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Giving One Away: USC Capitalizes on Cal Mistakes to Beat the Bears, 30-9

Once again, Cal could not break free of the USC curse.

If you had told most Cal fans before Thursday night's game against USC that (1) USC wide receiver Robert Woods would be held to five catches for 36 yards, (2) Cal quarterback Zach Maynard would pass for nearly 300 yards and nearly 100 yards more than USC counterpart Matt Barkley, (3) Keenan Allen would top the 100-yard receiving mark for the fifth time this season, and (4) Cal would outgain USC in total offense, Cal fans would have felt pretty good about the Bears' chances for victory.  

Think again.  

All of those things happened.  Yet, USC (5-1, 3-1 Pac-12) defeated Cal for the eighth straight time.  In this year's annual USC defeat of Cal, it was the Bears who helped facilitate the outcome.  Cal committed five turnovers (four by Maynard), failed on a fake punt to lead to a USC score, and were penalized seven times (three of which gave USC a first down).  And on a night when the Bears' defense largely kept Barkley and Woods in check, Cal's mistakes were costly.  In the end, what should have been a winnable game for Cal turned into a 30-9 USC win at AT&T Park.  

With the defeat, Cal (3-3, 0-3 Pac-12) has lost its first three conference games for the first time since the horrific 2001 season.  

Star-divide

Cal's mistakes started early, as the Bears lost two fumbles (one by Allen, one by Maynard) on their first three offensive possessions.  Though Cal managed to hold USC without a score after Allen's fumble -- helped by a curious decision by USC to eschew a short field goal and go for it on fourth-and-goal at the Cal 7 -- the Bears were not so lucky after Maynard's fumble in Bear territory.  Though Cal's defense managed to hold USC to a field goal, it was still a 3-0 USC lead after the first quarter, for which Cal had itself to blame.   

After USC made it 10-0 midway through the second quarter on a 39-yard touchdown pass from Barkley to Marquise Lee, which capped an 80-yard drive (USC's best of the night), the Bear mistakes began to pile up.  Maynard's first interception of the game (to Chris Galippo) led to a USC field goal to make it 13-0.  Then, after Cal went three-and-out on the next offensive series, the Bears did the inexplicable on 4th-and-7 from their own 32-yard line.  Instead of punting the ball away, Cal punter Bryan Anger took off around the right side and was tackled two yards short of the first down.  The unsuccessful fake punt gave USC great field position at the Cal 37 with 4:32 left in the half.  

The Trojans capitalized.  USC took just five plays to score, hitting paydirt on a 7-yard touchdown pass from Barkley to Brandon Carswell.  What had been a 3-0 game early in the second quarter was suddenly a 20-0 USC lead late in the half, and many a Cal fan was probably having flashbacks to the 2010 and 2009 runaway USC wins against Cal.  And even though Cal tried to seize some momentum before halftime with its best offensive drive of the first half (60 yards in five plays), the Bears made yet another crucial mistake.  After completing three straight passes to get the Bears to the USC 10 with under a minute left in the half, Maynard threw a pass into heavy coverage on first-and-goal.  Trojans defensive back Dion Bailey intercepted the pass in the end zone, leaving the Bears with nothing to show for the drive except a 20-point halftime deficit.  

 USC extended the lead to 23-0 with Andre Heidari's third field goal of the night, capping a 15-play, 66-yard drive on the opening possession of the second half.  At that point, though, Cal's offense threatened to give Bears fans some hope for an improbable comeback.  A nine-play, 60-yard drive, highlighted by a 27-yard catch and run by Allen, ended in a 27-yard Giorgio Tavecchio field goal to put the Bears on the board.  And then, after a three-and-out by the Bears defense, Cal finally found the end zone when Maynard ran the ball for a four-yard touchdown to cap a drive on which he completed all four of his pass attempts.  But even in success, the Bears had failure -- namely, a dead ball personal foul penalty after the Maynard touchdown and yet another blocked extra point (Tavecchio's fourth blocked PAT of the season).  Nonetheless, Cal had cut the lead to 23-9, giving Bears' fans a glimmer of hope as the game went to the fourth quarter.  

But the Bears would get no closer, as mistakes continued to plague them.  A fair catch of a USC punt by Marvin Jones at Cal's own four-yard line put the Bears in a field position hole they could not afford with a 14-point deficit in the final period.  And then, as he desperately tried to rally the Bears, Maynard threw his third interception of the game on a poor throw intended for Jones.  Bailey got his second pick of the night and returned it to the Cal 9-yard line.  The Trojans punched it into the end zone two plays later to make it 30-9 and effectively end the competitive portion of the evening.  

Bright spots for the Bears?  Well, there were a few.  Allen caught a career-high 13 passes for 160 yards to post his fifth 100-yard receiving game of the season.  And the Cal defense put up a respectable performance that might have been good enough to win the game had Cal not made as many mistakes as it did on the offensive side of the ball.  But all in all, this performance by the Bears is one that leaves a bitter taste in the mouths of many a Cal fan.  Cal's chances to win this game were undone by its own poor play.  Fumbles, interceptions, bad shotgun snaps, mental mistakes, and penalties do not a good football team make.  And, simply put, Cal did not look like a good football team on Thursday night, at least not on offense and special teams.    

Cal has gone from 3-0 to 3-3.  Utah is up next, on Saturday, October 22 at AT&T Park.  It is not a stretch to call that game a must-win for the Bears in order to right the ship.  

Poll
If you had to give a game ball to a Cal player, it would go to
Keenan Allen (13 rec, 160 yards)
151 votes
Mychal Kendricks (10 tackles, 1 TFL)
23 votes
Stefan McClure/Steve Williams (for their work against USC's receivers)
188 votes
D.J. Campbell (career-high 8 tackles, 1 TFL)
9 votes

371 votes | Poll has closed

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Could Keenan Allen be aa All American?

He leads the nation in Rec. Yards. Him and Marv are the only bright sports week in and out. Sofele too when he has the chance.

Sad day for us.

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by 4Ever Golden on Oct 13, 2011 11:13 PM PDT reply actions  

“The fact he really telegraphed every ball he was going to throw made it easy,” said USC linebacker Chris Galippo, who picked off one of Maynard’s passes. “When a quarterback stares down his targets like that, you just follow his eyes.”

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by alpha1906 on Oct 13, 2011 11:17 PM PDT reply actions  

yup

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by atomsareenough on Oct 13, 2011 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ironically enough, I wonder if the picks are a result of him being more accurate? Like, before Maynard was missing so wildly that nobody could catch his errant throws. Now they’re less wild so defenders are able to make plays on them? That’s probably a bullshit theory, but I figured I’d throw it out there.

