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First Glance - Cal Football's Defense in 2010

While thinking about what to write for the last installment of my previous series, I decided to scrap the final part and switch the focus to Cal’s 2010 Defense.  Cal’s Defense did not disappoint against UC Davis and appears to have made some changes in the way it goes about taking care of business.  One should not read too far into the results from this past Saturday because of the huge discrepancy in talent between the two teams but there are a few things we can take away from that game.  Let’s take a closer look at some of the new things Clancy Pendergast has brought to and changed with Cal’s defense that were on display during the first game of 2010.  After the jump, we will examine New Personnel Groupings (Pics), a Numerical Breakdown of Pressure Sent on Pass Plays, Pressure Schemes and Plays (Video), and other various observations.

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above: Freshmen Outside Linebacker Dave Wilkerson going for the kill

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Total Plays Defended

This was one of the easier games to review because UC Davis was limited to only 45 plays on offense (teams usually run on average 70-75 plays a game on offense).

 

Total UC Davis Offense Plays Run Pass
45 19 26

 

 

Personnel Groupings

To defend UC Davis, Cal used 2 different schemes: the 3-4 and 4-2.

 

Personnel 3-4 4-2
Total # of snaps used 30 15

 

The 3-4 looks to be Cal's base defense in 2010, having been used two out of every three snaps in the first game.  There were two variations of the front 7 in the 3-4 personnel grouping (2 Defensive Ends, 1 Nose Tackle, 2 Inside Linebackers, 2 Outside Linebackers) that Pendergast used against Davis, which were the standard alignment:

3-4-base_medium

and the moving of an outside linebacker to cover a receiver (usually in the slot) or to send pressure from this spot while keeping the other three linebackers and three defensive linemen in the box:

3-4-variation_medium

Most of the pressure Cal applied to Davis was sent out of the 3-4 personnel.  The 3-4 is very good against defending the run and as you will see in the videos below, can cause chaos when used effectively.  The 3-4 that I saw on Saturdays is what a 3-4 is SHOULD look like.

Cal used the 4-2 as well.  Usually, the 4-2 consists of four defensive linemen, two linebackers, and five defensive backs.  However, Pendergast used his own variant of the 4-2 against Davis with a personnel grouping that included two defensive linemen (mainly defensive ends but nose tackles were sometimes used), four linebackers (two inside and two outside), and five defensive backs (two cornerbacks, two safeties, and the nickel back).  A typical 4-2 defensive line consists of 2 defensive tackles and 2 defensive ends or 3 defensive linemen and a linebacker.  Pendergast's variant replaces the defensive tackles with two defensive ends in 3 point stances on the inside and lines up two outside linebackers in 2 point stances on the outside:

4-2-_medium
Why would Pendergast do this?  Simple answer: SPEED.  There is a TON of speed on the field with this personnel grouping.  By using linebackers, it adds two more players that are naturally better in coverage and will allow more blitzing and coverage options.  With fewer linemen, Cal sacrifices some run defense.  However, this personnel grouping was mainly used on passing downs against Davis and Pendergast did keep it on the field a few times in short yardage situations to mix things up.  Cal did not show much out of the 4-2 but based on my notes, the heavier and more complex pressure came from this personnel.

 

Pressure Up Front

The one thing that has loomed on all Cal football fans’ minds during the offseason: will Cal be pressuring the quarterback more in 2010?  So far, the answer is yes.  Listed in the table below are the numbers for how many rushers were sent and how frequently during all pass plays against UC Davis.  Say good-bye to the 3 man rush?  The results will be pleasing for Cal fans:

# of Rushers on Pass Plays (including sacks)
Total # of Times
3 1

4 (Front 4, excluding OLB lined up in slot)

9
4 (4th Mystery Rusher) 6
5 9
6 4

 

Pendergast was not shy on sending pressure on any down and distance situation and did a great job of attacking from the slot, edges, and middle with the linebackers and nickelback.  What I liked most about Pendergast’s playcalling is that he showed a lot of looks early on: rushed 3, mixed in 5 and  6 man blitzes, used the front 4 (refer to pictures #2 and #3 above), and sent the 4th "mystery" rusher in the first NINE PLAYS of the game. That gives any offense a lot to think about for the rest of the game.

