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This Week In The Pac-12: Boring Week Is Boring

THEY LET HIM COME BACK I DON'T BELIEVE IT!  I want to bash him for being fair-weather, but it's not like any other Stanford fans showed up when Teevens and Harris were in charge.

Let's all hope that last week ends up being the least exciting, meaningful week of the season, because I'd hate to think something more boring is on the horizon.  Only Arizona St. at Utah had clear impact on the conference title race, but any drama to that game was sapped away when Jordan Wynn went down to an injury against Washington.  Meanwhile, Oregon and Stanford both won in blowouts, four of the worst teams in the conference played each other, and two of the most entertaining teams in the west had bye weeks, thus depriving us of their thrilling all-offense-limited-defense combinations.  Come back, USC and Washington!

We'll start this week's recap with the game I was most looking forward to watching.  Hey, nobody ever said I was rational!

UCLA 28, Washington State 25

One team had six scoring drives, the other team had just four.  Can you guess which team won the game?  UCLA's chances looked bleak when an on-going gypsy curse felled another quarterback on a freak injury, but it was Kevin Prince who ended up out-dueling fellow back-up Marshall Lobbestael in a tense, back-and-forth thriller.  A thriller between two teams not likely to make a bowl game, but who are we to complain?

Bruins Nation will take an unconvincing win, and also notices some weirdness in the Pac-12 South:

On the other end from ASU, all grouped together at the bottom to conserve warmth and dignity are 3 schools with zeroes in their Pac-12 win column.  We expected Colorado to struggle as they begin to re-rebuild.  Utah apparently isn't as great as they told us they were.  (Oh, that's right...Mountain West).  And Arizona surprisingly is 0-4 in conference after OSU got them.  That's right, OSU.  Of course there is that place that doesn't count (figuratively speaking.  Well, and literally, too). And in between those ends, there is U.C.L.A. at 2-1, one game back of the Sun Devils.  And we get to play them sometime, too.

UCLA is the only team with a reasonable shot to pass Arizona St. and play in the inaugural Pac-12 Championship game!  What chance do you give of that actually happening?

Star-divide

Meanwhile, CougCenter rediscovers a lost feeling:

During the debacle of the last three seasons, I forgot what it felt like to play well enough to win a game yet give it away with mistakes and missed opportunities. Dropped passes, poor throws, terrible defense at the most inopportune times, yep I remember this.

Washington St. needs three wins for a bowl.  Assuming losses to Stanford and Oregon, can they get there? This is what they have left: vs. OSU, @ Cal, vs. ASU, vs. Utah, @ Washington.

 

Oregon St. 37, Arizona 27

I'll admit that as bad as Arizona looked in losing their last four games, I thought they would look better when the quality of the opposition went down.  But I think we just have to realize that the Wildcat offensive line and defense is just that bad.

We also need to consider if this loss is the beginning of the end of the Mike Stoops era.  His team was beaten by a team without a win, and the loss was made possible because of horrible clock and game management in the last two minutes of the 4th quarter.  And remember, Stoops came to Arizona with the reputation for defense.  Right now Arizona is 116th in the nation in yards allowed/play, 115 in yards allowed/game, 118th in yards/run, 109th in yards allowed/pass attempt and 117th in points allowed/game.  Just for reference there are only 120 teams in FBS football

For Oregon St. this game was a huge step forward.  True, they won this game in part because of four Arizona turnovers and a blocked punt returned for a touchdown.  But they also rolled up 400 yards of offense and Sean Mannion was reasonably effective.

Building The Dam celebrates sweet, sweet victory, but recognizes that improvement is still necessary:

But while the team put pieces together, and responded to adversity, a good sign, this isn't a good team yet.

Good teams don't throw pick 6s when protecting double digit leads in the second half. Or need to take a second timeout after already using one.

And while penalties were greatly reduced from the 13 that were a major contributor to blowing last week's game, down to just 5, and including the bogus one on Poyer on the last drive, good teams don't take a touchdown off the scoreboard with a holding penalty away from the play.

Was Oregon State's win proof that the Beavers are getting better, or that Arizona is even worse than we thought?  Or both?

AZ Desert Swarm isn't especially pleased with their head coach:

Many times, you didn't know Saturday whether Mike Stoops even knew whether he wanted to kick the field goal or go for it on fourth down.

Stoops fate might be sealed as well. In a game that might have been the most pathetically-executed and confidence-lacking performance I've ever seen, Stoops oddly calm behavior following the game looked as if he knows he could be on his way out.

Yeah, I thought before this season that Arizona would be mediocre, and I thought that even a 5-7 record would allow Stoops to keep his gig. At some point, however, poor execution, failure to get the best of of his players (even if they aren't that talented) and poor decision-making (on the special teams side, especially) all comes down to coaching.

