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Re-Opening Old Wounds, Revisiting 2009 Cal @ Oregon Part VI: The Zone Read Play Action

In case you missed the previous posts in this series, you may find them here: Part I: The DL Zone Read.  Part II: A Defensive StopPart III: Baited & BustedPart IV: Passing to DicksonPart V: Passing to Dickson, Again.

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When a pro-style offense, utilizing the I-Formation or a single-back formation, can consistently run the ball against the defense with ease and success, the linebackers (LBs) will begin to start over-playing the run.  In other words, they'll start looking for the run threat on every play, start inching forward towards the line of scrimmage (LOS) before the snap, and lean towards the LOS on their toes to gain momentum. 

The offense will take advantage of these linebackers looking out for the run by executing playaction plays, where the offense will fake the run, to draw the LBs down towards the LOS, to open up a void behind the LBs so that the offense may pass over them.  Cal does exactly this. 

But when watching the 2009 Cal @ Oregon game, I began wondering how a shotgun zone read offense like Oregon runs playaction?  Can they?  Is it even possible? 

The answer: yes.  You can still play action out of the shotgun zone read.  Things are slightly different when a shotgun zone read offense does it compared to an I-Formation or single-back formation offense -- I'll get to that later.  But for now, let's just take a look at what Oregon is doing.

Dickson's 6th Catch:

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Above is the pre-snap formation.  Oregon is facing a 1st and goal from the 10 yard line in the second quarter.

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Oregon has 11 personnel out of the field (3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 RB). 

 

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They motion the TE, #83 Dickson, across the formation away from the twin WRs.

 

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Above is the picture just prior to the snap.  Oregon fakes the zone read.  The QB, and the RB will mesh to give the appearance of a zone read. 

(Note: we know this is a playaction zone read, rather than a zone read / pass option because of the blocking technique of the offensive linemen (OL).  The OL has dropped back into pass protection, rather than bursting off of the LOS into the defense.)

Well, let's take a step back and talk about the zone read, and how to defend the zone read.  Remember in my Defensive Line Zone Read post, I talked about how to defend the zone read?  I mentioned how if the defense is not running a scrape-exchange, that the defender being read needs to to just wait and see what the QB does with the ball then react. 

In a zone read playaction play, the offense is punishing the defender being "read" for doing the right thing!  In other words, the offense is attacking, and punishing the defender for sitting tight, waiting to see what the QB does with the ball, then reacting.  (remember, the defender being read is not actually being read because it's a playaction pass; however the offense wants to give the defender the impression he's getting read)

On this particular play, the defender being read is the LB #9 Young, because he's the backside defender (zone reads "read" the backside defender -- the defender whom the play is being run away from).

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Cal linebacker #2, Young, is the one getting read (but not really -- the defense just wants to make him think like he's getting read).   Young thinks he's the defender getting read and freezes, as he's supposed to do when the offense is running a zone read and reads him, to see what the offense does with the ball. 

In the defender's mind, he's doing everything right!  He thinks the offense is running the zone read.  His job is to not bite on the handoff to the runningback thus allowing the QB to keep the ball and run to the outside on his side of the field.  So he does what he's taught and that's to sit tight, freeze, wait, and see what the QB does with the ball. 

But that's exactly what the offense wants!  And that's the wrong thing to do because this play is NOT a zone read, it's a zone read playaction.  Because the linebacker, #9 Young, freezes to see what happens, he allows the TE to run past him and loses sight of the TE.  If Young bites on the fake handoff to the RB, that's even better for the offense because that makes the void to make a catch even bigger.

 

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As you can see from the picture above Young is looking at the QB/RB mesh exchange (green vision cone) to see what is happening.  He is trying to determine whether the QB will hand off the ball or keep the ball (to either run or pass) because to him this play looks like a zone read.

 

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But as we all know, it's not a zone read.  The Oregon TE, Dickson, runs a flat route past the unsuspecting Cal linebacker Young.  The WR to the offense's left runs what appears to be a deep comeback -- the Oregon QB also has the option of passing to this player should he be open and Dickson is not.