 

Pressure Schemes and Plays

Cal ran around 10 different pressure schemes by my count against UC Davis.   Let’s take a quick look at some of the pressure schemes:

 

This scheme brought pressure with 5 rushers to one side of the offensive line and was used the most.  I like this blitz a lot because it is simple and effective.  It will likely be a staple pressure play for the defense this year.

  • The first clip shows OLB (Kendricks) lined up in the slot.  He inches closer to the QB and blitzes the outside along with the ILB (Holt) to pressure the right side of the offensive line.  Note how the slot receiver, who Kendricks was on at first, caught the pass and picked up yardage.  If a different route was run, a first down could have been picked up due to how far back the defender was.  Something to think about when blitzing.
  • The second clip shows basically the same blitz concept being executed from the standard 3-4 front (as opposed to the first clip where on OLB was lined up in the slot) and providing pressure to the left side of the offensive line
  • The third clip shows the versatility of this blitz.  On this play, the distance is 2nd and 2 so it could have been either a pass or run play.  Davis ran play action.  The OLB (Browner) rushes the outside while the ILB (Mohamed) is bringing pressure up the middle.  Mohamed makes a read on the handoff.  If there is no handoff, he continues on his path and gets after the QB.  This play allows the linebackers to both run blitz and rush the passer with quick and easy reads.
  • The last clip shows pressure coming from the right side.  Essentially, it's a mirror of the blitz in clip 1 of this highlight.

 

 

This video consists of the 4th rusher along with the 3 defensive linemen who rush the quarterback on any given play while coming out of the 3-4 standard front.  There are 4 highlights and the 4th rusher comes from the left outside linebacker (Browner) in the first clip, right outside linebacker (Browner, who gets a sack) in the second clip, left outside linebacker (Price) in the third clip, and right inside linebacker (Forbes) in the fourth clip.  So far, there is no real pattern as to who gets sent and when, so offenses will be continuously guessing who is coming from where.

 

 

This last video gives us a taste of the type of pressure that was sent from the 4-2. 

  • The first clip shows Cal sending 6 guys (4 linebackers and 2 defensive ends) to get after the QB.  They successfully force him out of the pocket and to pass while on the run. 
  • The second clip shows another playcall where Cal sent 6 guys (2 defensive ends, 3 linebackers, and the nickelback).  The QB let go of the ball quickly and the pass hit his receiver in the hands but was dropped. Note the Cal safety that would have leveled the receiver if he caught it. 
  • The last clip shows some of the backups executing a 6 man blitz.  The backups have some work to do.

 

Miscellaneous Observations

  • The front 7 will be playing more 1 gap this year.  The defensive linemen were penetrating gaps instead of just occupying blockers against Davis.  I won’t get too much into gap play, but this different approach will help to open up lanes for other defenders/blitzers to get into the offensive backfield
  • There was plenty of pre-snap movement from the linebackers and secondary faking the blitz and keeping the offense thinking.  It's good to see this being implemented a lot more by the defense.
  • Much more man coverage and jamming of receivers at the line of scrimmage to throw off the timing on routes than in recent memory.
  • Starting linebackers are playing with more confidence.  They have a better grasp on things and the younger backups will come along with time over the course of this season.  However, I still feel that Cal needs a more formidable pass rushing linebacker(s) if they are going to be an elite defense.
  • It looks like players are taking better angles, tackling well, and flying to the ball to help finish a tackle.  I am pleased with what looks like improvement from last year in these areas.

 

The players really like this defense.  Pendergast calls plays that allow guys to take turns pressuring the quarterback.  There is not just one designated rush linebacker a la Follett.  Opportunities to raise hell in the offensive backfield appear to be more plentiful.  There are still many questions that need to be answered and we will find out more about our defense in the next few weeks.  Until then, GO BEARS!

