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Cal 72, Austin Peay 55: Bears Pass Another Pre-Test

(Ed - 11:30: Glorious charts of victory embedded below the jump!)

If we're being honest, Austin Peay (and George Washington, and UC Irvine) are teams that Cal should beat easily.  But 'should' and 'did' are different words, so full credit to Monty and the Bears for quickly putting away another overmatched opponent.  And considering the opposition, how Cal has won is more impressive than the fact that they won.  For the 3rd straight game the Bears put on a first half clinic and essentially played a full 20 minutes of garbage time.  True, this team is yet to be tested, but they look like an elite offensive team, and they look much better on defense than last year.

Admittedly, the game moved quickly into blowout territory because Austin Peay compounded their problems with bad turnovers and horrible shooting.  Cal's defense was plenty good, but it wasn't 17.2%-field-goal-percentage good.  The Governor's best player quickly picked up two fouls, and they managed just five field goals and went 0-9 from behind the arc, hastening their own demise.

But Austin Peay's problems didn't diminish what Cal did on offense in the first half.  The Bears shot 60% from the floor and that was despite their best shooter having an uncharacteristic off-night.  Harper Kamp, Richard Solomon and David Kravish all had a series of easy looks inside, Jorge Gutierrez and Brandon Smith penetrated with relative ease and dominated in transition, and Crabbe was open with good looks outside throughout.  Cal led 40-13 and it could have been worse.

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And so there were 20 minutes of  . . . well, garbage time seems like an exaggeration.  But it certainly didn't feel like the first half.  Sure, Austin Peay made a couple of mini runs, and Monty called a few obligatory timeouts to chew out the guys.  And we'll probably see some post-game quotes about effort and intensity.  And he's right.  But I'm not going to worry too much when Jeff Powers, Bak Bak and Emerson Murray are unable to maintain a huge lead when they're playing a mid-major pre-season conference favorite.

 

I think the reality is that Monty has his rotation pretty set.  Three bigs and four guards/wings.  Kamp, Solomon and Kravish inside, Gutierrez, Crabbe, Smith and Cobbs outside.  Based on everything we know and everything we see, that's a rotation that can absolutely win the conference.  If Bak can quickly make up for the time he missed in the Sudan, or if Emerson Murray polishes his jump shot, then that's great.  But most teams can get by with seven players that you trust on both ends of the court.

Of course, the reason I can guess that there will be a main rotation of seven players is because David Kravish continues to impress.  The vast majority of freshmen are often defined by what they can't do, or by their mistakes.  Right now, Kravish isn't making mistakes.  6-7 from the floor?  Just one turnover?  One foul in 23 minutes?  And it's not like he's getting by just by not hurting the team when he's on the floor.  He's making an obvious positive impact on both ends.

He's done enough that some might suggest that he start ahead of Richard Solomon.  I think that's premature for a number of reasons.  Solomon is the better rebounder and he'll be able to do things with his athleticism that Kravish can't right now.  But it's not really an issue because they'll both be getting extensive playing time.

 

Like the headlines said, this was the third of three pre-tests.  I'd give Cal an A for each one.  But the first real test of the season begins Monday in Kansas City.  Georgia, then Missouri or Notre Dame.  Let's meet back next Tuesday night to see where our Bears stand.

Poll
Player of the game?
Jorge Gutierrez - 14 points, his usual self on defense.
109 votes
David Kravish - 12 points, only missed 1 shot.
72 votes
Harper Kamp - almost a double double, 5-7 from the field.
24 votes

205 votes | Poll has closed

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norcalnick - thanks for the quick recap!

didn’t get a chance to watch — can you (or someone else) comment on how Cobbs looked? any chance he pushes Smith for the starting job?

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by boomtho on Nov 15, 2011 9:47 PM PST reply actions  

On the post-game show they mentioned it was unlikely to happen – not because Cobbs isn’t good enough to start – but they like that Smith gives them stability as a starting PG and Cobbs is a game changer off the bench – and he can really push the tempo and score off the bench.

by LeonPowe on Nov 15, 2011 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks LP!

