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This Week In The Pac-12: IT'S BIG GAME WEEK LET'S LAUGH AT STANFORD WHILE WE STILL CAN

No, being a 20 point underdog won't stop me from engaging in schadenfreude!

Where do we start this week?  With Washington State's stunning upset win over Arizona St.?  With UCLA's no-show against Utah? With Colorado's first ever Pac-12 win? With USC's surprisingly comprehensive victory over a fading Washington squad?  Or should we talk about some interesting early results in Pac-12 basketball?  Or how about we ponder a suddenly relevant question that the NCAA may not even have an answer for:

If a team finishes below .500 (6-7) because they lost in their conference's championship game, does that mean that team is no longer bowl eligible?

Yes, it was an exciting and eventful week in the Pac-12, and I didn't even mention the marquee matchup, which turned out to not be very close at all!  Andrew Luck was mortal, the rest of his team didn't play well, and Chip Kelly doesn't let anybody get away with anything less than their best effort.  The news should be greeted with great joy by all Cal fans because it means that Stanford almost certainly has no chance at the national championship, and because it might mean a better bowl for the Bears if Stanford and Oregon both go to the BCS.

What's that, you say?  You don't want Stanford in a BCS bowl at all?  Well I agree.  Let's beat 'em this week and send them to San Antonio.

Star-divide

Oregon 53, Stanford 30

Reasons Cal fans should have some semblance of hope against Stanford:

1. Our defense is better than their defense.  (Cal: 4.94 yards allowed/play ; Stanford: 5.27 yards allowed/play, and Cal has had a marginally tougher schedule)
2. Stanford is running out of healthy players to catch passes from Andrew Luck, and few if any appear to be viable deep threats.
3. David Shaw isn't Jim Harbaugh.

All three of those issues caused Stanford problems against and Oregon squad that authored arguably the most impressive win of the Chip Kelly era.  I look forward to them inexplicably losing to whichever random Big 10 team emerges from the pack to make the Rose Bowl.

Addicted to Quack talks about all of the things that Cal needs to do next week:

The defensive line did an incredible job. They helped hold Stanford to only 3.7 yards per rush, 2 yards less than their season average. They got to Andrew Luck, previously the least sacked QB in college football. This pressure not only led to 3 sacks and a fumble by Luck, it also led to Luck making poor decisions throwing the ball. With pressure coming down on him, Luck had to try and force throws to receivers and tight ends that could rarely get separation.

Rule of Tree compares Stanford '11 to Cal '04:

[Stanford] enters Big Game in an eerily similar position that Cal had in 2004.  In fact, Stanford's 2011 campaign shares a remarkable amount of the same story with the Bears' 2004 season.  Stellar quarterbacks in their final year, impressive defenses, a great running game... and an inability to beat one team in particular several years in a row.

Can you provide more reasons why Cal fans should have hope this week?

Washington St. 37, Arizona St. 27

A Pac-12 season that has largely been devoid of head-scratching conference results (non-UCLA division) finally gets a shocker.  How in the world did a Washington St. team that most had left for dead in the water beat the presumed 4th best team in the conference?  Connor Halliday, of course!  Wait, who is this unknown man who threw for 494(!) yards in his debut?  Can you imagine Austin Hinder suddenly stepping into a Cal game and throwing for 494 yards?  Because I think that's the rough equivalent of what happened in Pullman on Saturday.

And this wasn't a turnover-filled fluke, either.  The Cougs flat out destroyed ASU's defense.  (As an aside, the Cougars gained their most total yards since a game in 2005 that was Joe Ayoob's shining moment).  I get the sense that Cougcenter doesn't yet have the words to describe what happened:

If you read my preview, you know I had next to no faith that this would happen. However, we knew that Halliday was a bit of a wild card. Wow....was he ever.