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I always wanted to write something like this but never have the time. Huge props Cali49a!

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by solarise on Sep 8, 2010 12:24 PM PDT reply actions  

I always wanted to write something like this but never have the timebrains.

I mean, if we’re being truthful and all…….

I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.

by BTown85 on Sep 8, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL!

Absolutely – this stuff is awesome and light years beyond what we read in the press by the “pros”. Thank you!!!

by The Shibuya Dog on Sep 8, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Biggest Concern from Davis game

The most concerning thing I saw about the defense in the Davis game was how easily the Davis QB was able to make pass rushers miss. The scheme+players did a good job getting players to the QB, but he too often made them miss. I’m hope they improve on that before they face even more elusive QBs.

Overall, these seems like a feast or famine defense, blitzes to force bad plays, failed blitzes allowing big plays. Should be exciting to watch. Hopefully, it ends up being exciting in a good way more often than not.

Great post, rec’d.

by jali on Sep 8, 2010 12:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Agreed

I seemed strange that a team as quick/talented as Cal was letting guys get away in the backfield way too easily. Sure, it’s early in the year, but thank goodness we didn’t get stuck with the level of opponents such as Oregon St., Washington, and UCLA has to confront in week one.

by Lucky1715 on Sep 8, 2010 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

the Davis QB was able to make pass rushers miss.

When I said “Cal needs a more formidable pass rushing linebacker(s),” that is one of the things I had in mind. There were too many times where defenders were within an arm’s reach and the QB got away and threw the ball away. I think I have at least 3 plays like that in the youtube clips.

I agree with the feast/famine thought as well.

by Cali49a on Sep 8, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Generally, the more pressured a college QB is, the more likely they are to make an inaccurate throw—especially with all the pass-happy offenses in the conference that depend on timing and pocket protection. Unless his name is Jake Locker, making a college quarterback have to worry about defenders and evade tackles feels like a bonus.

What will be interesting is when the blitzes are picked up by a strong O-line. Then we’ll see whether we can trust our secondary with one-on-one or deep zone coverage.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Sep 8, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't get to see the game but.....

in the clip I did see us get a MONDO rush on the QB that looked like a sure sack only to have Davis throw a pretty little screen pass that makes us look like a bunch of over-caffeinated freshmen. SOMEONE’s got to be thinking “Hey, this is too easy” and start looking over their shoulder or our heavy pass rush is going to get eaten alive.

Did that happen to us alot or just that one time?

I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.

by BTown85 on Sep 8, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Davis throwing screen passes or looking like over-caffeinated freshmen?

by Cali49a on Sep 8, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. That’s the main weakness of blitzes—if you have a line that can get downfield blocking, screens will give you a positional advantage everytime because so many men have zoned in on the quarterback.

It’s why I doubt we’ll big blitz too much this season (mostly one guy, maybe two, rarely three). Most quarterbacks in the conference are capable of throwing screens.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Sep 8, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pass-happy offenses in the conference?

Total pass attempts by All Pac 10 schools 2009: 4009
Total rushing attempts by All Pac 10 schools 2009: 4410

What will be interesting is when the blitzes are picked up by a strong O-line. Then we’ll see whether we can trust our secondary with one-on-one or deep zone coverage.

Definitely agree.

by Cali49a on Sep 8, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was referring to Arizona, Furd and Washington, all of whom are likely to be pass first teams. Some teams are very run-heavy too.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Sep 8, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know what you are trying to say, but Furd rushed 537 times and passed 313 times in 2009. Washington passed the ball 397 times and rushed it 390 times. UA, OSU, and WSU had the biggest discrepancies in rush/pass ratio.

by Cali49a on Sep 9, 2010 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Furd last year = Toby

Furd this year = no Toby

by LeonPowe on Sep 9, 2010 2:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice work

Generally, I think it’s great that we’re seeing a variety of rushes and blitzes. The hard part is determining if they would have been successful against a more athletic o-line, since in some of those cases I thought the o-line matched up but just got bulled over. I guess we’ll find out a little more on Saturday.

by sec119 on Sep 8, 2010 1:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Simply awesome

Thanks for putting this together.