 

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The Oregon QB, Masoli, sees the open TE (green vision cone) and passes the ball (yellow dot). 

Note how the Cal LB's back is turned to the TE.  The play is behind the LB because he was frozen by the playaction.

 

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Dickson catches the ball for an easy gain of 9 yards to the 1 yard line.  Note how far the LB is from Dickson on this play.   He's a good 5 yards away from Dickson, and is still turning his body around after losing sight of the TE in his zone.

 

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To see why an offense play succeeded, we also need to look at the defense and see what they were doing.  What was the defense doing on this play?   Cal comes out in its base 3-4 defense.  I've shown that above.

 

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Cal seconds three pass rushers at the QB. 

 

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Cal drops its four LBs into coverage, and the four defensive backs (DBs) also appear to drop into coverage (they're off the screen so it's hard to tell).  What do we have here?

Looks to me like we have a quarters defense with four underneath zones.  A quarters defense is a defense which has four deep defenders (usually two safeties and two cornerbacks) whom each cover 1/4th of the deep zone.  The underneath coverage is typically zone too, and in this case it is with four underneath zones (all LBs).

Why does this play work against the quarters defense?  Well, one of the traditional weaknesses of the quarters defense is the short areas immediately along the sidelines, just outside of the areas covered by the underneath outside zones.  In other words, in this play, the weakness is the area between Cal linebacker Young and the sidelines -- and that's right where Oregon threw the ball. 

Even if the Oregon play was just a regular passing play rather than the playaction play, they still might have targeted that area of the field.  It's just that the playaction made the play work even better before the reasons that I explained out above but will repeat one more time: 

 

In the defender's mind [the one who thinks he's getting read], he's doing everything right!  He thinks the offense is running the zone read.  His job is to not bite on the handoff to the runningback thus allowing the QB to keep the ball and run to the outside on his side of the field.  So he does what he's taught and that's to sit tight, freeze, wait, and see what the QB does with the ball. 

But that's exactly what the offense wants!  And that's the wrong thing to do because this play is NOT a zone read, it's a zone read playaction.  Because the linebacker, #9 Young, freezes to see what happens, he allows the TE to run past him and loses sight of the TE.

Unfortunately for Cal linebacker #9, Young, he just got played, and played very well.  The defense took advantage of him doing what he's been taught is the proper thing to do.  At the very most, Young might have tried to keep a better awareness of the TE's location.  Young looks really bad on this play because his back is to the TE, and Young gets all turned around.  A person might think Young was better off turning his body towards the sideline once he realized the play was a playaction and he was supposed to drop into coverage.  However turning his body towards the sideline would turn his back to the majority of the field, as well as the QB, where he would have absolutely no awareness of what else was going on around him other than the TE he was looking at along the sideline.  I do not think that is proper technique.  I think the coaches teach all the defenders, when they are playing zone, to turn their backs towards the sideline, rather than turning their backs towards the center of the field.

You may see this play in video form by following this link (clicking on the link will open up a youtube video that I have pre-set to start at the appropriate time):   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voPki5ooako#t=4m19s

 

Dickson's 9th Catch:

I'm just going to ruin the surprise here.  As you've probably noticed from the other parts of my series, Oregon has been running the same play over and over again against Cal.  They ran the Defensive line zone read against Cal two consecutive plays in a row, they ran the "sprint out pass to Dickson in the flat" play at least five times during the game by my count, and they're going to run this zone read play action play some more.

Let's take a look at it.

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Above is the pre-snap picture. 

 

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Oregon has 11 personnel out on the field (3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 RB).  Notice anything about the formation?  Yup, same as above just flipped.

 

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Just like the last play, Oregon motions Dickson across the formation to the "backside" of the formation if this were a real zone running play ("backside" is the side of the formation where the play is being run away from).

 

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Here's the post-snap picture.  Again, Oregon fakes the zone read.  The QB and RB mesh.  The TE, Dickson, runs his flat route right past the Cal linebacker who is being "read" (but not really!).

