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[TwistNHook note:  NorCalNick wrote up this reaction to the announced cuts to the athletics department.  He was unable to post it due to technical issues.  Here is what he wanted to say]

These cuts are probably necessary.  Perhaps eliminating four sports and ‘demoting’ another is the only way for Cal Athletics to survive, politically and economically.  But make no mistake - today is a tragic day for the Cal athletic family.  When this entire process started I naïvely believed that at most only a sport or two would get cut – that anticipated revenue from the Pac-12 would be enough, or that donors would emerge, or that less drastic cost cutting measures could prevent this kind of step.  Considering that, according to a letter sent out from Chancellor Birgeneau and Sandy Barbour states that even with anticipated increased revenue an athletic department early deficit of 5 million dollars is anticipated, it’s quite clear I was wrong.

Star-divide

 

There are so many reasons why this is a sad day, but let’s focus on the most important reason why: According to John Crumpacker, 13 coaches will lose their job.  13 people who are a part of the Cal community, who have spent years teaching, training and mentoring Cal student athletes, are unemployed.  I would like to thank Cari DuBois, Jessica Kelley, Brian Loomis, Jennifer Grabowski, Barry Weiner, Aaron Floyd, Theresa Sherry, Nikki Lieb, Meredith Simon, David Esquer, Dan Hubbs, Tony Arnerich, and Brad Sanfilipo, for their time and dedication to our university and its students.  Sadly, this list is probably not exhaustive as it doesn’t include others who may lose their job, like athletic department support staff or those in charge of facility maintenance.

Additionally, this is a major disappointment for the student athletes who stand to lose their sport.  According to the above-mentioned letter the athletic department will honor all of the current scholarships they have awarded to players from cut programs.  Nevertheless, it must be a jarring change for some to suddenly lose perhaps the main reason they decided to attend UC Berkeley.  Many of Cal’s baseball players undoubtedly passed up instant money from the MLB draft for a chance to compete for the Bears.  Those players will undoubtedly have the chance to play elsewhere in the future, but must transfer away from a university that I would hope they have grown to think of as home.  In any case, it’s a tough reality.

I would like to address one argument I’ve already heard and expect to continue hearing – that these cuts were necessitated because of Title IX.  I suppose in a very perverse way, that’s true.  If Cal never began funding women’s athletics in the first place then the need to cut baseball and demote rugby perhaps never would have arisen.  But the fact is that men’s sports and women’s sports all over campus were losing money, and in response men’s sports and women’s sports have been cut.  This is not a gender issue and frankly those trying to make it one reveal their own biases.  These cuts happened because college athletics in the United States has serious structural issues, issues that Ragnarok began exploring in his excellent piece from earlier today.

The bottom line is that it costs money to run a robust athletic department competing at a high level in all sports.  Each university must make its own decision on how valuable that program is.  The majority of the Cal community has made it clear that although we love our sports teams, there is a monetary limit to that support.  I can only hope that the drastic measures taken today will absolutely ensure that the athletic department can operate in the black over the long term, and that perhaps, when future revenue sources are identified, Cal can consider bringing back certain programs after a careful analysis of their long term financial impact.

In what I assume is a coincidence, all four programs being cut are winter/spring sports and all will compete in the 2010/11 academic year.  Each team will have one more shot at glory together, and I can only hope that players, coaches and the Cal community rally around their final seasons of competition.  How great would it be if lacrosse ended with a Mountain Pacific Sports Federation title, or if baseball made a stirring run to Omaha for the College World Series? Announcing the cuts now might hopefully give athletes and coaches an opportunity decide how they want to deal with this news, and hopefully end their final seasons on as happy a note as possible.

Go Bears

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The cuts weren’t “necessitated” by Title IX. Just shaped by it. The cuts are a result of finances. Which student athletes and coaches are losing their sports is being shaped by Title IX, as Chancellor Birgeneau stated today in his letter to the Cal community.

