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Cal Linebackers Roundtable: What Does Losing Mike Mohamed Mean?

Mike Mohamed made it a habit of punishing the Cardinal.

1. It was clear the Cal linebacking department was the biggest weak link of this whole defense, because we only had three capable linebackers to fill four spots. If we had one of either Cecil Whiteside, Chris Martin or Chris Little available to us, how much better would this group have been?

Kodiak: Dramatically better.  Part of the strength of the 3-4 is being able to rush or drop any backer at any time.  That's hard to do when one of the positions simply isn't getting it done.  Also, we could have used players who have pass-rushing ability.  Our base rush-4 look was often ineffective at getting pressure against better lines.  In fact, some of our blitz packages didn't work because our guys weren't very proficient at getting to the QB.

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Berkelium97: They would have been better, but probably not good enough to overcome losses of 37-7 and 48-14.  Maybe the Nevada game would have turned out differently, but they'd have to be some exceptionally smart freshmen to keep up with Nevada's offense.

solarise:  I'd say about 20-40% better, since Keith Browner and Price was not effective putting pressure on QBs consistently. Nevada would've still given us problems though since Martin or Whiteside would've been true freshmen.

2. Although I'll always have a special place in my heart for Mike Mohamed, I don't think there'll be that much of a dropoff at linebacker with D.J. Holt and Mychal Kendricks returning, plus all the potential young talent coming into fill the remaining two spots (Nick Forbes, David Wilkerson and Stephen Fanua inside; Cecil Whiteside, Jason Gibson, and possibly Chris McCain on the outside). Tell me why I'm wrong.

Kodiak: Sorry, I think there will still be a significant drop-off at the ILB spot.  In the games where MikeyMo was out or limited this year, we really struggled.  Neither Stephen Fanua nor Robert Mullins were able to show anything other than a tendency to over-pursue and get caught out of position.  My suspicions is that Wilkerson moves back inside and replaces MikeyMo.  However, replaced an All-league senior with a RS frosh, no matter how talented, is a recipe for growing pains.  The most touted Pac-10 LB recruit in recent memory (Vontaze Burfict) has had plenty of ups/downs within his first two years.  You could say the same thing for Chris Galippo and Devon Kennard. 

On the other hand, I think the vacated OLB spot will be addition by subtraction.  One of the young studs will be a really nice change at that outside spot.

Berkelium97: If I had to tell you why you're wrong, I'd point to the Nevada game.  I don't know how many times Holt bit on a Taua run up the middle only to have Kaepernick bounce outside for a 15 yard gain.  I can't guarantee it, but I'm sure Mohamed would not have been as fooled as often as Holt was.

However, I think the transition to the loss of Mike Mohamed will be much easier than the transition following the loss of Follett, Williams, and Felder.  We'll miss him, but we have plenty of talent at the linebacker position, though some of that talent is paired with little experience.

solarise: Injuries.


3. Cal hasn't had a true pass rusher since Zack Follett--Kendricks doesn't exactly fit the mold, although he did garner some sacks through the season. Who do you  hope will be that pass-rush threat next season?

Kodiak: I'm hoping it's Whiteside.  Because that would mean we've really got some threats on the outside.  Kendricks has some ability, but hasn't developed yet into a Follett-level terror.

Berkelium97: If there is a Follett on the team, I haven't seen him yet.  Unless one of the young guys fits the mold, we'll have to rely on Kendricks and Jarred Price.  They haven't been great at pass rushing, but they certainly haven't been bad.  I was surprised at how Price can use his size disadvantage to get past larger linemen (particularly against NFL-bound Nate Solder of Colorado).

solarise: My heart says Whiteside, but Kendricks may benefit the most with our emerging talented LB depth.


4. Project the starting
linebackers.

Kodiak: Whiteside, Wilkerson, Holt, Kendricks.

Berkelium97: Inside: Holt, Wilkerson     Outside: Kendricks, Whiteside

solarise: Kendricks, Holt, Wilkerson, Whiteside

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Kodiak: Dramatically better. Part of the strength of the 3-4 is being able to rush or drop any backer at any time. That’s hard to do when one of the positions simply isn’t getting it done. Also, we could have used players who have pass-rushing ability. Our base rush-4 look was often ineffective at getting pressure against better lines. In fact, some of our blitz packages didn’t work because our guys weren’t very proficient at getting to the QB.

This seems to rely on the assumption that Whiteside/Martin/Little would have improved our pass rush. I’m not sure that’s a safe assumption, especially with Whiteside/Martin. They might have loads of talent, but they still would have been true freshmen…

by Missing Barry on Jan 19, 2011 10:43 AM PST reply actions  

Little showed the best pass rush ability of any of our LB’s the previous year.