 

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This zone read look, freezes the Cal linebacker, this time #30 Kendricks, who stops to look (green vision cone) at the QB/RB mesh to see what is happening.

 

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That's all that Oregon needs to open up a small void along the edge of the field in the area between Kendricks and the sidelines.  The QB, Masoli, passes the ball (yellow dot).

 

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Oregon TE #83 Dickson catches the ball (yellow dot) and walks untouched into the endzone.  Note where Cal LB #30 Kendricks is in this picture.  Well away from the play, and still in the box because he was frozen from the fake zone read.

 

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What was the defense doing on this play?  Above is the pre-snap picture again.  Cal is its 3-4 defense.  Please note that a CB is off the screen at the very bottom covering an Oregon WR.

 

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The coverage, is the same defense as last time.  Quarters coverage, with four underneath zones.  As you can see, I've shown where Cal LB #30 Kendricks should be on this play after the snap.  He's hasn't dropped back yet, and achieved the depth he needs to, to defend against the pass.  This is that void where the Oregon TE Dickson will make his uncontested catch. 

You may see this play in video form by following this link (clicking on the link will open up a youtube video that I have pre-set to start at the appropriate time):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voPki5ooako#t=8m34s

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVnjYGD_ewE#t=1m8s

 

Conclusion:

When an offense utilizing the I-formation and/or single-back formation (like Cal does), and wants to run a playaction pass play, they are usually targeting the middle of the field.  That's the area where the voids will occur when the linebackers bite down because of the deception from the fake hand-off to the runningback. See below:

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I've photoshopped the above picture to show the QB under center, and the RB directly behind the QB in a single-back formation.  When the offense fakes the aggressive north/south handoff (yellow arrow), it will usually bring the linebackers directly down towards the line of scrimmage (blue arrows), leaving a void behind the linebackers (green area) where the offense can complete easy passes.

For a great example of this, see Cal WR Marvin Jones' touchdown catch against Stanfurd in the 2009 Big Game (clicking on the link will open up a youtube video that I have pre-set to start at the appropriate time): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP1MMgcFBw4#t=2m55s

However, things are slightly different when the offense is running a bit more east/west, rather than north/south.

Because the Oregon offense is a shotgun spread zone read offense, their run plays usually are angled more horizontal -- that is east/west towards the sidelines.  This is due to the fact that the QB is in the shotgun, and the RB is not directly behind the QB thus providing the north/south angle of attack on run plays.

[footnote: teams that do want to provide a more north/south angle of attack on run plays despite putting their QB in the shotgun will then utilize the pistol formation.]

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Because Oregon's shotgun zone read offense is running a little more horizontally (east/west), rather than vertically (north/south), the threatened area of the fields are to the outside rather than the middle of the field.  And thus, not only does a void form behind the linebackers should they come to the line of scrimmage really hard on the fake (big green area), but also to the backside of the run and away from the direction of the run (smaller green area). 

That smaller backside area, away from the direction of the run, is the area that Oregon is attacking with their zone read play action.  In fact, this zone read play action play is fairly similar to a more traditional naked QB bootleg where the offense will fake the run in one direction to get the defense flowing in that direction, then bootleg the QB in the opposite direction and complete a short small pass to a TE or FB who is running in the opposite direction of the flow.

For a great example of this, see this play of Notre Dame against Washington (clicking on the link will open up a youtube video that I have pre-set to start at the appropriate time): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgYBtS0uoEA#t=0m30s

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Another great ( but depressing) post

You mentioned that they ran this play at least 5 times. In your examples they are 2-2, 2 TDs. Did we ever manage to stop it? If so, how?

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by OskiMonsta on Sep 8, 2010 4:41 AM PDT reply actions  

I did not chart the entire game. I only charted most of the 1st and 3rd quarter, and viewed all of Dickson’s catches. I saw them run this play only twice based on my records, although they might have run it a few more times in areas of the game that I did not view/chart.

