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So Close! Big Game 2011 Report Card

STANFORD, CA - NOVEMBER 19:  Zach Maynard #15 of the California Golden Bears throws the ball during their game against the Stanford Cardinal at Stanford Stadium on November 19, 2011 in Stanford, California.  (Photo by Ezra Shaw/Getty Images)

Tough game on Saturday. Fun, but tough game. We got a lot of great responses. I wasn't to focus on 2 things that I saw in the Report Card:

1. Reader hardtobecalfan wrote:

hardtobecalfan (not hardtobeacalfan!)

Sorry! There is a reader under the name hardtobeacalfan, so you can understand the confusion. Thanks for your comments!

2. Reader Scuttleduck wrote:

Scuttleduck - I'm a freshman at Cal, and this was my first big game. WOW.

That's a heartwarming comment to me. I remember my first Big Game (back in the latter part of the 1900s). We didn't play anywhere as good as Cal did on Saturday. Hopefully, even in loss, Cal's valiant effort can help build that great relationship with a new generation of Cal students and fans.

After the jump, we have your comments and your grades. You have all been really doing great this season with the report card. Thanks! GO BEARS!

Star-divide

Category
Average Score
Standard Deviation

Pass Offense

.778
.106
Rush Offense
.606
.152
Pass Defense
.616
.149
Rush Defense
.653
.159
Special Teams
.718
.145
Coaching
.713
.145
Overall
.760
.127
Win likelihood vs ASU
.683 (+15.3%)
.160

Berkelium97: Those are some pretty good grades!

Maynard earns his highest score of the year. The low standard deviation for pass offense indicates these high scores were pretty much unanimous.

Elsewhere, every unit scored well and none were below .60.

We're obviously feeling quite a bit better about the ASU game than we did during the summer. ASU's annual faceplant will lift the opponents' spirits, I suppose. Of course, last time we experienced a big boost of confidence prior heading into a game, we got thoroughly embarrassed by UCLA...


Editor's Choice Award:

Wheeler Hall Award for Excellence in Reading Comprehension:

This award goes to everyone! For the first time this season (and for the first time ever, I think) everyone followed directions and gave scores between 0.00 and 1.00!

Next up we have the usual set of awards, the Old Blues and Tedford's Sunshine Pumpers.

I am shocked: SoCal Oski is nowhere to be found among the Old Blues! Meanwhile, I managed to be the second-largest curmudgeon of the week. My scores might have been higher had I filled out the report card immediately following the game. Instead, a couple days' worth of thoughts about FBs and TEs breaking free soured my opinions on the game (I'm still bitter that Trollioliolololiolol waltzed right past Cattouse and a CB when they both bit on a playaction).

On the other side of the spectrum, oskiwow leads the Sunshine Pumpers followed by Hydro. You know it was a good performance if Hydro is pumping the sunshine! (and you know it was a really good performance when SoCal Oski isn't among the Old Blues).

Tedford's Sunshine Pumpers
Net Score, Percentage
1. oskiwow
6.50, 92.9%
2. HydroTech
6.10, 87.1%
3. cjwethers
5.83, 83.3%
4. texashaterforlife
5.70, 81.4%
5. bigdruid
5.54, 79.1%
Old Blues Net Score, Percentage
1. npyoung35
3.70, 52.9%
2. Berkelium97 3.75, 53.6%
3. fuzzywuzzy
3.84, 54.9%
4. Willis Chong
3.90, 55.7%

5. sacman701

4.10, 58.6%


The Voice of Reason Total Deviation
1. mathghamhain
.061
2. 1988goldenbear
.068
3. hardtobecalfan (not hardtobeacalfan!)
.068
4. puresilence .078
5. Koalaballa

.083

Next up we have The Voice of Reason for those whose scores most accurately reflect the group scores.

mathghamhain (any relation to the 11th century Irishman?) continues to place consistently among the most rational scores. hardtobeacalfan tends to appear in the Voice of Reason category, but hardtobecalfan (not hardtobeacalfan!) is there instead. You're not actually hardtobeacalfan, are you? I thought my job here only involved crunching numbers and handing out awards. I never knew reading comprehension would be involved. I need a raise...

Now let's hear your thoughts on what could have been! Did anyone spell Toilolo's named correctly?