I like the 4-2 (speed package) as an innovative wrinkle. It reminds me of what the Giants did during their Super Bowl run when they subbed in four DE’s in passing downs.

I’d agree that my worry with these looks is what happens if our LB’s don’t get there in time. A really mobile QB could cause trouble (Nevada) and a really accurate QB with a short passing scheme might also be tough. (AZ) I suppose I shouldn’t be looking ahead, but I’m curious to see what might be different for those two offenses.

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by Kodiak on Sep 8, 2010 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Don’t forget about Oregon’s offense!

by Cali49a on Sep 8, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t. But after reading all of Hydro’s posts, just typing “Oregon” has me curled in a ball crying under my desk.

I figure if we can’t hang w/ Nevada and AZ, the game w/ Oregon could be really ugly.

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by Kodiak on Sep 8, 2010 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Buck Up

We’re playing the Dux in Berkeley and they are an entirely different team away from that stadium. Besides, Cal is no New Mexico. Buck up, my friend, it’s not that bad

by Jack McCoy on Sep 9, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very good points.

Thanks, bud. You made my day. :)

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by Kodiak on Sep 9, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thx for this

Starting linebackers are playing with more confidence. They have a better grasp on things and the younger backups will come along with time over the course of this season.

Holt in particular, based on what I saw. It looks like things may finally be clicking for him. He looked more comfortable and decisive, particularly in pass coverage, where he nearly had a pick on 2 separate occasions.

by BlueOskiCult on Sep 8, 2010 3:01 PM PDT reply actions  

I actually thought Holt played alright last season. Maybe I wasn’t looking closely enough, but I never recall him making huge fundamental errors (maybe playing too strict in coverage or getting blocked out of the play), but he never oversold on the run or missed many tackles.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Sep 8, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't disagree...

I don’t mean to imply that he made a fool of himself last year. But there’s a difference between simply being out there and not making huge fundamental errors and taking that next step to becoming a difference-maker (as all my friends who saw him play in HS have sworn up and down he would be).

And what I saw from Holt in re-watching the game was a guy who finally may be ready to take that step. He just looks more…well, comfortable and decisive than what I remember from last year. I realize that a certain portion of this derives from the schweet new scheme, but I’m hoping that a fair bit represents real growth as a player as well.

by BlueOskiCult on Sep 8, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Holt was solid in run support last year and a step slow in pass coverage. This year, he looks much more decisive and instinctive. The same goes for Kendricks. I don’t really have a good basis of comparison for Browner.

I wonder how much of this is the additional experience and how much is the scheme allowing the guys to play fast.

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by Kodiak on Sep 8, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

there’s a difference between simply being out there and not making huge fundamental errors and taking that next step to becoming a difference-maker

And what I saw from Holt in re-watching the game was a guy who finally may be ready to take that step. He just looks more…well, comfortable and decisive than what I remember from last year.

That is basically what I thought. My notes on Holt say “quicker decisions, gets to the ball faster, more comfortable with his role”

by Cali49a on Sep 8, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

But I do agree he stood out on Saturday. Very strong technique and form. He’s looking a lot like Worrell Williams.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Sep 8, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes! All throughout my rewatch I was trying to see who he reminded me off. He really was a lot like WW

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Sep 8, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

DJ HOLT!!!!

CGB: Come join the LOLigarchy

by Spazzy Mcgee on Sep 8, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had the same thought as you.

We need a photoshop of this stat!