So to answer your question, I do not think we stopped this play at all.

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by HydroTech on Sep 8, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Excellent Write-up

Really good detailed explanation. When I was coaching HS ..we were an I-formation team and Playaction boot with flood concept works great. Its actually perfect cover 3 beater..but it works vs Quarters too. The only time I think we had trouble is when you bring pressure on the backside of the flood area..it has to be quick pressure though. Beating playaction is TOUGH. One thing the LBs imho should have did though was at least reroute the receiver ..the TE was getting free releases.

by Minotstatebeav on Sep 8, 2010 6:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Thanks.

So when you mean “bring pressure on the backside of the flood area,” you mean that you’d try and get a defender in hot pursuit of the QB?

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by HydroTech on Sep 8, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

To some extent, I think we had this when we played Oregon in 2008, with Follett chasing down Masoli from the back side several times. Of course, it helped that Masoli’s passes were way less accurate that day.

by sycasey on Sep 8, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

What I mean about pressure..

In this example..you have to gum up the receivers routes long enough for your pressure to get to the QB…its not easy…but thats the best way to screw it up. Bring pressure to where the playfakes happen is what I mean. Zach Follett was excellent at doing that lol. I’ve always liked defenses that reroute receivers though…it messes with offensive timing so much.

by Minotstatebeav on Sep 8, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the idea of re-routing the receivers. This is something that Cal did not do a lot of last year. I like your thought.

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by HydroTech on Sep 8, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Catch-22

The only problem with that is that if you get caught on a run play going your direction you are all of a sudden being blocked and that frees up the runner to take better angles and thus more yards. It’s always a Catch-22…but a little bit more of a jam would be ideal. The problem is when you have a TE that can run/block/catch. Because he will just dominate you one way or the other.

by PlayClassyBears on Sep 8, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, when defending the zone read playaction pass, can the LB be expected to determine that the OL is dropping into pass protection as the play develops to read the pass and know the TE has become his responsibility? Since both Young and Kendricks bit on the fake it seems unlikely that was taught. I’m going to guess that’s a lot to ask of the LB and maybe unrealistic.

Is there something else that can be done out of this defense to better defend this type of play? Or is it just not a good defense due to Oregon attacking the weak part of the short zone out against the sidelines?

by abaddon on Sep 8, 2010 7:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Yes, I suppose that the LBs can key in on the OL to determine whether the play is run or pass. However that split second of looking away from the ball could cause the LBs to lose sight of the ball, and get confused as to where the ball is or is going.

What else can be done to defend this play? I’m not an expert at all in this stuff, but as I said in a comment below, perhaps running the scrap exchange, and/or playing man coverage 11 on 11 football would work. The benefits of playing 11 on 11 man coverage (basically a Cover Zero) would be that each offensive player would be covered and defended regardless of any fakes that the Oregon offense throws at the defense. The defense would become more “proactive” rather than “reactive.”

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by HydroTech on Sep 8, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

IANAEE (I am not an expert either)

I was also thinking about what the defense can do on this play, and I can’t come up with much. I think a scrape exchange would actually be bad here. In that case, the weakside LB would crash on the RB and the MLB would be sprinting to cover the weakside run. This would mean that coverage on Dickson would have to come from the MLB who is coming from even further away and is still going to be faked into going towards the line first. For scrape exchange to work, the WOLB would have to recognize the play, avoid the pass block by the RB and sack the QB.

Man coverage seems to take care of the fake problem, but of course, playing man coverage has all kinds of issues.

Chip Kelly is a clever man.

by jali on Sep 8, 2010 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

One problem was also that Cal is out-numbered in the immediate area of the box. Oregon has 8 total run threats/blockers (5 OL + 1 QB + 1 TE + 1 RB). Cal, with it’s 3-4 defense, only has 7 defenders in the immediate box. Since Gregory was playing zones (Tampa 2, Quarters) to defend the pass, he was also giving up that 8th defender in the box and leaving Cal out-numbered up front.