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by boomtho on Nov 15, 2011 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

In my opinion

Cobbs is also a bit more versatile, his ability to sub for Smith, Gut or Crabbe giving him greater value off the bench compared to Smith.

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by chowder on Nov 15, 2011 10:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Right. Plus he’s got a chest tat, so he’s straight thuggin and posing, so that gets a seat on Monty’s bench

/seeifanyonetakesthebait

by LeonPowe on Nov 15, 2011 10:45 PM PST up reply actions  

did somebody mention posing???

by concordtom on Nov 15, 2011 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

i’m game.

how dare you question monty’s gene hackman-like no nonsense coaching style? we just took a vote and the results are in. coach stays. /smuglook

by ondal on Nov 15, 2011 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

You and your old school loving ways. I’m sure you’d love it if all we wore were Chuck Taylors and ran a weave offense leading to set shots.

/slipperyslope

by LeonPowe on Nov 15, 2011 11:42 PM PST up reply actions  

“…Today, Coach Mike Montgomery announced that all players would be getting mandatory buzz cuts…”

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by Kodiak on Nov 16, 2011 8:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Ultimately, all that really matters is minutes played anyways, rather than who actually starts the game. Cobbs is eventually going to start over Smith, though I have no idea when (maybe not even this year), but I think he’ll start getting more minutes than Smith sooner rather than later.

by Missing Barry on Nov 16, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Cobbs didn’t get as much time on the floor as you might expect because he rolled an ankle in the first half (He came back later and looked fine).

It wasn’t a flashy performance – more like a steady Brandon Smith performance, actually. 4 assists and 0 turnovers, made a couple shots and never forced anything.

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by norcalnick on Nov 15, 2011 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks!

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by boomtho on Nov 15, 2011 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Given how many other Pac12 teams, such as ASU and UCLA, are struggling against early season opponents, I think there is value in congratulating the team for winning the games you should win.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 15, 2011 9:48 PM PST reply actions  

but we should have won 105 – 20

by fiatlux on Nov 15, 2011 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

THAT'S funny !

Yeah, is UCLA lulling the rest of the Pac into submission by losing all their pre-season games? Or is Reeves Nelson THE ENTIRE TEAM?

I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.

by BTown85 on Nov 16, 2011 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

one more question

How is Kravish scoring? Kind of a dumb question but… is it jump shots, putbacks, off of dives / flashes…?

thanks! :D

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by boomtho on Nov 15, 2011 9:53 PM PST reply actions  

From the little I saw – he’s got a nice mid range jumper and is smart with offensive rebounds and cleaning up around the basket.

by LeonPowe on Nov 15, 2011 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup, Kravish is doing quite nicely. Can’t really complain when he goes 6/7 and they’re not all easy layups.

by FromCtoShining(Blue)C on Nov 15, 2011 10:43 PM PST up reply actions  

he hit a couple open shots from around the free throw line after a guard penetrated and drew his defender away. Also had a couple putbacks around the rim if i remember correctly

by ucsdgoldenbear on Nov 15, 2011 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

is it jump shots, putbacks, off of dives / flashes…?

The answer is yes. He hit a midrange jumper after being fed the ball in the mid-post area. Also, freed himself with one dribble then step and up with a jumper. Hit a short-range push shot after being fed in the low post off a nice dive. Also, got a layup when he moved without the ball off a guard’s back screen. The rest were putbacks around the hoop. He has a nice touch, great feet, and doesn’t panic when he gets the ball.

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by Kodiak on Nov 16, 2011 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

UCLA down 16 to MTSU. 6:31 left in the second.

by LeonPowe on Nov 15, 2011 9:55 PM PST reply actions  

Wow, 86-66 final, UCLA loses.

by Ursa Major on Nov 15, 2011 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course they’ll recover in time to beat us.

by LeonPowe on Nov 15, 2011 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly

I’d be a thousand times angrier if we lost to this UCLA team than the one in the Rose Bowl three weeks ago.

by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 15, 2011 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Really?

