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Cal 70, Georgia 46: Fourth Blowout Win, Bring On Missouri

Harper Kamp: Perfect from the field, perfectly framed on camera.  Also, only one man dares to give UGA the raspberry: Brandon Smith

With each 20+ point win it becomes harder and harder to say something new about this team. Four times Cal has scored 70 points or more and four times Cal has held their opponent to 56 points or less.  What may have changed today was the quality of opponent. Georgia isn't likely to set the world on fire this season, but they are almost certainly a step up from Austin Peay and George Washington. But that didn't stop the Bears from notching their 2nd biggest margin of victory on the season.

For 15 minutes it appeared that Cal was going to be tested by the Bulldogs. The Bears struggled just a bit offensively out of the gates, missing a number of shots inside that would typically fall. Meanwhile Georgia was doing a good job moving through screens and forcing switches around the perimeter, and it resulted in a number of open looks outside.  Georgia hit 4 threes early to take slim leads on three different occasions. They would not make another three the rest of the game.

To a certain extent the 24 point final margin might have been deceptive. Georgia had a horrible shooting night, and I don't think we can give Cal all of the credit for that. There were plenty of jumpers and layups inside that the Bulldogs probably should have hit on, and that pushed the game into blowout territory that much faster. But that doesn't change the basic story line - Cal was the superior team 

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The four factors to winning - and Cal won each factor. Cal didn't have a huge rebounding or turnover advantage, but when a team can shoot and draw fouls as well as the Bears you really don't need a ton of help from the other two categories. This team should almost always rebound and take care of the ball well enough to support their shooting from the field and from the line

There aren't many nits to pick about a 24 point win. For the 2nd game in a row Allen Crabbe wasn't a major factor. Conventional wisdom said that Cal needs Crabbe to get his shots and points to win games. But I think it's becoming more clear that this team has 7 capable play-makers on offense. If defenses focus on taking away Crabbe (or any other Cal player, for that matter) the other four players on the court are going to be able to punish them for that.  This is a very very hard team to slow down.

Justin Cobbs had a few careless, unforced turnovers. But he also led the team in assists and steals, more than making up for those mistakes. Richard Solomon had a dismal game finishing shots, but he was again active on the boards and defensively, and most importantly he went strong to the basket on multiple occasions.  He's already drawing fouls, and the shots will eventually start falling.

As for positives, our senior leaders jumped out. Jorge and Harper were the two players making things happen during the sluggish start, and they were their usual, steady selves. With the depth this team has (relatively to last year) the Bears increasingly don't need a superlative individual showing from one player. It's nice to 'only' get 16 points from our leading scorer and still win going away.

We also likely learned what the rotation will be most of the time. Monty clearly felt like Georgia posed a major threat, and as a result our 8th and 9th men (Emerson Murray and Bak Bak) didn't see the floor until the game was well in hand in the 2nd half.  While a seven man rotation sounds a little light, it's probably enough because I think Monty trusts each of those seven players to play 20-30 minutes at least.

I wasn't expecting a fourth blowout win, and I'm really not expecting a fifth tomorrow. Missouri looked excellent in dispatching a solid Notre Dame squad, and they will likely present some match-up issues for the Bears. But if Cal could pick up the win it would be an excellent resume win.  And considering the state of the Pac-12 the Bears need as many of those as they can get. We'll have more on the Tigers tomorrow. For now, let's enjoy another easy win. Go Bears!

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Player of the game?
Harper Kamp: 16 points, perfect from the field
103 votes
Jorge Gutierrez: 14 points, 7 rebounds
80 votes
David Kravish: 9 rebounds, 3 blocks
41 votes

224 votes | Poll has closed

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What’s nice about this year is that the team is good/deep enough that he won’t need to play 35+ minutes most nights. He shouldn’t be exhausted by the end of the year.

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by norcalnick on Nov 21, 2011 10:43 PM PST up reply actions  

He hasn't played more than 28 minutes yet this year

This should help A LOT against the Missouris and Washingtons of the world.

by Reef on Nov 21, 2011 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Please...

You can’t use that average as an indicator. Your sample size includes UCI, Austin Peay, GW, and a Georgia team that fell apart in the 2nd half.

As Jeff Faraudo astutely points out, Monty used only a 7-man rotation when it counted. That’s not a good sign, and quite to the contrary to NorCalNick’s point above (though I otherwise admire the guy).

No, to the contrary, I continue to be worried about depth, the rotation, and guys burning out. You know how lucky we are that Kravish has been able to come in and provide such a positive spark? And it’s great that we now have Cobbs to help Smith and Jorge. But those are the only two subs we saw last night.

Watch tonight against a strong Missouri squad to see if Emerson comes in as a 4th ball handler, if Powers comes in to give Crabbe a spell, or if either Bak or Thurman come in as a 4th post. And if they do, are they able to be productive with their minutes? Or is it more like, “Oh shit – get Jorge back in there!” ?

by concordtom on Nov 22, 2011 7:57 AM PST up reply actions  

the point is...