Gameday Experience

mathghamhain - "Terrific! On the way to the Big Splash, I bumped into Cal Water Polo's All Time Single Season Goal Scorer. Although an alum, he scored me a beer before game time. Cal destroyed 'furd, at the Big Splash, which was like playing with house money. Couple notes:
-'furd's goalie looked like a rented mule;
-Cal did everything and anything, on one break away I believe the Cal player intentionally tried ""a goalie-head-goal"" but only got the top of the goalie's head;
-the Cal band made two passes outside the pool area, pretty cool to see them marching, only wished they stopped and played a song.

For the Big Game, the weather was fine until Stanford took the lead, then I noticed it was cold and rainy.


Oski4Heisman - "I was wet. I was cold. There were furd fans everywhere. And we don't have the Axe.

And yet, as I exited the stadium, I heard the cheerful Bear fans chanting GO! BEARS! I had visions in my head of Zach Maynard pumping his fists and jumping in the air. And I realized that we had just taken away any hope of caveman luck from getting his hands on the heisman. It was a good night for the Golden Bears."


fuzzywuzzy - "That stadium has no drink holders for my Sailor Jerry's like our wonderful AT&T park does. And I pretty much deserved to be knocked out of the way of their parading band and flippy tree by the uni-bomber looking dude with the riot shield. I just didn't feel like moving off the pathway. Now, if I was a USC fan...

WE BEAT THE SPREAD and almost beat a ranked team on the road...for the first time in 42 years....

GO BEARS!"


crystallogobear - Staying up until 2 am is not my favorite thing in the world...especially when I have to be up before 7 the next day. Is it necessary to play games so late that it makes it extremely inconvenient for people on the East Coast to watch?

texashaterforlife - A good game even for a loss. I was happy Cal did not do any pre-game hooligan chant like last year, hopefully Tedford learned his lesson as well as all the players. Mistakes by Cal kept them from winning but the Furd also had some bad throws and mistakes that kept them from blowing it open. Considering the game conditions and opposing talent, this might be a good loss if I believed in such a thing. More importantly it gives me hope for next year's season and retaking the axe at renovated Memorial Stadium.

Willis Chong - The rain made everything kind of miserable. Of course, it allowed my friends and I to grab good seats one quarter in. Cal section was loud, and it felt like the fans never thought we would be out of it. Certainly, after last year, anything less than a 30 point deficit makes you think we can come back.

1988goldenbear - Was in the Bay Area but at a wedding reception. Would have been at the game otherwise, cold and wet and bummed, but I'm proud of the effort.

RedBear - "For the first few possessions the rain was on and off - every time Stanfurd got the ball it'd start up again. I thought clearly Juju was on our side...what a horrible way to tempt juju.

Glad to see the Cal turnout, and how many of us stayed through the rain and momentum swings. Was surprised LSJUMB wasn't struck down by lightning. Oh, and the parachute ball delivery was awesome."


bigdruid - That field is an embarrassment to the league. They should be ashamed to show it on national TV.

sacman701 - The announcer kept saying the Stanford Axe. It's the Axe. No one calls it the Stanford Axe.

prd74 - "I had to run an errand during the game and watched my stream on my iPhone using 3G. Not bad and definitely better than Gametracker. Thank you PRD!
Wet night games suck. So do errands during the Big Game. "

Pass Offense

MaximillianT - Maynards growing up!

yg - Heroic effort. Can't remember a single dropped pass. Keenan's touchdown catch, Marvin's 2pt conversion, even a Bouza appearance are all memorable.

Ursus Aureus - "Zack Maynard 20/29 279 yards 2 TD
Andrew Luck 20/30 257 yards 2 TD 1 INT (should have been a TAINT!!)
Just sayin....

They dared us to pass and we did... WELL!. Was a little disappointing for a stretch in the 3rd quarter and that cost us the game. Nice to see 'good' Maynard but frankly the Stanford secondary wasn't the greatest unit in the world. Also... YAAY Jackson Bouza!

ResBear - #MaynardForHeisman. Aside from that handoff-pitch fumble on the opening drive, this guy played his heart out...I feel like today was the first time we saw what he was really capable of, even against a good team.

CalFan - EXCELLENT. Wish we didn't abandon it when it was working. People think rain hurts passing games and makes running more important. It doesn't. It makes *changing direction* difficult. So Isi couldn't make his cuts and jukes, but Zachary could go vertical. But in the 2nd Q we tried to pound the ball against a stacked box. Sigh.


texashaterforlife - Never really thought Maynard would have a better passing game than holier than thou Luck, but that is what happened. Good job all around. O-line gave him good protection at least enough for Maynard to scramble. Receivers did a good job too. Did not see any dropped balls that should have been caught. I hope M.Calvin has a successful recovery, At least he got a touchdown this season after fighting all those injuries.

oskiwow - Maynard had his best game as a Golden Bear thus far. No interceptions, made some tough throws, and generally managed the game well. There were some mis-communication problems (e.g., our second offensive play of the game, which resulted in a fumble), but Maynard definitely took a step forward with this game. He outplayed a Heisman Trophy Candidate. 'nuff said.