I haven’t yet watched Ucla’s basketball team. But having seen Ucla’s football team, this seems rather surprising.

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by Ohio Bear on Nov 16, 2011 4:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Um, no. They’d be equally embarrassing.

Being an Old Blue means embracing the "meh".

by SoCal Oski on Nov 16, 2011 7:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I wish this wasn’t true.

by Ursa Major on Nov 15, 2011 10:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Head will roll at BN

They call the Neuheisel supporters Neubs. I wonder what they’ll call the Howland supporters… Anyone have any suggestions?

by FromCtoShining(Blue)C on Nov 15, 2011 10:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Howl

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by TwistNHook on Nov 15, 2011 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss Dorrellistas

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by norcalnick on Nov 15, 2011 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Rec’d

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by norcalnick on Nov 15, 2011 11:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I vote for this one!

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Nov 15, 2011 11:51 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

What an embarrassment

The rest of the conference needs to step up now to atone for these atrocities.

by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 15, 2011 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Headline at BN

MTSU Steamrolls UCLA’s Rotting Carcass of a Program: 86-66

Gotta love how they’re handling all of this…

So we already have the desert debacle, mountain meltdown
whats next? the Tropical trouncing?

by FromCtoShining(Blue)C on Nov 15, 2011 10:16 PM PST reply actions  

Yup, they're definitely not overreacting

About Howland not switching to zone:

that’s not stubborn. That’s dementia. Dude had no respect for our school.
It’s all lip service. Otherwise, he’d use every strategy in the book to help our squad. Dude is an arrogant loser of the first order.

by FromCtoShining(Blue)C on Nov 15, 2011 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

You wouldn’t be angry if we lost to Austin Peay by 20 tonight?

by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 15, 2011 10:24 PM PST up reply actions  

If we lost to Austin Peay by 20 tonight, I’d be angrily occupying Sproul Plaza to protest the injustice of the Montgomery system!

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by TwistNHook on Nov 15, 2011 10:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I would be angry but

I wouldn’t say that Monty has no respect for our school. I don’t think people ever questioned Tedford’s loyalty to Cal after the UCLA debacle a few weeks ago and even if they did, they certainly didn’t do so in volumes that you see over at BN

by FromCtoShining(Blue)C on Nov 15, 2011 10:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Tedford has never had a defeat as embarrassing as some of the non-conference stinkers Howland has put up lately.

by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 15, 2011 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

ucla this year was pretty frickin close

by fiatlux on Nov 15, 2011 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

That game sucked. But it wasn’t embarrassing. One average Pac-12 team beating our average football team? Easily within the realm of possibility.

No, if Cal had lost to someone like San Jose State by 20 at home, it’d be about the same as these OOC losses UCLA is experiencing.

by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 15, 2011 10:57 PM PST up reply actions  

are you attempting to devil’s advocate-troll up some comments? do not know if you are actually attempting to defend the commenters at BN

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by GoldBlooded on Nov 15, 2011 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Just saying it makes sense that they would act the way they did after a loss as bad as that.

by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 15, 2011 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

That game sucked. But it wasn’t embarrassing.

Oh, yes it was, Avi. Yes it was. Not that we lost, but how we lost.

It was embarrassing. Very much so. Yes it was.

Being an Old Blue means embracing the "meh".

by SoCal Oski on Nov 16, 2011 7:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d be perplexed and sad (for like 20 minutes). But anger? I can’t muster up that kind of emotion about an NCAA game.

by LeonPowe on Nov 15, 2011 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

That's not "anger", it's a completely unwarranted ad hominem attack

There’s literally zero evidence that Howland is not doing his best to win games for UCLA.

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by PaulThomas on Nov 16, 2011 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL at least one person has a sense of humor
I have a post game tweet for him [Josh Smith]
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by FromCtoShining(Blue)C on Nov 15, 2011 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

this makes me smile.

by j.lee on Nov 15, 2011 10:43 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL.

