DBD 10.6.11 - ROLL ON YOU BEARS
Much has been made about the athletes Cal has lost, wrt last year, and how that will impact the defense. I don't really see it that way, and I've been known to be fairly critical. I mean, Cam was a 1st round draft pick and he had a nice career here. But he didn't really play like a freakin' dominant first round draft pick. He wasn't necessarily a "game changer" out there. Mohammed, while a nice story and absolutely excellent as a role player, was never a dominant inside backer either (5th rd pick?). Conte surprised nearly everyone and "put it together", but even he was a 3rd round pick and we won't confuse him for Troy Pauluamaoajadsdjddlu.
Guyton had 2 sacks last week, Kendricks played like a younger version of Patrick Willis last week and, well, our secondary couldn't cover a crock pot. You got me there. However, Cattouse and, to a lesser extent, Campbell have shown they can be athletic and make a play. Thomas is only rushing 3.5 times a game anyways (to date). WE GOT THIS!
We've got depth on the DL should we somehow choose to use it. There aren't many teams that can sub in a Gabe King or Deandre Coleman. Playing the athletic OLBs will give us speed up front and the bye week has allowed us time to install the "stick to the lanes" technique that has been lacking.
Sure, they could have 40+ rolled up on them. It could happen. It certainly did in 2009. As KenCraw recapped, history says Cal plays Oregon very well, in a way that Washington and OSU play Cal well. In 8 contests, Cal has held Oregon under 30 points 7 times. If we can do that, on the road, then we've given our offense a chance to win this.
GO BEARS!
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I just see some more fight in this team than in years past. More than anything, I think that even if the Bears go down, they go down swinging. I also have a sinking feeling that there isn’t a single player in the locker room who isn’t going into this with the attitude that they put Cal back on the map on Thursday.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
How could you not?
I suppose if one were so curmudgeonly that reminders of innocence and wonder grate like sandpaper on the soul, one would not like Calvin & Hobbes.
Takes me back to my kids’ childhoods. Especially the oldest one, who was the biggest Calvin & Hobbes fan. He was born in ’93 (after Waterson retired the comic strip), but he loves Calvin & Hobbes as much as anyone I ever knew. And I got to see the strip again through his eyes, in a way I could not as a young adult.
"We do not seek men who will bravely lie down to die, but men who will fight valiantly to live."
"Winning is not everything. It is far better to play the game squarely and lose than to win at the sacrifice of an ideal."
-- Andrew Latham Smith
Re-reading Calvin and Hobbes as an adult vs as a little kid offers an entirely different perspective.
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True Story
When I was 20-21ish I helped my dad coach my little brother’s basketball team (he basically yelled at the refs and dealt with the parents, while I ran the practices and developed the schemes). But at the end of games we went took advantage of having a bevy of excellent athletes and ball-handlers with an all-out press designed to create chaos. My dad nicknamed this ‘Helter Skelter’. So we basically encouraged a bunch of 5 & 6 graders to pursue helter skelter. Yea, that will have a different meaning for the kids in the future.
I support the NBA player's union.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
You’re right: Watterson retired Calvin & Hobbes on December 31, 1995.
Time has a way of telescoping; my failure to remember the overlap is one example of that.
"We do not seek men who will bravely lie down to die, but men who will fight valiantly to live."
"Winning is not everything. It is far better to play the game squarely and lose than to win at the sacrifice of an ideal."
-- Andrew Latham Smith
If UW was somehow in the SEC, they’d be ranked #________ in the nation.
Yeah, I get the close wins over E. Wash and Hawai’i. If you put 38 up on the board in Lincoln, that’s a quality loss (even though this is like the 1000th time UW-Nebraska have met). It’s not flukey, their QB and RB are awesome. And they rolled into Utah and put a thumping on a team that was popping up in the Top 25 over the last few years like Paula Abdul pops Norcos.
If UW was renamed “Florida” they’d be in the Top 15 no questions asked.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
yeah, I get it. They’ll pop into the rankings just in time to play Stanford, at which point they’ll pop out again and won’t resurface for a few additional weeks. That’s life as a Pac10/12 fan I suppose.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Should’ve added Texass when we had the chance. Maybe then, they would have given us the overrated-rank virus
Tony Gonzalez? University of California?
ahh yes. This years UW team reminds me of that 2008 Michigan St team awhile back that lost to all ranked teams (Cal, Ohio St, and maybe a Penn St) but won all other games in what was a pathetic Big Ten conference. I think they went 10-2 and would up in the mid-teens all season but, in fact, they beat freakin nobody.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Well, except Florida wasn’t going 0-12 a few short seasons ago, they were contending for national championships. I agree with you that Washington is a pretty good team, but they still have something to prove.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
mmkay. How about Texas’ meteoric rise despite a 7 loss season?
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
and Rice, BYU, UCLA, and Iowa St are SO challenging.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
they also barely beat byu. my dad (ut alum) expects them to end up 7-5 or 8-4
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by carp on Oct 6, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is your dad Mack Brown?
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Well, two factors: 1. Yeah, a 7-loss season is bad, but in the context of the past several years of Texas footaball, it’s a 1-season anomaly. They’re still loaded with ridiculous amounts of talent.
2. It’s partially a factor of there not being that many other schools worth ranking highly at this juncture. I tried doing my weekly ranking just last night, and despite not being completely sold on Texas either (I believe I had them unranked until the week before), frankly all the other teams below them had more glaring flaws. It’s still early and things are in flux.
I did rank Washington in my poll though, FWIW.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
huh

Only 10% chance of rain tonight in the Eugene area
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
The response by his competitors was really, really classy.
Google’s frontpage is nice.
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What is it? Google’s front page is just Google for me.
by Scootie on Oct 6, 2011 11:40 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
hey can you update us on APL stock and futures falling? cause i hurd it’s goin down
Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
AAPL, not APL
Anyway, it really hasn’t moved today. Went up earlier, now it’s down about 40 bps, which is marginal.
In essence, this news does not seem to have had any effect on the stock price.
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not really, Jobs leaving the company was the major change. I think him finally stepping down was a strong indicator he wasn’t long for this world.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
The stock stayed pretty flat when Jobs left as well.
Investors trust Tim Cook
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the important thing is that the corporate culture reflects what steve brought over, not that steve was leading everything. you can do an mba study on this in a couple of years.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
you can’t handle being married :)
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
Eventually? I dunno, LTR are hard enough, can’t imagine how tough marriage is.
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Marriage is great. I havent bought bread in years. Yet, I havent run out of bread in years. Its pure genius!
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2011 CALIFORNIA FOOTBALL
Thursday, Oct. 6, 6:00 p.m. (PT)
Cal (3-1, 0-1 Pac-12) at Oregon (3-1, 1-0 Pac-12)
Autzen Stadium, Eugene, OR
Live Coverage
TV: ESPN/ESPN 3D – Rece Davis (Play-by-Play), Craig James (Analyst), Jesse Palmer (Analyst), Jenn Brown (Sideline Analyst)
Cal Commercial Radio: KGO 810 AM (San Francisco) – Joe Starkey (Play-By-Play), Troy Taylor (Analyst, Pregame Show), Todd McKim (Pregame Show, Sideline), Lee Grosscup (Postgame Show), Kate Scott (Postgame Show) Postgame at the Paragon, Claremont Hotel Club & Spa, 41 Tunnel Road, Berkeley, CA
IMG College/Cal Radio Network Affiliates: KFPT 790 AM (Fresno), KESP 970 AM (Modesto), KPRZ 1210 AM (San Diego), KMZT 1260 AM (Los Angeles), KTKZ 1380 AM (Sacramento), KFIG 1430 AM (Fresno).
All-Access Radio: The Cal commercial radio broadcast feed of the game can be heard on the Internet thorugh the All-Access channel on CalBears.com. All-Access can be found under the Multimedia tab at the top of the page.
Cal Student Radio: KALX 90.7 FM (Berkeley) – KALX 90.7 FM (Berkeley) – Danny Freisinger (Play-By-Play), Elliott Schwimmer (Analyst)
Sirius XM Satellite Radio: The commercial radio broadcasts of both teams for the Cal-Oregon game can be heard on Sirius XM satellite radio. The Sirius and XM channels for the Cal feed are both 85. The Sirius and XM channels for the Oregon feed are both 91.
National Radio: Sports USA Radio Network, sportsusaradio.com – Dan Fouts (Play by-Play), John Robinson (Analyst)
CalBears.com: Visit CalBears.com for complete coverage of Cal football, including a live play-by-play update via Gametracker.
Cal Coaches Corner: The one-hour program airs from 6-7 p.m. each Monday on KNEW Radio (910) and is broadcast live from the Paragon at the Claremont Hotel, Club and Spa in Berkeley.
Fans are welcome to listen in person at the Claremont (41 Tunnel Road in Berkeley), while those who want to submit questions to coach Tedford can do so by logging on at CalBears.com/fanquestion.
Cal Sports Report: Host Todd McKim and reporter Francesca Weems bring viewers the latest in Cal Athletics each week on the Cal Sports Report airing on CSN California this week on Wednesday at 5:00 p.m. PT, Thursday at 7 p.m. PT, and Friday at 2 and 10 p.m. PT. The show normally debuts each week on Wednesday at 5 p.m. unless pre-empted by a live sports event and replays several times each week.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Gawd, I may go screaming into the night...
I’m not sure which is worse: the ritualistic mangler of play-by-play or the pompous, arrogant bully.
If I choose Starkey, it’s only because I have my eyes to tell me what Joe cannot (or will not).
KALX is a distinct possibility.
"We do not seek men who will bravely lie down to die, but men who will fight valiantly to live."
"Winning is not everything. It is far better to play the game squarely and lose than to win at the sacrifice of an ideal."
-- Andrew Latham Smith
Apparently, there is a KALX stream
Check it out:
I haven’t actually tried the stream, only noting the URL.
"We do not seek men who will bravely lie down to die, but men who will fight valiantly to live."
"Winning is not everything. It is far better to play the game squarely and lose than to win at the sacrifice of an ideal."
-- Andrew Latham Smith
More KALX listening info
Go to the How to listen | KALX-FM webpage
As to whether or not the game will be streaming, I can only guess that it will be. I’ve seen nothing to tell me that it won’t.
"We do not seek men who will bravely lie down to die, but men who will fight valiantly to live."
"Winning is not everything. It is far better to play the game squarely and lose than to win at the sacrifice of an ideal."
-- Andrew Latham Smith
It’s enough that I’m helpful.
"We do not seek men who will bravely lie down to die, but men who will fight valiantly to live."
"Winning is not everything. It is far better to play the game squarely and lose than to win at the sacrifice of an ideal."
-- Andrew Latham Smith
Why must math be involved in this???? Lets not drag math into this!
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FML
Dan Fouts is on the national radio broadcast, too.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
I plan on just drinking in a loud bar instead of listening to any announcers
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
As I told Rishi
I don’t have this option. I have to be up at 4 in the morning for work so I need to be in bed watching the 4th quarter instead of at a bar.
Mute your TV and play some Lady Gaga—it beats listening to James.
Tony Gonzalez? University of California?
I don’t think I’ll be watching it at a bar today either =/
I have to re-do a bunch of my essays in time for tomorrow.
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Well, he woke up in a Soho doorway, a policeman knew his name.
Number one fan of Justin Bieber being the number one fan of the Dodgers, and not the [2010 World Series Champion] Giants.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
B-school apps =/
The next three months of my life are not going to be fun.
