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Roll On: Previewing the Oregon State Defense

Oregon St. might be the Pac-12 team I know least about.  They’re young, with tons of new players.  They’ve rarely been on TV in the Bay Area, and when they have it’s overlapped with the Cal game.  I watched the first quarter of their game against Wisconsin and the last five or 10 minutes of their game against Arizona . . . and that’s it.

So the first thing I did to preview the defense was to study the depth chart.  I recognized one name, and unfortunately that one name only jumped out because Jordan Poyer is the latest guy to give Chris Owusu a concussion.  There are only three players on the defense with more than nine career starts, which means the other eight guys are all regular starters for the first time this year.

After hearing that you’re probably thinking, "Damn, why couldn’t we have gotten the Beavers early in the year, before the new guys got nine games of experience?!?"  Well, it’s true that Oregon St. isn’t nearly as bad as the team that lost to Sac St., but other than a blow out win over Washington St. (who, as it turns out, is still Washington St.) OSU has been outplayed in every game.  Only a turnover storm gave the Beavers a home win over Arizona, and that was so embarrassing it ended the Stoops era.

Oregon St. is so bad this year that every team they beat will probably fire their coach at some point before the end of next year.  Cal had better not end up in that category.

Star-divide

Defensive Line: Fr. L End Dylan Wynn ; Jr. L Tackle Andrew Seumalo ; Sr. R Tackle Kevin Frahm ; Fr. R End Scott Crichton

You’ve got a true freshman (Wynn) a red shirt freshman (Crichton) and a walk-on (Seumalo). That’s usually not the formula for a fearsome defensive line.  Crichton has actually had a pretty solid season and will likely be a pain in our butts for the next three years.  10 tackles for loss, 4 sacks and 4 fumbles forced from a freshman is pretty legit.  Unfortunately for him his teammates on the line haven’t done much of anything else – the other three starters have a combined 1 sack.

Linebackers: Sr. SLB Cameron Collins, Jr. MLB Feti ‘Unga, So. WLB Michael Doctor

Doctor is the guy that can hurt you (Oh the irony!).  He’s been filling up the stat sheet with tackles, interceptions, sacks and pass breakups all year, which suggests an impressive degree of versatility from any linebacker, let alone a sophomore.  Another guy that will probably annoy us for a few years. 

Collins is the veteran of the unit but has, like many OSU players, missed time due to injuries.  Similarly, Unga has missed OSU’s last three games and his status is unknown.  If Unga can’t play then Jr. Rueben Robinson will likely start in his place.

Secondary: Jr. LCB Jordan Poyer, Jr. S Anthony Watkins, Sr. S Lance Mitchell, So. RCB Rashaad Reynolds

Watkins and Mitchell are both some of the leading tacklers on the OSU defense – never a good sign when your safeties are both high on that list.  Redshirt safety Ryan Martin is the nickel back, though with Cal likely to run the ball I wouldn’t think OSU would send out the nickel package except on obvious passing downs.

Poyer is the one to watch.  He’s got three picks on the year, 12 pass break-ups and 15 passes defended.  Those are numbers that could lead to all-conference consideration, and as Stanford can attest he can deliver the big hit.  I wouldn’t be surprised to see him lined up against Keenan Allen.  If that’s the case it would be nice to see Marvin Jones get involved a little more.

Against the run

4.45 yards/attempt,  76th in the nation

Not good, not awful.  For comparison’s sake, Cal’s rushing attack is similar in quality to Arizona St.’s.  Sun Devil running backs averaged 5.5 yards/carry against Oregon St.  Also for comparison’s sake – Oregon St.’s run defense is only marginally better than Washington St.’s run defense. 

"But Nick" you ask, "Surely Oregon St.’s run defense should have an advantage because they know we want to run first, so they’ll stack the box and force Maynard to throw!"  Well, that’s a fair point, kind reader.  It was my concern as well.  But there’s two reasons that doesn’t scare me.  For one, our WRs are just too good to allow a team to truly stack the box.  KA21 will make you pay. 

For another, look at OSU’s game against Utah.  The Utes without their starting QB have to be the prototypical ‘stack the box, force them to beat your through the air’ team, right?  Yet against the Beavers John White carried the ball 35 times for 205 yards while Jon Hays threw for 62 yards on 16 attempts.  Utah ran the ball SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT OF THE TIME and still Oregon St. couldn’t stop them.  Color me unimpressed.

Against the pass

7.7 yards/attempt, 88th in the nation

Beyond that iffy yards/attempt, Oregon St. has allowed opponents to complete 64.5 percent of their passes, which is pretty bad.  That implies to me that the defense tends to play back but allows receivers to come open underneath.  That the Beavers have been reasonably successful at preventing big pass plays despite games against Andrew Luck, and Russell Wilson adds some credence to the idea.