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by HydroTech on Sep 8, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Slight correction...
[footnote: teams that do want to provide a more north/south angle of attack on run plays despite putting their QB in the shotgun will then utilize the pistol formation.]

Not entirely true. A pistol formation has the QB essentially 3-4 yards back instead of 6-8 yards back.

Oregon actually runs inside zone reads, that are designed for the RB to run through the middle. You can actually see this in pre-snap formation. As a rule of thumb, the alignment of the RB will show if it is an inside or outside run.

Here you can see a standard shotgun formation.

If the play is a zone read, they’ll design it to kick out the run to the outside when they are in this backfield alignment.

Here is the shotgun formation, but you’ll notice that the alignment of the RB is a yards behind the QB, but still offset to the side.

This allows the RB to get some steam hading North/South while in the mesh.

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by JShufelt on Sep 8, 2010 7:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Yes, I am fully aware that Oregon gets a north/south attack out of shotgun. I was sloppy with my language and should have said:


[footnote: most teams that do want to provide a more north/south angle of attack on run plays despite putting their QB in the shotgun will then utilize the pistol formation.]

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by HydroTech on Sep 8, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I TRIED TO HYDROTECH MY POINT THOUGH!

Did I do good, boss?

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by JShufelt on Sep 8, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, your pictures are very good. Now would you please stop hiding in the bushes outside of my apartment, and going through my garbage, and just in general stop stalking me?

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by HydroTech on Sep 8, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

You are asking a LOT out of me.

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by JShufelt on Sep 8, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

That whole breaking into my house and smelling my socks thing is just plain weird. And disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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by HydroTech on Sep 8, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

So you only knew about the socks? Oh thank god!

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by JShufelt on Sep 8, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did you use photoshop? If so, I like your technique of using the “shift” key to get straight lines. I think you have potential to make it to the next level.

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by HydroTech on Sep 8, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yay!

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by JShufelt on Sep 8, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

So now the question regarding quarters is if Bob Gregory started out using htat in the first quarter, or if it was reactive to the score. Was he conceding the TE passes in favor of preventing a big play? Alternately, if he started out with quarters, I’d assume he was hoping to reduce any angles/slants/North-South on the field.

by sec119 on Sep 8, 2010 8:39 AM PDT reply actions  

So now the question regarding quarters is if Bob Gregory started out using that in the first quarter, or if it was reactive to the score?

Gregory did use Quarters occasionally in the first half. However, he used another defense more often. This is something which was not included in any of my previous posts, and will not be included in my final post, but Gregory actually used Tampa 2 approximately 50% of the time during the 1st quarter (I did not chart the entire game, only the first quarter and 3rd quarter).

I don’t know if I’d say that Gregory was conceding passes to the TE, but Gregory seemed to be definitely trying to limit the big play.

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by HydroTech on Sep 8, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

In the opening example, isn’t Young in kind of a no-win situation? By freezing, he allows the TE to get behind him for an open catch. If Young attacked the rush, that opening is even bigger. However, since the Oregon offense was centered on Masoli making a read and then deciding to throw, handoff, or run, if Young plays the TE he leaves a huge gap through which Masoli can run.

What should Young have done to negate the threat? Is it something the secondary needed to jump in to in order to effectively stop?

All in all, it seems that the big failing by the D was in sacrificing the outside/flat areas to protect the middle. And Oregon exploited this – either through recognition early on in the game that this would be Cal’s strategy, or through planning.

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by SoCal Oski on Sep 8, 2010 9:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Yes, Young is in a sort of “no-win” situation. By reading the mesh, he sits, waits, and becomes “reactive.” Off the top of my head, one option would be for Cal to (a) run the scrape exchange; and/or (b) to play true 11 on 11 football where each Cal defender is assigned to an Oregon player and defends that player — basically a Cover Zero.

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by HydroTech on Sep 8, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Playing 11 on 11, or a Cover Zero, would make the Cal defense much more “proactive” rather than “reactive” and might disrupt the Oregon offense more than reading and reacting.