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I loved college!
But, more importantly, I think an MBA will help me get to where I want.
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I loved the environment, hated the actual work. I should probably go back to get my MBA in business and maybe one day I will.
get my MBA in business
…is there another kind?
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Masters Of Beer And Alcohol.
Isnt that what Rishi has been working on???
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Masters in Balla Administration?
Keeping January 2 open. You know, just in case.
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Not helping guys..

Seen at The Chicago Board of Trade in response to the ‘Occupy Chicago’ movement.
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lol, but he does have a point
And while it would be easy to write off these so-called protests as diffuse expressions of general twentysomething malaise, as they have grown, they have developed into something more dangerous: Organizing and promoting an “occupation” distinguishes this effort as that of a mob.
Capitalism, the system “Occupy Wall Street” so feverishly wants to bury, operates on the principle of voluntary trade, not occupation and threat. Capitalism treats men not as sacrifices for the public good, but as independent individuals with their own lives. From the professional on the trading floor to the kid selling lemonade, investors know that if you want something from someone else, you can’t simply demand it by occupation, you have to trade for it, just as others must trade with you.
That’s the justice protestors are seeking to destroy.
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lol, they’re so “dangerous”!
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I think that quote mischaracterizes both the protestors and capitalism. Neither activity is solely one point on a continuum, and the method of protest is not in itself an alternative economic model – conflating the two makes the protestors look rather more dangerous than they actually are.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
by DC Trojan on Oct 6, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with your general thrust.
But I think it goes deeper than that. The quote Rishi posted shows: (1) the intellectual dishonesty of those who seek to preserve the status quo, (2) the deliberate obfuscation and mischaracterization of the protestor’s aims and (3) the fundamental fear and greed of those closely allied with “Wall Street.”
I’d like to see a demonstration of confidence by “Wall Street” to boost the confidence of the American public. But it will not be forthcoming in no small part because of the climate of fear that has pervaded America since 9-11-01. There’s been a subtle, but fundamental shift in the American psyche since that date, and the forces of greed that prey in part on fear have taken advantage to keep it going.
It may not be conscious, it may not be deliberate. But it is pervasive and people have had added reason to buy into it since September 2008.
"We do not seek men who will bravely lie down to die, but men who will fight valiantly to live."
"Winning is not everything. It is far better to play the game squarely and lose than to win at the sacrifice of an ideal."
-- Andrew Latham Smith
General Thrust

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lol, Occupy Chicago called it
“Wall Street’s 1st Large Scale Response in Chicago.”
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I just mute the TV and chat with friends
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Well, yes, but I only have 1 cat.
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Does this mean I have to put my pants back on?
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In Many Ways
I’m more worried about Craig James talking shit all-night than I am about the Bears being blown out. My greatest fear is the combination of the two.
I support the NBA player's union.
Is this gonna be on ESPN3?
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Excellent. Thanks.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
carp, thanks for the DBD. Its 10.6.11, so I updated your headline.
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Mens tennis doing great:
TULSA, Okla. – California men’s tennis sophomore Ben McLachlan won his third straight match to become one of 16 players to emerge from the qualifying tournament and earn a coveted spot in the singles main draw of the 2011 ITA Men’s All-American Tennis Championships on Wed., Oct. 5, at the Michael D. Case Tennis Center. The second-year Golden Bear also claimed a spot in the doubles main draw as he and his partner junior Carlos Cueto posted two more wins in the qualifier.
McLachlan secured a 6-3, 6-2 win over Vitor Manzini of Texas Tech in the qualifier final to earn his berth in the main draw. He will get on court for a 9:30 a.m. CT match against fourth-seeded No. 5-ranked Chase Buchanan of Ohio State on Thur., Oct. 6. McLachlan’s second-round match would start no earlier than 2 p.m. should he advance past Buchanan.
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Womens Soccer hosts LA schools:
Friday, Oct. 5
4 p.m. – No. 2 UCLA (10-0-1, 3-0-0 Pac-12) at No. 18 Cal (8-3-1, 1-1-1 Pac-12)
Edwards Stadium – Berkeley
Series Record with the Bruins: 4-13-0
Last Meeting: L, 1-0 in Los Angeles (Oct. 8, 2010)
Sunday, Oct. 7
1 p.m. – USC (3-9-0, 0-3-0 Pac-12) at No. 18 Cal (8-3-1, 1-1-1 Pac-12)
Edwards Stadium – Berkeley
Series Record with the Trojans: 5-10-1
Last Meeting: L, 5-4 in Los Angeles (Oct. 10, 2010)
BERKELEY – The No. 18 California women’s soccer team returns home to Edwards Stadium, where it hasn’t played since a victory over Arizona State on Sept. 23, this weekend. The Golden Bears host No. 2 UCLA on Friday at 4 p.m. and face USC on Sunday at 1 p.m. in Berkeley.
Cal in the National Rankings
California is ranked No. 18 in the latest TopDrawerSoccer.com national poll released this week. The Bears are also receiving votes in the National Soccer Coaches Association (NSCAA), Soccer America and Soccer Times polls. Call climbed as high as No. 11 in the national rankings (TopDrawerSoccer.com) during the week of Sept. 19-25.
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MWP heads to LA:
BERKELEY -
Fri., Oct. 7 at UCLA, Spieker Aquatics Center Los Angeles, Calif. 7 p.m.
Sat., Oct. 8 at Long Beach State, Campus Pool Long Beach, Calif. 2 p.m.
Sun., Oct. 9 at UC San Diego, Canyonview Aquatic Center San Diego, Calif. 12 p.m.
Bear Bites:
No. 2-ranked Cal (11-2), the 2010 national runners-up and featuring National Player of the Year Ivan Rackov, begins Mountain Pacific Sports Federation play this week as the Golden Bears travel to No. 3 UCLA Friday (Oct. 7) and No. 14 Long Beach State Saturday (Oct. 8) for league matches. Cal then competes at No. 9 UC San Diego Sunday (Oct. 9) in a non-league contest. The Bears should have a battle on their hands against the Bruins as the teams have split their two matches this season with Cal losing 6-5 at the NorCal Invitational, but winning, 8-4, last weekend. The Bears moved up a notch in the national rankings after reaching the finals of last week’s SoCal Invitational, defeating Santa Clara (16-8), Pacific (11-9) and previously No. 2 UCLA (8-4), before falling to Stanford, 10-9 in overtime in the title match. Cal has outscored its opponents, 172-71, this season and leads the MPSF with 13.23 goals per game. Defensively, the Bears are second in the league with 5.46 goals per game. On Sept. 5 Rackov became this season’s first MPSF Player of the Week after tallying 12 goals with eight steals and seven assists in Cal’s Sept. 3 home victories over UC Davis and Santa Clara. Along with Rackov, the Bears return four other All-Americans from the 2010 national runner-up squad that finished 24-4 overall and a perfect 8-0 in the Mountain Pacific Sports Federation – seniors Cory Nasoff, Charlie Steffens and Luka Saponjic, and junior goalie Justin Parsons. Cal also welcomes in junior Ayal Keren, a 6-2 utility player from Tivon, Israel who was the California Junior College Player of the Year at Diablo Valley College, and 6-3 freshman attacker Aleksa Saponjic, who joined brother Luka on the Serbian National Team that won the gold medal at the 2011 World University Games in Shenzen, China.
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VBall has 2 matches up in Oregon:
Friday, Oct. 7
7 p.m. – No. 4 Cal (15-2, 5-2 Pac-12) at No. 15 Oregon (12-2, 5-1 Pac-12)
Matt Arena – Eugene, Ore.
Series Record vs. the Ducks: 49-15
Last Meeting: W, 3-0 (10/30/10)
Coverage: GameTracker, Twitter, Video
Sunday, Oct. 9
1 p.m. – No. 4 Cal (15-2, 5-2 Pac-12) at Oregon State (11-5, 3-3 Pac-12)
Gill Coliseum – Corvallis, Ore.
Series Record vs. the Beavers: 41-17
Last Meeting: W, 3-0 (10/29/10)
Coverage: GameTracker, Twitter, Free Video
BERKELEY – The No. 4 California volleyball team takes to the friendly skies for this week’s outing – flying north to Oregon. On Oct. 7, the Golden Bears (15-2, 5-2 in the Pac-12) will face off against the No. 15 Ducks of Oregon (12-2, 5-1 Pac-12) in Eugene at 7 p.m. In their first Sunday match of the season, Cal plays Oregon State (11-5, 3-3) on Oct. 9 at 1 p.m. in Corvallis before returning home.
Briefly With the Bears
•After dropping its first two road Pac-12 matches last weekend, Cal returned in grand fashion with a 3-0 sweep of Arizona and a 3-1 victory over Arizona State
•With the two wins last weekend, the Bears upped their overall hitting percentage from .290 to .296 and jumped their conference attack from .246 to .272
•Christina Higgins is the reigning Pac-12 Freshman of the Week
•The Bears have beaten the Ducks in 21 of the 24 most recent meetings with the Ducks
•Cal has won 15 of the past 16 meetings with Oregon State
•Thanks to the two wins at home last weekend, the Bears are a perfect 12-0 at Haas Pavilion
•Cal is 1-2 on the road and 3-2 in road and neutral-site games combined
•Oregon, which is ranked 15th in the country, is the fourth ranked opponent of the year for the Bears
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WBB practices officially starts:
The California Golden Bear women’s basketball team held the first official practice of the 2011-12 season on Wednesday, Oct. 5.
The players had been conditioning and training as well as doing skill work and playing in open gym time since returning to campus in August, but October 5 was the first official practice of the season as the team gets ready for the 2011-12 season opener Nov. 13 at Rutgers.
All Cal practices are closed. However, the Bears will be opening up the doors of Haas Pavilion to fans on Saturday, Oct. 15. The Bears will be holding a normal practice from 12-2:30. Fans are invited to come in and watch the practice, getting an insiders view of the preparations that go into building a team. The Open Practice is free and all are welcome to attend!
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NinersNation talks DLine:
Yesterday afternoon, nose tackle Isaac Sopoaga made an unexpected appearance in the 49ers injury report with an unnamed infection. Matt Barrows did some digging and learned from “a source with knowledge of the situation” that Sopoaga has a staph infection. Sopoaga did not practice on Wednesday and is looking questionable for Sunday against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
It is my understanding that staph infections can vary in severity, which makes it hard to know how much time Sopoaga will miss. Wide receiver Josh Morgan suffered a staph infection during the preseason of his rookie year and missed two preseason games and the regular season opener. Bucs tight end Kellen Winslow suffered a staph infection in 2008 (during a rash of Browns staph infections) and missed one game (with a bye before that game).
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MRSA…or even worse…VRSA!!!
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
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they're antibiotic resistant staph infections
Methicillin Resistant Staphylococcus aureus
Vancomycin Resistant Staphylococcus aureus (this would suck and you could really die)
Moral of the story: try your hardes to avoid antibiotics for as long as you can. Folks are claiming these ethanol hand sanis and antibiotic hand soaps aren’t helping bacterial strains from becoming more and more badass.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
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I have to use that stuff 50+ times a day…I guess I’m sorta screwed when the super-bug breaks out. But on the plus side, I won’t have to worry about the post-apocalyptic zombies!
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Hand sanitizer/antibiotic hand soap?
Or antibiotics? Are you a walking petri dish?!?!?!?!??!