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by Avinash Kunnath on Sep 8, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

CGB: Come join the LOLigarchy

by Spazzy Mcgee on Sep 9, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

*needs a regular white background

/notracist

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Sep 9, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been waiting for this post, so thanks. Hopefully, we can get a weekly breakdown of the defense, just so we can get an idea of how Clancy’s defense differs from Gregory’s. I am itching to see how the defense performs against better competition.

A few thoughts:

1. I know that everyone’s worried that we may get burned with too much blitzing, but I have confidence that Clancy’s defense is going to change and adapt depending on our opponent. Against a team like AZ, maybe we won’t be blitzing as much. But against a RS FS QB, you better hope we bring the pressure (GREGORY AHHHHH!!!!!) I have a ton of confidence in Clancy to gameplan accordingly and also to make in-game adjustments (DAMN YOU GREGORY!!!! fist shaking wildly)
2. I really like how we are trying to throw off the timing of the opposing QB’s and receivers by applying pressure and jamming the receivers
3. Love the 4-2 in obvious passing downs. Seems to be a way better alternative to a 3-man rush in obvious passing downs. [ibid gregory above]. As an aside, the 4-2 defense is my favorite formation in NCAA 2011, so obviously Clancy is playing a lot more PS3 than Gregory. thank god!
4. To my untrained eye, it seemed like the Safeties are a lot more aggressive under Clancy’s system, or am I just seeing things. It seemed like the Safeties had super deep coverage responsibilities under Gregory and their one job was to prevent anyone from getting by them. It seems like the safeties under Clancy are more ball-hawking and are looking to break up any passes over the middle (ala vintage SC defenses). Whether this will be beneficial down the road, we will have to wait and see.
5. Bottom line is that Clancy has seen the most complex offenses in the universe, so you gotta think that nothing at the college level is going to take him by surprise. Better in-game adjustments and a more deceptive/adaptive/imaginative defense is why Clancy will end up being better than Gregory.

by phillaak23 on Sep 8, 2010 3:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Though I would love to do a weekly breakdown of the defense, you probably will not see a post of this level of detail for a few weeks. It’s too time consuming.

The safeties still have very similar responsibilities as last year and they really did not do much against Davis. Most runs were stopped around the line of scrimmage, the safeties would sometimes pick up a receiver assigned to a defender blitzing, or provided help over the top. My initial thought is that Conte is much better in the safety role. He seems more at ease back there to me. But that’s all I am going to comment on about the secondary at this point until I get to see more of them.

the 4-2 defense is my favorite formation in NCAA 2011, so obviously Clancy is playing a lot more PS3 than Gregory.

hahaha

by Cali49a on Sep 8, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m also encouraged by the new look of the defense, both in terms of bringing more exotic pressure packages, and in terms of looking generally more aggressive and trying to dictate terms to the offense. I’m actually not that bothered if we get burned once in a while and give up a quick score — at least if it’s a quick score the offense has more time to come back and match it. And I’m not worried about the lack of actual sacks (yet); the pressure still clearly rattled the Davis QB and affected his decision-making.

Certainly we will see what happens against teams with more talent and more experienced QBs, but so far so good.

by sycasey on Sep 8, 2010 4:57 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m actually not that bothered if we get burned once in a while and give up a quick score — at least if it’s a quick score the offense has more time to come back and match it.

I’m worried. I’m still not comfortable with this offense :(

I’m not worried about the lack of actual sacks (yet); the pressure still clearly rattled the Davis QB and affected his decision-making.

I agree, though, the thought looms in the back of my mind. The pressure did rattle their QB and the playcalling was affected as well.

by Cali49a on Sep 8, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great work

Thanks for taking the time to break this down.

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by Berkelium97 on Sep 8, 2010 6:09 PM PDT reply actions  

You are very welcome!

by Cali49a on Sep 8, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

This post was also selected as a SBN Bay Area Editor’s Pick. Congratulations.

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by TwistNHook on Sep 8, 2010 8:06 PM PDT reply actions  

No problem. Lots of work, but I enjoyed uncovering things.

by Cali49a on Sep 9, 2010 2:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love these posts, thank you very much. I don’t know much about defense at all, so these definitely help me get up to speed.