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by atomsareenough on Oct 13, 2011 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like this theory. So he just has to be accurate throwing inaccurate passes now.

by slaphancock on Oct 13, 2011 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

being accurate...

at anything will be fail… even if it’s being accurate throwing inaccurate passes

by kjdsider on Oct 13, 2011 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t remember previous Cal QBs locking in like that. Obviously Maynard’s a work in progress. Now if we could please see some progress…

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by atomsareenough on Oct 13, 2011 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

This was Longshore's major flaw
I don’t remember previous Cal QBs locking in like that.

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by Berkelium97 on Oct 13, 2011 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m dying here, but I can’t stop reading.

Fack Muck Brown!!

by Berkules on Oct 13, 2011 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sigh

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 13, 2011 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, me and my friends were cringing at this all night. You’d see Maynard get the ball, turn his head RIGHT to his reciever, and never break his gaze as he threw the pass. Now, if the guy’s WIDE open, it’s not a problem. But if he’s near a defender… it’s trouble. Ugh.

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by BearStage on Oct 13, 2011 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

*my friends and I

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by BearStage on Oct 13, 2011 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

We threw downfield a lot on that one drive at the tail end of the first half and actually were moving the ball. Then, Maynard threw a pick in the end zone.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 13, 2011 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

We air it out in situations where we feel safe, or if we’re going for a dagger to put the game out of reach. I seem to remember going deep in our winning games… right? Someone help me out here.

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by BearStage on Oct 13, 2011 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

First touchdown against Washington.

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by AERose on Oct 14, 2011 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you!

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by BearStage on Oct 14, 2011 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t that a slant or something that Keenan just ran most of the way in?

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by atomsareenough on Oct 14, 2011 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes. Seam route with 4 receivers vs. Cover 3.

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by Kodiak on Oct 14, 2011 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was still caught a good 40-50 yards downfield

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by AERose on Oct 14, 2011 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

30yds

It was a 3rd and 30

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 14, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

cuz Maynard’s arm is not that strong

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 14, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did I not say this after the Fresneck game? Yes. Was I shouted down?!? YES. Ok, maybe I wasn’t shouted down but Maynard needs to look receivers off, SC should’ve had 7 picks last night

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by Fire Starkey on Oct 14, 2011 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s just that some of us thought he’d get better at it. Apparently not.

by sycasey on Oct 14, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Allen would probably win this award every week at this point

I think it has to be the cornerbacks. McClure gave up the TD, but otherwise both him and Williams locked down the receivers deep. Barkley didn’t even hit 200 passing yards. Great game by them.

That Cal defense is starting to show glimpses of how special they can be as we transition from one era to the next. Jalil, Wilkerson, McCain, McClure, Williams made some mistakes, but they’re getting better week-by-week.

by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 13, 2011 11:17 PM PDT reply actions  

One wonders how much we should really be able to expect out of next year's defense

When we lose both starting defensive ends, the linchpins of our front seven in Holt and Kendricks, and both safeties. The talent is there, but I can’t imagine the young’uns just up and dominating.

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by AERose on Oct 13, 2011 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, you have all three nose tackles coming back.
You have DEs like Jalil, Coleman, King and Barr, plus Scarlett who could play DE/OLB hybrid.
You have OLBs like McCain, Campo, Whiteside, and Gibson.
You have ILBs like Forbes. Move Wilkerson back to the inside maybe.
You have CBs like Williams, Anthony and McClure
You have safeties like Hill, Coley, and Sebastian.

Young, but I don’t think the defense will be the problem next year.

by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 13, 2011 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, fair enough

Can they carry us through a big game, though? That’s kind of what I want to know, which of course we won’t until we actually play the games. But it just feels like the defense is going to have to play perfect if we want to steal games from Washington/Oregon/Furd/USC, and that’s where the youth worries me.

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by AERose on Oct 13, 2011 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Asking a defense to play perfect in college is kinda silly; they’re always going to be mistakes. What you need is a competent ball-control offense that can put up 20-30 points a game and let the defense go to work.

by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 13, 2011 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and that's what scares me.

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by AERose on Oct 13, 2011 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

That TD to Lee was pretty much a perfect throw by Barkley too, nothing McClure could really have done about it.

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by atomsareenough on Oct 13, 2011 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Disagree, Av....

I saw too many long passes converted for 1st downs on 3rd and long.
And how many passes were defended? Meaning, how many did our DB’s get their hands on and bat away? I think the answer is None.
But I had no replay, being at the game.

by concordtom on Oct 13, 2011 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember, off the top of my head, several passes batted away from DBs.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 13, 2011 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean by DBs.

I felt the defense played about as well as could be imagined given thatt he offense played about as poorly as imagined. This game could have been 14-0 within the first few minutes! But it was 3-0 at the first quarter.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 13, 2011 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good point

We did hold them to 3 (twice) right off the bat.
Barkley loosened us up with some LONG passes, then the USC O-line started leaning on us with the run, and that was when things started getting away from us.

by concordtom on Oct 13, 2011 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

But I just watched (TV replay) USC convert a pass to Butler with 9:50 left in the game for a 1st down. That was really frustrating.

by concordtom on Oct 13, 2011 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

there’s another one!
On 3rd and 9 with 8:01 to play, #1 committed P.I. and gave them another first down. I recall that foul when it was live.

by concordtom on Oct 13, 2011 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

…and on this 3rd 3rd down in a row, Barkley just missed Woods long on a pass when Woods had McClure beat by 3 yards. Pass on target and he scores.

by concordtom on Oct 13, 2011 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

so, you can’t really say with conviction that was good defense by McClure on this play.

by concordtom on Oct 13, 2011 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are really getting into this. I’m loving it (McDonald’s theme song!). Get down into those weeds, concordtom!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 13, 2011 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, I’m happy Twist. I had a great time at the game. Fantastic seats. Liked (sorry to say) the venue BETTER than Memorial. Of course, the weather and view were spectacular! But, wow! I loved the field for football about 10 times better than for baseball, which I’ve seen about a dozen times. First football game there for me. It was great.

I just got home and see that ESPN is showing the game. And so, I’m commenting. I don’t feel the need to cheer cheer Cal here. We got beat all over the place. The stats (we had more O yards) is shocking to me! This game was never close, sorry to say.

by concordtom on Oct 13, 2011 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maynard doesn’t have the arm to be a standout at this level. He throws some balls now and then, and moves well to avoid the rush, but I saw a lot of throws that could have used some more mustard, and some more distance. Can I say that without being seen as a dour fellow?

by concordtom on Oct 14, 2011 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not his arm that’s the problem. It’s his head.

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by atomsareenough on Oct 14, 2011 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m surprised it was so warm! Barely any breeze, and quite the balmy evening.

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by BearStage on Oct 14, 2011 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was like the greatest night in San Francisco history. I didnt wear a jacket at all.

