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We’ll see how he does without that great offensive line.
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Somehow, I suspect they’ll be OK.
Damn it!
by Monica's Dad on Jan 6, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
no
losing his core 3 starters on his oline plus losing harbaugh and alot of the assistants
stanford will win max 9 games next year but i predict 8-4
you heard it here first
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by THESeymoreBear on Jan 6, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
Winning 8-9 games….and you say that’s a big impact on Luck? We’d be lucky to win 8 games next year.
Drinking the Kool-Aid. Pumping the sunshine. Livin' the dream. Go Bears!
I didn't realize that I was referring to us...
which I wasn’t but they just went from a 12 game winning season and dropping 4 more games MINIMUM I said, is a big drop
and i didn’t say 8-9
i said MAX 8….
puttin words in my mouth lol
Don't Tread on Me.
by THESeymoreBear on Jan 6, 2011 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
2005
The first thing I thought about when I heard this news was how great of a year 2005 would/could have been if Rodgers stayed.
Alas, being a Cal fan results in copious use of the conditional tense in all its various forms. Not to mention the word “if”.
The Bear Will Not Quit
The Bear Will Not Die
I hate to see Luck at Stanford next year
but on a personal note, its nice to see players pursuing education before NFL.
Im biased becuz im an Architecture major too.
But then, hes Furd, so who cares.
I guess the point I’m trying to make is I think the idea of “an education” in this country is overvalued. I can see the benefits of returning to school, especially if you think a very similar amount of money will be sitting on the table for you a year from now…I just don’t see an “education” as much more than a means to an end, and if it isn’t serving as a means to a better end than you’d otherwise have, I don’t see much value in it….
by Missing Barry on Jan 6, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
The lockout situation probably freaked hima bit.
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Rationally speaking, it should have freaked him in the opposite directino.
California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!
by atomsareenough on Jan 6, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
I see people say this but HE"S ALREADY LOCKED OUT. If you didn’t come out last year, you missed the boat.
Is it 100% that the lockout will occur? People say its likely, but not 100%
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No, but it’s 100% there will be a new CBA, and the existing CBA in which rookies could earn squillions will no longer be in effect by the time these guys are drafted. They can’t be signed until a new CBA is in place, whether that’s post- or in-lieu-of-a-lockout.
I see. So, its not 100% that theyll earn nothing, but it is 100% that theyll earn 78 mil contracts like now. Thanks.
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Peter King at SI says prolly this draft
So he is passing on a contract worth about $15mil for 5 years, in the hopes that he can get the same deal or better in the 2012 draft.
Agreed. No one is saying how it would have been better if Gates or Zuckerberg had stayed at school instead of dropped out. In the case of top athletes, it’s even more clearcut as there’s an actual contract out there for big money.
Well, there are Gates or Zuckerberg, but what about the other billion people we never hear about who dropped out and didnt make it.
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Oh, I agree. Dropping out in general is not a good decision. But you don’t hear about it for the successful dropouts, because they are successes and clearly didn’t need the extra year and degree. Luck has already reached that point. #1 pick in the draft is as high as it gets.
Yes, education on average leads to higher wage jobs. That doesn’t mean education is the right decision every time, though. If the decision is to go spend a lot of money on college and 4 years of your life getting a worthless degree that leads to some job you don’t enjoy that also doesn’t pay well….college might not have been the right choice. There might have been a better option out there – like learning a job/skill that doesn’t necessarily require a college degree, but gives you a better end result.
by Missing Barry on Jan 6, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
Or perhaps you enjoy being educated? If you’re just looking for training leading to money, go to vocational school. Become a plumber.
That’s a whole lot of money to spend on something you simply “enjoy”.
If you’re just looking for training leading to money, go to vocational school. Become a plumber.
Exactly, that’s what I’m getting at. If you’re going to school to end up with some $30,000 a year job that you’re not doing simply out of love of the job (assuming you need a college degree for it), it’s going to be a pretty questionable decision. Maybe to some people taking some college classes and learning whatever it is we’re supposed to learn in college is worth all that money. I’d suggest it isn’t for most.
by Missing Barry on Jan 6, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
He seems to enjoy college. Simple as that.