House of Sparky can't believe what happened, which makes at least two of us:

ASU's porous secondary gave up several big plays all night and paved the way for Halliday- a redshirt freshman- to have the most yards in a game of any Pac-12 quarterback this year. Halliday finished the night with an astounding 494 yards and four touchdowns while his favorite target, Marquess Wilson, hauled in 223 yards and three touchdowns on eight receptions. For a team that had such high aspirations at the beginning of the year, tonight's Sun Devil defensive performance is unfathomable.

The Sun Devils will almost certainly play Cal knowing they must win to go to the Pac-12 title game.  Is this fact exciting or frightening?

 

Utah 31, UCLA 6

UCLA got blown out by a fellow Southern Division foe and yet still ended the day in first place in the Pac-12 South (non-sanction division).  Utah, meanwhile, might be thinking they can beat Wazzu and Colorado, watch ASU lose to Cal and UCLA lose to USC and set up a bizarre three way tie at 5-4.  Which would be broken by? (Ed. - not entirely accurate - check the comments section for a better explanation)

Record against the next highest placed team in the division (based on record in all Conference games, both divisional and cross-divisional) proceeding through the division.

Oh, well that would be record vs. USC, presumably, which would hand the title back to ASU.  Sorry Utes!  Block U is kinda embarrassed:

How mucked up is the Pac-12 South? Well, look at it this way: Utah, who started 0-4 in the Pac-12, is still mathematically alive with only two weeks left in conference play. . . I don't know if I should be impressed or mortified that the Pac-12 South really does seem that awful.

Bruins Nation stays on message:

This is the second straight night a UCLA team was outclassed, outplayed, out everything-ed.  It is disheartening as a UCLA fan, and why we are calling for a regime change and a culture change in UCLA Athletics.  Losing is one thing, losing in this manner on the road, after a slight bit of momentum in winning your previous two games, is unacceptable.

Was Cal's easy win over Utah their best performance of the season?

 

USC 40, Washington 17

I'm just really bummed we blew that game against Washington.  This one was simple.  USC ran the ball at will while Washington couldn't get anything going on the ground.  Toss in a safety and a special teams touchdown and that's how you get a very convincing rout. Conquest Chronicles is pleased with USC's run defense:

USC's defense did a fantastic job at containing Chris Polk who had only 36-yards on 9 carries....heck UW only had 46-yards rushing on 24 carries. That is a big difference from last year when the defense gave up over 500 yards, over 200 rushing. The defensive line really got some pressure yesterday.

UW Dawg Pound took a step back, took a night to digest the game . . . and still gave everybody an F:

One of our readers mentioned that I should bag grading the game on a position by position basis and just give the entire team an F with the exception of an individual here and there.

After sleeping on it I tend to agree.

If Cal had beaten Washington Cal might be in line for a Holiday or even Alamo Bowl bid.  That's not a question, I'm just still depressed about it.

Colorado 48, Arizona 29

Arizona has generally been so bad that this can't be as big a shock as the WSU/ASU game . . . but still, 48 points and 500 yards of offense from the Buffs?  Three Foles interceptions?  What in the hell happened in Boulder?  Ralphie Report gets one wonderful day worth celebrating:

This is how senior day is supposed to be. A group of guys who have fought together for four or five years and go out on top. This one is a little sweeter though. It has been a tough year, a very tough first year for head coach Jon Embree but today his team played well and got their first Pac-12 win.

Check out AZ Desert Swarm's breakdown of Steve Physioc:

Anyway, here's my quick compilation of things that excites Steve Physioc, because I don't want to nor feel the need to tell you why Arizona has a crappy football team. Just, uh, read the other recaps from this season.

Colorado has the chance to impact the Pac-12 south race with games at UCLA and at Utah.  Do they win either one?

A quick word on Pac-12 basketball

There have been exactly two interesting things so far in a very young basketball season: Arizona kinda struggling with some teams they should beat before beating them, and UCLA losing to a bad Loyola Marymount team at home by 11.  UCLA's lack of guard play is much more dire than most anticipated.  This Week In The Pac-12 will have more comments on basketball later as football winds down.  But we're paying attention.  Don't disappoint us again, UCLA.  Wait, what am I saying?!?  KEEP PROVIDING THE LULZ!