The whole day was perfect EXCEPT for the game!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 14, 2011 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t feel like we got beat all over the place at ALL. I feel like we beat ourselves by our boneheaded offensive miscues, but the defense played great and we should have won.

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by atomsareenough on Oct 14, 2011 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

That PI was not a good call, though.

by sycasey on Oct 14, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I checked the play by play

Barkley was 1-4 for 9 yards on third and long.

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by AERose on Oct 13, 2011 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t believe it. It didn’t feel that way.

by concordtom on Oct 13, 2011 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Numbers, like Shakira’s hips, don’t lie!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 13, 2011 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many P.I.’s on 3rd down?

by concordtom on Oct 13, 2011 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=312860025

Have at it, if you are really that intent on picking nits.

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by AERose on Oct 13, 2011 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not into picking nits. I’m just saying I didn’t feel there was stellar DB play. I think we are grasping at straws here trying to find some small areas of praise. This wasn’t the worst game ever. But it wasn’t like we ever had much of a feeling of hope.

by concordtom on Oct 13, 2011 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought they played well in their assignments. Played close up, generally jammed the receivers, funneled them toward the sideline, took away the middle of the field. Decent in run support too.

Feel free to disagree. One of those PIs was questionable too.

by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 14, 2011 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, then.
Sum up for me how we got lopsided in this game and it was never a contest? Seriously…

1) Maynard INT’s – don’t throw the ball into their jerseys.
2) Offensive line push for USC
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by concordtom on Oct 14, 2011 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

They had to drive 60 yards to get 20 points.

There. It’s not fucking complicated. We gave up field position, they took advantage.

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by AERose on Oct 14, 2011 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not to mention we started with poor field position all the time, which seemed to always ensure instant Trojan points when we turned it over.

by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 14, 2011 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

This, exactly. The game is 100% on our offense. The D played well, but you’re not going to hold a talented team like USC scoreless when you keep handing them the ball with only 10, 20, 30 yards to go for a touchdown.

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by atomsareenough on Oct 14, 2011 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Allen also fumbled, giving htem a short field.
The failed fake punt gave them a short field.

Two more short fields there thanks to miscues.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 14, 2011 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ed Dickson came out of nowhere to catch a long pass down the seam

giving them a short field.

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by AERose on Oct 14, 2011 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

The refs announced that Cal had violated the too many fans in the stand penalty, giving USC a short field.

So many of the 2nd quarter (where USC scored most of its points) seemed to occur right in the non-student end zone where I was!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 14, 2011 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good points re: short fields

I watched some of the game on TV last night and saw that we did a decent job of stopping them at times. However, with 10 minutes to go in the game, USC got 3 straight first downs on 3rd downs to help run down the clock. That was the taste left in my mouth. Then we committed another INT and that was the game.

by concordtom on Oct 14, 2011 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would say the primary reason the WR’s didn’t catch balls is because Barkley overthrew them, not good DB play.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 14, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

That could be because Williams and McClure were getting good jams in press coverage, tho.

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by AERose on Oct 14, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then check the play by play yourself?

Belief is a funny thing to talk about when you’re dealing with actual facts.

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by AERose on Oct 13, 2011 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw a few impeccably run routes by Butler and Woods for 10 yards on 3rd down. But nothing was given up deep, which is better than we hoped for.

by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 13, 2011 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

We did have a few 3rd and longs converted bc of flags. I remember one key play where the DB was called for PI. I was at the game, so it was difficult for me to remember who, in specific, it was. Its all a blur of turn overs! And not the delicious apple ones!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 13, 2011 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of those PI’s (in the second half) was an absolute travesty of a call.

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by BearStage on Oct 13, 2011 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Steve Williams, but we stopped the Trojans on the next set of downs anyway.

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by atomsareenough on Oct 14, 2011 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the defensive backs did pretty well, particularly considering the lack of pressure on the USC quarterback. He had time, he evaded the rush a couple of times, and (as I recall) only sacked once (and that was when he started to run anyway). I am hopeful that with some more seasoning the pass rush gets a little stronger. I really like watching Cal 40 (McCain) he is around the ball a lot, just not making the plays yet. Yes, it would have been nice to see them make plays on the ball more – I don’t think there were many passes defended, and no near interceptions, but USC has a quality thrower and receivers.

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by Jake88 on Oct 14, 2011 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good Point

Yes, you reminded me that Barkley had all day to pass!

by concordtom on Oct 14, 2011 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m incredibly pissed at the SC punter.
After the halftime show, he started booting things from the 50, towards the student section. He drilled band members at least once, possibly three times, and every time he’d just smirk and go at it again.

by iVinshe on Oct 13, 2011 11:19 PM PDT reply actions  

I would have been tempted to go over and throw shit back at him. Or at least call security.

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by atomsareenough on Oct 13, 2011 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s when you keep the ball and/or throw it higher up in the stands

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 14, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

As much as our defense has been torched this year, tonight's performance was encouraging

Nice work out of McClure and Williams, IMO. Unfortunately, I don’t have the energy to feel as good about it as I’d like to.

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by Ohio Bear on Oct 13, 2011 11:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Agreed. I don’t think our defense is the problem at hand. I thought we got some good penetration up front, decent coverage, and ok tackling.

The problem would appear to be the brother of the solution.

by slaphancock on Oct 13, 2011 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marvin Jones injury?

LINK

Im sorry fans for those 2 drops! Torn finger ligaments or not I always make those plays for yall Lets get it next week! #GoBears
Had it for 3 weeks now it shouldn’t effect anything that’s all I was sayin. No worries

by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 13, 2011 11:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Ruh oh

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 13, 2011 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, it's probably not going to get any worse.

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by AERose on Oct 13, 2011 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Biggest bonehead play of the game?

On a night when the QB threw 3 INT’s and took his eyes of the shotgun snap to give away another turnover, I think, CLEARLY, the biggest bonehead mental play was Marvin Jones fair-catching the punt at the 4. Are you kidding me?
That’s when the air went out of the bag for me! I love Marvin, but man alive, was that DUMB!
You have 1 thing to think about when the ball is up in the air. At least Maynard has some 21 other players to worry about.

by concordtom on Oct 13, 2011 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea and Tedford really gave it to him on the sideline. Jones just walked past him while Jeff continued yelling at the back of his helmet.

It was monumentally dumb.

Fack Muck Brown!!

by Berkules on Oct 13, 2011 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jones just walked past him while Jeff continued yelling at the back of his helmet.

Oh geez. That is never, ever a good sign. A coach yelling while a player just tunes him out is almost always a symptom of something bigger lurking under the surface.

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by BearStage on Oct 14, 2011 12:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or he was just embarrassed

DailyCalSports:

Jones, on fair-catching a punt at the his own 4: “It was just a boneheaded decision … You’ll never see that again.”