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by Kodiak on Nov 16, 2011 8:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Anyway, Cal

Concerned about Solomon’s struggles, and that the backup unit really looks overwhelmed out there (but only when they’re on their own). Third game in five nights though, so I’ll give them a pass.

Great win.

by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 15, 2011 10:54 PM PST reply actions  

So, they’ve shown they can play! kudos.
Now let’s see how they do against bigs and talent.

by concordtom on Nov 15, 2011 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I was (and still am) very concerned about the sloppiness our backups displayed when they were out on the court. Looking less polished than the starters is one thing (that’s why they’re backups), but those unforced errors concern me. Can’t afford to make stupid mistakes against better competition than UCI and AP

by FromCtoShining(Blue)C on Nov 15, 2011 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

AP did win the second half.

The poor play against the full-court press didn’t help much either.

by puresilence on Nov 15, 2011 11:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I would be more concerned if those lineups were something we’d show against Georgia and Missouri/ND. But I doubt Monty will ever put a lineup of one starter/four backups in meaningful action.

by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 15, 2011 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Basically this. In the limited number of minutes Murray/Bak will get against better competition, they’re not gonna all be out there together hockey-lineshift-style. All someone like Murray is gonna have to do is hit the occasional open shot and play D, and he’ll be surrounded by more starters that can carry a bigger part of the load. When you put them all out there together, that’s when it becomes a problem, as the backups have to do more than they’re capable of. Against Austin Peay, that’s fine, as it’s a learning experience and will help their development, but don’t expect it to happen against teams that might actually beat us.

by Missing Barry on Nov 16, 2011 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I really like what I've been seeing from Kravish

Granted, it’s been against relatively inferior teams, he seems like an extremely smart player and I’m excited for his potential as he builds on his strength/physique under the program. Seems to me we could have another Kamp in the next few years.

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by ikoolykedat on Nov 16, 2011 7:18 AM PST reply actions  

Youngest FiatSlug thinks that Kravish could be a force inside if he puts on like 20 pounds of muscle. I agree.

In last night’s game, Kravish was well-positioned, and he took smart shots. Smaller players tended to stay away from him. That won’t necessarily be true in Pac-12 play, and he will encounter more opposition inside. Ergo, the comment about added muscle.

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by FiatSlug on Nov 16, 2011 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm fully on board the Kravish bandwagon

Straight KANSAS CITY BALLER. This guy needs to fill up on some of that Gates and Arthur Bryants to pack on some pounds, but man can he play. Just so smart and crafty. Always knows where to be and seems to know his own strengths and limitations. KC BABY

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by Another Successful Tedford QB on Nov 16, 2011 7:41 AM PST reply actions  

Another solid win...

Gutierrez was the best player on the floor all night, they all took advantage of the height advantage of the Bears’ frontcourt, and they stepped on their throat early.

With so many positives, it becomes easy to focus on the few concerns. Couple that stand out are Soloman being out of sync and the 2nd team being unable to execute the offense.

Soloman has had his moments, but he just doesn’t look locked in. I think he’s putting too much pressure on himself and trying to do too much. If/When he settles down and executes though the team will be fine… Still he needs to stay out of foul trouble.

I’m more concerned about Murray, Bak, and anyone else coming in to play spot minutes. May be a minor concern in the long run but the starters are getting assists on what seems like 70%+ of their FGs and the scrubs are getting assisting about 15-20%. It’s expected to be a drop off but that is a massive drop. Murray still has little to no impact on the game other than missing shots and Bak still struggles with defensive positioning and rotation.

Very interested to see how Thurman looks when he gets back. They really need the 4th big for the games when either Soloman or Kamp (or both) get two quick fouls and need to sit all half.

Still I love that my biggest worries are about the 8th-10th guys on the depth chart. The rest of the team is so solid and they play with such chemistry… this will and is a very fun team to watch.

by jeclay on Nov 16, 2011 11:36 AM PST reply actions  

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