Rush Offense

Ursus Aureus - Make no mistake about it. Stanford sold out to stop the run and given that they did, it was an ok effort. HOWEVER, leading 10-7, if our offense could have punched a TD in, it would have been a very different game. Horrendous playing conditions though.


bigdruid - "First off, that opening-drive ""pitch to nowhere"" really came back to haunt us. Looks like that was 100% on Maynard, too. Glad he was able to shake it off and play mistake-free ball after that.

Again, their field was terrible and that really seemed to cause problems for Sofele. Also, on his second-half ""fumble"", it looked like a helmet-to-helmet hit - I hope he's OK.

Good job by the OL keeping the penalties to a minimum (it was sweet to see *Stanford* go offsides twice on that last drive). CJ Anderson was a Beast. He really stepped up."

puresilence - Besides that initial bad pitch (and that terrible fumble call) it was decent. Could have been better if the furd actually had a decent field to play on. Good god, you think they could have put some money into a half-decent field.

Willis Chong - "We weren't getting as big as holes as WSU and OSU, but we did get some of it going. Lack of a real bruiser really cost us as if we could have run it in once instead the two FGs we had in the beginning, we would have been in a good position to win. Still, can't fault Isi and CJA on this. They did their job.

I want the refs to show me what they think holding is. And show why they only call it on Cal."


mathghamhain - C.J. had a couple runs were he lost his footing right behind the line of scrimmage, which led to this (both times), "Stanford defense, dominating, that is what I'm talking about." No, the field is slick. Sadly, this male Stanford fan was sitting with a female, so there is a good chance he may procreate.


Pass Defense

1988goldenbear - Decent overall, but it reminded me of the USC game where Barkley had guys open but missed them a few times. And some of Luck's throws we're pretty much perfect.

sacman701 - A little worse than the stats suggest, as Stanford blew a bunch of open plays in the first half. Still, they were able to generate a good pass rush at times and made some plays in coverage. They were too soft on that damn 85 though.

prd74 - Dropped passes were saving us. Screens and passes to flat killed us. Too many wide open receivers, but then again, look who we were playing against.

Ursus Aureus - Decent considering the match-up nightmare that is the Stanford TE's and on a side note.... WHY IS ANDREW LUCK AN ANOINTED FIRST OVERALL PICK?! I don't get it. Sure, he's a good QB, a first-rounder on the same level/little better than Barkley and others, but if an NFL team (I'm looking at you Colts) thinks that Luck is ALL you need to fix your team, then they are in a RUDE awakening. If you are about to go 0-16 in the regular season, chances are you have more serious issues.

texashaterforlife - please for the love of beating Stanford and getting the axe, can we stop the play-action TE rollout pass. It kept Furd's drives alive cuz we would sell out against the run. Only area I was surprised to see the defense not perform like I thought they would. Could have been worse if not for some bad throws by Luck and dropped balls for Stanford.

oskiwow - "If Andrew Luck wasn't having an off night, the game would've been worse. There were a handful of passes that would've gone for TDs had he not overthrown his receiver.

A question for Pendergast: why can't we defend the short roll-out or screen passes? Also, the Furd's gameplan of Stepfan Taylor run on 1st, FB pass on 2nd, and FB rush on 3rd constituted much of the Furd's clock-chewing 7-minute drive in the 4th, and we didn't seem to have any way to stop it."

scuttleduck - If Andrew Luck is the best quarterback prospect since John Elway, then John Elway must have really sucked. I didn't see what NFL talking heads are drooling about.

MaximillianT - I think we contained luck ok


Rush Defense

prd74 - "Pretty stout overall. They were supposed to be all about power running. We matched their power pretty well IMO.