Marvin Jones: “You see the past two weeks, we beat ourselves … We can’t keep shooting ourselves in the foot.”

Don’t go too crazy there BearStage. Marv’s a thoughtful guy.

by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 14, 2011 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes, when I saw it live, I thought he was feeling like a dummy. But then on TV, I saw that Tedford was barking and Jones just walked away – not a good sign. I’ll stick with the embarrassment factor.

by concordtom on Oct 14, 2011 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cool, ok. Thanks from bringing me down off the ledge.

I think this game just got to me :-/

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by BearStage on Oct 14, 2011 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Reminds me of…. Singletary.

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by Rishi on Oct 14, 2011 6:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

You think Marvin Jones has hearing problems?! Shit, that is bad news.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 14, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

And another thing

Jones fair caught punts at the 11, 9, and 4. Hmmmm…

by concordtom on Oct 14, 2011 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

On at least one of those (maybe the 9), SC defenders were on the goal line and would’ve downed it there if Jones hadn’t caught it

by LeConteisMyHome on Oct 14, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

4 star qbs

don’t we have about a couple or three 4 star QBs sitting on our bench? can’t anyone of those not stare down their primary target

by kjdsider on Oct 13, 2011 11:27 PM PDT reply actions  

something i found from a different post

longshore and riley were avg. mansion is horrible, bridgford needs work…what’s the chances of us having an actual ELITE qb on the roster right now?

“Kline joins a list of Cal quarterbacks with Elite 11 honors: Nate Longshore, Kevin Riley, Brock Mansion, Allan Bridgford and Austin Hinder. I don’t like jumping to conclusions about high school recruits, but I like what I’m hearing.”

http://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/2011/7/22/2289201/zach-kline-2011-elite-11-qb-strongest-arm

by kjdsider on Oct 13, 2011 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

And have Flying Spaghetti Mansion/Bridgford lobbing passes all over?

No thanks.

longshore and riley were avg

You mean Longshore post-Oregon 2007, right?

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by Swamphunter on Oct 13, 2011 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

unless i have bad memory

longshore at least checked down from time to time, right?

by kjdsider on Oct 13, 2011 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Longshore was Significantly better than average when healthy. He was no Rodgers (but who was?), but he was better than Riley.

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by BearStage on Oct 13, 2011 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

You should check out Bridgford’s high school stats for his senior year. He threw 11 picks and 0 TDs. Ouch. I kid you not.

Allan Bridgford Sr. Year Stats

by daveman on Oct 14, 2011 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why do you keep bringing that up like it's actually true?

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by AERose on Oct 14, 2011 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dave, I swear I already told you this was false.

by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 14, 2011 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here you go

12 games, 300 pass attempts, 184 completions, 61.3% completion rate, 3,058 yards, 38 TDs, 11 INTs.

You’re not going to get a scholarship to Cal throwing 11 INTs and 0 TDs. It’s just gonna happen.

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by atomsareenough on Oct 14, 2011 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

*not gonna happen.

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by atomsareenough on Oct 14, 2011 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Damn. I can throw TONS of picks. Was hoping to get a scholarship.

by Glanko on Oct 14, 2011 8:30 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Can't trust the stats of maxpreps

Not always comprehensive and often wrong.

Keeping January 2 open. You know, just in case.
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by Ohio Bear on Oct 14, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

at this point

i’d be okay going back to the wildbear/crazy/whatever formation. I think our best option is to just punt as quickly as possible, try to stop them on D, and field goal them to death.

by slaphancock on Oct 13, 2011 11:34 PM PDT reply actions  

one thing we seem to be good at

is injuring other teams’ key players. Our juju is so bad it rubs off.

by slaphancock on Oct 13, 2011 11:36 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Nothing inspires confidence more than having something in common with Holmoe

Nice to see that Tedford, like Holmoe has now started PAC 12 play 0-3. I just know that like Holmoe, Tedford will find a way to turn things around. He just need new facilities to help coach up these kids.

by SDBear on Oct 13, 2011 11:38 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

at least

we can induct a whole new crop of Ol’ Blues this season.

And next.

by slaphancock on Oct 13, 2011 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

And this is the second thing he has in common with Holmoe…

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by BearStage on Oct 13, 2011 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, not so much in common, but:

A Tedford team (2009) went two consecutive games without scoring a touchdown – something that even a Holmoe team never did. Apropos of nothing, especially since that team won one of the greatest Big Games in history) but still a weird statistic.

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by BearStage on Oct 14, 2011 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really dont know what to say about this game. There were so many errors in basic fundamentals, like hand offs, that it was just surprising. I consider a Tedford team better than this and I think for a lot of people this was a turning point in the “Tedford Era.”

I still have faith that this team can win the next 4 games (3 of which are at home). I think there is still a reasonable chance to go 7-5 on the season. That would be EXACTLY where I thought we would be at the start of the year. And so we might end up matching my expectations perfectly.

That being said, having been embarrased two weeks in a row on national television, it’s dificult to look at the big picture. Having sat 3 sections away from the USC marching band all night long, it is VERY difficult to look at the big picture.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 13, 2011 11:38 PM PDT reply actions  

I consider a Tedford team better than this and I think for a lot of people this was a turning point in the "Tedford Era."

This seems a bit vague to me reading it over again. Just to be clear, I think for a lot of people this was the game where the question “Should they replace Coach Tedford before the end of the 2012 season?” stopped being unreasonable.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 13, 2011 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

So the answer is that it is now reasonable to bring up Tedford’s replacement? I agree, by the way. He seems to have lost the plot somewhere.

I love him to death though, and I hope he figures it out before the end of the season.

by slaphancock on Oct 13, 2011 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

figures out the solution, not that I love him. Though that would be fine as well. . .

by slaphancock on Oct 13, 2011 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even if this is the point of no return for Tedford, we won't be seriously talking about his replacement for a long time yet.

Buyouts are a bitch.

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by AERose on Oct 13, 2011 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, there is a difference between idle chat on a internet forum and what the big wigs discuss.

I think it is highly unlikely (unless something dramatic occurs) that Tedford is removed before the end of the 2012 season.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 13, 2011 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I felt previously that to even discuss replacing him was premature and unreasonable. Somewhere right around the latter part of the first half, I stopped feeling that way. Maybe I’m just emotional at 1130 PM after spending all day in the City and watching us basically hand USC the game repeteadly.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 13, 2011 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I say, you say, everyone says

Because no one is paying that buyout. Regardless of how he performs this season, barring a Murphy’s Law season.

by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 13, 2011 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

when is the contract up again?

I have always supported Tedford, and continue to. But boy these last two week were tough to swallow, especially after last year.