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by HydroTech on Sep 8, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I replied elsewhere about having no idea what might work against this play, but I wonder if the Tampa 2 that you mentioned a couple comments above would have taken care of this play. The CB covers the flat and the WOLB can read the QB like a normal zone read play without having to also cover the short outside zone. Of course, in your earlier post, you showed how they were beating the Tampa 2.

I didn’t keep track of the ordering of these plays, but I wonder if this is Chip Kelly reacting to Bob Gregory’s reaction, or this could just be Kelly alternating between play types that beat the 2 defenses that Gregory was focusing on.

by jali on Sep 8, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Instead of a tampa 2, why not just a regular cover 2. Our corners would be sitting in the zone that dickson is running into. However, as you said, the WR ran a deep sideline comeback, which the safety is going to have a hell of a time covering – so its a pick your poison kind of deal. I will say it again, I would love to get some game tape/analysis on the Oregon v. Ohio State game to figure out what they did so well to shut them down. Obviously as Masoli went, the team went (see Boise State). When he was erratic, they got into trouble and became one dimensional. However when their offense is firing on all cylinders, its pretty damned good.

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by Vandalus on Sep 8, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think a Tampa 2 would fair much differently against these plays than a regular Cover 2. The CBs in both coverages are going to either drop back a bit and take away the comeback or the out, or stay low and take away the flat pass to Dickson and perhaps give up the comeback or out.

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by HydroTech on Sep 8, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m curious as to what Ohio State did against Oregon to shut them down. I don’t have that game, so I don’t know. Perhaps I should consult youtube.

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by HydroTech on Sep 8, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember Oregon struggled against Boise St at the beginning of the year.

Boise was able to run blitz and went man on the outside. Masoli’s throwing was awful, so he couldn’t hurt them.

Against Ohio St., I think someone (Cali49a?) said that Ohio St. played a lot of man, but had the athletes who were disciplined and well-coached enough to stick w/ Oregon’s guys.

Maybe that’s us in a year or two when our uber-recruits come of age?

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by Kodiak on Sep 8, 2010 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get the feeling that Gregory was always pretty reluctant to play man coverage (or Cover 0), and it seems the Oregon offense feasted on that. Their plays are all designed to exploit over-under zone schemes. It looks like he was changing it up to some extent, but not into anything the Ducks didn’t expect.

by sycasey on Sep 8, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

In my next post (the last part), I will talk about why Gregory might have been so reluctant to play man coverage.

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by HydroTech on Sep 8, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do we really think it could have gone worse with pure man D?

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Sep 8, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

They could have taken 1 play on each drive to score instead of having to wait for 3 or 4 plays before they got into the endzone.

by jali on Sep 8, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

However, I agree, if nothing else. They should have tried throwing the kitchen sink at Oregon at that point. Might as well test how things work so they have at least some tape for future games.

by jali on Sep 8, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mean, even if Dickson is superhumanly athletic, it’s clear our guys are being outschemed, not outcompeted athletically. At least give them a chance to make plays. I’d rather take a 1 on 1 matchup than a 1 on 0 matchup, which is basically what happened, as our guys were disciplined and correctly guarded the completely wrong fucking area play after play after play.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Sep 8, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

True, that makes sense. At least give the players the chance to make play.

by jali on Sep 8, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Off the top of my head, the obvious answer would be “no.” But let’s not kid ourselves, the answer could also be “yes” too.

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by HydroTech on Sep 8, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great work, Hydro.

Now, I’m going to go back to crying under my desk.

What I’m curious about is that we did manage to stop their zone read in previous years, right?

Was it simply because we had better LB’s or did we run a different type of defense?

Old Toothwrangler

by Kodiak on Sep 8, 2010 4:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Honestly, I haven’t started really looking at Cal’s defense until last year so I am not fully aware of why Cal was so successful against Oregon in previous years.

I do think that Cal’s talent level in 2008 was a significant factor (Felder, Follett, Williams, etc.).

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by HydroTech on Sep 8, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

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