But in the end it’s the same story as the UCLA and Washington St. games – guys will be open.  If Utah/Wazzu Maynard shows up we’ll move the ball.  If USC/UCLA Maynard is on the field we won’t.

Stats of Dubious Predictive Value

Turnovers

17 total turnovers forced (9 fumbles, 8 interceptions), 40th in the nation.

7 of those 17 turnovers came in Oregon State’s only two wins of the season over Arizona and Washington St.  The message is clear.  Oregon St. is not good enough to win most games without a significant advantage in turnover margin.

3rd Down

47.37% opponent conversion rate, 102nd in the nation.

Red Zone

81.08 opponent touchdown rate, 119th in the nation

Only the mighty men from New Mexico prevent the Beavers from having the worst red zone touchdown prevention rate in the nation.  I can’t even begin to guess what it is about OSU that makes them so bad in this metric (other than random chance), but there you have it.  Cal’s red zone ‘struggles’ have been overstated because of those two horrible games against Washington and Oregon, but it’s still nice to see such a high number next to Oregon State.

Conclusions

Looking at the stats, it’s been a long, slow steady decline in performance for Oregon State’s defense.  Consider:

Yards allowed/play by year:

2007: 4.5 (7th in the nation)
2008: 5.0 (37th)
2009: 5.4 (54th)
2010: 5.7 (69th)
2011: 5.8 (81st)

Every year people would wonder if Mike Riley’s inexplicable run of successful teams would end.  How could OSU keep getting such production from players with relatively little regard coming out of high school?  OSU has been sending unheralded players to the pros for the last few years, but finally they haven’t been able to replace that production.  On defense there have been gradually diminishing returns as that talent graduated.  Combine that with a weaker offense last year and especially this year, and the bottom fell out.  Now OSU is 2-7, and it's not an unlucky fluke - it’s the record they deserve.

Does that mean that Cal should win?  Yes.  Does that mean that Cal will win?  Hell if I know.  But if Cal loses it won’t be to the same OSU teams that have beaten Cal in years past.  It will be to a young, injury-ravaged, talent-starved outfit.  It would be baaaaad.  It would likely cost this team a bowl, multiple weeks of practice, any kind of positive feelings that might have developed in the off-season . . . Gotta win this game.  Not doing so would be disastrous.

Poll
How many points does Cal's offense score against Oregon State?
0-10, Mike Riley's curse lives!
27 votes
11-20, Enough for an ugly win?
48 votes
21-30, Zach and Isi get it done.
132 votes
31+, Another easy win at home!
27 votes

234 votes | Poll has closed

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so what you're saying is

that they are better on defense than ucla was before we played them?!

whose domicile? our domicile!

by hardtobecalfan on Nov 11, 2011 6:46 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Oh oh

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Nov 11, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Good write-up, Nick. Now I’m convinced that we’re screwed.

Riley’s defense has seemed to have Tedford’s number over the years. I’m not sure exactly why. They don’t do anything particularly fancy scheme-wise. But, their guys really fly to the ball, know their assignments, and execute very well; especially (sigh) towards the end of the year.

A lot of times, they try to disrupt the timing of your passing game by going bump n’ run with their corners while letting their front 7 both stuff the run and pressure the QB.

Because Riley’s low-key approach depends on developing young players who may not have been as touted in HS, I think he was hurt by a number of injuries/departures over the past couple of years. That might be why he finds himself in more of a rebuilding mode this year. I don’t think he suddenly forgot to coach overnight. Maybe he (gasp) simply missed on a couple of key player evals.

Old Toothwrangler

by Kodiak on Nov 11, 2011 8:55 AM PST reply actions  

This seems like a very different Oregon State team

Than the ones that have owned us in the past. They’re backwards from what we’re used to seeing. Previous Beaver teams could dominate in the trenches on both sides of the ball, this one hasn’t.

If we don’t beat this team, we’re bad. Pretty simple.

I am THE DOOMBRINGER. We Are Cal.

by ManBearCal on Nov 11, 2011 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s a good point. They’re a lot weaker on the Dline than we’ve seen in the past. Fingers crossed that our Oline can just take over this one.

Old Toothwrangler

by Kodiak on Nov 11, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I seem to recall that the last time we faced a shit defense we were as impotent on offense as a 60-year old CEO who forgot his cialis meds. We seem to take some bizarre pity on poor defenses and end up giving them a full-season’s worth of highlights. So, needless to say, I am not expecting much.

But then again, I never expect much. It’s a malady.

Being an Old Blue means embracing the "meh".

by SoCal Oski on Nov 11, 2011 9:05 AM PST reply actions  

actually

the last time we faced a shit defense was last week, and we ran for almost 300 yards.

obviously i see your point, but still.

I am THE DOOMBRINGER. We Are Cal.

by ManBearCal on Nov 11, 2011 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

You and your facts. I prefer to face life without the burden of having to worry about things like that. I trust my gut. You know, there are more nerve endings in the gut than in the brain. And I don’t care what the medical or “science” books say, because I believe that … in my nerve-filled gut.