If we could hire Tedford again to change the culture of losing our team has acquired, I would do it in a second. But unfortunately, he’s still under contract.

by slaphancock on Oct 13, 2011 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think 2014 or 2016.

If I recal the contract correctly (and I wrote a post up on this, but Im too lazy to find it now), they changed the contract in 2008 or so, deferring an amount of his contract. So, normally, he would get $500,000.00 or so a year that is now deferred until he leaves. So, it could be a buy out of a 2 or more million at this point, but I’m not 100%. Plus, the remainder of his contract, on top fo that I think.

IIRC, he does have to make reasonable efforts to obtain a similar job, that would mitigate his future damages, but I dont believe it would have any effect on the deerred compensation portion.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 13, 2011 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

2015

The exact financials are fuzzy to me, but his contract runs through the 2015 season.

Tedford’s contract grants him an automatic 1-year extension if he hits nine wins in a season (including the bowl game), which last happened in 2008. As a show of faith, the administration decided to extend the contract by two years instead of just one, at the time.

Having said all that, I think he gets at least two more years after this one to right the ship, unless things go into full meltdown mode in the meantime.

by minesweeper on Oct 14, 2011 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

how big is the buyout?

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by BearStage on Oct 13, 2011 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

The remainder of the contract, apparently.

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by atomsareenough on Oct 14, 2011 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, this is the turning point for Tedford

We had a terrible game against a traditional rival that is very much average right in our coaches tenth season. I would say that this is very much a turning point. If I were the AD I would have serious concerns whether our current coach could beat one of our top rivals. Especially when that rival has a second year coach and is going through sanctions and the game is at home.

I can see Cal 2-7 in PAC 12 play and 0-3 against our top three rivals! That is firing material, yet he is guaranteed another two seasons because of a buyout!

by SDBear on Oct 13, 2011 11:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

having been embarrased two weeks in a row on national television, it’s dificult to look at the big picture

OH G*D EXACTLY THIS.

I mean… twice in a row! ESPN Thursday night. If we’d won both those games we’d be the toast of the town. Getting ripped like that on consecutive weeks in primetime… dammit. More like a laughingstock now.

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by BearStage on Oct 13, 2011 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Luckily most people on the east coast were sleeping.

by JerseyBear on Oct 13, 2011 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

We can only hope.

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by BearStage on Oct 13, 2011 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also baseball!

I mean let’s be honest. Only diehards were watching tonight’s game. The national telecast was a perk for us.

by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 13, 2011 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was awake.

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by DC Trojan on Oct 14, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

shush, you.

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by BearStage on Oct 15, 2011 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, man! I’m sorry to hear that you had to sit over there in the corner. My seats were AWESOME! I hardly heard ANY USC cheering. None! The view was outstanding! Everyone should be so fortunate. Section 225.

This is not a turning point – other than it represents the last loss of the season for Cal. When we took the pre-season prediction poll, I said we’d lose the first 3 Pac12 games, and then win the rest. So, hold onto your hats, we are going on a streak, even knocking Stanford off at the Farm!

Still, I would like to have seen Bridgford after that 3rd INT. What’s up with that? 3 INT’s – you don’t get to finish the game, buddy!

by concordtom on Oct 14, 2011 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was in Section B on the 42 yard line…SC fans everywhere.

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by carp on Oct 14, 2011 6:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was that the bleaches section on the outfield? We were in the non-student end zone, not too far away from that and kept commenting on how red it was. SO RED!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 14, 2011 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was prolly 30:1 SC:Cal fans. And I was bringing it.

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by carp on Oct 14, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

epic shit talking after Hello Kiffy’s 4th n 7 moment.

“HAHA U GUYS HIRED KIFFIN!

but then they got scoreboard on me. :(

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by carp on Oct 14, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still have faith that this team can win the next 4 games (3 of which are at home). I think there is still a reasonable chance to go 7-5 on the season. That would be EXACTLY where I thought we would be at the start of the year. And so we might end up matching my expectations perfectly.

For being such a reasonable man, you are being unreasonable here! Cal was a 12 win team based on preseason hype and out of touch expectations. Every loss this season aside from OSU would be completely unexpected.

by Cali49a on Oct 14, 2011 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

The frustration is that you can anticipate the losing, you can know it is going to come, but watching it happen live 20 feet away is so difficult sometimes.

But we REALLY need to win all 4 of the next 4 games. No excuses.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 14, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Luckily, my seats are high enough to give me a breathtaking view (distraction) of the bay!

by Cali49a on Oct 14, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Luckily, my seats were a few sections over from the USC marching band. YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BULLY FOR AL!!!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 14, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

The frustration is building

But we REALLY need to win all 4 of the next 4 games. No excuses.

Yep, the season, bowl eligibility, and fan sanity comes down to these four games. We lose any of these next four and you will see an even larger fan revolt.

by SDBear on Oct 14, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

true….but there are NO excuses for the debacle that was last nights game…excuses ran out last year IMO….

by Cal_Fan2 on Oct 14, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Any chance that if next season goes as badly as last season ( I still have hope for this season), any chance Tedford just leaves?

by JerseyBear on Oct 13, 2011 11:56 PM PDT reply actions  

I’d rather not think about that until we get to it.

by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 14, 2011 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stop with the Tedford complaints

I’m a supporter.
I give him 2 years after this year.
Next year is a pass b/c he built Memorial.
If it’s bad after 2 seasons in the new Memorial, then we can still talk.
Defense should rock then. Kline will locked and loaded, and all the other highly ranked QB prospects will have had their opportunity. If NONE of them rise, then we can talk!

by concordtom on Oct 14, 2011 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't promise I won't complain, but I'm also a supporter.

The fact that he’s gotten us this far is huge. The fact that without him and his leadership, we don’t get new facilities at all – huge. The fact that he’s the best coach we’ve had in almost a century – same thing. I think college football has become a little too much “what have you done for me lately” – I don’t think a little loyalty is a bad thing. I don’t think we should forget that college football is about more than just wins and losses – these players are still students, and Tedford cares about how these kids perform in the classroom just as much as he cares about how the perform on the field. Too many programs treat the kids like slabs of beef, and I’m very grateful to Tedford that he doesn’t.

Ever notice how few of Cal’s players get into trouble? How we almost never hear about them getting arrested, or taking illegal monies, or any of that other nonsense? A lot of that has to do with Tedford. I don’t want to bring a Jim Tressell or a Lane Kiffin into our program for the sake of a few lousy wins. I don’t want to sacrifice these kids’ futures for a hollow present. Tedford represents the very best of what we want a Cal coach to be, and for that, I’m willing to give him some more rope.