Great post, though. You’ve gotta feel for those kids and staff.

by Monica's Dad on Sep 28, 2010 3:54 PM PDT reply actions  

To quote from the letter you are referring to, here are the other factors:

Factors such as net cost, donor impact, maximizing student opportunity, existence of national/regional varsity competition, contribution to diversity, impact on our ability to comply with Title IX, opportunity for NCAA and Pac 10 success, utilization of support services and history of competitive excellence were among the factors considered.

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by norcalnick on Sep 28, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Barry Weiner

got out just in time – he just stepped down. Guess he saw the writing on the wall.

Sad that Tim McNeill won’t get a chance to be a Cal head coach.

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by BearStage on Sep 28, 2010 4:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Well the cuts are for next year. So technically he’ll get one season.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Sep 28, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder...

…if the fact that the cuts were so severe means Cal is trying to take all the damage up front, rather than cut a sport or two and then have to come back next year and cut another one, and then another one the year after that – all while fighting a perception problem as Memorial gets rebuilt. Not fair, since the SAHPC and stadium updates have been in the works for years (and might be done by now if somebody had just gotten a ball bat and cleaned house), but I guarantee you’d hear all about how football was getting all the money at the expense of everyone else if varsity sports started bleeding out one-a-semester.

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by VandyImport on Sep 28, 2010 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Correct

The cuts are drastic, but they are at an end. Every remaining sport on the Cal campus should feel secure for the immediate (and not-too-distant) future.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Sep 28, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

live from Sacramento

the Legislature does nothing about the budget for the fiscal year that started in June. Nobody should feel secure anywhere about anything involving money that comes from Sacramento in any way at all. Next year might well be as bad, again.

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

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by natteringnabob on Sep 28, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, true. i would hope that the cuts were this drastic because there had been some forward planning regarding our state’s continual inability to fund its public obligations.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Sep 28, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't see how...

I have a relative in the CC system, and my impression from her and friends in local government is that, basically, they don’t have any idea what will happen with their budgets. The January proposal and the May revise are pretty much out the window as the “big 5” meet in secret to determine all of our (Californians’) fates.

"Bochy said there was nothing wrong with Buster Posey. He thought Eli Whiteside had a better chance of scoring on a gapper...Bochy said he might have had Whiteside try to steal second"

"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw

"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)

by natteringnabob on Sep 28, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can confirm that we in the CCCs are flying blind budget-wise, with fingers crossed and scrambling to develop new revenue streams independent of Sacramento—our legal options for which, by the way, are extremely limited—all while trying to serve record-high numbers of students. The following statement is paranoid hyperbole (I think), but there are days when I wonder if it’s just a matter of time before the University of California and/or the CSUs and CCCs become subsidiaries of the University of Phoenix.

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Sep 28, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does anyone know what this guy is talking about?

From my article from SB Nation Bay Area, this comment:

Absolute transparency for University of California Berkeley. UC Berkeley’s budget gap has grown to $150 million, & Chancellor Birgeneau is spending money that isn’t there on $3,000,000 consultants. (A world-class East Coast University is doing the same as UC Berkeley without consultants: $0 cost). His reasons range from the need for impartiality to requiring the consultants "thinking".
Does this mean that the Faculty & management of UC Berkeley – flagship campus of the greatest public system of higher education in the world – lack the thinking, integrity, impartiality, innovation to identify savings? Have they been fudging their research for years?
The consultants will, by the way, get their recommendations from faculty & staff interviews; yet $150 million of inefficiencies could be found internally if the Chancellor & Provost Breslauer did the WORK of their $500,000 jobs (This simple point is lost on Breslauer, Birgeneau).
The victims of this folly are Faculty, Students & taxpayers.
There is only one conclusion as to why inefficiencies are not volunteered by faculty & staff: Chancellor Birgeneau & Provost Breslauer have lost the credibility & trust of Cal Faculty & Staff. Even if the faculty agrees the consultants’ recommendations – disagreeing might put their jobs in jeopardy – the underlying problem of lost credibility & trust remains.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Sep 28, 2010 4:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Bob Gaebler said what?

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by TwistNHook on Sep 28, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever happened to that random crazy guy who posted on the old CGB at the start of the tree-sitter incident? Could it be?

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by CalBandGreat on Sep 28, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

It could be! THE RETURN OF BOB GAEBLER!