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cjwethers - After that quick Montgomery score, our front 7 repeatedly stuffed Taylor, Wilkerson, Gaffney, and Stewart. Job well done.


slims - SOLID. Look, Stanford knows what they want to do - line up in Jumbo formation for 60 minutes. We made them air the ball out and it slowed their whole offensive cadence down. I'm super proud of our front four for this game.

hardtobecalfan - they couldn't get off the field when they needed to in the 2nd half, especially that long drive that burned like 7 min of clock. but kendricks made some beastly plays behind the line for us.

bigdruid - Mostly solid, except on one critical possession - Luck was having serious trouble early in the game, and Shaw went to the power running game. I think if we stop them on that drive, Stanford is back on their heels and doesn't recover - instead, they smash us in the mouth repeatedly and punch the ball in for a score, giving Stanford (and Luck) a chance to get their mojo back.

mathghamhain - I enjoyed that the AT'T Incredible Play of the Game was a "meh" run were Stepfan became a 1,000 yard rusher. Whatever, Isi totally did that last week....and can't they get real, whole fans, not step-fans?

Special Teams

fuzzywuzzy - KO coverage was better, the punts were good, no nice returns against us - I believe we beat them in that category, and we made a FG and a two-point conversion, which is something I'd thought we never do against a ranked team.

cjwethers - Never thought I'd say this, but we're gonna miss Tavecch the Wreck big-time next year.

hardtobecalfan - i guess manuel is our full time return man now? i thought coverage units did a great job without kapp. and even though the onside failed miserably, tavecchio did a good job with kicking all night considering the horrible conditions.

Jacobs - Great work! I hope you guys can keep that up against asu and whatever bowl we go to!

JABear - Golden. Some issues with coverage, and not getting the onside kick was kind of a bummer, but at this point in the season who cares?

SoCalOski - Solid, if unspectacular play. Where were these guys before? But horrible to see Kapp get injured on that opening kickoff. Feel really bad for the kid.

UncleSam22 - For a sloppy night on a crappy field, it was impressive to see them play as well as they did, especially given their struggles across the year.

Oski4Heisman - FORZA!

Coaching

JustBear - "Tedford had finally prepared his team to play a solid game against good team on the road. This is what the fans wanted to see. We had so many blown out losses that people questioned Tedford's ability to prepare his players, and this game could have been like 50-7 loss, but instead the players fought hard and it actually became a great game.

One thing for Coach P. Please adjust our defense, so that the same guy (TE or FB) will not be wide open every single time he slips our to their right side. Other than that, pretty good defense. Losing McCain and Wilkerson definitely hurt."


ResBear - "I don't think the time we ""wasted"" in the final drive would've made much of a difference. Maybe if we still had three timeouts. Added up to something like 35 seconds, which just means an extra Stanfurd kneel...

WR pass play with Jones was ballsy - feels like we could've blown the game open had that succeeded. "


yg - Second half adjustments just don't seem to be the coaches' strong point. Can't blame endurance anymore; it just doesn't seem like the players improve after halftime.

Ursus Aureus - Clock management at the end was suspect but playcalling was alright (to my untrained eye). Frankly, where Cal has been found lacking the past few years is getting ready for the next game after a game where Cal has (a) won or (b) lost 'admirably' (Oregon 2010). A lot of this falls on the coaches. Their biggest test is getting our team to perform like this in Tempe. If we play like we did against Stanford in Tempe, we should give ASU fits. Will we be ready for it?

slims - Furd played with an edge and spark in playcalling that Cal simply didn't have. Furd was unpredictable and nuanced at times, Cal was predictable. Furd was fired up, Cal was playing catchup. Furd always seemed like they had an extra card to pull, and Cal always seemed stretched to its max. I think the coaching is a big reason for this.

puresilence - Solid all around. Clock management at the end and defense at times (especially during that 7-minute drive) in the fourth quarter left a bit more to be desired, but bouncing back after those turnovers and sticking to the gameplan to get within reach was great. Awesome job by Tedford and the coaching staff.

CalFan - Tedford, you idiot sissy. You think you can beat that team with field goals? The reason we had to try (unsuccessfully) to convert 4th and 5 from midfield in the 2nd half was you lacked the stones to go for it on 4th and goal from the 2 in the 1st half. Inexcusable.

UncleSam 22 - Tedford looked fired up and I like that. I thought that the team came out focused and committed and I was really impressed that the coaches all kept their heads as things feel apart and kept things close.

BrooklynBear - Agree with the topics from TwistnHook on the lack of a hurry up offense hurt the team at the end.

Overall Performance

BrooklynBear - Great effort and without the 1st fumble, the game is there for the winning.

sacman701 - Pretty good for the 3rd week in a row, and for once on the road. If we can play 90% as well against ASU, we should win with room to spare. Going toe to toe with a tough opponent like Stanford should help the team's confidence, and hopefully they will be hungry to close the regular season out with a win and we won't see a repeat of two years ago when they mailed it in against UW after beating Stanford.

nativeson - ps. FUCK STANFURD

c98 - Damn it. Go Bears.