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by BearStage on Oct 14, 2011 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agree

He’s a goddamn Romulus, building this program from a national embarassment to a part-time power. I’ll take it.

by Glanko on Oct 14, 2011 5:11 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I mean would anybody here trade Tedford for a disloyal, love-em-and-leave-em, hustler coach like Erickson, even if it means being ranked higher? We shouldnt be ashamed to speak about our coach and we shouldn’t be thinking in the back of our minds that there’s some place our coach would rather be.

by Glanko on Oct 14, 2011 5:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oh come on, the writing is on the wall

I am sorry if you don’t want to read it.

Fact is Tedford is 0-3 against both Sark and Kelly, 0-2 against Kiffin and 2-7 against Riley. These are coaches we will face every year. The program is trending down. The last time the administration and fans stuck their collective heads in the ground we wound up going 1-10.

Sometimes, without rhyme or reason the game just passes a coach by. Tedford is a great person, he helped build Cal football up from the bottom, but all signs point to him hitting a ceiling. Nothing wrong with that, it happens to everyone at one point. Sadly, we have reached that point with Tedford.

by SDBear on Oct 14, 2011 12:22 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wasn’t complaining, just propositioning? I like Tedford and am a supporter, but even if I was complaining, could you blame me, at least after tonight? I sure hope not.

by JerseyBear on Oct 14, 2011 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

To be more clear, I said what I said as a “Would Tedford’s personality ever allow him to feel so ashamed and leave?” kind of thing, if that makes sense. I wasn’t trying to imply that I want him gone.

by JerseyBear on Oct 14, 2011 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve always been a Tedford supporter. But tonight I said aloud for the first time ever that maybe it’s time to find a new head coach.

I blame Twist.

by CalBear81 on Oct 14, 2011 1:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Keep the faith, CB81!

Costs STILL assessed against Twist

by CALumbus Bear on Oct 14, 2011 6:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d tell you to get a grip, CB81, but tonight was also the first time I had that same thought.

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by Kodiak on Oct 14, 2011 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Get a grip, CB81 and Kodiak!

Costs STILL assessed against Twist

by CALumbus Bear on Oct 14, 2011 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you put a white Cal helmet in your office, I shall consider it.

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by Kodiak on Oct 14, 2011 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I did that, Ohio Bear would just steal it. Like a Maynard pick in the endzone steals my enthusiasm for life.

Costs STILL assessed against Twist

by CALumbus Bear on Oct 14, 2011 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

a Maynard pick in the endzone steals my enthusiasm for life.

Get a grip, CALumbus Bear!

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by Kodiak on Oct 14, 2011 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

LIFE IS STILL WORTH LIVING, CALUMBUS BEAR!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 14, 2011 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

[No one tell him that he’s still in Ohio!]

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by Kodiak on Oct 14, 2011 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Remember: it’s diagonal accross the train tracks so they can’t sew up your arteries in time.

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by carp on Oct 14, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

me too

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 14, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

In the immortal words of CBKWit, when we play SC year after year “the specifics change but the results are the same”

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 14, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like captains, coaches go down with their Programs. No abandoning ship, we are on the Titanic so grab a cocktail and a deck chair next to the band.

by SDBear on Oct 14, 2011 12:12 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

No way he just leaves, and I wouldn't want him to!

See below post – I’ll bitch about the team, but I’m firmly on Tedford’s side.

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by BearStage on Oct 14, 2011 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is a great thing we are removing 7000 seats from Memorial

Memorial won’t look so empty the next two seasons as fans abandon the Tedford ship.

On a plus side, fans will have a lot more room than they thought in order to stretch out during home games.

by SDBear on Oct 14, 2011 12:10 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

The past few years have almost made me miss 2007. At least we were competitive in every game back then.

by rollonubears on Oct 14, 2011 12:13 AM PDT reply actions  

He’s… he’s…

…ALIVE????

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by BearStage on Oct 14, 2011 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I only have a few more months of true Cal fanship left, I was hoping it wouldn’t suck as much as this.

On the bright side, who wants to talk about Allen Crabbe?

by rollonubears on Oct 14, 2011 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tedford is going to have to open practice to the media

The week leading up to Cal playing SC. Only to prove to fans that they are practicing and installing an offensive game plan and not conducting a Gears of War 3 tournament.

by SDBear on Oct 14, 2011 12:35 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I’d love to watch Tedford play Gears of War 3.

by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 14, 2011 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would love to watch practice, in general.

by JerseyBear on Oct 14, 2011 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't graduate until May,

but I am quickly turning into an Old Blue . . . the new, formerly optimistic freshmen around me are starting to realize why I am so damned pessimistic all the time.

Oh well, basketball is back in three weeks, right? We should be able to exact revenge against some of these schools in that sports, right? RIGHT? Please, for the love of God let our basketball team live up to expectations. ;)

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by AndyHogan14 on Oct 14, 2011 12:47 AM PDT reply actions  

What is most disturbing to me

I don’t think I am exaggerating, but there appears to be no improvement in the offense or special teams. The same mistakes that happened in the first couple of games are still being made. When Tedford gives his postgame happy talk, he loses me given tonight’s results. I hope he makes me eat my words, but I doubt it. Damn it!

by prd74 on Oct 14, 2011 1:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Not only do you fire Tedford

…you have to fire Sandy…for being a loser as well.

by oski4u on Oct 14, 2011 1:48 AM PDT reply actions  

For being a loser? Seriously?

Cal football is not the only sport on this campus, last I checked. I see a lot of winners everywhere.

by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 14, 2011 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

THIRD PLACE in the Director's Cup.

Sandy stays.

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by BearStage on Oct 14, 2011 1:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope this was an un-sober comment, or a “where the heck are my meds” moment. Sandy’s sole job isn’t football. And she’s knocking it out of the park everywhere else.

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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 14, 2011 6:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt here – it could be mixing meds with un-sobriety.

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by Kodiak on Oct 14, 2011 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not getting fired as Marshawnthusiast, right?

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by TwistNHook on Oct 14, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

And punitive damages!

by Glanko on Oct 14, 2011 8:59 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Then we would have looked as ugly as we played.

by MV Bear on Oct 14, 2011 7:28 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Okay...had time to chill...

I’m still pissed, but I just want to see us win a few games.

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by alpha1906 on Oct 14, 2011 2:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Maybe I'm just jaded

but I don’t see Cal being successful under Tedford ever again and, I feel almost 100 percent certain, that Cal will never go to a Rose Bowl under him.

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by LouisMurphy'sLaw on Oct 14, 2011 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was this last night?

I thought JT said we’d never see that kind of reaction from him again (Riley-Oregon St.)….
Well, I certainly give him a pass here. Would this have been after the fair catch at the 4 yard line, or the 3rd INT into traffic?

by concordtom on Oct 14, 2011 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I believe it was after a PI call on McClure.