Being an Old Blue means embracing the "meh".

by SoCal Oski on Nov 11, 2011 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

you should change your name to

SoCallous Oski.

/witty

I’m with you though, our team can’t be trusted. Especially not against the Beavers. Its too bad too, because on paper we should win this game. Too bad that doesn’t mean anyting and actually makes me even more wary of yet another soul crushing and pathetic display.

I am THE DOOMBRINGER. We Are Cal.

by ManBearCal on Nov 11, 2011 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I prefer SoCynical Oski.

In any case, I totally agree with your take. We should win this game. OSU is a talent-depleted team, still searching for an identity and consistency. If our kids maintain their focus and intensity, we should have as easy a time as last week.

My personal feeling is that this game is a chance for the coaching staff to gain redemption after that Ucla disaster. Like that game, this is an easy one for our guys to overlook and already have in the “W” column, especially with the Big Game coming up next. If our guys come out flat, disinterested, uninspired, and lackadaisical it will be entirely on the coaches, and at that point I think I will have almost totally lost confidence.

I better stop, or I’m going to Old Blue myself into a pretty severe alcohol haze. Sweet liquor takes away the pain …

Being an Old Blue means embracing the "meh".

by SoCal Oski on Nov 11, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't think the team is overlooking this game

There is no doubt in my mind that they understand winning this game is the key to getting bowl eligible. The coaches have been pounding this fact home, and these guys WANT to get that win. It’s huge. Despite the Big Game next weekend, there is no way we can afford to lose this one. I think they know that. Really.

But as you said, we’re in trouble if we don’t jump on the Beavers right away. We’ll need to stop their offense a couple times, then manufacture some points. anything less than a 10-0 or 14-0 score entering the second quarter means the Beavers are hanging around. Like UCLA, that gives them confidence to not only play with us, but beat us. If we end up in a fight, we could lose.

we’re a superior team, but if we don’t play like it that won’t matter. yet another chance for us to beat ourselves.

I am THE DOOMBRINGER. We Are Cal.

by ManBearCal on Nov 11, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like a 30-0 game for me. Cal is doomed.

by Missing Barry on Nov 11, 2011 10:26 AM PST reply actions  

Admittedly, the only time I watched OSU in depth was their second game of the season against Wisconsin (go Great Steak Avalanche), but my impression at the time was as follows (also with the corollary that I recognize they were playing WI who have a heavy focus on the run and the O-Line to back it up):

1) Were successful stopping the run early, but had to sell out to do so leaving intermediate passing lanes wide open – talking wide open.

2) Little to no pressure on the QB. Looking at their subsequent games stats, only teams they’ve had success with pressure wise were ASU and WSU (4 sacks a piece – though they did put the ball in the air 37 and 33 times respectively). Take from that what you will.

3) Gassed out on defense due to lack of depth. I think this is the key point here. If Cal can make the commitment to pounding the ball, I think we have a very good chance of gashing them once their front four get worn down.

Marshawn Lynch would drive a cart around the field after the game to celebrate your mode and its beastliness, sir.

by thebusinessbear on Nov 11, 2011 11:25 AM PST reply actions  

Consider it pumped.

/realizeswhathasbeendone
/holdsheadinhands
/praysfootballgodsdon’tsmitethebears

Marshawn Lynch would drive a cart around the field after the game to celebrate your mode and its beastliness, sir.

by thebusinessbear on Nov 11, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope the qb doesn't think that our primary and secondary receivers are being "double covered"

when they are actually playing zone or blitz/cover. Because our Qb likes to roll-out- it’s going to be a long game, because their LB’s look faster than WSU’s (by watching the game vs the Furd)- I’m seeing at least 1 more game changing INT this game. Great write up, btw.

I also think that their offense is actually better than what appears. Mannion seems to have consistently improved-and I believe that it’s do to his being able to control his emotions and being coachable during game-time- as there seems to be pretty good second half adjustments.

If Cal has a marginal lead in the first half-and knowing how our coaches coach, we may lose this game if that happens.

OSU by 4. Cal 15- OSU 19. It’s gonna be sloppy.

Anyhoos, I’ll be there in the cold, grey, damp stadium, screaming my lungs out for one last time in ATT for our kids this season. Or maybe one more time if they are picked for the post season?

by rollonyoubears111 on Nov 11, 2011 4:55 PM PST reply actions  

Good stuff, Nick

I predict we will win 34-10 or so.

Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?

by Cugel on Nov 11, 2011 5:04 PM PST reply actions  

Only a turnover storm gave the Beavers a home win over Arizona, and that was so embarrassing it ended the Stoops era.

You’re welcome.

by scotty256 on Nov 11, 2011 8:53 PM PST reply actions  

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