Probably a bad decision for him professionally, but I think this is more a Bradford situation than Locker, as has been outlined by Jake88. If he’s successful as people think he’ll be, he’ll have plenty of chances to ring in the benjamins.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 6, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, i think education and college degree is overrated in the U.S. Like some recruit said last month, about how he really wanted a Cal degree, and he said something like its a guaranteed lifetime success. Forgot who it was.
Anyways, Luck doesnt need a degree at all, to have a successful life. His life course should be more focused on football. But I thought that he just enjoys school. Enjoys taking classes and learning stuff. Especially if theres a lockout next season, then he’s gonna regret for sure, if he went to the NFL.
Hey nothing wrong with enjoying school. College is a once in a lifetime experience, and there’s still going to be more than enough money for him to live comfortably for the rest of his life on the table for him even if his stock falls, so I can definitely understand that decision.
The lockout thing is something I find very interesting, but it’s not a subject I actually know much about. What year might this lockout take place? How might it affect things? Definitely something potential draft picks should be considering.
by Missing Barry on Jan 6, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
It could occur for the 2011 season, so there might be some people (like Vereen) who are going pro, but have no job. Interesting.
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So then it seems to me Luck would have to weigh two things in terms of the lockout – the chance that he goes pro and ends up sitting around not being able to play against the chance that the new CBA does something to significantly reduce his compensation package as a top draft pick if he waits a year. I’m assuming drafted players will get signed before the lockout, but I have no idea if that’s true?
by Missing Barry on Jan 6, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
The lockout starts in March. The draft is in April. These players will be under the new terms of the CBA, whenever it is finalized.
What if the new CBA isn’t finalized until, say, August?
by Missing Barry on Jan 6, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
Can they even have a draft without a CBA? Isn’t the draft process something defined by the CBA?
by Missing Barry on Jan 7, 2011 8:27 AM PST up reply actions
Everything I’ve read has said that the draft will go on with or without the CBA. Not sure how that’ll work for signing contracts after getting drafted though. I believe the 2011 draft is the last league event covered by the current CBA. I’m looking for a citation of this, so take that with a grain of salt.
It is very uncertain now, in particular if there will even be a lock-out and how a new contract would effect the 2011 draft class.
Yahoo sports had an article yesterday which sounded authoritative, that forecast the 2011 draft class would not be covered by new salary cap rules. So, if Luck waits until 2012 he stands to get maxed at around $15 million over five years instead of Bradford levels ($78 million over 6 years). That makes Mr. Luck look like he values his college experience very highly.
The alternative is that there could be a draft, but no pro football next year, so Mr. Luck would be cooling his heals and not getting paid. Then he would get a contract the next year, maybe enter the draft again, and he would be sorry to have skipped college.
And who knows what else could happen. Say for example Miami tanks the next season and gets the number one pick ….
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-luckdecision010411
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Anyone’s who driven down Palm Drive toward the heart of the Stanford campus will tell you the Stanford experience is unforgettable and irreplaceable. It’s like driving into an F. Scott Fitzgerald novel with the modern opportunities of Silicon Valley in the backdrop. It is fun and inspiring, a place of high ideals and big dreams.
Playing out that life is certainly tempting. Going on bike rides into the Santa Cruz mountains or stopping for a burger and a beverage at the Oasis, Dutch Goose or Zott’s are the stuff of great memories.
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Who the fuck is this writer? That just made me barf all over myself.
Recruiting updates on Twitter
by CaliforniaEternal on Jan 6, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
I've fallen and I can't get up
Life Alert
NEEDED before reading that
Don't Tread on Me.
by THESeymoreBear on Jan 6, 2011 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
In response to this writer, Jason Cole’s, description of Palo Alto as an oasis from the barbarism of modern life, I say….let’s throw a brick through his windshield. That’ll show ’em.
Pax California
I more think that is overvaluing a Cal degree by the coaching staff to snake-oil sell on recruits. In this Information Age a college education in a rigorous discipline is more important than ever.
It’s a nice place for people to go watch your stupid [2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants].