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by atomsareenough on Oct 14, 2011 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly. Terrible call. But wasnt there another one? Like a mild, mutual push after the play, near the Cal sideline?

by Glanko on Oct 14, 2011 8:35 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Another PI? Yeah, I believe there was another one on Steve Williams sometime in like the 4th quarter.

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by atomsareenough on Oct 14, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly. Terrible call. But wasnt there another one? Like a mild, mutual push after the play, near the Cal sideline?

by Glanko on Oct 14, 2011 8:35 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think that was right after that bullshit PI/UC call along the Cal sidelines here (somebody help me out, the bar I was watching had the sound off bc od the Brewers game). It was a bullshit call and I only wish I was there driving a Circuit City truck loaded with headphones that I could have dumped onto the field.

by Glanko on Oct 14, 2011 8:34 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Isnt this a PI on Williams?

where he pushed the receiver out of bounds in the air?

by JustBear on Oct 14, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, this was on McClure, and the pass was sailing wide out of bounds anyway; it couldn’t have even been caught in bounds.

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by atomsareenough on Oct 14, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

FLING FLARN IT!

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 14, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

this pic’s actually sad to me. His facial expressions say 1000 words.

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by carp on Oct 14, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s so rare to see the Rope Coach standing still without any animation.

by JustBear on Oct 14, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Go Bears

1. I was concerned that the team, the offense in particular, looked like it was not ready for prime time. Specifically, it seemed to me that it was lacking in anticipation and execution.

By anticipation, I mean that too often the players looked unprepared for what they were facing, or predictable in what they were operating. For execution, it seemed that could not perform their responsibilities (making the block, avoiding the penalty, making the catch, holding onto the ball, making the throw.) Some is to be expected, I suppose, but the last two weeks Cal looked a step below Oregon and USC.

I don’t think our athletes are less talented (yes, Barkley is very good, and LaMichael James and Kenyon Barner, etc.). I don’t know how a coaching staff turns around something this systematic.

2. I liked seeing the youth on the field on defense. They were trying hard, and around the ball, but just not making plays yet. I was particularly impressed with the front 7 against the run – both against Oregon and USC (until things slipped away in the second half in both games) I felt our boys had the better of the line of scrimmage. The biggest area of improvement is still getting better pressure on the quarterback, hopefully that will come when the edge rushers get a little stronger and little more experienced.

3. Finally, I think there is an emerging consensus

- Coach Tedford is a good man, has done wonderful things for the program, and is doing things the right way
- the team is under performing, this year and last
- the coach will not be terminated before the end of the 2012 season, at the earliest, due to financial and other considerations

Since it is starting to get redundant on discussions of the games, how about setting up a special thread for those who still feel the need to vent about the coach?

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by Jake88 on Oct 14, 2011 7:39 AM PDT reply actions  

Five turnovers, eh?

That’s like a Utah stat. If both teams continue this, maybe next week we can set some kind of record for total turnovers in one game.

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by CrimsonUte on Oct 14, 2011 8:34 AM PDT reply actions  

One could only hope...

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by golden oso on Oct 14, 2011 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

What bothered me the most

… wasn’t losing a game by 21 points that we shouldn’t have won. It was how we looked doing it. The players looked like they were giving less and less effort as the game went on, and they were showing visible disgust at each other. Maynard was throwing up his arms on every drop. SC players were stopping to pick up Golden Bears on the ground before our own teammates – seriously, SC was practicing decent sportsmanship.

And I hate the term “intangibles” or blaming player attitudes like some sort of freaking but something was downright foul on the sideline. It’s the same kind of chippy attitude I remember seeing at Wannestat’s Pitt teams or on any Texas team since VY left. It’s a lack of competitiveness and drive with inevitably unfulfilled expectations.

If I had the thought that Tedford might be on the outs at Cal (and I’m not there… yet), it would be because it just doesn’t seem that he has the fire lit under this team that he had in 2003 & 2004. Sometimes, it’s just not there anymore, and that flame may never come back. If a team with this much talent isn’t being led by a solid mind and a spark, it’s never going to fire on all cylinders.

/i know i havent posted in a while but a game like that will get you motivated to go on the internet and be bitchy on a Friday morning

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by slims on Oct 14, 2011 8:35 AM PDT reply actions  

were you at the game? On TV I was getting that feeling, but sometimes it’s hard to tell. If true, this is exactly the toxic environment that sent 2009 into a spiral.

by slaphancock on Oct 14, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

wasn’t losing a game by 21 points that we shouldn’t have won. It was how we looked doing it

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by carp on Oct 14, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, we definitely should have won. Hell, I’ll go so far as to say we had NO BUSINESS losing this game, and wouldn’t have except for our stupid mistakes.

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by atomsareenough on Oct 14, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

This one really pissed me off...

Have been generally calm about this year, but I do not believe we lost to a better team (last week we did). We handed it over to them. All I have wanted to see week to week is improvement, and to have others beat us, if they have superior talent. USC did not, and we threw up on ourselves in this one. This having been said, here is the real test — what will this do to the team. There are still 6 games to go, 4 of them where we are at least as talented as our opponents. Can we do what we have done precious little of the last few years — bounce back and show heart!

by GoldenBear 77 on Oct 14, 2011 8:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Two teams that Cal has lost to that with better coaching we probably win

Can we do what we have done precious little of the last few years — bounce back and show heart!

We will know with next week Utahs game. We lose that game, especially the way we lost last night, the season is over and I would not be surprised to see us go 1-8 in Pac12 play.

by SDBear on Oct 14, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

USC did not

Not on defense at any rate.

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by DC Trojan on Oct 14, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Consistency

Cal has jacked up RBs on each of the past 2 teams it has played. Will it continue next week?

by Cali49a on Oct 14, 2011 9:05 AM PDT reply actions  

first post..and some thoughts

longtime lurker here and feeling compelled to comment after seeing the offensive mediocrity first hand. It’s pretty obvious by now that Maynard is not a very good pocket passer. The happy feet were just as bad as last week. However I don’t recall any recent qbs able to spin out from a flying linebacker and pass on the run like that one highlight we had, so why wouldn’t the coaches just design more bootlegs and screens and qb scrambles? isn’t it the coaching staff’s responsibility to design the plays that your qb can execute? Sure we’ve had bad losses but I am still hopeful we can turn this around. Losing at Washington and at Oregon, and the first home game with real turf against an opportunistic USC isn’t so bad. Let’s not call for Tedford’s head just yet.

by goldenfleche on Oct 14, 2011 9:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Thanks for the comment! Some good tohughts in there. I do feel bad bringing up the wholle Tedford thing. I think I was just emotional last night after the game.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 14, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even the Tedford loyalists I know all admitted yesterday that it might be time to entertain the thought of a new coach. That thought crossed my mind as well, even though logically speaking we’re right at what we expected this season to be, almost even right where we wanted to be at a W-L standpoint.