Next Week

Saturday

Washington at Oregon St., 12:30
Utah at Washington St., 2:00
Colorado at UCLA, 4:30, Versus
USC at Oregon, 5:00, ABC
Arizona at Arizona St., 6:30
Cal at Stanford, 7:15, ESPN

Burning questions: How will the Pac-12 South become even weirder this week?  Can USC provide Oregon just as much resistance as they provided Stanford? Will it be Utah or Washington St. that rides into their rivalry game with tons of momentum?  Which lame celebrity vaguely associated with Stanford will get booed?

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Can you imagine Austin Hinder suddenly stepping into a Cal game and throwing for 494 yards?

More like Mansion stepping in seeing as how Halliday was 3rd string not 4th

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Nov 14, 2011 10:43 AM PST reply actions  

but mansion is a senior and hinder is a RS frosh so i think that is an apt analogy

whose domicile? our domicile!

by hardtobecalfan on Nov 14, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that was my thinking.

The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS

by norcalnick on Nov 14, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Got it

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Nov 14, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

The funny thing about that picture is that you just know that it was the first game everyone in it has attended this year. It will also likely be the last.

Their facial expressions are priceless. You can almost hear them thinking “I finally decide to watch one of these gridiron matches in person and this is what I see? I believe I shall return to watching polo next saturday afternoon”

Keep the Furd Bear Territory!

Being an Old Blue means embracing the "meh".

by SoCal Oski on Nov 14, 2011 10:44 AM PST reply actions  

haven’t they been selling out this season??

no bear, no care

by EchoOfSilence on Nov 14, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

WHAT SORT OF MONSTER WOULD DO SUCH A THING?!?!?!?!

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by TwistNHook on Nov 14, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

haven’t they been selling out this season??

Yes, but opposing fans don’t really count

Being an Old Blue means embracing the "meh".

by SoCal Oski on Nov 14, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

while they have technically announced the last few games were “sold out”, the chronicle reported there were thousands of empty seats at at least one… but kudos to Stanfurd. After eliminating 30,000+ seats, a short 5 years later it’s finally paid off.

by fiatlux on Nov 14, 2011 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

After eliminating 30,000+ 35,000+ seats, a short 5 years later it’s finally paid off.

ftfy.

Snodfart’s fanbase is notoriously shallow, and it shows in their attendance numbers. Still, it rankles that they’ve built the stadium they have because it means that Big Games on The Farm will be limited in size: no more of those gloriously huge crowds.

I hate that Cal is losing capacity with no apparent plans to beef things up. If Phase III at CMS ever is built, capacity at CMS will be somewhere under 60K, unless there are additions made. I’d love to see an Eastern Deck to pump the capacity back up to about 70-72K, but I don’t know if it will ever happen.

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by FiatSlug on Nov 15, 2011 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Second to last week of our community predictions (33-10 in conference, 25-4 in Pac-10 games)
Arizona (21.14%) at Arizona State (78.86%)

Cal (18.88%) at Stanford (81.12%)

Colorado (34.32%) at UCLA (65.68%)

USC (8.26%) at Oregon (91.74%)

Utah (82.60%) at Washington State (17.40%)

Washington (44.84%) at Oregon State (55.16%)

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by Berkelium97 on Nov 14, 2011 10:47 AM PST reply actions  

OK, that USC at 8.26% is nuts – they have at least about a 20% chance.

Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?

by Cugel on Nov 14, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

But if 100% of the voters think USC has a 20% chance of winning, how many would pick USC to win? I think that these numbers need to be interpreted as XX% of people choose school YY to win, and not people think school YY has an XX% chance of winning.

by rurata on Nov 14, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Your interpretation is completely correct

These are numbers of people predicting a win, as opposed to picking the chance of a win.