Put it this way, though: If he joins the NFL this year, he’ll get tens of millions of dollars, and even if he ends his career after just a few years, he can do all the schooling he wants. He can go back to Stanfurd, get a PhD, whatever he feels like.
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by atomsareenough on Jan 6, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
If he was really smart, he’d get his degree in three years like Shane Vereen.
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by Murray, Present on Jan 6, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
As long as Harbaugh leaves it won't matter
Luck is an idiot to stay, especially if Harbaugh leaves. He won’t suffer a Jake Locker type melt down but next season could be tough on him if Harbaugh leaves.
He loses three OL, his TE, and a couple of WR’s. Plus if he has a new coach he will potentially have to learn a new playbook and offense.
Aww, who the fuck am I kidding? Harbaugh is coming back too and stanfurd will replace all their departed starters with even better athletes and win a NC next season. Such is life as a Cal fan.
Stanford has had a string of excellent recruit classes, so they’re reloading rather than rebuilding.
The next head coach will be inheriting a nice team.
Keith Gilbertson inherited a nice team, which didn’t include the QB but did include a bona fide Heisman candidate in Russell White. And we all know how that worked out.
I’m not saying Luck and Stanford can’t succeed next year without Harbaugh. But a step backwards to 7 or 8 wins is just as reasonable an expectation as a step ahead to a conference championship.
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Jan 6, 2011 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
harbaugh
is reportedly offered 8 million dollars by miami
unlike luck
he is not an idiot
Don't Tread on Me.
by THESeymoreBear on Jan 6, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
Well, my fantasy of Luck being gone next season was nice while it lasted.
I wonder if he made this choice b/c he knows Harbaugh will be returning next season too?
[Cal is] a fabulous university with a football program that typically has precious few and very fleeting brushes with success but a great many unions with failure.
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by SonofCalifornia on Jan 6, 2011 12:19 PM PST reply actions
Can I just rec the Michael Scott gif? It’s freakin hilarious and probably the most appropriate pic/gif for any post I’ve ever seen.
[Cal is] a fabulous university with a football program that typically has precious few and very fleeting brushes with success but a great many unions with failure.
--Monte Poole, Oakland Tribune, 11-30-2010
by SonofCalifornia on Jan 6, 2011 12:23 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
Welcome back Luck
Prepare for the wrath of Gabe King, Tiny Moala, Deandre Coleman, Mychal Kendricks, DJ Holt, David Wilkerson, & Cecil Whiteside
Good Luck
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by solarise on Jan 6, 2011 12:28 PM PST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
AND MY AXE.
It’s a nice place for people to go watch your stupid [2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants].
by Spazzy Mcgee on Jan 6, 2011 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Breaking news: Harbaugh to Miami
the bigger of the two fish are gone.
Link?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 6, 2011 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
Here’s one of them.
Yahoo sports says essentially the same thing as well.
[Cal is] a fabulous university with a football program that typically has precious few and very fleeting brushes with success but a great many unions with failure.
--Monte Poole, Oakland Tribune, 11-30-2010
by SonofCalifornia on Jan 6, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
oops, meant sportingnews.com has similar news.
[Cal is] a fabulous university with a football program that typically has precious few and very fleeting brushes with success but a great many unions with failure.
--Monte Poole, Oakland Tribune, 11-30-2010
by SonofCalifornia on Jan 6, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
According to the San Jose Mercury News’ Tim Kawakami, Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh “isn’t sold” on the situation in Miami with the Dolphins.
“Money talks, but Harbaugh’s looking for reasons to look elsewhere,” says Kawakami. It looks like Harbaugh is slipping away from Dolphins owner Steve Ross. NFL Network’s Jason LaCanfora suggests Harbaugh’s decision could still come down to Standford and the 49ers, allowing him to stay in the Bay Area. Per LaCanfora, Stanford’s offer was actually higher the Niners with bonuses included. At this point, the Dolphins, 49ers, Broncos, and Standford remain in the hunt.
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/40956639/ns/sports-player_news/
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by Berkelium97 on Jan 6, 2011 12:31 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Mooch to Stanford?
Or was that just a post Under-Armour bad dream?