Jacobs - So much better than I thought it would be. Compared to last years game at last furd knew there was a fight.

Willis Chong - "In the end, we needed to get TDs instead of FGs. I know we were ahead for a little bit, but we couldn't stay ahead because we scored 13 instead of 21 in the first half. Still, we stood toe to toe with a team that was supposed to beat us by 16 points and showed that we can be okay. It didn't help us that we had some stupid penalties and obvious Stanfurd cheating was not flagged. (Seriously, how many times did I see our DL get grabbed and couldn't make a play they were in position for? Is it any wonder that those Furd RBs got those super huge holes?)

I'm encouraged, which obviously means DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM."

Koalaballa - "With the season down to just one game left, I have to say that even with all the losses, it sure looks like our team has shown its growth. We've learned, on offense (Maynard's passing), defense (run-stuffing, pass coverage), and even special teams (No blocked XP!). We're playing away from home the whole season and its built character - there really hasn't been a complete (from the first kickoff) blowout all season long. We've been competitive, and although we've ultimately fallen short in five games, our team has played its heart out. I know that old blues have heard this all the time, but next year is looking quite good.

With a win at Arizona state next time (who just lost to a 2-8 Arizona!) we'd be 7-5, and a bowl win would put us at 8-5 in a rebuilding year.

C'mon Bears! No quitting and no dying! ROLL ON!!"

texashaterforlife - This is a loss, a Big Game loss, that I can sleep easy with. 2007's loss had me feeling like cutting myself to see if I was alive, and Last year's pre-game stupidity made me disgusted with my beloved bears (honestly felt as if Stanford deserved to win). I still want the win, badly. The Cal Bears showed heart and never quit. Now if only Stanford gets invited to the Sugar Bowl and can lay some cans of Whup-Ass on those vaunted SEC Defenses, I will be grateful for Stanford's 11-1 season record.

crystallogobear - "A good effort and a gutsy comeback attempt. The talk before the game was that our defense would at best perform similar to Oregon's and give up ~30 points. That turned out to be fairly accurate, though I think that our defense was not playing up to their usual standards, and we should have held them to significantly less. The thought was also that if they scored ~30 points, our offense would not be able to produce enough to keep up with them. That turned out to be also true, but not for the right reasons. Whereas our hopes were resting on the ability of our running backs, who destroyed Oregon St. and Washington St., to make up for the deficiencies of the passing game, it turned out that our passing game kept us in it in spite of the significant failing of the running game.

All in all, I thought we played well, but it took a little too long to figure out how to beat Stanford, and by the time we figured it out, the game ended before we could fully implement it."

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It was a beautiful and courageous effort


As always, go bears!

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Nov 23, 2011 5:37 AM PST reply actions  

Who is that?

"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded

by atomsareenough on Nov 23, 2011 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Carlee — she’s a dance team member

by daveman on Nov 23, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

She

I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.

by BTown85 on Nov 23, 2011 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

TOTAL freakin' fail....

…..she’s also an optimistic skateboarder….

I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.

by BTown85 on Nov 23, 2011 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, thanks.

"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded

by atomsareenough on Nov 23, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

too busy and lazy

to get my comments in…but in a nutshell it was wonderful…as good as any loss I’ve experienced (..that sounds weird). Walking out in the effing tunnel ( and OMFSM, could those jokers down there have done a worse job at crowd management, even in a new stadium…but I digress) the crowd broke out into a spontaneous roll on you bears, which echoed sweetly in the cavern…roll on you bears, extinguish Sparky, get into the Sun Bowl (…I am so there) and roar into a rebuilt Memorial…and finally, once again, eff you JuJu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"It's on the ROOF, oh yeah, one hundred PROOF, oh yeah....."

by TKE Prytanis 79 on Nov 23, 2011 6:51 AM PST reply actions  

Felt the same way.

by fiatlux on Nov 23, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

you continue to shine the light!

"It's on the ROOF, oh yeah, one hundred PROOF, oh yeah....."

by TKE Prytanis 79 on Nov 23, 2011 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Welcome to the family Scuttleduck!
Scuttleduck – I’m a freshman at Cal, and this was my first big game. WOW.

Cal lost the Big Game in my freshman year, too, and in a similarly hard-fought but ultimately disappointing fashion. Fortunately, it got much better the next year in my first Big Game at Memorial Stadium (1986! Kapptastic!!).