"Some people watch adult videos on their computer - I go to YouTube and watch Jahvid Best highlight clips. That’s what gets me going."- Jim Schwartz, Detroit Lions head coach

by Berkelium97 on Nov 14, 2011 7:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Utah, meanwhile, might be thinking they can beat Wazzu and Utah

Huh?

by FromCtoShining(Blue)C on Nov 14, 2011 10:48 AM PST reply actions  

If we can beat ourselves, so can they!

by puresilence on Nov 14, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I think they already proved they can. A few times!

Being an Old Blue means embracing the "meh".

by SoCal Oski on Nov 14, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

With Utah’s two 5-turnover games and one 4-turnover game, this typo may not be entirely inaccurate…

"Some people watch adult videos on their computer - I go to YouTube and watch Jahvid Best highlight clips. That’s what gets me going."- Jim Schwartz, Detroit Lions head coach

by Berkelium97 on Nov 14, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't know about that

Wazzu suddenly has life (yes, I know that was against Arizona) and Colorado is less of a pushover than a lot of people think

by FromCtoShining(Blue)C on Nov 14, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Arizona State

Attractive, Intelligent, Smart A**

by Neil Vincent Roberts on Nov 15, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

DERP

Thanks, it’s fixed

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by norcalnick on Nov 14, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Even more impressive than Halliday's 494 yards

is his out-of-this-world 13.7 yards per attempt. That stat is simply obscene (especially since he threw it 36 times).

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by Berkelium97 on Nov 14, 2011 10:55 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Wow! 13.7 yards per attempt! That is obscene. And vulgar. And just… patently offensive. Wow…

by HydroTech on Nov 14, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

6-7 teams are not bowl eligible

Although a 6-7 champion would indeed be a novel thing, 6-7 teams with road games to Hawaii are not as rare.

Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts. - R. Feynman

by GBB4188 on Nov 14, 2011 10:57 AM PST reply actions  

If a team finishes below .500 (6-7) because they lost in their conference’s championship game, does that mean that team is no longer bowl eligible?

I don’t have any NCAA bylaw #s to back this up or anything, but I was under the impression that a team had to be at least .500 in the “regular season” to be bowl eligible and a conference championship game counts as the “post season” (which is the reason USC cannot participate). However, I’m not sure there has been a 6-6 division champion before so I’m not exactly sure.

Also, by that definition a 6-7 team with a road game at Hawaii would not be bowl eligible because all 13 of their games are “regular season.”

What I think would be even more embarrassing would be a 7-6 conference champion. 6 losses and a BCS bowl? That’s worse than the 7-9 Seahawks hosting a playoff game.

by Mallrat92204 on Nov 14, 2011 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

OB DROPPING THE KNOWLEDGE!

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by norcalnick on Nov 14, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

The Furd

My buddy mentioned he wanted the Furd and Penn State to both win, just so they’d face each other in the Rose Bowl – and we all know that the Furbil’s crazy (but i have to admit, pretty funny) band would “go there”.

Totally tasteless and downright incorrigible, but Stanford’s band would do it.

by fuzzywuzzy on Nov 14, 2011 10:58 AM PST reply actions  

Against us, they’re pretty bad, especially when you can’t hear the announcer, although I liked their tribute to George W. Bush by forming an “AA” and a martini glass. Also thought the USC alumni-GGW-pimp thing was pretty good, as well. And apparently they were banned from Notre Dame for having someone dressed as the Pope, drinking booze like a fine ol’ Irishman.

Being raised a partially-Irish Catholic, and having become completely un-politically correct since then, I find that pretty darn funny. Plus, since I listen to mostly hard rock music, I simply can’t stand our band’s choice of music – especially the love thing they did against Wazzu. Ugh.

by fuzzywuzzy on Nov 14, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

They can be fun when they’re handed easy material (say, UCLA athletes using disabled placards) but when they try to manufacture their own humor it frequently falls flat.