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big prob in primary care are patients coming in with the sniffles and requesting freaking azithromyocin (Z-Pak) even though a good chunk, perhaps even the majority, are viral-based and thus the Z-Pak is frivolous.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Soaps aren’t actually antibiotic, though, they’re antibacterial… Or is that not a meaningful distinction?
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
same shiz.
Number one fan of Justin Bieber being the number one fan of the Dodgers, and not the [2010 World Series Champion] Giants.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
you are correct sir. Same effect tho (getting bacteria to “overcome and rise up”)
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SilverAndBlackPride is talking Raiders prospects:
The Nation knows what Raider.org either does not or refuses to admit. We need real Linebackers and not converted DEs, swift footed knuckleheads, or freelancers lacking football instincts. For those just emerging from hibernation, you haven’t missed much defensively, the Raiders still rank 29th against the rush … just as we have the past several years.
I now present a viable Linebacker to help us stop the rush (and end the embarrassment) which, btw, is what a true Bully Team does – at the very least – stop the rush. Here’s video of Luke
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FearTheFin talks Hockey Prospectus:
Recently, Plank and I were given a copy of Hockey Prospectus to peruse, abuse, and revuse. Review.
When I downloaded the book, I immediately flipped to the Sharks section. Initially, that’s what I believed what would be useful to me, as a Sharks fan and someone who covers the team.
I was very surprised by the detail that the authors took for San Jose, spending time pouring over every stat possible for the team. Did you know that the Sharks have the worst playoff save percentage of any team (with a minimum of four series appearances) in recent NHL history? They do: through 13 playoff series, San Jose has posted a league worst .906 save percentage. Although Niemi wasn’t great this past offseason, this stat from Hockey Prospectus quickly sheds some light on why Doug Wilson was willing to let Evgeni Nabokov walk and let Niemi take the reigns.
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a lot of that was the defense, too. Now I’m hoping they’ve shored up their blueline. The sharkies have made Wayne Gretzkys out of Chris Pronger, Pavel Datsuk, and many others.
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I also hope they shore up their blueline. But what is happening with their goldline? Concerned fans need to know!
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Cards beat Phils force Game 5:
Chase Utley might be my favorite non-Cardinal. I’ve probably mentioned this before. What I like about Utley is that he’s good at everything you can do on a baseball diamond—he’s a high-average hitter with a good eye and thirty-home-run power; he plays a rangy, effortless second base. He rarely grounds into the double play, he gets hit by a ton of pitches, and when he chooses to steal a base he’s successful almost ninety percent of the time.
Albert Pujols does all those things, but with Albert Pujols you can see the gears turning; lately, as he limps from base to base, you can just about hear them. His famous swing and his heads-up defense both come out of a tense, angry-looking pounce, and after he’s finished with either one you can watch him unselfconsciously wince and take inventory of his limbs, like a pinball machine self-testing after the lights come back on.
Chase Utley made an Albert Pujols decision Wednesday night—he got a great jump on Edwin Jackson, which isn’t hard to do, and then he rounded second on a groundball to Rafael Furcal and broke for third base. But then Albert Pujols made an Albert Pujols decision; he didn’t just catch Utley running, he gave up the out at first like it had never existed, caught Furcal’s throw on a little jog-step like the play had been drawn up that way, and threw the ball at David Freese like he’d never been moved off third base because of how shredded his arm was. Utley took a hard tag to his face, realized the jig was up, and walked quietly off the field. The camera was still focusing on Freese flipping the ball out of his glove, trying to act casual, so I can’t be sure, but Pujols probably winced.
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I guess I’m rooting for the Brewers by default, because the other NL teams are so un-supportable.
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What about the Phillies? They are VERY supportable! I support them right now
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Meh, I don’t hate the Phils like I do the Cards, but it’s hard to get excited about a team that has won the WS recently and is supported by Philly sports fans.
So I guess I’m rooting for, in order of preference:
1. Brewers
2. Tigers
3. Phillies
4. Rangers
5. Diamondbacks
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6. Cardinals
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7. Yankees
I actually had the Rays pretty high up,
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I like Maddon a lot. I wish he could come and manage the Dodgers or A’s.
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Phillies are like 2 for 130. They could use any help they could get.
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DBacks win, force Game 5:
Two days ago, Arizona was done. Dead. Gone. History. An absolute afterthought of the post-season, lost amid a frenzy of coverage on the Yankees, Matt Moore, Sabathia vs. Verlander, the indestructible Phillies rotation, and Beast Mode. 48 hours later, Arizona has evened their series against the Brewers at two games apiece and will head back to Milwaukee for Game Five after scoring 18 runs in their offense’s last 16 innings. See how the magic happened after the break. Oh, yeah, I almost forgot……….
I’M GOING BACK TO MILWAUKEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Things didn’t start off particularly well for Saunders, beginning with a one-out single from the ever-pesky Jerry Hairston after Saunders K’d Corey Hart to lead off the game. Ryan Braun came up to the plate and did what he’s basically been doing all aggravating series long, absolutely demolishing a ball to the left-center field wall for an RBI double. Braun stole third while Prince Fielder was being “unintentionally” walked, but the hobbling Rickie Weeks came up with the lead-footed Fielder at first base. Sure enough, Weeks shot a ground ball to Ryan Roberts who started a double play that barely nabbed Weeks at first – I imagine Weeks would have easily beat the throw if he were full-health, but I certainly wasn’t complaining. Keeping Braun from scoring after a one-out double was certainly an impressive feat by Joe, and he gained instant approval points by pitching around Fielder. Not the greatest start to the game, but it was still a close game.
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I love Madison and Chicago, but the rest of the Illinois and Wisconsin I can really do without.
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--Coach Clark
FYI
There’s quality talent on campus at Urbana-Champaign
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Quality talent at what? Concert piano? Juggling?
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Ask carp. I think he might know what I mean.
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So, it’s definitely juggling then
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And maybe engineering. They haz a nice engineering building there.
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Milwaukee’s really not a bad town. Green Bay is kinda podunk and boring but there’s nothing truly terrible about it.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Brett Favre
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Number one fan of Justin Bieber being the number one fan of the Dodgers, and not the [2010 World Series Champion] Giants.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Why? Are you a big fan of that guy, Spazzy?
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m a fan of Rishi saying Brett Favre is a truly terrible thing…
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s from Mississippi.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks, Atoms. Thank you so much! You have made this thread so much more entertaining and humorous.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Spazzy was surprised atoms did not lead the DBD to hilarity sooner. "He just kind of fell into a good situation." Spazzy said he could see the comical situation atoms inherited was quite mirthful and the biggest surprise was that atoms didn’t get laughs sooner.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
it’s also not really a good town, either. Miller Park was “meh” for a new park and the Bucks game I went to was like going to a USC game.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Great beer culture, though.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
A Bulls-Bucks Match-up
Is usually good fun as the stadium is filled with red. Much like Stanford stadium turns blue against the Bears.
I support the NBA player's union.
I have learned the hard lesson over the past several years that the fans and the team have no control of or responsibility for who is allowed to purchase the team. Nobody in LA wanted McCourt, yet we got him all the same.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Selig is baseball’s problem, not just Milwaukee’s problem.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Meanwhile
Fuck the entire state of Arizona.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Arizona is beautiful!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, the land is. I don’t have anything against the natural environment of Arizona.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Arizona would like to see your papers, Atoms. You don’t look American.
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Sure I do. I dress badly and I’m out of shape.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m going to Tucson in a month…
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
my wife’s project has her next to the asu campus during the week. i’m tempted to go, sit out side for awhile, go play some golf, go back to watching the asu population pass by.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
hit the clubs up! shocker style!
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
...shocker style?
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
heh, i’m sure her corporate overlords are on board with that…. :)
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actually the phoenician is waaaaaay overrate for my money. The Ritz is really nice… The aloft is a great little place though. I like it
we’ve enjoyed the few times we’ve stayed at a ritz. they’re usually never the wrong answer.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
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that’s a particularly nice one… expecially in the winter when it gets cold at night and you have a fire going in the room…
nice touch.
I like the Half Moon Bay one. Nice golf course :)
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I have not stayed at a lot of Ritzs. St Regis is my preferred upscale brand of choice… and they never ever let me down.
and no, i won’t post pictures
You are all welcome.
The St Regis in Mexico City is fantastic.
Not that I stayed there, but their bar was awesome and had a cool balcony overlooking Mexico City
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I avoid Mexico like the plague.
I’ve stayed at about a dozen St Regis’s and they’ve all been ridiculously awesome.
Wow, that’s stunning.
I wonder what sort of psychological effect do purplish colors have on us? I’ve seen it being used more and more lately—for example, Virgin American and their in-plane lighting.
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i’ve been fortunate to stay at some pretty cool places in my day… as a rule the W brand is a fun brand with cool places…. I’m not sure what i would consider the coolest place I’ve stayed… I do have to say that the Copacabana Palace is right up there … [warning, here comes a name drop] last time I was there my friend and I were laying out by the pool when a guy and his wife ask if anyone is in the chairs next to us… turns out it’s Sting and Mr. Sting… was kind of cool (and a little distracting)
Nicest hotel I’ve stayed at was the Taj Resort in Goa, India (where YWC is from and a really nice beach town).
Had its own private beach and we stayed in what amounted to small beachhouses. And there were plenty of Indian celebrities that we saw there (took a photo with one).
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SRK?
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Hes no SRK!
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so am I doing something wrong (WHERE IT PERTAINS TO THIS) that I only see a sliver of the photos when they get this far along in a subthread?
Yeah, when that happens and I want to see the photo, I just right click on it, copy the image location, and then paste it into a new browser tab.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I didn’t do that for him.
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Garrett Gilbert will transfer
Gale’s son says bye bye to Texas
Gilbert was given an unconditional release from his scholarship to find another school. In a statement released Wednesday, Gilbert did not say where he planned to go, but indicated he has visited several schools and will visit more while finishing this semester at Texas.
Gilbert said he talked to coach Mack Brown and the staff and decided “it is in my best interest to transfer. I can’t thank all of my teammates and everyone at Texas enough for all of their support, but I just think I’m at a point in my life where I need a fresh start.”
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Coming to Cal?
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For the football team?
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I doubt it.
He wouldn’t be eligible until 2013. I suppose whether we want him depends on what the staff thinks of Bridgford/Hinder/Kline.
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He's leaving for the chuck & duck of SMU
Because he’s been really good at throwing the football………….
Exclusive footage of Garret Gilbert practicing his accuracy (at 1:10)
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The more I read about Steve Jobs, the more surprised I am. I never knew he was adopted. I never knew he fathered a daughter out of wedlock and spent years denying her paternity (even at one point apparently claiming under oath that he was infertile and couldnt have kids). I’m always interested in learning more about the “lionized” amongst us. People with amazing ideas and clear visions are still people, with all the same human flaws as those we’d see on Jerry Springer.
Further, what was Jobs’ role in Apple the last 10 years or so during this golden era. Is he sitting in a room designing products? Or is he receiving a variety of designed prototypes and then making decisions about how to move them forward to a workable product? I think its more the latter and have wondered who are the inventors here. Those people intrigue me. Its kinda how Edison is credited with inventing all of these things when they basically came out of his lab, but were invented by others. This is not to denigrate Jobs or anything, clearly his role (no matter how ti was defined) was of the greatest importance. I’m just intrigued.
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Thank you, Twist, I didn’t know those things either.