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by TwistNHook on Sep 28, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Consultants are Bain & Co

They’ve been leading the campus “Operational Excellence” program to streamline operations and reform campus financial activities. They’ve also done work at other schools, including the University of North Carolina.

As best as I can tell, the Operational Excellence program is completely independent of the efforts of the athletic department to reduce its deficit.

I have no clue what the East Coast University is, or where the “$150 million of inefficiencies” in Berkeley are located.

by slims on Sep 28, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I assume the guy is talking about Cal hiring Bain for Operational Excellence

Operational Excellent isn’t looking at Cal Athletics at all.

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Sep 28, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably the article the other day about UC bringing in outside consultants who found massive inefficiencies. Some folks were upset that the administrators did not find these themselves without having to rely on paid consultants. I’m not so bothered by that point myself. The article was here:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/09/22/BAHP1FI898.DTL

by Monica's Dad on Sep 28, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

paid consultants were fine

most people I spoke with were upset by the methodology, which wasn’t clear at all in some areas, and the fact that they interviewed very few front-line staff in putting together their report. OE isn’t supposed to deal with faculty, yet many of the recommended cuts were specifically having to do with academic issues that if they had talked to staff they would’ve realized)…

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Sep 28, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, but the bonus?

Bain gets a bonus based on how much UC is able to cut from their recommendations. I hope the savings are more than the bonus they have to pay out….

There's no crying in baseball!

by gigglingone on Sep 28, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Typically those deals are for a percentage of the savings. I assume no-one in the Cal administration was silly enough to sign up for something that would cost more than the savings.

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Sep 28, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

you don't hire outside consultants because you don't know where the efficiencies are

You hire them to take the blame as a third party and hopefully keep internal bureaucratic warfare to a minimum.

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Sep 28, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

great minds etc.

How’s Tacoma?

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Sep 28, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s still Tacoma. :-(

The best thing I can say is the room service turkey club sandwich I had for dinner was quite tasty. Oh, and there was a nice sunset.

by Scootie on Sep 28, 2010 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

If only it were Everett, you could go and tour the array of establishments offering bail bonds. As it is, I’d be putting a chair under the door handle and calling it a day.

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Sep 28, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

All they want to know is "what would you say you do here?"

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by CalBandGreat on Sep 28, 2010 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Bobs

Don’t you just love Michael Bolton’s music?

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Sep 28, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’M A PEOPLE PERSON!!

by yorzepol on Sep 29, 2010 4:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

He posted that on my article from this morning as well.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Sep 28, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude’s got a beef w/ Sen. Mark DeSaulnier. Disregard.

by Whohah on Sep 28, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t believe I’m rec’ing something a Stanford guy said, but thems the crazy times we’re living through, I guess.

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by CalBandGreat on Sep 28, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Flagged.

Because I just have to.

by Scootie on Sep 28, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Understood.

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by CalBandGreat on Sep 28, 2010 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cal has been to the CWS more than a “couple of times”. Thanks for the props, coach, but you’re still an arrogant a-hole.

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Sep 28, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you.

I needed that.

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by CalBandGreat on Sep 28, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

sanity has been restored :)

thanks!

by boomtho on Sep 28, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Cal has been to the CWS four times. So yes, more than a couple.

Cal has won “a couple” of national titles. Two, not one.

Yes, I am an Old Blue. Now get off my lawn.

by Ohio Bear on Sep 30, 2010 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just think of the Stanford Axe...

Its origins are in the Cal-Stanford baseball rivalry.

by Monica's Dad on Sep 28, 2010 4:44 PM PDT reply actions  

The more I think about things like this, the sadder I get.

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by CalBandGreat on Sep 28, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some of my fondest memories from college are related to the Cal baseball program — broadcasting games for KALX, including having the privilege to broadcast Cal postseason games at two NCAA regionals.

I understand and grudgingly accept that the financial reasons for this decision. But it makes me sadder with each passing day.

Yes, I am an Old Blue. Now get off my lawn.

by Ohio Bear on Sep 30, 2010 7:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why can’t USC use some of the money it pays to its players to pay for these sports?? Why is the world so unfair?