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by norcalnick on Nov 14, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

The rumor I heard was that they had the priest guy beating a child at the ND show. But that was just the rumor I heard.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 14, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

“beating” seems to be a very diplomatic way to put it.

Being an Old Blue means embracing the "meh".

by SoCal Oski on Nov 14, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Stanfreude!

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
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by AERose on Nov 15, 2011 1:18 AM PST up reply actions  

We Will Always Have The Play

The Play is a testament to the fact that anything can happen at Big Game. AND! Even if we do end up performing as expected this Saturday, The Play is always and forever a huge W for Cal. I don’t care who has won more Big Games. :)

That’s my two cents, personally. And why I just wrote this post on my blog (slightly different than the California Golden Blogs, but still pro-Cal football to the max!) about how the play can help peeps have great sex!

Yes, yes … shameless plug.

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by smarthotfun on Nov 14, 2011 11:16 AM PST reply actions  

Hey, there was a link to you when you just started in some past DBD…

by iVinshe on Nov 14, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

We also have “The Pick”

Of course, furd has “The Block”, but that isn’t nearly as good.

Being an Old Blue means embracing the "meh".

by SoCal Oski on Nov 14, 2011 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Furd has that beat-down run over Cattouse last year by Luck, which I’m sure I’ll have to painfully witness again since I’m going to the game.

I know Cattouse hasn’t forgotten that one, and me thinks he will come with vengance in mind (hopefully not after the whistle though).

by fuzzywuzzy on Nov 14, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

that’s more in your memory than anyone outside of the two schools. I’ve been pleasantly surprised at how little I had seen that this year/

by fiatlux on Nov 14, 2011 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course, furd has "The Block", but that isn’t nearly as good.

That and 1990. I think older Stanford alums hold that game in much higher regard than 1988.

by RedOscar on Nov 14, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

1990? Was there a game played then? I seem to recall that was officially wiped off the record because of blatant fraud by the officials.

Being an Old Blue means embracing the "meh".

by SoCal Oski on Nov 15, 2011 7:48 AM PST up reply actions  

20 point underdog? That's nothing!

Cal won the 1986 Big Game despite being a 21-point underdog!

"For eight long years have those lobster backs made you bite the dust. It is your turn now. Make them bite and bite hard. Play, every one of you until you drop in your tracks; and when you can’t play any longer, we’ll put another man in your place. If you are repulsed once, come at them again, harder." - Garrett Cochran, Big Game 1898

by CalBear81 on Nov 14, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Happy to see you posting here smarthotfun.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 14, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

[Stanfurd] enters Big Game in an eerily similar position that Cal had in 2004. In fact, Stanfurd’s 2011 campaign shares a remarkable amount of the same story with the Bears’ 2004 season. Stellar quarterbacks in their final year, impressive defenses, a great running game… and an inability to beat one team in particular several years in a row.

Our ’04 season has more in common with their ’10 season than with their ’11 season.

by TheScientist019 on Nov 14, 2011 1:02 PM PST reply actions  

Why coudlnt their 11 season be more like our 05 season???

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by TwistNHook on Nov 14, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

…except they went to a BCS bowl :(

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by atomsareenough on Nov 14, 2011 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

. . . except that in 2004 Cal lost a very close game on the road to USC, while in 2011 Stanfurd was blown out at home by Oregon.

"For eight long years have those lobster backs made you bite the dust. It is your turn now. Make them bite and bite hard. Play, every one of you until you drop in your tracks; and when you can’t play any longer, we’ll put another man in your place. If you are repulsed once, come at them again, harder." - Garrett Cochran, Big Game 1898

by CalBear81 on Nov 14, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

…and they still went to a BCS bowl and we didn’t get to go to the Rose Bowl :( :(

"i, for one, welcome our new atomic overlords" - GoldBlooded

by atomsareenough on Nov 14, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

They added an extra BCS game. Affirmative action for rich kids!