This is interesting not to point-fingers, and say how the mighty-have-fallen, but to learn and build a more nuanced picture of a man I respect. That information is can only enhance my understanding of the man and his history.
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He was half-Syrian:
Abdul Fattah Jandali, a young Syrian Muslim immigrant in Wisconsin, never met his son Steve Jobs. When a baby was born to the 23-year-old Jandali — now known as John — and his 23-year-old German-American girlfriend, Joanne Schieble, in 1955, there was no chance he’d be able to grow up with his biological parents.
Joanne, who belonged to a white, conservative Christian family could not convince her parents to marry an Arab, a Muslim, according to Jandali, who called her father "a tyrant" in a New York Post interview in August 2011. In fact, according to Jandali, she secreted off from Wisconsin to liberal San Francisco to sort out the birth and adoption without letting either him or her parents know.
And so it was that a nameless Arab American baby was adopted by an Armenian American family. Clara Hagopian and her husband Paul Jobs had been married around seven years and had not been able to conceive. The little bundle that would be Steve, was very much wanted in the Jobs household.
Steve Paul Jobs, as they named him, grew up without ever knowing his biological father. It seems he had no interest in knowing him later in life, either. When, in August 2011, the London tabloid The Sun, contacted Jandali, he publicly reached out to Steve saying, ""I live in hope that before it is too late he will reach out to me. Even to have just one coffee with him just once would make me a very happy man."
But Steve never replied. Less than two months later, he has passed away.
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Steve Jobs’ daughter:
However, it took two years before Jobs would acknowledge that Lisa was his child, going so far as to swear in a court document that he was “sterile and infertile, and as a result thereof, did not have the physical capacity to procreate a child.” While Jobs reaped the rewards of owning a burgeoning technology company, his baby and her artist mother subsisted on welfare.
Now 32, Lisa is a journalist and magazine writer with credits including The Southwest Review, The Massachusetts Review, Spiked, and O, The Oprah Magazine. She also writes essays for her personal blog. In an article for the February 2008 issue of Vogue called “Tuscan Holiday,” she touched on her "illegitimate" childhood growing up with her mother
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Wow
going so far as to swear in a court document that he was "sterile and infertile, and as a result thereof, did not have the physical capacity to procreate a child."
As Cris Carter says on Monday Night Countdown:
C’MON, MAN!
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Anderson Cooper interviewed Steve Wozniak over the phone on CNN last night. He attempted to draw parallels between Edison and Jobs but Wozniak corrected him stating that Jobs was not as ‘hands-on’ like Edison was in inventing gizmos. He claimed Jobs used his leadership/creativity to influence products that would fit his vision of how humans would be using his technology.
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My question is what does “using leadership to influence products” look like? That’s an interesting question to me.
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One of the mantras for starting your own tech company is not to go from zero-perfect, because that is impossible, but to simply go from ‘Suck’ to ‘Not Suck’. Many minor improvements instead of hoping for big leaps of inspriration.
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but to simply go from ‘Suck’ to ‘Not Suck’.
Woo-hoo! That’s how I do orthodontics!!!
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A significant segment of my patient population is comprised of teenage girls. I’m orthodonting to survive.
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Nice to see you, Miss Anderson. If you could just put this burka on please….
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I was thinking more in terms of emo outbursts, actually.
But, yes…inappropriate clothing choices do makes things interesting from time to time.
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“Orthodonting” is a great word.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
You’re going to get drunk and fornicate with frat boys?
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Steve Jobs: A big part of the reason why Americans spend 90% of their waking hours looking at glowing rectangles.
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Fact I just read but can't verify:
38% of Affluent Executives use an iPhone.
Thank you TV in the elevator.
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srsly question: are there any executives that are not affluent?
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what about executive assistants?
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Executive Associates from WalMart
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Only 38%? I wonder how that compares with Blackberry usage.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Way less.
I wonder if they’re double-counting. My boss has a work Blackberry and a personal iPhone.
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I think you’re right that it’s way less, but it’s probably not just having two phones – I mean, I do that, and I am not an executive.
Apparently there’s two forces for inclusion of iPhone for corporate mail and calendaring – the scrubs, and the executives. The speed of decision / deployment increases exponentially when management gets involved because they decide they’ve got a new toy… but bottom up tends to help when people are essentially saying “please let me access my work data on my own nickel.”
Anecdotally, I hear that a lot of senior types tend to want to do a two-fer and use an iPad to replace a laptop and a blackberry, since they can do the majority of their stuff on a iPad as they shuffle around from meeting to meeting.
Also, after a certain point, it’s just cheaper to not use Blackberry servers.
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I have just moved from a TV in the elevator building to a building with media-less elevators. I feel significantly less well informed re: factoids like that.
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TV in the Elevator would be a funny band name.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting alternative perspective from an Economist commenter....
A great quote from Slashdot: “From the fall of AOL to the rise of iComputing, we had a 12 year golden age where walled gardens were derided, people owned their own devices, and the landscape of the internet formed more or less naturally.”
RIP, Steve, but as much of a visionary as you were, I hope that your passing away will contribute to giving us back the openness in computing, that same openness that you did so much to destroy.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I do fundamentally dislike this aspect of the iWorld… It is unfortunate that plugging the iPhone in incorrectly can stop you from accessing your own data.
I don’t see that changing.
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How do you plug in iPHone incorrectly? Put one end of cord in only iPhone slot, put other end of cord into computer — computer opens iTunes… I don’t see the difficulty.
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If you dont “eject” the iPhone or iPod before removing the actual device from the cord, sometimes it freezes everything up.
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I have. I HAVE, CUGEL! WHY MUST YOU DENY MY EMOTIONS!!!
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I have a Pantech iPod!
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No, I dont own an apple computer. I havent owned one since the Apple 2e
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i'm doing it rong?

http://lifehacker.com/5847279/how-to-plug-in-a-usb-cable-correctly-every-time
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My understanding is that future iPhones etc will be wireless. So, that might change.
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They already have bluetooth built in. Not sure why phones can’t sync wirelessly yet.
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I don’t think the quote is meant to refer to solely the plug. More the entire idea of separate interfaces. To be honest, I’m not sure I agree with the quoter, but I can see where he’s coming from.
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*the quotee.
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Ragnarok asked me yesterday what I disliked about where Jobs has taken the PC market. Well this comment explains it. I do not like the idea of a walled garden ecosystem.
In other words, Go Bears!
Counterpoint: I just want software to work. The advantage to an end user of the Apple approach is that everything works. I don’t have to arse about trying to get drivers to work, apps to work, whatever. In OSX, I can get to the settings I need to. My iPhone and iPad just work.
It’s not that I can’t tinker if need be: it’s just not what I want to spend my time doing.
And besides, it’s not like there isn’t an alternative for people who want to maximum control / access in the form of linux. Why get annoyed at Apple for articulating an approach to software and following through when no-one is forcing you to use it?
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Our sentiments exactly. We like institutional control on our phone, provided it does everything we want it to do. And it does. YouPorn and Spankwire load up just like that. That’s all we need. Plus Twitter. And FB for work since they blocked it.
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i draw the line at poonews.
i don’t ever want to put my phone next to my face after poonews.
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i hate how there’s no mobileapp for ratemypoo.com! do not visit this site at work.
Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
i hate how there’s no mobileapp for ratemypoo.com! do not visit this site at work. EVAR
WE ARE ZOONEWS
peepee toejam is an exemplary example of the people i referenced in the post i just mad in yesterday’s DBD
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What I mean by closed garden is that there is no option at all. You are forced to be simplified and stuck in the garden. I have no option to use another repo if I wanted to.
And I also hate the whole “simplify all things” thing that’s going on but that’s just me being irrational. My complaint of removing options for advanced usage is valid
In other words, Go Bears!
no option to use another repo if I wanted to.
Explain more please.
I also hate the whole "simplify all things" thing that’s going on but that’s just me being irrational
I don’t think so – it’s a preference. When I first got my missus migrated over to her iMac a couple of years ago I was a bit grouchy about trying to figure out how to complete settings, and one of my long term projects is to get all pictures out of the basic Apple pictures application because I don’t like sealed databases… But I only want to do that sort of thing when it’s truly helpful, like when I’m trying to release IP addresses at the customer site. My days of manually editing .jar files for preferences in 0.x versions of Firefox are long gone.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
Repository. Never mind, it’s a stupid linux term. But generally speaking, it’s an option to install apps for a system (like iPhone) from a source other than the default (Apple) one.
I’m not saying I want to edit .jar files or .ini files. I’m just fine editing options via menus. I don’t want to lose the option to edit those options (in any way) and to be forced into using it “the one way”.
In other words, Go Bears!
I think you are viewing it from an expert’s poitn of view. To you, it makes total sense to give control to the consumer. Because the consumer is smart.
But the reality is the consumer is dumb. Were not smart when it comes to technology. And people get frustrated by technology. They will gravitate to idiot proof.
So, it is in the business’s best interest to focus on idiot proof as much as possible. Walled garden allows for Apple to be in controla t al times and ensure that their products are as idiot proof (and thus buyable) as possible.
They might be pissing off the 1% of people who know waht the fuck they are doing, but they are getting the 90% of people who have NO clue!
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WHO YOU CALLIN DUMB? I HAZ A IPHONE AND I KNOW HOW TO TWAT.
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I, in specific, was calling you dumb, ikoolykedat. Just to be clear.
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I would like to respond in kind but I don’t want to be the cause of another sub thread deletion.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
Can I just specify that for the record I was not actually offended, at all, and that I was 100% joking, and also that I am … um….
…well I had a bris, let me put it that way.
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I only found this out after I asked them to delete the thread! But anyhow, glad you were not actually offended.
…You asked us to delete the thread??
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
What was premature?? I’m fairly sure it was you who did it. If she sent an email to the Hit Squad though, I didn’t see it.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
HIT SQUAD FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!
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Hi atoms!
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It would be better to discuss any issues offline via email than on the boards.
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IM NOT ATOMS! I AM VERY OFFENDED!
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Note: found out you were not offended, not the state of, er, things. Though I assumed, you being Jewish and all. And now we can return to my general state of thinking that nobody on this blog has any sexual organs whatsoever.
Technically, do moobs count as sexual organs?
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
…I wouldn’t know.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
the answer is yes.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=strange-but-true-males-can-lactate
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WE ARE THE 99%! WE WANT DUMBER iPHONE APPS WALL STREET YOU FUCKING CORPORATE PIGS! MAKE APPS DUMBER!
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Rishi doesn’t think you reflect the views of all 99%. Only 98.9%.
So, he totallya and completely rejects your views!
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I’m not saying that everyone should be forced to go the expert path and make customizations or anything. All I’m asking for is the option to do what I want to do. If you don’t want to make modifications, that’s fine. You can get the idiot proof product. But I want to be able to change all the settings, even if it is incontinent to get to.
In other words, Go Bears!
even if it is incontinent to get to.
Remind me never to use your bathroom
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The wall keeps the riff-raff out for the users and also protects the corporation’s income stream. You want no wall, but you have no solution for the riff-raff and no concern for the corporation’s income stream. So what you are asking for is not really viable in this product. So get another product. And have fun investigating each download and tinkering with the security settings and SHIT MY FONE CRASHED
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…and yet PCs have 90% of the market and Apple is a niche 10%.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Can 99% of people occupy infinity?
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What % of that is for offices?
Further, I was talking about the MP3 players, the smart phone, and tablet market.
What is apple’s share there, atoms?