Unfortunately, it got much worse for many, many years after that. :-(

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Nov 23, 2011 7:48 AM PST reply actions  

Maybe, maybe not — without knowing the pain of bitter losses you may have a harder time dealing with them as they happen!

n.b. -- This comment does not constitute official chemistry advice.

by sec119 on Nov 23, 2011 8:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Bitter losses like...

42-3 Oregon, 30-3 USC, 42-10 Washington, 52-31 Nevada, 48-14 USC again, any of the last few Oregon State games until this year, 48-14 in last year’s Big Game….

"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded

by atomsareenough on Nov 23, 2011 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Mine was 2007 doh! :(

Technically 06 was but I didn’t go to the game (shame!)

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Nov 23, 2011 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually I don’t remember the 2006. I can’t remember if I went. Fuck! Is this what getting old does to you?

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Nov 23, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

In 2006, we won like 28-17. Kind of closer than it really should have been.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 23, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah, first Big Games

For the older Cal fans, they can be painful or glorious; my brother’s first Big game was – you guessed it – 1982. That got me my first cal t-0shirt with the play on it as a Christmas gift.

If you started at Cal between 2002 – 2007, Big games became hydra-monster; you got used to kicking the Furd’s ass before reality set in.

My first Big Game was in 1999 -2001, and if memory serves correctly, they became progressively worse during my tenure as a student. They were like I imagine the first "get to know your cellies’ day at San Quentin for the child molester would be. We were big-time underdogs, played well enough to actually win the game, we’d get excited, then we’d blow it – either in OT (that really sucked) or in the 4th – by way of incredibly stupid mistakes.

The cops even spent time offering t-shirts to students for not rushing the field in the rare event we would win. We didn’t.

by fuzzywuzzy on Nov 23, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I am so effing OLD!

…1975…don ‘t actually remember who won…70’s and all

"It's on the ROOF, oh yeah, one hundred PROOF, oh yeah....."

by TKE Prytanis 79 on Nov 23, 2011 6:59 PM PST up reply actions  

It was in December, it was in Memorial. I was freezing my bottom off. The biggest thing I remember about that day is SQT scoring a pick six despite losing his shoe. (I think it was SQT…)

Well, that, and USC lost to UCla, which made the Arizona loss a few weeks prior smart all the more.

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by katster on Nov 23, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Freezing? I remember it being unusually warm and windy. Longshore was sailing passes all over the place thanks to the wind.

It felt like one of those games that was never fully in the bag until the clock hit 0:00.

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by Berkelium97 on Nov 23, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, the 2006 big game was surprisingly warm. And it was windy.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 23, 2011 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

This is hilarious subthread because the weather in that game TOTALLY depended on which side of the stadium you were. If you were on the west, ie in the shade, it was FREEZING!!!! We were all dressed like nanook of the north. on the east side I guess it was nice and warm ;-)

That wind was BRUTAL. Here is how the AP opened its story of the game

Although a bitter wind out of Strawberry Canyon was the most dynamic force on the field, California still found more than enough ways to knock off Stanford one more time.

by fiatlux on Nov 23, 2011 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

first Big Game i went to was also 2006

That was a bad game. I was expecting to score a lot, instead Beast Mode gets benched, not much from offense, and Furd WR made a spectacular catch on a pass from Ostrander.

by JustBear on Nov 23, 2011 10:39 PM PST up reply actions  

wait a second, you’re first Big Game was 2006??? I honestly would have thought you were 10+ years older than that. I realize that sounds like a dig, it’s not. You just look very stately.

by fiatlux on Nov 23, 2011 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha, royrules is a young’un

"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded

by atomsareenough on Nov 23, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes I do look much older than I am. One of the side effects of being too fat :p

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Nov 23, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm sorry....

…..is there a picture roster somewhere I’ve not heard of????

I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.

by BTown85 on Nov 23, 2011 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

You mean the pictures associated with our usernames aren’t supposed to be pictures of ourselves?

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by Berkelium97 on Nov 23, 2011 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Class of 2013?

Yes, I will never forget 2009.

by GeoFreak on Nov 23, 2011 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

'01

With furd fans carrying roses around the stadium pre-game, I made my way to palo alto to watch the 0-9 Bears sacrifice themselves at Holmoe’s altar. It got a bit better since then.

by Oski4Heisman on Nov 23, 2011 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought I might have graded the Bears higher than everyone else, but I didn’t think it was by that much!