Should Mike Stoops be fired at some point between now and the 2012 season?

 

Arizona St. 35, Utah 14

Utah, like Cal, played an inspired, amped-up half of football in front of a loud crowd.  But their defense couldn't keep the intensity up and the offense gave the ball away five times as the game quickly unraveled in the 2nd half.  Jon Hays wasn't a disaster in his first start, but he didn't make anybody forget about Jordan Wynn either.  Utah's schedule the rest of the way is very kind (their game at Cal is arguably the toughest game left!), but the Utes will have to improve to take advantage.

House of Sparky thinks this performance was a big step forward for the Devils:

The most important takeaway from Rice-Eccles Stadium? The Sun Devils are capable of playing a good game on the road against a hostile crowd. One week before a highly-anticipated showdown against the 9th-ranked Oregon Ducks in Eugene, Brock Osweiler and the Devils now have the confidence to take on the enemy in hostile territory.

Admit it, you're already trying to rationalize Arizona St.'s success with a "They'll be looking forward to the Pac-12 championship game when they play Cal!" scenario, aren't you?

Block U tries hard to find the best pop-culture analogy:

What in the hell was that? How could the Utes play the exact same game two weeks in a row? Am I freaking Bill Murray in Groundhog Day, forced to live the same pathetic and torturous college football Saturday over and over again? 

Did Utah piss off some turnover god during their epic rout of BYU a few weeks ago? DO WE HAVE GREG BRADY'S HAWAIIAN TIKI SOMEWHERE ON THE SIDELINES?

Can Utah be competitive without a healthy Jordan Wynn?

 

Stanford 48, Colorado 7

There's really nothing meaningful to say about this game.  Credit to Stanford  for not messing around with clearly inferior opponents.  Discredit to the schedule makers for giving Stanford the most boring first half schedule possible.

Rule of Tree hasn't recapped the game yet as of my deadline, but we'll just assume that they're probably happy about things, eh?

Should a team be ranked in the top 5 in the country if their best win is either UCLA or Arizona?

Ralphie Report empasizes the positive, because when something like THAT happens, what else is there to do?

It was tough to watch, but it wasn't totally unexpected. And actually, I'm not so unhappy about how it went, either. We did a better job against the run than most teams have vs the Tree, and we moved the ball better than I expected.

Next Week

UCLA and Arizona get the week off.  We'll see if that means a better level of play in conference.  Oregon State and Utah both play the final non-Notre-Dame non-conference games in the Pac-12, thus ending our chances to embarrass ourselves until bowl season.

Thursday (sigh)
USC at Cal

Saturday
Utah at Pittsburgh, 9:00 am, ESPNU
Colorado at Washington, 12:30 pm
BYU at Oregon State, 1:00 pm
Stanford at Washington State, 4:30 pm, Versus
Arizona State at Oregon, 7:15 pm, ESPN

Well how about that - a Pac-12 game in every time slot!  Many may not have the right TV set-up to watch Utah, and neither of the afternoon games seem especially compelling, but at least the option is there.  Cal/USC should be a pretty entertaining, competitive game (I hope), but the clear game of the week, and apparently the nation, is Arizona St. at Oregon.  It's the only game all season in which the Ducks could conceivable loss at Autzen, and it's their first real challenge since losing to LSU.  Meanwhile, Arizona St. can build credibility just by playing Oregon close.  And lest we forget, this game could decide home field advantage in the Pac-12 championship game.  There's a sentence you didn't think you'd be reading two years ago!

Burning questions: Will either Oregon St. or Utah salvage some Pac-12 pride with non-conference wins?  Is there any chance Colorado gives Washington a fight, or did Stanford extinguish any life in the Buffs?  Will Wulff bring back Tuel-time for Stanford?  And does Arizona St. really have a chance in Eugene?

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This week's SBN community predictions (4-1 last week, 12-4 overall)
USC (65.39%) at Cal (34.61%)

Arizona State (5.31%) at Oregon (94.69%)

Colorado (15.8%) at Washington (84.17%)

Stanford (95.97%) at Washington State (4.03%)

3 of the 4 misses so far have been games involving one of the Pac-12 newbies. Apparently they are not who we thought they were.

"Some people watch adult videos on their computer - I go to YouTube and watch Jahvid Best highlight clips. That’s what gets me going."- Jim Schwartz, Detroit Lions head coach

by Berkelium97 on Oct 10, 2011 10:37 AM PDT reply actions  

Are these polling numbers

from the pre-season, or miraculously somehow recalculated after every week?

I support the NBA player's union.

by chowder on Oct 10, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Preseason

Or else the Utah stock would be plummeting.