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I’m sure the percentage is actually much higher than 90% PC for offices.
And yeah, Apple does much better in the consumer electronics market, but the root of royrules’ complaint was their approach to personal computing.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps I misunderstod, then. I was looking at ovearll
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Walled garden allows for Apple to be in controla t al times and ensure that their products are as idiot proof (and thus buyable) as possible.
I’d disagree with this as the purpose of Apple’s “wall”… it has more to do with generating a competitive advantage by ensuring their product is differentiated from the competition. Adobe Flash wasn’t blocked because it “wasn’t safe,”, Adobe Flash was blocked because it was obvious that developers were going to build stuff for the iPhone first, which makes the product a bit more special.
Isnt that what I said?
By making their products as BASIC as possible, it creates a competative advantage? I dont see how you are disagreeing with me.
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I’m disagreeing with you as to “why”… it’s not to make it easy, it’s to make it special… Consumer apps get released first for iPhone, and then months/years later, Droid. This makes me want to buy an iPhone sooner, because when all my friends are playing that cool new game that’s only on the iPhone, I’ll be “not with it.”
This gap has shrunk considerably, btw, and the market dynamics are changing.
But easy is special. For people generally too stupid or lazy, easy=special. Most things seem confusing. Easy is not confusing. Thus, special.
WE AGREE GODDAMIT!
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That has nothing to do with a lot of their closed-system-ness, though. That’s the point I’m trying to make. Well it’s part of it. We’ll agree to partially agree.
I DONT AGREE TO THAT AT ALL!!!!
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I recognize that you want that option of customization. I think there’s a market for both types of usages and it doesn’t make one better than the other—just more suited for each group.
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And my fear is that my market group is being marginalized and that soon it will be non-existent. Everything I’ve seen is pointing towards a move towards what I don’t want
In other words, Go Bears!
There is an option… use a Droid. Or a PC. Or Linux. There are options, but consumers have indicated what’s important to them, and it’s not the concern about any closed garden. I think for those 12 years we kinda forgot who the customer actually was.
YOU FORGOTA GBOUT ME?!?!
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There's one other thing that people forget
He was not philanthropic at all. In fact when he came back to Apple he shut down Apple’s philanthropic wing.
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Why Are All the Main Words in That Sentence Capitalized?
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I’ve had people tell me he was a serious dick to his minions in the hallways too. Not a guy you wanted to ride an elevator with.
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by Fire Starkey on Oct 6, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that was a ‘yup’ as in ‘I have also heard these rumors’ as opposed to ‘yep, he was totally a dick to me in an elevatory’
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
So, who has been a dick to you in an elevator?
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I saw him while having lunch at Apple HQ there a couple years ago.
All I remember is that he looked really, really, really skinny.
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[(in real life he was a complete fucking asshole, everyone knows it but they don’t wanna say so b/c he just died. shhhh this is in parenthesis brackets so no one else can read/hear)]
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i actually felt like a dick typing that because I do othink when someone dies we should look at the positive they did.
i can’t wait for obama to die so that you have to love him!
note: i do not actually want mr. obama to die
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or for me to love him.
it’s funny, i don’t think i’ve ever said anything personally derogatory about the president or have been particularly harsh in my criticism of him… it’s just that if some of us say anything critical, we must hate him…
i’m of the sentiment that if you are critical of mr. obama then you should probably be even more critical of his predecessor.
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everyone’s a little bit racist. but the UC system shouldn’t be, since it’s not an individual
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i don’t think that being a registered voter guarantees sentience
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Yeah, I’ve definitely been called racist for not voting for Obama before.
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you could be called racist by anyone for any decision if they choose to assume everything is related to race. it’s obnoxious!
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see, being peopleist is fine, since everyone is a person except for dolphins
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Dolphins are smarter than people. We saw them jumping at SeaWorld for our amusement last weekend.
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it’s amazing how smart they are. i went over to californiadolphinblogs.com the other day and they’re discovering shit we can only dream of.
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I mostly dream of cheese.
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I mostly dream of horrible things that make no sense. Like getting handed a history test, and wandering through a field for hours, searching for a pencil to take the test, as time runs out….
I’ve had an iteration of that dream so many times.
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I hate having dreams where I’m still in college, and then somehow realise I haven’t gone to class all semester or do anything and now am in danger of failing.
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california DOLPHIN blogs. COM
everyone must see this.
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not for long, since as I learned on here people are having sex with dolphins… so soon we’ll have humphins.
dude go read it, it’s confusing and slightly disturbing, but it is a meme you need to be familiar with
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but his predecessor is no longer president.
i am less inclined to be upset with president obama than some of those who enabled him to be president in the first place.
WHAT DID I EVER DO TO YOU!?!?1
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Sounds like SOMEBODY doesn’t want to write a post for next week!
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You might want to do that BEFORE listing al the things that Ive done to piss you off.
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Sarah McCain?
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Sarhn Bernincon?
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A complete fucking asshole?We’ve heard good things about him from people that knew him thru community functions. Maybe he was just a human being with quirks, flaws, talents and shortcomings and it’s not for us to judge. BOOM ZEN’D
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by zoonews on Oct 6, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
From The Atlantic’s Article “”http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/10/in-praise-of-bad-steve/246242/" target="new">In praise of Bad Steve" -
When engineers working on the very first iPod completed the prototype, they presented their work to Steve Jobs for his approval. Jobs played with the device, scrutinized it, weighed it in his hands, and promptly rejected it. It was too big.
The engineers explained that they had to reinvent inventing to create the iPod, and that it was simply impossible to make it any smaller. Jobs was quiet for a moment. Finally he stood, walked over to an aquarium, and dropped the iPod in the tank. After it touched bottom, bubbles floated to the top.
“Those are air bubbles,” he snapped. “That means there’s space in there. Make it smaller.”
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/10/in-praise-of-bad-steve/246242/
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Meter? Do you really need to exaggerate that much?
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
I always make sure to keep an aquarium handy for just that purpose.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Gary Patterson mad
Could be vintage, but I just saw it.
He goes off and basically says F U SMU
On Tuesday the Iron Skillet rivalry got some extra sizzle when Patterson said he is ending whatever civil relationship the two programs share after he felt disrespected by postgame comments from SMU coach June Jones and a Mustangs player.
Patterson, 9-2 against SMU as head coach, said he took note of a Jones comment saying that TCU hasn’t changed much over the years, which Patterson seemed to interpret to mean his team is easy to game plan for. Patterson also took exception to wide receiver Darius Johnson saying, “I don’t like these TCU people.”
Patterson began a rant on SMU by noting Jones has won one game against Patterson’s Frogs during his time at SMU, and prior to that, at Hawaii.
“He hasn’t changed much either, so if we want to get into those kinds of matches. But, I don’t go there,” Patterson said. “All we’ve ever tried to do here at TCU is help SMU. At some point in time we were going to get beat by them, so we got beat by them. We’ve helped them, let them come over and talked to them about how we do things academically, how we do things at the stadium, how we do everything to try to make their program better and their way of thanking us for that is to cut us down.”
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Patterson's a dick of the biggest sort
He also lacks a certain element of self-control, apparently. It seems that June Jones got under Patterson’s skin with his comments.
Maybe Patterson should shut the fuck up and take Jone’s comments as a warning that he might be getting too predictable.
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"Winning is not everything. It is far better to play the game squarely and lose than to win at the sacrifice of an ideal."
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Speaking of TCU
They’ve finally be invited to the Big 12
Big 12 presidents and chancellors voted Thursday morning to invite TCU as the league’s 10th member, two sources close to Texas told the American-Statesman. The deal should be finalized in the next few days.
The Big 12 remains unaware of Missouri’s plans, but most Big 12 administrators do not think Missouri has an invite from the SEC or even any assurances that it will get one. The league decided not to wait and was taking immediate action to strengthen the league.
One Big 12 source told me he didn’t think TCU would be liable for big financial damages for leaving the Big East because the Fort Worth school hadn’t yet joined and could make the legal case that it was not the same league that it had agreed to join because Syracuse and Pittsburgh have announced they are headed to the Atlantic Coast Conference.
And so the cannibalization commences...
Whatcha wanna bet that the SEC and the ACC take the best parts and leave the left-overs for anyone desperate enough to want them?
I’m looking at you, Big 12.
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"Winning is not everything. It is far better to play the game squarely and lose than to win at the sacrifice of an ideal."
-- Andrew Latham Smith
And for whatever reason, no one has snatched Boise yet (probably because they’re not good in any other sports)
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also a terrible academic school (not that it would, by itself, stop the process, but it’s certainly a big process)
Deposed (and recently graduated!) #1 Indian
And they’re not aresearchreal school.
Fixed.
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Chris Peterson is from the same area as I am
So I’ll always be a Boise State fan until he leaves to coach Cal.
Patterson, Peterson, and Hawkins are all Davis coaches in prior years, no?
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--Coach Clark
Assistant coaches, yes.
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Well, for Pac-12 yes, but come on, would the SEC or Big East care?
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I thought religious universities were supposed to turn the other cheek.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
They turned the other cheek and the other one hit it.
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Lack of institutional control
In…high school?!? OHIO!
Commissioner Dan Ross said yesterday that expelling Harvest Prep from the OHSAA "was a topic" during the investigation, which lasted approximately seven months.
"The conversation of the death penalty did occur, but as we continued to look at it, we thought we could get the school and athletic department moving in the right direction without having to do that," Ross said.
The charges against Harvest Prep include recruiting, not filing proper paperwork on student-athletes who transfer to the school, and coaches in numerous sports not having proper certification. Harvest Prep was fined $2,500 and must pay approximately $30,000 for the cost of the OHSAA investigation, which was conducted by a private company.
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uh...ok...
Rich Spanish duchess weds for third time at age 85
SEVILLE, Spain (AP) — A wealthy, 85-year-old Spanish duchess considered the world’s most title-laden noble married a civil servant 25 years her junior on Wednesday, shrugging off her children’s qualms and celebrating by kicking off her shoes and dancing flamenco.
FLEET WEEK!!
S.F. Fleet Week to open with Blue Angels flyovers
Highlights:
Fleet Week, the annual event celebrating the military sea services, roars into San Francisco today when the Blue Angels Navy flight team stages a survey flight for its air show beginning at 1 p.m., weather permitting.
…
Thirteen ships, led by the aircraft carrier Carl Vinson and including two U.S. Coast Guard cutters and four Canadian navy ships, will be in the floating parade under the Golden Gate Bridge and along the San Francisco waterfront on Saturday.
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More recently, the Vinson had a brush with history – the remains of Osama bin Laden were flown to the Vinson and cast into the Persian Gulf in May when the ship was stationed in the Middle East.
Also includes events open to public.
Today: 1 to 4 p.m.: Blue Angels arrive and do a survey flight over the city from about 1 to 4 p.m.
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US Navy: Sorry ’bout Alameda, Richmond, Suisun Bay, and Vallejo!
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and Mountain View (Moffett Field).
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How dare the Soviet sub menace go away and eliminate the need for West Coast based P-3s
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
and Hunter’s Point shipyard, now that I think about it.
They used to run training flights out of Moffett in these gigantic cargo prop planes. They sounded like gigantic metal bumblebees above my house.
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P-3’s aren’t cargo, but still loud.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
I just Google imaged that…that’s what they were. They were large. Large planes are, by definition, cargo planes!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Alameda can’t decide what to do with the old navy base, I think the latest plan is a LBNL lab in. But we’re still famous for having Nuclear Wessles.