I think it’s also interesting to see that the standard deviations across all the categories are much higher than in previous record cards.

by HydroTech on Nov 23, 2011 10:39 AM PST reply actions  

Crap
CalFan – Tedford, you idiot sissy. You think you can beat that team with field goals? The reason we had to try (unsuccessfully) to convert 4th and 5 from midfield in the 2nd half was you lacked the stones to go for it on 4th and goal from the 2 in the 1st half. Inexcusable.

That’s crap. Considering it was early in the game, perhaps he had faith/confidence in our defense to hold them back.

by freshfunk on Nov 23, 2011 11:09 AM PST reply actions  

Well, I definitely, definitely think we should have gone for it on 4th and goal from the 2, but I don’t think Tedford is an “idiot sissy” for taking the points.

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by atomsareenough on Nov 23, 2011 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

“Idiot sissy” was unnecessarily harsh – I was in a bit of a mood when I wrote that. But I maintain that going for it was obviously the correct call there.

The idea of having “faith/confidence in the defense” never made sense to me in this argument. Hopefully, a coach always has faith and confidence in his defense. And his offense. And his special teams. That’s not the issue; the issue is putting each of those squads in the best position for success. I would have had faith and confidence in our offense to get the TD; if that failed, I would have had faith and confidence for the defense to be even more likely to stop a Stanfurd drive starting from the 2 than one starting from the 30 (or so) after a kickoff. I would have faith and confidence in the defense to win the field position battle and keep the offense in a position to score; to maybe get an easy pick-6 or a safety. Because good things happen for the defense when the offense is pinned back like that.

That’s the paradox of the “faith/confidence in the defense” argument: if the coach really had that faith and confidence, he should count on it to excel even if going for it on 4th down fails.

There’s a similar paradox if you look at faith/confidence in the offense. If Tedford doesn’t have that confidence, he shouldn’t expect we’re going to get back to the 2 any time soon. If he does have it, shouldn’t he have the confidence in our offense to score when it’s in prime position to do so? Are you telling me we can’t score a TD around 50% of the time on 4th and 2?

The only logically consistent position is that Tedford DIDN’T have faith in his offense to get back into the red zone (even if they went for it, failed, the defense held ‘furd to a 3-and-out, and a punt started the next drive from the 50 or so), but DID have confidence to pitch a shutout the rest of the way. But that’s silly – all but the rarest, most elite defense get scored on at least a little bit; the Luck-powered offense scores a lot on even very good defenses. Expecting to win the game with 10 or 13 points is foolish.

Sing glorious, victorious!

by Calfan on Nov 23, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

you got to stop writing stuff like this
The only logically consistent position

Because it’s ridiculous, clearly on its face, that Tedford would expect the scoring would end there.

I would have preferred we’d gone for it too for the reasons people who prefer that prefer that. But we didn’t. We can disagree with Tedford’s decisions without ascribing ridiculous motivations behind them.

by fiatlux on Nov 23, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

That was part of my point

I’m wasn’t saying that’s what Tedford actually believed. I’m saying that’s the only consistent position if using the “faith/confidence in the defense” argument – which emphasizes how that’s not a useful way to evaluate whether to go for it or not.

Sing glorious, victorious!

by Calfan on Nov 23, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

either you didn’t make that point very well or I didn’t get it very well… or both ;-)

by fiatlux on Nov 23, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know who was making that argument though.

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by atomsareenough on Nov 23, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

It's much simpler than that

The problem with your “logical” argument is that it assumes all confidence is equal which is not.

The logical argument is between 2 choices:
1) Getting the 3 points (high % confidence).
2) Getting the TD (much lower % of confidence than #1).

Furthermore, there are other probabilities taken into account that have been mentioned such as:
a) The defense can keep them from scoring or limit their scoring to FGs (?? % confidence).
b) The game will be lost by the marginal point difference of getting the TD over the FG (low confidence, highly unpredictable).

So, to keep it simple: Not all confidences are equal. So it’s silly to equate confidence in defense holding them vs confidence in offense scoring a TD on 4th down.

With respect to a), who knows? Based on the feel of the game at the time, their offense was not clicking. With respect to b), there was still so much football to be played I think it would be getting ahead of one’s self to think this way.

by freshfunk on Nov 23, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Or in much simpler terms

Hindsight is 20/20.
JT probably had MORE confidence in his defense than his offense. (Defensing holding them v Offense scoring on 4th down in the redzone.)

by freshfunk on Nov 23, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

If you actually want to weigh all those factors and consider the full complexity, a Bellman equation analysis says: go for it. Without the benefit of hindsight or anything else.