1. Nice. I appreciate his old-school decision to enjoy college in the face of all that tempting money. I stayed for five years, after all.
2. I think it will work out fine for him. Yes, Locker gave up some money, but I still see him going in the first round. Yes, Tebow stayed, people focused on his limitations, and he still went in the first round. Bradford got hurt, still made the number one pick. Heck, even Dan Marino had a sub-par senior year and things worked out for him.
3. Moreover, what about the rest of his life? What is he supposed to do after 5 – 10 years in the league? Can’t go back to college then, and counting your money gets boring after a while (I have been told), or, if you are of Missing Barry’s cadre it is all blown on parties, ladies, and drugs.
4. I think this is good for Cal football – playing the best is more fun, and a win would be delicious.
Jason Hafemeister
I would make my money last forever, and I also think I would always be able to find worthwhile things to do with it, education or not, for the rest of my life. :)
by Missing Barry on Jan 6, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
3. Why can’t you go back to college after 5-10 years in the league? His degree in architectural design will have no bearing on his career at any point. His biggest qualification in a post-NFL career, with or without that degree, will be his NFL career. No one will care if he took an extra architectural design class or two when he was in school 10 years prior.
he must still think he can get a Dubai contract
by CalLSURoseBowl on Jan 6, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions
Didn’t Namath just get his degree?
It’s a nice place for people to go watch your stupid [2010 World Series Champion San Francisco Giants].
I WANNA KISS YA.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 6, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
1. I think you are right, professionally his NFL experience will probably have the most influence on his career path, particularly if he wants to be a broadcaster, coach, or set up a car dealership. Your last job is always your most important one. But with the kind of money he will bank, he can do just about anything he wants – set up his own design firm, set up an NGO, play investment banker, get into film, etc. An extra year of upper division study, built fresh in a fertile mind on top of recent coursework, and complemented by the broader knowledge exposure of a major university (and he can always cross the bay to hear the really interesting lectures) would be nice. I still wish I had studied more statistics, and no way I could handle trying to learn it now.
2. Listen to the aged, and learn. I went back to school at 30, and it was hard. The positive was I had matured enough (barely) as a human to not get worried when professors tried to make me look silly, and I was better at picking and choosing what to focus on. The negatives included a serious challenge to learn – I had a lot more going on in life, not free time to sit around a play with ideas or catch an extra lecture or fun class, and I think my brain had slowed down some. So, I think it is very hard to go back to school. I think very few athletes do it; I suspect they don’t fit in well socially and they don’t have a lot of career motivation. (caveat: I went to night school, and it was law school, so that might have had something to do with it.)
3. College is totally cool: you are in an environment with all these smart people willing to explain things to you, and you have the chance to actually focus on it and be surrounded by other people focused and interested. It is not so easy with mortgages, children, creaky knees, hookers, blow, etc.
4. So, good for him, just like it was good for Alex Mack.
Jason Hafemeister
One thing I’ve always thought is as much fun as being a pro athlete with more money than you can count is….going to college is an awesome experience that simply can’t be replicated. Going to college and THEN becoming a pro athlete with more money than you can count > becoming a pro athlete with more money than you can count! Once you retire from your career, you can’t just go and imitate that college experience – it’s way too unique for that.
by Missing Barry on Jan 6, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
particularly if he wants to be a broadcaster
And have to listen to that voice for an entire game?!
Please God, noooooooo!
[Cal is] a fabulous university with a football program that typically has precious few and very fleeting brushes with success but a great many unions with failure.
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by SonofCalifornia on Jan 6, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
4. I agree, good for him if he’s staying for the college experience. It can’t be replicated down the line. However, it shouldn’t be for the college education, that wouldn’t make sense.
Just to be clear, I have no problem with him staying (other than the fact that it’ll make it harder for Cal to win the Big Game next year). If he feels that this is the right decision for him, more power to him. However, I just hope that it’s for the experience and not the education because I see little justification for staying for the education.