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I think they should sever the base from the main island, and put East Oakland on it, with no exits or inlets.
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WILSON!
at least they brought us Tom Hanks even tho he’s somehow a Red Sox fan and I suppose a Michigan fan
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CalTech is best in the 'verse... Berkeley still top Public
[Listings below are world rankings, but only include North American Universities]
1. Caltech
2. Haaaaavard
2. Stanfurd University (tie)
5. Princeton University
7. MIT
9. University of Chicago
10. University of California, Berkeley
11. Yale
12. Columbia
12. UCLA
…..
World Rankings Here, the ones missing are Cambridge & Imperial College London.
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Sounds like they need to rename Yale blue to Berkeley blue because Berkeley > Yale.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Chicago’s a nice school in all, but they don’t belong in that company.
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--Coach Clark
?
Yes they do.
There’s a reason one of the most pre-eminent economic philosophies is named the “Chicago school of economics”
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It worked for Pinochet!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure the Chicago school of economics does not advocate political repressoin…
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I wasn’t even kidding. It totally worked for Pinochet, and the economy benefited as a result! Especially after he was removed from power. Capitalism + autocracy laid the foundations for great success once they transitioned to democracy. (I took History 8B – modern latin America). And now Chile is the most prosperous S. American country.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t disagree with you…
But I also don’t want to come across as an advocate for Pinochet.
Also, I don’t like the “Capitalism + autocracy laying the foundation for great success” line of thought. It’s what justifies modern-day China.
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It’s what people use to justify modern-day China.
Enough people try to make excuses for their totalitarian government with the “oh, it’s working alongside capitalism, eventual transitoin, blah blah blah” and I don’t think it’s an acceptable excuse.
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I wouldn’t see this as a excuse, but you have recognize success when you see it. I’m not advocating anything, but it bugs me when either people on the left (Chile) or the right (China) effectively deny the existence of success stories that don’t fit their worldview.
Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?
And this is what I’m talking about. You should fit your theories around the facts, rather than trying to make the facts conform to your theories.
Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?
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I don’t consider China a success story. I think they’re a bubble due to be popped and I think we’ll look back at all this China fear the same way we look back at Japan fea rin the 90s
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agree 100%.
Most of you (not all of you) don’t know who Walter Shorenstein is. He was a super rich guy. In the 80s he sold the BofA building to the Japanese for something like $1B. A few years later he bought it back for about $500M. (i may be butchering history there, but the “idea” is right)..
I know Walter, familiar with this story. Past success does not blah blah blah….
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did i get that right? i didn’t feel like googling..
that was happening all over America though… probably most famously with Rockefeller Center… and on the West Coast with Pebble Beach.
No story is correct, but whether it predicts anything for China remains to be seen.
Another thing I hate about lefties: the No More Viet Nam war thing, we’ll never have another Viet Nam war, because wars are unique to the countries they’re fought in/over.
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No Joke
Nice work if you can get it. I have a business partner that sold his first business location to RE developer for lots of $, they built a internet hotel, couldn’t run it, sold it back to him 3 years later at 35 cents/ dollar, he held for a few years, sold it to a big outfit out of Seattle – long story short – he made money 3 times on the same property.
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What’s an internet hotel?
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
every time i think i want to be in that business i envision myself as the guy selling for 35 cents on the dollar… I’ve done o.k. on my limited real estate investments… but just the idea of selling a landmark property like the BofA building for $1B(!!!) then buying it back for $500M is amazing to me.
I was with a start-up that ended up getting funding from EOP so met Sam Zell… there’s a character.
sigh
this is what I’m talking about – fear no fear – doesn’t mean anything. Maybe this will happen (bubble) maybe not. Neither you or I can see the future.
But right now in the present, you deny that China is a success story because it doesn’t conform to your worldview.
Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?
You’re predicating this on the thought that China=“success story” is absolute truth.
Which it’s not.
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I'm sorry
I honestly have no idea how you can say that China over the past 30 years is not a “success story”. Is it completely sustainable indefinitely? No, of course there are going to be setbacks, and there are going to be lots of major, major issues that they will have to contend with, from environmental degradation to corruption to the real estate bubble to human rights, among many other things.
But the fact remains that the CCP has achieved huge economic gains, and substantially raised the standard of living for hundreds of millions of people, and you can’t just dismiss that with a wave of the hand. I think they’re in a pretty precarious state where their legitimacy is pretty much tied exclusively to the country’s continued strong economic performance, but so far the trajectory they’ve led the country on has been pretty damn successful, and much of the Chinese people seem pretty willing to make the trade-off between transitioning to democracy and letting the CCP continue to manage the economy for the time being.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I’d go with “the mandate from heaven” as all the emperors have. Worked for 1,000’s of years.
Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?
I suspect that won’t work so well in the modern world anymore, but who knows.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
much of the Chinese people seem pretty willing to make the trade-off between transitioning to democracy
Yeah, because they totally have a choice!
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They have a choice not to revolt. Yeah, there are protests and such, and the government tries suppress dissent, but honestly, if you’ve been there, you’ll know that, at least in the major cities, people are generally satisfied with the economic progress and don’t want to throw the CCP out, not right now anyway.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Protest? In China?

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by Rishi on Oct 6, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t really think this will happen.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
…to my chagrin.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
…to my chagrin.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
heh not lately…I remember reading articles in 2008 about how mild and shallow the recession would be.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but NOBODY did. That’s why the stimulus wasn’t enough to do the trick. Back in December 2008 the BEA calculated economic contraction of 3.8% rate for the 4Q of that year. Well, turns out the economy was actually shrinking at an 8.9% rate that quarter. The recession was just way, way worse than anyone expected.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
And I really appreciated those as opposed to the “The World Is Going To End” headlines that every other newspaper had.
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You don't say....
http://www.economist.com/node/21530986
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And Taiwan, and Singapore, and South Korea. The only so-called Asian Tiger economy that was even nominally democratic when growth took off was Japan.
But there is a qualitative difference between the sort of managed growth you saw in Asia starting in the 60s versus the use of state power in Chile to keep the government out of the economy. Brazil and Argentina had military dictatorships as well, but they tended to use government spending to pacify the population.
I think the thing about Chile is that left to their own devices, most Chileans probably wouldn’t have – indeed, with the election of Allende, didn’t – choose the kind of policies espoused by the Chicago School.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
When, now? Because it’s hard to make the counter argument that say Taiwan or South Korea would have developed the way that they did without formal modernization policies.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
I’m going to say that South Korea wouldn’t have developed the way that we did without formal modernization policies.
I hate to be the guy to defer to The Economist, but…
http://www.economist.com/node/21530984
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One article from the Economist doesn’t override the extensive academic literature comparing the successes in Asia to the failures in Latin America. The point isn’t that they were all winners in South Korea – the point is that the government created conditions that allowed for companies to thrive in a country that had been occupied and then devastated and had very little nascent industry. It’s not easy to make that happen – as Brazil and Argentina, for example demonstrate.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
Okay, but you’re trying to make the case that those failures in Latin America were driven the a lack of governmental intervention in the economy and I really don’t feel like that’s the case.
We’re talking in hypotheticals here about how the South Korean government taking on that active role allowed it to thrive, but what we’re missing is the moral hazard of the situation.
And none of this, of course, is proving that not having democracy was instrumental in their success.
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I don’t think it has anything to with democracy at all, just that government intervention in the economy can be effective, if done right. It can also be a disaster. The world is a varied, complicated place.
Also, democracy is over-rated, civil society is where it’s at.
Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?
I’m not actually making that case at all. The literature is largely about why government intervention did work in the case of the Asian tigers and didn’t work in Latin America.
We’re talking in hypotheticals here about how the South Korean government taking on that active role allowed it to thrive
It’s not hypothetical at all. The intervention is not a point of debate, and the results are not a point of debate. You are suggesting doubt where there is none. If you’re making an argument that the South Korean government was an impediment to growth, that is a counter-factual argument.
And none of this, of course, is proving that not having democracy was instrumental in their success.
It’s no coincidence that countries liberalize as there is an emerging middle class, especially when there is enforcement of property rights. There’s no one-way causal relationship because there is feedback between the private sector and the government.
And, while we’re at it, it’s not like the US or the UK grew as a result of the extent of their democracy. Their growth may have predated anything more sophisticated than the tension between mercantilism and classic free market liberalism, but there was that same evolution of democracy in pace with economic growth, not as a predictor of same.
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by DC Trojan on Oct 6, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec’d
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
It's hypothetical when you say that this growth would not have happened without government intervention
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No, I totally agree 100%, and I don’t agree at all with the idea of either China’s or Pinochet’s system of government.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
the importance of economic philosophies is like the importance of the ACC coastal division
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
That’s not true at all. It’s influenced plenty of policy-makers and that directly impacts us.
The University of Chicago is a fantastic school.
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sure it is, I agree. IMO it’s just not with the other major private and UC schools.
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Sing the Joyful Chorus
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Sound it far and near
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California, alma mater
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Hail! Hail! Hail!
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[second verse, lights off, flashlights beaming to the skyyyyyy!]
"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"
We're not doing Sac State's fight song?
And yes I’m technically talking about the Alma Mater song because our fight song is too closely associated with USC’s fight song.
‘cause my sister’s a UC Davis grad, and I’m contractually obliged to scorn her rival in exchange for her scorning mine?
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FUCK YOU UC DAVIS. They’re not good enough to get into Cal and that’s why they scorn the Golden Bears.
the word on the street is that some feel the pre-health options are better at UCD than UCB.
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--Coach Clark
I mean, they’ve got FNP/PA prorgams, a med school, (almost) a nursing school, a vet school, and a myriad of bio sci majors. Back in the day Cal had like 2 and you had to try and set something up at UCSF Parnasty if you wanted something biomedical/clinical.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
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Err, I’m contractually obliged to hate Sac State, she’s obliged to hate Stanfurd.
Otherwise she does silly things like meet my bus home from college wearing my old Stanfurd shirt from high school.
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flagged!
my old Stanfurd shirt
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
You want to know what’s worse?
The day we took club pictures for the yearbook at school, that’s the shirt I was wearing.
My only defense is that I was young and stupid and thought I wanted to go to Stanfurd.
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Not true!
I /chose/ to go to UC Davis over Cal! (After I was accepted in the Engineering school, but not EECS)
by OaktownAggie on Oct 6, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey, I almost went to UCD over Cal. Granted, at the time I nearly made the decision, one was offering me a scholarship and one wasn’t. :)
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I think it was for the best, but the acceptance/rejection letter from Cal was gold. Something along the lines of:
“Congratulations on being accepted to the University of California School of Engineering. Unfortunately, we don’t have space for you in the EECS program. Want to be a Nuclear Engineer instead? Mechanical? Civil? Any other engineering program but the one that you really wanted. Oh, BTW, don’t accept this offer with the intention of transferring into EECS. Average GPA bla bla bla bla bla.”
by OaktownAggie on Oct 6, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Work=Furd Schaudenfreude
So I’m excited I get to pitch the below story today at work for one of my clients…
Patient Data Landed Online After a Series of Missteps
Private medical data for nearly 20,000 emergency room patients at California’s prestigious Stanford Hospital were exposed to public view for nearly a year because a billing contractor’s marketing agent sent the electronic spreadsheet to a job prospect as part of a skills test, the hospital and contractors confirmed this week. The applicant then sought help by unwittingly posting the confidential data on a tutoring Web site.