Cali49a, you obviously know your stuff. What’s your background? Player? Coach?

Thanks again.

by KikiRevenge on Sep 9, 2010 7:26 AM PDT reply actions  

I am happy to hear that this post has been helpful to you. My goals were to make an easy read and keep the reader’s attention all the way through. I hope readers of all football backgrounds were able to follow everything in this post.

I’m a quarterback of the Sunday morning variety. And a Marshawnthusiasts! groupie.

by Cali49a on Sep 9, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’re not a fan of the Follettariat? norcalnick is livid! :)

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by solarise on Sep 9, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

i also like how the DB’s were in the same zip code as the receivers.

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by carp on Sep 9, 2010 8:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Cal Sucks

I’m a huge Pac 10 fan and watch nearly every game. I used to have no real opinion of Cal but have grown to dislike them over the past several years. After you guys beat a very powerful USC team a few years ago my neighbor would come by on a weekly basis and tell me that this “is the best Cal team ever”. Well I drank the cool aid and bet heavily on Cal in some key games (Holiday Bowl against T Tech). Got my rear handed to me. Cal didn’t even show up. HOw is this team ever ranked in the top 25. All they do is choke their final fews games. Plus that Stadium is a dump. Why any player would go there is beyond. Me. 3-6 in conference for you this year.

by lakeoswegodave on Sep 10, 2010 12:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Well I drank the cool aid and bet heavily on Cal in some key games (Holiday Bowl against T Tech). Got my rear handed to me.

You forgot to say “thanks.” But I’ll be the bigger person here and be courteous, so “You’re welcome!”

by Cali49a on Sep 10, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, what a joker. Oh no, you lost some money, so therefore we suck!

by atomsareenough on Sep 10, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you very much for taking the time to visit our site and offer your opinion. As always, we welcome well-argued and well-thought out arguments.

You certainly have represented yourself well. I am sure that all of us have a new-found respect for the fine residents of Lake Oswego – or at the very least, think of the area and see its denizens in a new light.

I am reminded that “class always speaks for itself.” Thanks again for dropping by.

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by Kodiak on Sep 10, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew there was a reason I hated Lake Oswego!

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by TwistNHook on Sep 10, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dave’s not here, man.

Today's the day the California Golden Bears have their picnic.

by zoonews on Sep 10, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Srsly dude? Golf Tango Foxtrot Oscar!

by OaktownAggie on Sep 10, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, that was uncalled for. I simply believe that your proffered arguments are without merit for such a determination. As such, I do invite you engage forthwith in debate with additional arguments whereby I hope that I can convince you otherwise.

by OaktownAggie on Sep 10, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, I believe your original thoughts were clear, concise, and entirely correct.

They say the works of Shakespeare would take a thousand monkeys with a thousand typewriters one thousand years to duplicate.

The arguments in question? One lobotomized lab ape horked on meth with an etch-a-sketch.

/Fun Kodiak

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by Kodiak on Sep 10, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times? Stupid monkey!

by LeonPowe on Sep 12, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s “Flavor-Aid.” The adherents and residents of the People’s Temple in Guyana actually drank “Flavor-Aid” not “Kool Aid” or even “Cool Aid.”

It’s interesting how much Jim Jones was tied up in San Francisco City politics – even being very crucial in the election of Mayor Moscone.

by LeonPowe on Sep 12, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t find corroboration, but legend has it the California Conservation Corps center where I live was at one point owned by Jim Jones. It wouldn’t terribly surprise me, after all, the Buddhist monastery down the street used to be the Mendocino County Hospital.

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
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by AERose on Sep 13, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really want to act classless like a typical Furd, fUCLA or USC fan but I can’t do it today. I’m too happy. So… welcome!

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Sep 13, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think anyone was a classless fan, save for me. I was probably closest.

by OaktownAggie on Sep 13, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been a classless fan, but only during basketball season.

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