And, I am absolutely assuming that Martin/Whiteside as 4/5* AA’s would have been improvements over the undersized Price and the ineffectual Browner. I would have expected plenty of inconsistency – heck, we’re probably going to see that this next year since we’ll likely have two young guys at ILB. But, it’s not like that position was being well-played anyway. I’m not talking about replacing Kendricks, Holt, or MikeyMo. We’re talking about replacing the position that was a continual weak spot all year. Hindsight is 20-20, but I’d be willing to take that gamble. Not that it matters, of course. :)

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by Kodiak on Jan 19, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh I’d be willing to take the gamble, too, I’m just not sold there would be a meaningful difference. Would definitely have benefitted the team in future years, though – having the extra young talent and giving them some experience.

by Missing Barry on Jan 19, 2011 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Why are y’all down on Kendricks? He’s a Senior (I think), improved substantially last year, has shown elusiveness and has some speed. He was clearly the second best to MikeMo.

That said we’re going to miss MikeMo the most. I’d recon he was the most football intelligent of the crew out there

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 19, 2011 10:50 AM PST reply actions  

Hey, did you ever do the final Top 25 voting for after this bowl season? Did I miss it?

by Missing Barry on Jan 19, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Fuck I totally forgot. I’ll do it tonight if you want me to.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 19, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Whenever you get around to it. I’ve been looking forward to thinking about it one last time for the year!

by Missing Barry on Jan 19, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think they are down on Kendricks as run stopper, sure tackler or even as an intelligent linebacker. I think MK did a great job (that UCLA hit was perhaps the highlight of the year for me).

But the ability to pass rush was not there as one would like. He’s a BIG dude and he’s got pretty good speed, but his rush abilities aren’t elite. I think for a 3-4 attacking defense to work you need guys that can disrupt the opposing offenses with multiple positions. We lacked that at LB last year. In fact I would say it made a MASSIVE difference in our losses against USC and OSU. And perhaps to some extent against UO, UW and Zona. We just didn’t have the confusing LB pressure that disrupts QBs at this level. To give an example where we WERE successful with looks at a different position one can look at Conte in the FS position (hero of the Oregon game). His ability to move quickly, diagnose the play, and hit hard killed the Ducks’ Offense (Auburn certainly took note). We didn’t have that at LB last year.

LBs last year were serviceable, but there was no rush pressure from that group (DL was another story). And as much as I loved Mikey Mo his biggest weakness was in rushing the pass. He didn’t have great technique to disengage off pass blockers or the athleticism one would like to do the variety of twists and stunts that drives OL coaches bonkers. He is a player of above average athleticism that played above his capacities for much of his career. A true warrior and a true Golden Bear. He’ll be missed.

Say it like Ron Burgandy signing off: "Stay Classy, Bears!"

by PlayClassyBears on Jan 19, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel (and again this is uninformed opinion) that as Kendricks was the only true threat at pass rushing from the LB position (MikeMo I don’t think was the Follet-style rusher that Kendricks was supposed to be) the offenses had a easier time neutralizing him. Neither Holt nor Browner were any good at rushing the QB. Hopefully a Whiteside-Kendricks duo will open it up.

And actually in 2008 there was always a threat from Felder and Williams IIRC in addition to Follett.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 19, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Kendricks smash!

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by solarise on Jan 19, 2011 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Kendricks was/is an absolute beast out on the field. He is a very well-rounded defender; good against the run, good at rushing the QB, excellent tackling.

I wouldn’t mind cloning him x3 and having him play all 4 LB positions; yes, I would take this option over any other possible combination for next year.

by DavidsonBear on Jan 20, 2011 10:13 AM PST reply actions  

Honestly, I’d rather have Andre Carter, Tully Banta-Cain, Scott Fujita and Desmond Bishop as the starting 4 LB’s right now. With Lorenzo Alexander, Brandan Mebane and Tyson Alualu in front of them. Nnamdi on on side, Dante Hughes and Syd splitting time on the other, and Giordano and Decoud at the S spots. Random note – I realized this earlier this year, but did you know Cal has an alumni in the NFL at every single position except FB? Do you think any other college has that kind of coverage? We’re including P, K and LS here, too. I also think a team could get by with a 3 headed attack of Gonzo, Morrah, Stevens with Stevens playing FB if they have to…

by Missing Barry on Jan 20, 2011 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Manderino and Ta’ufo’ou are both drifting around at the moment.

Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com

by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 20, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Have they made NFL rosters at any point? Practice squad don’t count!

by Missing Barry on Jan 20, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Please vote in the top 25!

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 21, 2011 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

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