Finally I get to incorporate my hatred of the furd into a tech story. :)
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you mean...
…Schadenfurd?
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Hahahah awesome. Totally worth the flag.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Is this a good omen or a bad omen?
A Cal alum friend of mine is very upset. His flight is on this plane, today of all days.

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Good omen!
He’s gonna ride that Duck to victory.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
He’s going into the belly of the beast!!
Costs STILL assessed against Twist
by CALumbus Bear on Oct 6, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
That looks like either Gate 20 or Gate 22 at SFO.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
NOT GATE 20!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Proof that Twist is actually Cal Receiver Ross Bostock
The evidence is clear and compelling
Kickin it in @Ross81Boss room. Damn there are alot if tanks and deep V’s in here. WOW! great environment to be a part of
Ross81Boss you should show your friends all the tanks you got!
Ross Bostock you better be rockin a deep v or tank in Seattle. Rain or shine. #WOW!
Ross81Boss there’s nothing like throwing on a deep V and taking a nap Ross
@Ross81Boss #WOW good thing all I own is tanks and deep V’S I’ll be good to go wow
I have no idea what’s going on.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
No scoop necks?
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i am super scared, im in a session with a bunch of execs today. most of my team is conferencing in so i might be the only consultant in the room. with a bunch of vp’s / sr directors
=/
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step up, son.
also, work on your coffee making skills.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
Loud ones are ok, and wet ones are ok, but no loud, wet ones.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
That would be an interesting invention. A diaper that contains farts.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
also, work on your coffee making skills.
you better check yourself before you wreck yourself.
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Actual advice - ready?
Give yourself a (metaphorical) seat at the table. If you’re the only one there, then say what you know and be confident. You are the expert in what you do, and you deal with things they haven’t so BE the expert.
Cal: Bears with Books.
You deserve to be there. Rmemeber that.
You deserve to be there.
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Looks sweet! Enjoy.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Thia is a direct insult to the memory of Steve Jobs. I can’t believe you would do this.
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by TwistNHook on Oct 6, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is ice cream sandwich a version of android/
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
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ITS THURDSAY MRONING BEARS!
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This really did make me LOL.
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Denard Robinson gets hacked!
Via:

I think you have to read from the bottom up
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What’s Twitter?
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Must be typos
Maybe the hacker meant to call him a pigfucker, because he raped his sow?
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Also
In what world does logging into someone else’s twitter or facebook account constitute “hacking”?
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Didn’t that kid get jail time for guessing Palin’s email password? Is that “hacking”?
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 6, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Same difference in the end, but...
He reset her password because her “secret questions” were public knowledge.
by OaktownAggie on Oct 6, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
social engineering, really. not “hacking” in the old school sense. people just want to feel like they have technological know-how
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Guessing someone’s password is , I guess, social engineering.
Going to someone’s facebook when they get up to use the bathroom and changing their status to “I <3 cock”? Not so much.
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Header
A Cal – Oregon Preview (links to Fox news) (It is not a very good article)
Most interesting to me is the fact that during the Washington game we scored 24 touchdowns, but still lost.
The Golden Bears were able to roll up 457 total yards and 24 touchdowns, but that production simply wasn’t enough to avoid defeat.
I support the NBA player's union.
LOL
maybe they should try cutting themselves on air rather than a debit card.
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if you need a nap, then yes.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
Boss don’t look kindly on employee napping under desk though. Blah.
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Take a “lunch break”.
Go to nearest hotel.
Sit down on comfy couch in the lobby. Close your eyes for twenty minutes.
Come back to work.
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Hmmm. I like that thought.
That said, I actually ate lunch and am feeling a bit more awake.
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Yeah, I always get food coma.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
.DISCUSSION…AS OF 8:50 AM PDT THURSDAY…QUICK UPDATE AS STRONG
CELLS HAVE BEEN FIRING UP OVER THE WATERS THIS MORNING. THREE
SPECIAL MARINE WARNING HAVE ALREADY BEEN SENT OUT ALONG WITH A
GENERAL MARINE WEATHER STATEMENT. ANY OF THESE CELLS COULD HAVE
HEAVY RAIN…HAIL…VERY GUSTY WINDS…AND EVEN A POTENTIAL WATER
SPOUT. ACTIVITY WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE SE THROUGH THE MORNING
MEANING THE FOCUS WILL SWITCH MORE INLAND.
AN UPPER LEVEL SHORT WAVE ON THE BACK SIDE OF AN UPPER LOW OVER
NEVADA…MOVED SOUTHEAST TOWARDS THE REGION. SHOWERS CONTINUED TO
GROW IN STRENGTH AND IN NUMBERS OVERNIGHT…WITH THIS ACTIVITY
EXPECTED TO CONTINUE INTO THE AFTERNOON. THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE
POSSIBLE LATER THIS MORNING INTO THE LATE AFTERNOON…AS THIS
SHORT WAVE MOVES ONSHORE. CAPE VALUES ARE FORECAST TO NEAR 500
J/KG WITH LI VALUES DOWN TO -2. IN ADDITION…THE LATEST SPCA
GENERAL THUNDER AREA INCLUDES OUR ENTIRE REGION. CURRENTLY…ONLY
ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS WERE MENTIONED IN THE FORECAST…BUT MAY
NEED TO BE UPDATED LATER THIS MORNING IF COVERAGE INCREASES.
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Cape Values?!?!/

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SOUNDS OF FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
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Every single year
Anyone: “Hey, the Blue Angels are fun to watch”
zoonews: “whatev waste of taxpayer money”
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I LOVE the sound of burning money!!!
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says the man who drove for hours in a gas-guzzling sports car yet did not need to go anywhere.
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racecars are no better, in fact probably worse than the blue angels. because the blue angels are FUCKING SWEEEEEET and nascar is for stupid REDNECKS like zoonews
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I’ve always thought zoonews to be enlightened so I would imagine that he/she has a rainbow neck
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We are the type of collective that conflates issues of fiscal responsibility into crises of morality indicative of a military industrial complex indicative of a society riddled with latent depraved violent fantasies WTF DO THESE WORDS EVEN MEAN THESE PLANES ARE DRIVING US BONKERS
WE ARE ZOONEWS
mr zoonews, what you have just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things i’ve ever heard. at no point in your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it.
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Do We Really Want Another Season of Arrested Development?
[1]
Where were you when you heard the news that brought a generation of Motherboys out chicken dancing into the street? On a Segway perhaps? Or just chilling at the Banana Stand? Did it make your eyebrows raise or fall off entirely, a la Stan Sitwell? Yes, it was just 48 hours ago that Arrested Development creator Mitch Hurwitz, flanked by the cast, declared live from the stage of the New Yorker Festival his intention to make a "limited-run" fourth season of the culty sitcom leading into the long-awaited feature film in the summer of 2013. The subsequent elation amongst a certain class of UCB-chronicling comedy nerds was palpable — a joy almost matched by Michael Cera’s agent and the guy renovating Hurwitz’s pool house. More Arrested Development means all is right with the world, an ancient (by Internet standards) wrong will be righted, a huge mistake of Gob-ian proportions will finally be undone.
Well, Maeby. Far be it from me to greet happiness with a dismissive "her," but I’m not entirely sure we want this as much as we think we do. Beloved favorites often become beloved precisely because of their absence; at a certain point fandom of a dearly-departed cult hit becomes as much of a self-identifying badge of noteworthiness as it is actual cultural enjoyment. Arrested Development was inarguably great, an avalanche of gags, triple-entendres and frustrated jokewriter bile that achieved a sort of ecstatic anarchy of hilarity. Still, just because we adored something doesn’t mean we need more of it. Arrested Development wasn’t a poor, unloved bastard like Steve Holt — it won multiple Emmys, launched Jason Bateman’s movie career, and tricked Hollywood into giving Michael Cera one. Arrested Development got multiple chances and three full seasons on Fox, a network that’s usually about as charitable as Lucille Bluth after her fourth gimlet. There is nothing particularly unfair about the way the show ended — nor about the way affection for it has only grown via word of mouth, DVD, and ridiculous .gifs since it went off the air. This need to have more of everything — that we somehow deserve it and that what we had (106 20 hours in total!) was somehow insufficient to our ravenous need for puns — seems both a peculiar affectation of the Internet age and exactly the sort of entitled greed that got George Bluth in trouble in the first place.
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I havent read any of your comment yet, but just quickly, yes. yes. YES! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
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by TwistNHook on Oct 6, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
TL;DR
FUCK YES
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by GoldBlooded on Oct 6, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
What a stupid article.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bangalore Mirror on EFLI:
TEAMS’ FORMATION
The Elite Football League of India (EFLI) was launched in India in August this year and the government of India and the Sports Authority of India decided to back the game. A custom-fit stadium is ready in Pune, where the inaugural EFLI will be held within the next two years between eight teams from different states.
Having already formed four teams, the EFLI concentrated on Karnataka. Thimmaiah Madanda, a former India rugby player, with a passion for contact sport, was brought in as coach of the state team. The Kodava took his job seriously. He scouted for talent in Kodagu, Shimoga, Devanahalli and Bangalore. "I went to all these places and mostly visited government colleges and finally invited 140 players. A first shortlist of 115 went through a four-day orientation programme last week," he said.
Thimmaiah, Sailesh Devrukhkar, the chief coach of EFLI, and Jeff Whelan, EFLI coaching co-coordinator, watched the hopefuls through drills and games before settling on the final 44 who will represent Karnataka.
DECENT SALARY
EFLI is more unique than most associations in the country. It will pay players a salary rather than a match fee as does happen with most sporting disciplines. That too, a decent sum of Rs 15,000 per player. Jeff Whelan said, "This, we are offering till we sign a deal with Ten Sports to televise the league matches. Once we get everything in order, players will earn much more than what any coach earns."
Does the average Indian have the physique or skill to compete in such a "ruthless sport"? All three men laugh it off and Thimmaiah says, "It is nothing like what the public imagine. Played with an elongated ball, the game offers 44 players the chance of being involved in a game (including substitutions). The game accommodates all physical attributes; athletes from any sport can take to this game. It calls for power, speed and agility. It does not need special skills," he says.
The forwards and interiors do not even touch the ball, leave alone catch it. Their job is only to defend the quarter-backs… to stop the opposition from getting to the quarter-backs," said Thimmaiah, adding: "You have a defending team, an attacking team and a kicking team. It is not about just 11 on field. Thirty players are used in each game, with the other 14 used for substitutions. So, it involves a lot of people and does not need any one qualification or requirement to play the game."
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So I was playing NCAA 12 last night
… and Cattouse had this great INT return for TD against fUCLA.
Here’s the video. I was surprised at how that run ended.
In other words, Go Bears!
I THINK ISPEAK FOR EVERYONE WHEN I SAY THIS IS WORSE THAN FANTASY FOOTBALL
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DUDE
I’m 1-4 and oce again faced the #1 offense of the week! I have 50+ points more than the next best team and I’m 1 and freaking 4!
I need to fire my defensive coordinator.
Inspiring and completing since1997 since2010!
OH SHIIII DARREN SHAWPA
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by Rishi on Oct 6, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why can’t he just be the announcer for all football video games?
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good question. my guess is that ESPN, the NFL, the NCAA, FOX, CBS, NBC, Versus, comcast sports net, and ABC are racist
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one of the fastest, most hardest-(sic) hitting safeties in the league!
by the federer express on Oct 6, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
"Dwarf tossing"?!?