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by Berkelium97 on Oct 10, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

The worst team in the Pac-12 North beats up on the 2nd worst team in the South

Wow Pac-12 North is so far ahead of Pac-12 North, it’s kind of sad.

Head to head:

Cal @ Colorado: Cal (North)
Furd @ Ariz: Furd (North)
UCLA @ OSU: UCLA (South)
Oregon @ Ariz: Oregon (North)
WSU @ Colorado: WSU (North)
UW @ Utah: UW (North)
UCLA @ Furd: Furd (North)
Oregon St @ ASU: ASU (South)
Ariz @ OSU: OSU (North)
Colorado @ Furd: Furd (North)
WSU @ UCLA: UCLA (South)

So North leads 8-3 with 2 of the south wins by UCLA (!) and all against lower teams.

Also interesting is that up until last week the road teams won the inter-divisional games.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 10, 2011 10:53 AM PDT reply actions  

FAIL
Wow Pac-12 North is so far ahead of Pac-12 North, it’s kind of sad.

Wow Pac-12 North is so far ahead of Pac-12 North South, it’s kind of sad.

Fixed. Indeed, I did not realize it was so lopsided. It’ll be interesting to see if it remains that way.

by I hate $C on Oct 10, 2011 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoops. Thanks for catching that

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 10, 2011 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was at the the Colorado @ Stanford game.

I did not hear any mention that Tiger Woods was in attendance.

by Anonymous IV at Mono Lake on Oct 10, 2011 11:01 AM PDT reply actions  

That is what makes it strange

I was there for the entire game and do not recall his name mentioned or seeing his mug on the big screen. I was sober so it must have been when I was purchasing a dog and a soft drink.
Weird?!?

by Anonymous IV at Mono Lake on Oct 10, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, you didn't miss it

They never announced he was there. I knew he was searching for tickets earlier in the week considering the game was sold out, but like norcalnick, I’m surprised the AD gave him tickets in the first place.

Then again, I imagine he’s a donor…

by RedOscar on Oct 10, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait a minute

…this game was sold out? They can’t sell out a game against a top-15 (lol) Arizona team last year, but they sell out against Colorado? Does not compute.

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by Berkelium97 on Oct 10, 2011 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not denying that it is sold out, it just seems like a very unlikely candidate for a sellout. This is the last game I thought would sell out (even over San Jose St, since that was the opener).

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by Berkelium97 on Oct 10, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the ticket office was saying they expected five sellouts and two near-sellouts. This game was supposed to be one of the “near” games, but they ended up giving everyone a seat and thensome.

There were a lot more people tailgating it seemed, as well, compared to the UCLA game. Coupled with the rain delays for the ALCS, you all not playing, and SJSU in Provo, Stanford-CU was the only major sporting event in the Bay Area.

by RedOscar on Oct 10, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Take that, 49ers!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 10, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Take that, Gregorian Calendar!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 10, 2011 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meh, he was only there because he was in town sucking wind at the Frys.com Open.

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by BearStage on Oct 10, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Flagged

for littering this post with trash.

by daveman on Oct 10, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does Tiger have the balls to come to the Big Game this year?

Doubt it. But I hope he does. The Cal crowd will boo him twice as heartily as 2009.

by TouchedTheAxeIn82 on Oct 10, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

so…if he’s there again at the next Big Game, and we boo him again, does he go into another great meltdown?

by j.lee on Oct 10, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Frontrunner.

California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!

by atomsareenough on Oct 11, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watching P12 south games is kind of like watching a cripple fight. At first it’s pretty funny, then it becomes hilarious, but it quickly starts being really sad and kind of disturbing.

But the really perverse thing is, right now, we’d probably fit pretty well in that division.

Being an Old Blue means never accepting success.

by SoCal Oski on Oct 10, 2011 11:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Looking at our remaining schedule

I think that a 5-7 record is very, very possible. In order to go 6-6 and qualify for a bowl, we would need to win at least three against these four opponents:

Utah
at UCLA
Washington State
Oregon State

I’m excluding our games against ’Furd, U$C and ASU as those games are likely not going to end up well for us.

We might be able to squeak out a win against Utah. And against UCLA, as bad as they have been, we will be in hostile territory. Wazzu is no gimme and Oregon State has just owned us recently. I actually think 3 of those 4 is going to be really tough to do, even though three of them are at “home”. If we were in Memorial, I’d give us more of a fighting chance, but I’m not sure that AT&T will give us as much of a home field advantage as I would have hoped. We’ll see how this U$C game goes this Thursday and whether the crowd can bring it or not.

by daveman on Oct 10, 2011 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Oddly, I feel somewhat good about all 4 of those games. Utah seems to be in freefall. UCLA will definitely be tough, but I think we can win there. OSU and WSU both seem down this year. So, we’ll see

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by TwistNHook on Oct 10, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

They might be low in an absolute sense, but I think WSU is actually UP in a relative sense this year.

by YleeXOtee on Oct 10, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t you all crush ASU last year? Something that none of the Pac-10 elites could do? I’d say that Erickson has trouble at that game, especially since the Sun Devils usually have one face plant against a team everyone thinks they’ll cruise over. And it usually happens in their own place, too.