But games as underdogs like the past two weeks are games with house money. We’re entering the stretch of the season where we really, really need to pull out W’s. I think the next few games will determine the Tedford situation, if there is such thing as a Tedford situation.

Who knows, it can be disastrous. But we can also get bowl eligible, pump some sunshine and pull of some big upsets to finish, maybe salvage, an interesting season. Does anyone expect it after yesterday’s game? Probably not. But that’s why we play the game, even if playing the games like the past two weeks is something we might not want to do.

by nickle on Oct 14, 2011 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

The issue is, as someone else has pointed it. I no longer believe Cal is capable of pulling off "upsets"

The sad thing is, this is a game Cal should win. SC is not a great or even good team at this point and is coached by a guy (Kiffin) that many Cal fans believe isn’t as good as Tedford, yet here is Kiffin 2-0 against Tedford. SC is an average team, UW is probably better than SC at this point.

The team, especially the offense and QB are regressing.

the Tedford situation, if there is such thing as a Tedford situation.

Yes this does exist and it is only going to continue to grow.

by SDBear on Oct 14, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t recall any recent qbs able to spin out from a flying linebacker and pass on the run like that one highlight we had, so why wouldn’t the coaches just design more bootlegs and screens and qb scrambles?

I don’t know, I just do not know.

The last interception was the definition of insanity: trying something that has not worked before (Maynard standing in the pocket and throwing a pass to his right, towards the sideline), and hoping it will somehow work this time.

by sycasey on Oct 14, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think I’m the only one who really enjoyed the game! After about the first 6-7 minutes, it was kind of like “oh hey it’s one of THOSE games!” I stopped worrying about all the shit that was about to commence, understood that when we had possession the ball was actually a well-greased, live tilapia, and that ANYTHING could happen! Wheeee!!!

Sure, we played awfully, but did anyone think we could ACTUALLY win the game beforehand? Please. We should be thanking the team for not making it one of those heartbreakingly close affairs. I had a MUCH worse time watching the UW game. This was one of those games where you can only just shrug and laugh.

It was such a nice night in SF. Went to two bars afterwards, and had hella fun in the stands just watching the action. Cheer up, Bwians!

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 14, 2011 10:06 AM PDT reply actions  

^and I am NOT being sarcastic here!

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 14, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Spazzy…after watching USC this year yes, there were many people that thought we could beat them this year. Worse USC team this decade and we still couldn’t get it done. Very sad IMO.

by Cal_Fan2 on Oct 14, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Worse SC team coached by a guy that many people believe is inferior to Tedford

This is the worse SC team Cal has faced in the Tedford era and it was at home. No way should we be down 20-0 at the half and lose by three touchdowns.

No excuse for losing this game by more than one score. Even Vegas thought the game was going to be close. No excuse for our offense to be shut out at the half and only put up 9 points.

by SDBear on Oct 14, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree, those plays where Tedford called for interceptions and fumbles were REALLY odd.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 14, 2011 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is right, just continue to give Tedford a pass, he doesn't deserve any blame

for another loss to SC. It isn’t Tedfords fault our QB’s continue to look mediocre and throw interceptions. It isn’t as if Tedford is coaching Maynard.

by SDBear on Oct 14, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Okay guys huddle up. I wanna see you fumble around like never before. And let’s make sure those interceptions are crisp and clean! Galas, make sure your snaps go for all hours on the clock, and in random order! On break one two three BREAK!”

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 14, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Worst”

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 14, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps my pallette was tainted, but I thought the garlic fries needed moar garlic

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by carp on Oct 14, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

No no no!!! You just needed a nice oaky char to pair….

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 14, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was it more painful to watch the game itself

Or hear ESPN crew talk about Andrew Luck for the last hour of the game?

by skyo12 on Oct 14, 2011 10:33 AM PDT reply actions  

I dont care about or mind Luck anymore

I am too concerned about our own team right now.

by JustBear on Oct 14, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

1.) Weren’t we supposed to lose this game? Maybe we’ll beat those hosebags someday in the future, after the loss of scholarships takes effect. ?

2.) Thank to Odin I got season tickets and didn’t have to sit near that damn band

3.) We may still end up going to a bowl – hopefully I won’t be tempted to spend $$ on travel costs

4.) If Tedford is replaced…can anyone else really win here? I just don’y think of Cal, or Stanford or even Notre Dame, as a coaching dream job. Will definitely maintian some hope and look forward to next year.

5.) Good luck to Standurd doing anything next year (at least I hope not)

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by fuzzywuzzy on Oct 14, 2011 10:35 AM PDT reply actions  

can anyone else really win here?

good question, and I think it’s a “yes”

Thanks to Jeff and Sandy, Cal football’s not what it used to be. We get recruits, we (still) have good academics, the SAHPC is up, the stadium’s getting redone, etc.

Jeff or his replacement really needs USC-type $$$ for assistants. Get the guys you need, not the guys you can afford.

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by carp on Oct 14, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jeff Tedford proved you can win at Cal. And if he were to leave, he would leave the program in much better shape to win than when he arrived. Frankly, Tedford has done the hard part of the work in getting Cal to a position where we actually expect success.

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by Ohio Bear on Oct 14, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes Tedford has done a lot of the heavy lifting. I credit Tedford for creating a "culture of success"

in regards to our football program. He has helped change the mind set of fans from “it would be nice to have a winning season” every four or five years to a point where a losing season is unacceptable and we expect to challegen for a Pac12 crown. That in itself is huge.

by SDBear on Oct 14, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope so

But I think it’s a big gamble. The schools that seem to consistently dominate the rankins, and their opponents, are either:
 a.) In the SEC
 b.) crooked – either working with crooked agents or don’tcare to investigate and stop what you damn well should know what’s going on
c.) Not intellectual powerhouses – Stanfurd is the exception, and after Luck will leaves, they’ll have their down years too
d). Have lots of cash, either from huge fanbases or big-time donors (quack)
e). Have no pro team, or spring scrimmages with 90,000 fans in attendance
f). A combination of at least b, c, and d
g.) a = b+c+d+e(constant m)

Constant m – breeding factor for the friggin bionic monster-beasts down thar

Oh yeah, the Bay area is the highest cost of living in the U.S., so I doubt we’ll really have enough $$$ for assistants as compared to anywhere else.

Only solution I see is to keep Tedford, and have our Nobel prize winners start focusing on something important, like turning hummus into cash and helping Tedford win every game. I only care about galaxy regression if Cal is playing lights out, and the big Samoan USC fan- that seems to be a permanent fixture at every game – is crying in disbelief. But still doing the peace-sign thing because he’s a loyal dude.

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