….if we can limit starters minutes in easier spots they will be fresher in tougher spots. Last year Jorge played 30+ against the likes of Southern Miss, Cal Poly, and Hartford. After Franklin left it got worse, and he didn’t play less than 30 the rest of the year, and often close to max minutes. (okay, I only looked at games until halfway through the Pac season before I got bored, but I’m confident this is a true statement)

This year we are, as norcalnick points out (1) better and (2) deeper. Peay and Georgia are teams with legit NCAA aspirations, and will have better seasons than a lot of Pac-12 teams. We blew them out and we should be able to do that a reasonable number of times in conference. On the depth side, we obviously don’t have waves of good guards coming off the bench, but having Cobbs all year providing quality minutes and taking odometer minutes off of Smitty, Allen, and Jorge is important.

Yes, Monty’s “real rotation” is short, and there will be games when those 7 guys will be asked to play big minutes. But if they’re fresher going into those games and can be rested a little after, it should be a much better season overall.

by Reef on Nov 22, 2011 9:21 AM PST up reply actions  

okay

Point duly noted. We have a real rotation of 7, instead of last year’s 6. And 5 out of those 7 are improved versions of themselves over last year, while the other 2 coming in Cobbs/Kravish) are playing well.

It IS a step in the right direction, but not quite as deep as one would like. The women’s team has a great 10 deep. There will be games where we are clearly not deep enough. Hopefully that’s not tonight against a Missouri team that starts 4 guards. Man, is this going to be a track meet? Can’t wait!

by concordtom on Nov 22, 2011 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, I still have some hope that eventually, at some point in the season, Murray and some combination of Thurman and Bak Bak will be able to come in earlier in games and at least hold the fort a little to allow our starters to get a blow.

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by atomsareenough on Nov 22, 2011 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

10 deep is too deep, IMO-- normally a sign of a bad team or a bad coach

Short of hockey-like line-change substitutions where guys tend to be on the floor in units, it’s very hard for that many guys to develop the communication skill needed to be effective.

I’ve seen it done, but rarely with much effectiveness. I’d hesitate to go above 9 in a rotation unless I had an amazing roster or was still trying to figure out who was good.

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by PaulThomas on Nov 22, 2011 5:12 PM PST up reply actions  

This is basically my take. That one extra guy that takes the rotation from 6 to 7 makes a huge difference, because that last guy is Cobbs.

Last year our three guards/wings were Smith, Jorge and Crabbe . . . and that’s it. Emerson came in when he had too but he wasn’t really ready. Nigel Carter had some cameos, and Jeff Powers stepped in when Crabbe was out, but basically there were no backups to the three starters.

Just by adding Cobbs it’s a HUGE step up in depth. Ideally another guy (Murray or Powers) steps up, but we can get by OK with what we have now, I think.

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by norcalnick on Nov 22, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Ideally, Rossi's gut stops hurting at some point

No idea what the probabilities on that are.

"We don't want our people to be preoccupied with seminude, crazy men jumping up and down who are chasing an inflated object," said Sheik Mohamed Osman Arus, head of operations for the Hizbul Islam insurgent group.

by PaulThomas on Nov 22, 2011 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I started to type something like this, walked away for a few minutes, and saw that you had written what I wanted to say (excepting the many years of watching college basketball part). We need to make it player of the game, non-Jorge division.

by Ursa Major on Nov 21, 2011 10:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I will be saying it a lot, but...

Jorge is my favorite basketball player. Ever.

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by atomsareenough on Nov 21, 2011 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s amazing to see how much he has transformed.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Nov 22, 2011 1:56 AM PST up reply actions  

honestly I can’t really remember specific moments of his play as a freshman, but I do remember not wanting him to dribble

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Nov 22, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

if he can't dribble he's gonna be in a world of trouble against mizzou's little guards

they are all talented and still have mike anderson’s swarming D. they were nasty against N.D. last night

can't we just pave over kansas?

by mizzutgr on Nov 22, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

They are talking about a few years ago when jorge first entered the Cal program. He has made major strides since then.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 22, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Freshman Jorge (3 years ago) was the one who made you cringe when he dribbled. Mind you, he didn’t lose his handle a lot or anything, but it sure looked like it could happen at any moment. Jorge the senior is a whole different story. Bob Knight was saying last night what a luxury it was that Cal could play such a good ball handler as Jorge at the off-guard position and not make him have to run the point. That really speaks volumes about how much work Jorge has put into his game… and I’m not just talking about his ball handling, but EVERYTHING. He’s always been an awesome, gritty, in-your-face defender, always always hustling… but now he can dribble, he can shoot, he can pass, he’s the complete package, and it’s all come together before our eyes due to his hard work.

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by atomsareenough on Nov 22, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I missed the Mizzou game, but it sounds like they’re talented in the backcourt. Knight seemed to think Cal might have the edge, but did anybody else see the game and care to predict?

by slaphancock on Nov 22, 2011 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, the Mizzou guards aren’t big, but they’re awfully quick and athletic and seemed to be knocking down all sorts of shots, driving the lane, creating havoc all around. Notre Dame looked slow, but they’re supposed to be a good shooting team, and Mizzou’s stifling perimiter defense made it really tough to get any good shots off from behind the arc.