As for your other games, Utah is definitely winnable now that everyone knows they have butterfingers. You all can’t possibly be worse than OSU (can you?). But the other two are basically toss-ups, so good luck with that.

by RedOscar on Oct 10, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

We did crush ASU but they didn’t have Brock Osweiller and either Plufgard wasn’t playing or wasn’t involved. We also took out their QB with a concussion. And our defense last year was significantly better than the one this year. Oh and it was in Memorial in a nice fall afternoon/evening not a night game in Tempe with a divisional title on the line.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 10, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, it wasnt a nice fall afternoon at all! It was cold and rainy.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 10, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh well I saw it on TV and all I can remember is people complaining about the seagulls (which I didn’t see until the very end)

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 10, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I was at Memorial that day and it was very wet and cold

We ended up leaving with 12 minutes to go in the game as we couldn’t take the weather anymore and the game was well in hand by that point.

Despite the weather it was a great game. Kendricks had that nice athletic pick on the sidelines.

by SDBear on Oct 10, 2011 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

IMO that was one of the more enjoyable Cal wins of the year.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 10, 2011 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Received my tickets for the ASU game today. We’ll be in Phoenix for thanksgiving and the father in law is paying for our first Cal game since the Armed Forces Bowl. How many kinds of awesome is that? ‘Yes please’ on the Sun Devil faceplant.

by joezissss on Oct 11, 2011 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hope you’ll witness a great win by the Bears!

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 11, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

That being said

If we can steal one against U$C, ‘Furd or ASU, then I like our chances, but other than Big Game 2009, I can’t really remember a recent game where the team over-achieved against a quality foe and pulled out a win. Can you?

by daveman on Oct 10, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Technically our win against ASU was over achieving if you look at the final record of each team (but in reality Cal with Riley >> ASU last year)

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 10, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

My goodness

I don’t know if this is cynicism or realism but it’s damn depressing. Come on lads, we’re gonna beat U$C! They’re nothing this year and we’re something.
(Disclaimer: I always think we’re going to beat U$C. For the record I was right in ’03.)

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by Oski Disciple on Oct 10, 2011 6:47 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m with you on both counts. My handle says it all…

by I hate $C on Oct 10, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

We also need to consider if this loss is the beginning of the end of the Mike Stoops era.

Talk about prescience!

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by BearStage on Oct 10, 2011 11:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow…Utah-Pitt and BYU-OSU? Thank goodness we don’t schedule such risky OOC games!

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by carp on Oct 10, 2011 11:17 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't even know what you're implying here but christ man give it a rest.

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by AERose on Oct 10, 2011 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

What chance do you give of that actually happening?
0.2%

Washington St. needs three wins for a bowl. Assuming losses to Stanford and Oregon, can they get there?

Yeah, it’s not out of the question that they can beat OSU and Utah, and steal one from ASU, UW, or us. I’m not saying it’s likely but I can see it happening.

Was Oregon State’s win proof that the Beavers are getting better, or that Arizona is even worse than we thought? Or both?

I’d have to say both. I don’t mean that as a copout though. I think the Beavers are getting better as they always do, but Arizona really helped them out with the turnovers and assorted mistakes. I think these are very uncertain and dispiriting times over in Tucson…. :)

Should Mike Stoops be fired at some point between now and the 2012 season?

Moot!

Admit it, you’re already trying to rationalize Arizona St.‘s success with a "They’ll be looking forward to the Pac-12 championship game when they play Cal!" scenario, aren’t you?

If they’ve got the championship game berth locked up and we have something (I dunno, bowl eligibility? Gee I hope we have that wrapped up before then) to play for as well, then maybe that will be favorable for us. OTOH, that didn’t seem to help against Washington last year.

Can Utah be competitive without a healthy Jordan Wynn?

It’s not looking like it! Though, I have absolutely no knowledge of the Utes’ QB depth chart so it’s hard for me to say. I think that the QB thing is hurting them no doubt, but I also think the transition to a major conference is proving much harder than anticipated.

Should a team be ranked in the top 5 in the country if their best win is either UCLA or Arizona?

Not this year. I’m still a bit skeptical of Stanfurd, and I want to see them have to prove they earn their lofty ranking. I had them around #8 in my poll last week, mostly because there aren’t a whole lot of other clear choices. They’re not top 5 material though.

California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!

by atomsareenough on Oct 11, 2011 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

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