It’s frustrating enough when Tedford makes the risk-averse, lower expected value call against an ordinary team. But when you’re playing a team that’s better, and expected to win, you need to try to increase variance, not lower it. Conservative choices lead to expected outcomes: in this case, a ’furd victory.

Sing glorious, victorious!

by Calfan on Nov 23, 2011 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I am with you 100%, it’s just that I thought “idiot sissy” was over-the-top.

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by atomsareenough on Nov 23, 2011 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

It was definitely over the top

As I said, I was out of sorts when I wrote that. Needed to vent.

Sing glorious, victorious!

by Calfan on Nov 23, 2011 10:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm with Calfan

Although I wouldn’t have used the phrase ‘idiot sissy’, I thought it was classic conservatism flying in the face of logic. yes, logic!

But I hate arguing this shit about going for it and 2-pt conversions because people get really mean trying to justify their own logic. Or at least they were mean to me last time I got into it.

So I just want to say yes we should have gone for it both times, most especially 4th and goal at the 2.

Stand the whole game, stay to the end, and start yelling while they're still in the huddle. GO BEARS

by JerrottWillard45 on Nov 23, 2011 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Im sorry people were mean to you when you were arguing your poimt

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by TwistNHook on Nov 23, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

and the real bummer on that is the play before, Maynard was SOOOO close to getting the TD pass to Jones. Yeah, it was also almost INTed but had Maynard just put the ball to the left it would have been an easy TD. It was a great call just not quite executed well enough.

by fiatlux on Nov 23, 2011 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I loved their effort, and the score wasn’t nearly as bad as what I thought it’d be, and for that I’m proud to be a Cal fan.

However…I did think they were as talented in every area except the lines and experience (especially at QB), and I think the coaches were correcting for the TE/FB flat passes…it’s just that the secondary and LB’s needed to read the play correctly – and FAST – and they missed it a few times.

Since they didn’t execute well enough, I gave lower scores than I normally do, since if there is any game they need to play at their absolute best, this is it. With Owusu out and Luck giving us some chances, it’s too bad we couldn’t exploit that.

That being said, the 2011 Furd-herding furbils are a tough team to win against, and I think they beat most of the teams in the country by a greater margin.

by fuzzywuzzy on Nov 23, 2011 11:35 AM PST reply actions  

Win likelihood vs ASU
.683 (+15.3%)
.160

Well there goes winning against ASU.

The odds of Cal winning are inversely proportional to the odds of Cal winning.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 23, 2011 12:08 PM PST reply actions  

So I just went back and watched the game...

and the officiating was bad as it was in person…

In regards to the BS “late hit” they called when Luck slid… I brought up a play that happened in the first quarter and being able to see it again it angered me more. Maynard threw to Allen for a completion for about 15 yards. The Furd player TOTALLY (no ambiguity here) hit him high and in the head. No call. Now, I have to say in general, I am not a big fan of that particular rule, but this one was clear. And it wasn’t like Keenan was going down so you could understand the defender was going to hit him in the numbers but got him in the head through no fault of his own. It was just a bullshit non call, particularly given the call later because of the hit on Luck.

Of note, again, was the alleged block in the back on Luck when he threw his INT… It was awesome to have the announcers call out the refs on that… but when they didn’t call, and just drives me nuts because it’s such a demonstration of ASSHOLE officials who think people come to see them, was THE TOTAL BS sideline interference call on the same play (which by the way is incorrectly accounted for in the official stats). Had the “block in the back no been called” that total utter bullshit call would have negated the TD.

O.K., got that off my chest (for now).

by fiatlux on Nov 23, 2011 1:22 PM PST reply actions  

The sideline interference call

was totally suspect IMO considering it was totally away from the play and had no effect whatsoever. In combination with the other bad calls it makes the refs look like they have a separate agenda.

by freshfunk on Nov 23, 2011 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

"Disgraceful!"

Just watched CAL report… saw highlights accompanied by Starkey’s calls…

Disgraceful is how Starkey described the officiating. That alone makes him OK in my book (he was already OK).

by fiatlux on Nov 23, 2011 5:28 PM PST reply actions  

So, it basically made no difference in your book?

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by TwistNHook on Nov 23, 2011 6:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey

where is my soul brother, FireStarkey when I need him?

"It's on the ROOF, oh yeah, one hundred PROOF, oh yeah....."

by TKE Prytanis 79 on Nov 23, 2011 7:00 PM PST up reply actions  

One shining day...

I was the voice of reason~ or is this akin to be insane in an insane asylum?

And yes, I am related to that Irish king, but we all are or at least one can make such a claim every March 17.

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