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by atomsareenough on Nov 22, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Hard to Argue with This

Kamp was excellent, but this is Jorge’s team and it was again Jorge’s game.

I can’t see how anyone would have thought Kamp was more dominant in this game.

Kamp played really well and his impact was considerable. It ain’t as great as Jorge’s, however.

No one replaces Jorge.

by Jimes-boy on Nov 22, 2011 6:42 AM PST up reply actions  

But, Jimes...

…what about Smith?
and, yes, it was nice that we signed that combo guard from Bakersfield.

by concordtom on Nov 22, 2011 7:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice Win

As the author mentions, I was kind of disappointed in Richard Soloman. The talent gap between mid-major and power conferences is more pronounced among big men, meaning this was Soloman’s first challenge against comparable talent, and he struggled to finish inside and in traffic. Obviously, it is far too early to make any real declarations, but I’m hoping this improves throughout the season as he gets more comfortable playing against people his size, adjusts to the contact, and gains experience and comfort.

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by chowder on Nov 21, 2011 10:51 PM PST reply actions  

agreed

I agree with everything you said. Solomon needs to finish stronger, and that will come with age and time in the weight room, but he needs to step his game up quickly if we are going to make a run at a conference title. He doesn’t have that mean streak that you love to see in big men (we miss you MSF). Big men need to be aggressors, they have to battle inside and make their presence felt on every play even the ones they dont see the ball. I have yet to see Solomon play with the intensity and passion I’d like to see

by The Red Mamba on Nov 22, 2011 1:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I just had a vision of what ails Richard. He bends over under the glass like a little kid, and then unfurls himself, unravels himself, in a process that takes forever. It allows the tall defenders to just stand there with their hands straight up and swat his shit.

If he wouldn’t bend at the waist in an effort to ultimately jump REALLY high (no doubt in an effort to dunk the ball, so he can pose – “kidding!”), he’d actually be quicker to the glass.

Catch and keep the ball up high, Richard. Hold the medicine ball straight up high over your head and hop around the court as if you were on a pogo stick for 40 minutes. Tap the glass with the ball as you bounce up each time. Repeat for 3 seasons!

by concordtom on Nov 22, 2011 8:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Solomon

He is rough and needs to get better, but off the boards and defensively he already is not half bad.

by Jimes-boy on Nov 22, 2011 6:44 AM PST reply actions  

I think he had an off game last night. He seems to get down on himself when he makes mistakes. I’m expecting him to turn things around tonight.

by slaphancock on Nov 22, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Based on my very limited knowledge of the college basketball landscape out there, I would rate this as a very strong win for our kids. But I wonder, is that just my own ignorance, or should this be universally considered as a quality win? In other words, does Georgia rate as a strong opponent, or as a team on the decline?

In either case, the manner in which Jorge & the guys just toyed with the dogs is really impressive. If there are still some unbelievers out there, they need a straight up reality check.

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by SoCal Oski on Nov 22, 2011 9:19 AM PST reply actions  

hard to say right now

Losing Thompkins and Leslie was bad for them, but they still have a good and experienced backcourt, plus Kentavious looks legit. Best guess is they’ll compete in the SEC and be a bubble tourney team in March. It was a decent win, and indicates we are what we thought we were: a very solid team that does what it’s supposed to do. Tonight will be a better indication of whether we are elite.

by Reef on Nov 22, 2011 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed, Go Bears!

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by Cugel on Nov 22, 2011 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

overrating georgia

I think cal fans are overrating georgia a lot. just because they are a bigger school than austin peay and george washington doesn’t mean they’re better. All three are likely to have about equal seasons and are probable NIT teams. Austin Peay will probably make the NCAAs because they are favored in their league, but regardless I think those three teams are about equal. Decent, but not really good. Georgia lost its two best players from last season and is in rebuilding mode. Austin Peay was even ranked ahead of Georgia in yahoo’s preseason rankings (take that for what you will). Regardless Missouri is the first really good team we will play and that will be a better measuring stick.

I think Cal is also a very good team, but people need to relax a bit because Georgia is not a team expected to make the tournament.

by longpasses on Nov 22, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Kenpom has Georgia #71 nationally

….better than seven Pac-12 teams. I think that’s about right. And I think there is some significance in going on the road (albeit a neutral site) for the first time and blowing a team like that out of the building.

He has Missouri #12, UNLV #15, and SDSU #61, and each of them will (effectively) have home court advantage over us, so there will be opportunities pre-conference to determine where we stand nationally, and for the team to build a March resume.

by Reef on Nov 22, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Jorge and defense

What I love about this team so far is that they seem to have picked up Jorge’s aggressive defensive mindset. It’s like he taught them all how to play defense. There were times last night when it looked like 5 Jorges on the floor, badgering the ball-handler and getting into passing lanes.

by slaphancock on Nov 22, 2011 1:05 PM PST reply actions  

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