I don’t really see what he’s getting out of the college experience. Is it listening to smart professors lecturing? It’s not like they will say, “EXCUSE ME ANDREW LUCK. YOU ARE NOT REGISTERED FOR THIS COURSE. PLEASE LEAVE. BY SITTING IN ON THIS CLASS, YOU ARE STEALING FROM STANFORD UNIVERSITY.”
Is it enjoying bike rides on the sprawling Stanfurd campus? There are many nice places you can ride your bike. Perhaps it is enjoying intellectual conversation with smart people? He can hire his own philosophy club. Is it the goofy names they have for their buildings, like Flo Mo BiMonSciFiCon? Well, I guess you can’t replicate that anywhere.
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by Murray, Present on Jan 6, 2011 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
College is a once in a lifetime experience and source of memories. I think that’s true wherever you go to school.
For most people, it’s probably not so amazing as to be worth millions of dollars but if it is to him, fine by me.
Well, I imagine one’s perspective on “millions of dollars” changes based on whether they’re making $40,000 a year or $15M a year….
by Missing Barry on Jan 7, 2011 8:29 AM PST up reply actions
Living in a small area with all your friends, lots of socializing and partying, no real world responsibilities….once you start working, that stuff changes.
by Missing Barry on Jan 7, 2011 8:28 AM PST up reply actions
With that much money you can pretty much do whatever the fuck you want, including finishing your degree and partying with 19 year olds.
Confounding decision since after getting pounded for 10-15 years in the NFL, this will likely be one of his better architecture renderings:
Too far? heh heh.
[Cal is] a fabulous university with a football program that typically has precious few and very fleeting brushes with success but a great many unions with failure.
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by SonofCalifornia on Jan 6, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
hahahahaha! oh WOW that was fucked-up
…but HELLA funny :-D
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Huh?
3. Moreover, what about the rest of his life? What is he supposed to do after 5 – 10 years in the league? Can’t go back to college then
Umm, yes he can. What he can’t do is go back to playing college football. Andrew Luck’s “college experience”, at whatever age, is never going to be a typical one. He’s a big-time football star, a future multi-millionaire, and a national celebrity. None of us have any idea what it’s like to be that kind of college student, so we can’t really compare our college years to his.
The rational decision would be to turn pro now; that’s beyond debate. And the only reason to stay is because he loves playing college football, and he wants to enjoy at least one more year on the college gridiron. That certainly could be reason enough to stay. But any notion that he needs to finish his education or continue the generic experience of being a college student is just a rationalization of a really dumb, or at least financially irrational, move.
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Jan 6, 2011 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
You are probably right about how hard it is for me to figure out what his experience is, or could be, and I see am I swimming against the current on this thread. But your comment could help me to articulate my perspective more clearly:
- to be young, strong, on a team (a team that is doing well!), improving as a athlete, and learning, and with a group of friends, and to have your whole life in front of you — that is unique and worth a lot.
- how much is it worth? to me the price he pays under the most likely scenario (that there is a new CBA that covers this year’s draft and next) to stay is:
- one year in deferred earnings
- the risk of a career threatening injury
- the risk of playing poorly (and lowering his draft stock)
- one year shorter pro football career (but who knows, maybe it will be longer because he is better trained)
I am not sure you can reduce it to a rational decision. I would say he is willing to pay a high price for that last year, a price higher than most people would pay.
Jason Hafemeister
I guess I have to completely disagree with your second paragraph. Yes, it’s financially irrational, but as economists are slowly beginning to learn, financial motives are not the only motives people have for making decisions. There could be plenty of good reasons he wants to stay that make it a “rational decision” to do so….
by Missing Barry on Jan 7, 2011 8:32 AM PST up reply actions
We actually agree, since I was intending to use a rather old-school definition of “rational”, in the manner of neoclassical, profit- and utility-maximizing “economic man”.
Luck’s decision to return is certainly reasonable, not so much for the whole finishing-his-degree stuff as for the wanting to play a 4th year with his recruiting-class teammates and otherwise enjoy another season of college football. I get it, and perhaps if I were in his shoes, I’d make the same decision myself. But I don’t think there’s any question he’s risking many, many millions of dollars by doing so. (And, yes, there is a very real difference between $15 million and $50 million—although I wouldn’t be too upset with having to settle for the former.)