Apparently it’s a thing that exists. And, for one lawmaker, a thing worth preserving.
A Florida lawmaker has filed a bill that would repeal a state law prohibiting dwarf tossing in bars.
Rep. Ritch Workman of Melbourne filed House Bill 4063 on Monday.
“To me it’s an archaic kind of Big Brother law that says, ‘We don’t like that activity,’” Workman told the Florida Current. “Well, there is nothing immoral or illegal about that activity. All we really did by passing that law was take away some employment from some little people.”
The cringe-inducing activity was outlawed in 1989, when national controversy over dwarf tossing prompted the Legislature to ban it in bars for safety reasons, the Current reports.
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BTW, on an old WTF Im listening to just now, Ira Glass tells a funny story of getting plastered with Rachel Maddow and blacking out. He wakes up drunk the next morning reeking in vomit.
Then, he tells a stoy abot how his wife once got black out drunk and drunk dialed his cousin (PHIL!) at like 3 AM. Funny stuff.
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But have you ever drunk dialed the greatest composer of our time!
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yet? i used to… I don’t get dunk so much any more… except for last sunday when i drank the better part of a pitcher of strong margaritas.
No – if I’ve been drinking, I rarely feel like talking to someone on the phone.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
“Where are my pants?”
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Don’t people have more misspellings when they drunk text?
In many ways, every comment I leave here is a drunk text!
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the inner East Bay is about to get hit with very strong storms.
Number one fan of Justin Bieber being the number one fan of the Dodgers, and not the [2010 World Series Champion] Giants.
Definition, please
inner East Bay
does not compute.
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I’m not sure what counts inner East Bay to you, BUT where I am, I am hearing thunder.
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Where you are. As in not like Hayward/Oakland/Fremont, more like Concord/WC/Livermore.
Number one fan of Justin Bieber being the number one fan of the Dodgers, and not the [2010 World Series Champion] Giants.
I woudl have viewed that as outer east bay. And that Berkland corridor is inner east bay
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omg, what was wrong on the internet is now fixed. i can go to bed.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
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Can we all agree that Central East Bay would be the Richmond / Livermore / Antioch / Hayward / Milpitas area?
WE ARE ZOONEWS
Inland East Bay Empire!
Alright, and after it's all over, you say "Ooh, what a lovely tea party"
by Redonkulous Bear on Oct 6, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
What about the Walnut Creek / San Mateo area?
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i’m feeling very still…and i think my spaceship knows which way to go.
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but?
Alright, and after it's all over, you say "Ooh, what a lovely tea party"
by Redonkulous Bear on Oct 6, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
therefore?
Alright, and after it's all over, you say "Ooh, what a lovely tea party"
by Redonkulous Bear on Oct 6, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
No, not fixed
People do not agree on the definition of “inner East Bay”.
FIXED is when there is a common agreement as to usage.
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i’m at don’t care stage, thus fixed.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
We're down by 6 in the 2nd Q
But I have a good feeling about this one. I bet we win.
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Wait, whu?
It suddenly got all blue sky sunshine here in Sactown. It’s not fair! Y’all are getting weather and I’m not!
Member of the Lost Tribe of Mooch
Salt & Peppar Pistachios
ARE GOOD, GO TO COSTCO AND GET SOME MORE FOR US PLZ NOM NOM NOM
WE ARE ZOONEWS
In SF, at the farmer’s market at 50 Fremont (Mondays), they have tons of flavoured pistachios and they’re all really amazing. I feel like you’d enjoy them.
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Ruh roh
It is a little more than 3 hours before kickoff and I’m into my second beer.
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if you didn’t switch firms that beer could be scotch.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
Toosh
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I'm ashamed to say
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bud light lime is nothing to be ashamed of.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
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Actually
It’s Miller Lite
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Blue and gold bottle, baby!
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Thank you. I will.
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Dont you have a job to be…..oh, right?
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whotrollin the chat today?
Thomas Trousersnake
Where do you seek Cal’s biggest advantage in this game?
Jonathan Okanes:
Probably their passing game, just because that is the strength of their offense at this point and it’s pretty clear they don’t have the advantages on defense. Oregon actually has had a pretty good pass defense so far but they haven’t faced a pair of receivers like Allen and Jones at the same time.
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by Redonkulous Bear on Oct 6, 2011 2:52 PM PDT reply actions
I just got an email about the upcoming 2012 SF Sketch Comedy Festival. Apparently any person can apply, although obviously the application requires references and DVDs etc etc etc. I noticed that if you want to apply, you have to send thea pplciationt ao an daddress in LA.
So, LA controls the SF Sketch Fest???
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! RISHI IS MORE RIGHT THAN HE KNOWS!
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Last American Who Knew What The Fuck He Was Doing Dies
Steve Jobs, the visionary co-founder of Apple Computers and the only American in the country who had any clue what the fuck he was doing, died Wednesday at the age of 56. “We haven’t just lost a great innovator, leader, and businessman, we’ve literally lost the only person in this country who actually had his shit together and knew what the hell was going on,” a statement from President Barack Obama read in part, adding that Jobs will be remembered both for the life-changing products he created and for the fact that he was able to sit down, think clearly, and execute his ideas—attributes he shared with no other U.S. citizen. “This is a dark time for our country, because the reality is none of the 300 million or so Americans who remain can actually get anything done or make things happen. Those days are over.” Obama added that if anyone could fill the void left by Jobs it would probably be himself, but said that at this point he honestly doesn’t have the slightest notion what he’s doing anymore.
Via TheOnion
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by Rishi on Oct 6, 2011 3:06 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I’m laughing but it’s not really funny.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
the only problem i had with it is this
Obama added that if anyone could fill the void left by Jobs it would probably be himself, but said that at this point he honestly doesn’t have the slightest notion what he’s doing anymore.
That sentence is exactly one word too long.
You’re saying you’d leave off the word “probably”? Gotcha.
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
....

California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
LESS THAN 3 HOURS TO GAMETIME, AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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I WANNA ANOTHER BEER!
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I WANNA PHOTO OF A GUY IN A FOOTBALL HELMET WITH ABLUE CAPE!
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z

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by Redonkulous Bear on Oct 6, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Proposition
Anyone who buys this, instead gets slapped with the payment being redirected and donated to the University of California, Berkeley’s general fund!
I support the NBA player's union.
I'm confused
Iridium is cheaper than Gold, according to google.
So why is the Iridum razer more expensive than the gold razer?
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Maybe they used science?
Alright, and after it's all over, you say "Ooh, what a lovely tea party"
by Redonkulous Bear on Oct 6, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
pure sapphire blades?
platinum screws?
monogrammed & limited edition for suckers?
Tony Gonzalez? University of California?
I just spent 5 minutes looking for a staple remover. I GOT IT!
YOU CAN RUN STAPLES, BUT YOU CANT HIDE! IM ON TO YOUR LITTLE GAMES!
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^^^why employers should drug test
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Im clean, man!
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I think he means to make sure you are taking your meds….
"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"
Im clean, man!
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The Simpsons: CANCELLED!
Whether the stars take a salary cut or not, there won’t be many more new adventures in the town of Springfield.
Fox executives told The Wrap on Wednesday that even if the voice actors behind the iconic animated show “The Simpsons” take a massive pay cut, the show is no longer profitable as a first-run series and will end after next season. If the actors don’t agree to a cut, this season, the show’s 23rd, will be its final batch of new episodes.
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See, this is what I don't understand
Why wouldn’t or couldn’t The Simpsons simply shop its show to the other networks?
Why does Fox get to say, “You’re done.”?
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Prolly bc Fox owns the rights and wouldnt allow it. Although Scrubs changed networks, so I udno
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And those rights are worth BILLIONS
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too bad they didn’t do the same with Better Off Ted :(
by the federer express on Oct 6, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions
WB I-580 closed in Oakland @ High St
http://www.insidebayarea.com/traffic/ci_19056444
WTF WE GOT FOOTBALL WATCHIN TO GET TO YOU LOUSY PUNKS GIVE YOURSELVES UP
WE ARE ZOONEWS
no, and I’ll ask you not to ask again.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
-TwistNHook
ok, really, just don’t know yet, but seems likely.
Then, I’ll make a big ruckus, because I am a hypocritical asshole.
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I just really worry about the ice caps and our future.
by GoldenEsquire on Oct 6, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m sorry I should have clarified, I wanted to know if I should just drink rum straight from the bottle or add a splash of Coca-Cola to it.
by GoldenEsquire on Oct 6, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey Atom
Since you don’t have a TV, how do you watch the game?
Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?
Prolly ESPN3
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I bet he sits.
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Clarify something for me...
If a person says something in the DBD in a way that is commonly associated with that person, do we then say “Boom! [name]’d!”
Wouldn’t it be more appropriate to reserve such an observation when someone else does it?
For instance, if I posted
Silly., then someone else might say,
Boom! Cugel’d!
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I think in both situations it works. It works if somebody is impersonating somebody else as an “Aw, snap” and it works if the original person references themselves. Cugel is referencing himself.
Although in situatons where some person just “Aw snaps” somebody else, it works, too.
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No, it works whoever does it. I’m accused of atoms-ing quite frequently.
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Desktop, technically. But yeah.
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
…speaking of which, I better head home if I’m going to get back in time for kickoff.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, yes and no. I’ll be late, yes, but since I am the viewing party, I guess I’m taking the party with me wherever I go.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I’m planning on watching it on ESPN3 on my desktop at home at this point. It’s better than a laptop (I think my monitor is like 20-22" or so), but admittedly it’s not great. I’m hoping to get a TV next year.
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by atomsareenough on Oct 6, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Robin Ventura hired as manager of the White Sox
First managerial gig at any level
The Rangers are not impressed with this hiring at all.

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I really like Robin Ventura. Good for him, and good luck to him.
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Lincecum being sued?
Allegedly destroyed apartment furnishings, perhaps in search of misplaced marijuana blend?
SAN FRANCISCO (CN) – Star baseball pitcher Tim Lincecum smashed or stole everything in his apartment that wasn’t nailed down before moving out, his former landlord claims in county court.
Homeowner Mindy Freile and her attorney did not return calls to verify whether they are suing the San Francisco Giants phenomenon who led the team to a 2010 World Series victory.
Yabba Dabba Doo! I like talking to you!
Haha
Stubhub is trying to sell me Lakers/Warriors tix on November 2nd
Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?
Are they offered at a heavy discount due to the uncertainty of the actual NBA season?
If so, you could potentially buy it now and, in the chance the lockout does get solved before then, flip it for a huge profit. Of course, if the lockout doesn’t end, then your tickets essentially expire worthless and…
Wait, why does this whole situation sound REALLY familiar?!
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f-ing lawyers.
http://docs.google.com/gview?url=http://pajamasmedia.com/lifestyle/files/2011/10/McCain-Letter.pdf&pli=1
http://spectator.org/blog/2011/10/05/hating-free-speech-is-a-mccain
Of course, you also have no recourse against my client individually, as his actions were clearly a parody of your client, a well-known public political figure. This activity is protected by the First Amendment from state law suits, including false light invasion of privacy. See generally, Hustler Magazine, Inc. v. Falwell, 485 U.S. 46 (1988), which is of course directly on point here. …
My client will not be bullied out of exercising his First Amendment right to make clear his belief that your client is a spoiled, brainless twit who is cheapening the political discourse in this country.

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