"For eight long years have those lobster backs made you bite the dust. It is your turn now. Make them bite and bite hard. Play, every one of you until you drop in your tracks; and when you can’t play any longer, we’ll put another man in your place. If you are repulsed once, come at them again, harder." - Garrett Cochran, Big Game 1898

by CalBear81 on Nov 14, 2011 2:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Also noteworthy: in ‘04 we hadn’t demonstrated “an inability to beat one team in particular several years in a row.” We beat USC in 2003.

Sing glorious, victorious!

by Calfan on Nov 14, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Shit, even for Stanfurd they seemed to have changed the definition of "several" to "two."

Seriously these Rule of Trees guys are not very on top of their shit.

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

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by AERose on Nov 15, 2011 1:20 AM PST up reply actions  

South 3-way tie-breaker is wrong

Nick, you need to read those tie-breaker rules more carefully… before they get to the rule you picked, they go to DIVISION record, which will not be the same between the teams.

ASU probably still comes out out on top (a win over Arizona and a loss to Cal puts the at 4-1 in division whereas the other two already have 2 in division losses), but division record comes before comparing to the next best team in the conference.

by kencraw on Nov 14, 2011 1:14 PM PST reply actions  

A 3-way tie between UCLA, ASU, and Utah

In order for a 3-way tie in the South Division between ASU, UCLA, and Utah:

ASU would have to split its final two games (probably defeating Arizona and losing to Cal)
UCLA would have to split its final two games (probably defeating Colorado and losing to USC)
Utah would have to win out (defeating Wazzu and Colorado)

All three teams would finish with a 5-4 Pac-12 record.

As per the Pac-12 2011 Football Media Guide, the tie-breakers for a multiple team tie is as follows:

Multiple-Team Ties.
The following procedures will only be used to eliminate all but two teams,
at which point the two-team tie-breaking procedure will be applied.
1. Head-to-head (Best record in games among the tied teams).
2. Record in games played within the division.
3. Record against the next highest placed team in the division
(based on record in all games played within the conference),
proceeding through the division.
4. Record in common conference games.
5. Highest BCS ranking following the last weekend of regular-season
games.

Note that the procedure is to eliminate teams to get to the Two-Team Tiebreakers. In a 3-way tie between ASU, Utah, and UCLA, all of the involved teams have a 1-1 record against the others (head-to-head tie-breaker).

ASU defeated Utah, 35-14 (Oct. 8)
UCLA defeated ASU, 29-28 (Nov 5)
Utah defeated UCLA, 31-6 (Nov 12)

The next tie breaker is record within the (South) Division.
ASU is 4-1 (lost only to UCLA)
UCLA is 2-3 (lost to Arizona, Utah, and theoretically USC)
Utah is 3-2 (lost to USC, and ASU).

This eliminates UCLA because they have the worst of the three South Division records. That leaves ASU and Utah. As noted earlier, ASU defeated Utah, 35-14 on October 8. ASU is crowned South Division champion.

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by FiatSlug on Nov 14, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the info Ken! (for those with more questions, check out this post)

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by norcalnick on Nov 14, 2011 5:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Which lame celebrity vaguely associated with Stanford will get booed?

I’m guessing Condi Rice.

by daveman on Nov 14, 2011 3:32 PM PST reply actions  

oh would be so much lawl if it was Phil Knight (went to bus school there)

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 14, 2011 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

No chance

I’d guess we’d go with the all white unis and the blue helmet for this one. Channel the spirit of 2009.

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by Ohio Bear on Nov 15, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Help Us Beat Stanford please

Go Bears!
Cal Fans, in light of the upcoming "Big Game" , Can you help us Beat Stanford?
We are a group of Cal Students who started the "Beat Stanford" Facebook community.
We are participating in a competition based on the number of "Likes" we receive.
Could you please Like our page at:
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