Whether this is a good decision, or one he later regrets, will only be determined by future events. And his perspective might change over time. For example, I imagine that neither Sam Bradford (staying) nor Aaron Rodgers (leaving) regret their respective decisions now, but there must have been a time when both thought they had blown it. Assuming that’s the case, it’s actually a pretty good life lesson for us all: no regrets, move forward, what happens happens, and you can always make the best of an apparently bad decision/situation.
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Jan 7, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
Ah yes it does sound like we’re in complete agreement now. ;)
by Missing Barry on Jan 7, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
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by Swamphunter on Jan 6, 2011 12:56 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
my take.
he might be evaluating also, which teams are likely to pick him. Whoever has the first pic already said they’d take luck. Perhaps he doesn’t want to be Alex Smith, but Aaron Rogers. picked a little later, and let to marinate on the bench before having to save the world.
Go Bears Go
Or he could pull an Elway, throw a tantrum, and refuse to play for the team that drafted him. One of the douchiest moves in the history of professional sports, and I’m still mad that he got away with it.
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Jan 6, 2011 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
michael crabtree
did the same thing right?
Don't Tread on Me.
by THESeymoreBear on Jan 6, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
Don't think so.
Crabtree was just holding out to be paid as if he had been drafted higher (where he had been projected) rather there where he was actually drafted.
Eli Manning did pull this same stunt though. Admittedly, Elway had more real leverage as he could go play baseball.
No, he threw a tantrum, but eventually stayed with the team.
Steve Francis of the NBA did a similar thing to Elway. But he’s now a loser playing in the Vietnamese Basketball League.
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by Murray, Present on Jan 6, 2011 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
Actually he just got cut from his Chinese team.
On the other hand, he has a Ferrari and a really nice Benz and a house alongside one of Houston’s nicest golf courses.
Yeah, you're right
I was too lazy to Wikipedia it before I made my cheap shot joke.
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by Murray, Present on Jan 6, 2011 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
No, that's Eli Manning you're thinking of.
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didn’t phillip rivers do this too?
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
No you are probably thinking of Eli Manning
Eli, through his father stated before the draft that he would not sign with the Chargers if drafted by them. The Chargers drafted Eli and the Giants drafted Rivers, the Chargers and Giants then worked out a trade that swapped Eli for Rivers and a few picks in compensation.
To paraphrase...
“What better than $50 million dollars….$50 BILLION”
Someone in Palo Alto must have hooked Luck up with some pre-IPO facebook shares to stay.
Maybe Luck and Harbaugh are going to start their own football league…
This will make it that much sweeter when we beat the 'Furd in Palo Alto next year.
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F*** STANFURD.
by AndyHogan14 on Jan 6, 2011 4:44 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I’m just salivating at the prospect of an epic failure of gigantic proportions. Losing their O-Line (and our post-Alex Mack regime shows how big of a difference that can make), losing their coach, Owusu to the NFL, and the generally more-competitive Pac-12 structure, will all account for a pretty rude awakening for Luck.
We’ll beat Shamford, make no mistake, but we won’t be the first. Indeed, I think they will start to crumble after their second or third loss. The fans in particular will scatter like the roaches they are.
Shudder Andrew Luck, we come for you.
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Golden Bears Football Schedule
| Fresno St. | Sat 09/03 | W 36 - 21 |
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Colorado
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Sat 09/10 | W 36 - 33 |
| Presbyterian | Sat 09/17 | W 63 - 12 |
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Washington
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Sat 09/24 | L 23 - 31 |
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Oregon
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Thu 10/06 | L 15 - 43 |
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USC
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Thu 10/13 | L 9 - 30 |
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Utah
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Sat 10/22 | W 34 - 10 |
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UCLA
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Sat 10/29 | L 14 - 31 |
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Washington St.
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Sat 11/05 | W 30 - 7 |
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Oregon St.
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Sat 11/12 | W 23 - 6 |
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Stanford
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Sat 11/19 | L 28 - 31 |
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Arizona St.
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Fri 11/25 | W 47 - 38 |
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Texas
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Wed 12/28 | L 10 - 21 |
