’ll kill you. I’ll crush you. You don’t know who I am. I’ll kick your ass. And don’t ever call me a ding dong again."
lol!
The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 10, 2011 9:43 AM PST up reply actions
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