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by TwistNHook on Sep 28, 2010 4:51 PM PDT reply actions  

On the one hand, we have fewer scholarship players to support. On the other hand, stopping the exodus of upperclassmen was a challenge.

(joke)

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Sep 28, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

(sort of)
(maybe)
(hiding in plain sight)

by Scootie on Sep 28, 2010 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Surely we can’t both be a pack of stupid arrogant rich kids and also capable of pulling off a genius swindle in full view of the rest of the conference, the press, and the NCAA?

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Sep 28, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t that exactly the unique talent of stupid arrogant rich kids?!?

by Scootie on Sep 28, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um, I don’t know.

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Sep 28, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is as random a question you will ever encounter but

how many prominent Bay Area sportswriters graduated from Cal? Did guys like Ostler, Knapp, Inman go to Cal? Just wondering how Cal graduates in the media aren’t making a big deal out of this.

What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?

by greenbean on Sep 28, 2010 4:55 PM PDT reply actions  

guys or women like Knapp

What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?

by greenbean on Sep 28, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Silver did, and he seems pretty upset about it. I think Crumpy did too but I duno if he’s said anything yet.

by boomtho on Sep 28, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

what did Silver have to say about it?

What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?

by greenbean on Sep 28, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Check Mike Silver’s twitter

by boomtho on Sep 28, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bad. Bad. BAD. Bad. Bad. RT @alexmorgan13 sad day for cal athletics… lax baseball rugby and gymnastics…stay strong bears

MarkBrazinski words cannot express the loss RT @laurenloerch sad,sad day…should be cold and raining to fit the haunting mood in Haas Pavilion today

B_HoLLeY As a football player at Cal, I had a immense respect for #CalRugby above all other sports.. still do & always will

by boomtho on Sep 28, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

it's a big deal...

KNBR’s ralph and tom have been talking about it the last two hours.

by oski4u on Sep 28, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

NYTimes writing about it

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by TwistNHook on Sep 28, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Silver went to Cal, as did Crumpy, along with did Glenn Dickey, Bruce Jenkins, and Vittorio Tafur. Probably are more, but I don’t know much about Kawakami/Inman/ etc.

by Scootie on Sep 28, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Jenkins was a FUCLA grad, no?

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by carp on Sep 28, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope. Old Blue. And grumpy as hell.

by Scootie on Sep 29, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get the sense from wandering around the internets that when Cal rugby wins a national championship next year lots of Cal people claiming to be rugby fans are going to say “WAAAAH? I thought we cut the rugby program?!?”

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by norcalnick on Sep 28, 2010 5:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m really frustrated with the initial reporting that happened on this story. EVERYBODY seems to think that Cal rugby is dead and gone.

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by norcalnick on Sep 28, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like another post for you to write Nick! Clear up the misperceptions!

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by Avinash Kunnath on Sep 28, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

no more baseball....what happens when you let a Canadian make athletic decisions ;)

I understand why baseball was cut, as it was not generating revenue…but still one of the oldest programs at Cal, which had been producing MLB talent recently (Xavier Nady, Brett Jackson, Conor Jackson, Brandon Morrow….and Jeff Kent and Jackie Jensen in the past).

As a Cal undergrad, I always liked popping into Evans to catch a game. It was cool to see some MLB up and comers (I saw Jered Weaver pitch for Long Beach State one year).

still a shame

by calbears04 on Sep 28, 2010 9:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Save more, play more! (in-state vs. out-of-state)

If the Cal Athletic dept. tries to save money in the coming years, they should start recruiting more California players. Just think about the saving of at least $23,000 per student per year for in-state students comparing to out-of-state students.

If Cal can just recruits 100 in-state athletics instead of 100 out-of-state athletics, they would save the minimum of $2,300,000 (not counting other expenses to fly to other states/countries to recruit out-of-state/foreign players.)

The people at Cal is trying hard to get donations from local Cal Alumni to support their athletic programs; however, they are passing up many decent California players who can contribute to their teams.

by Terence Chui on Sep 28, 2010 9:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I don’t know if I understand this. The cost of educating a student is the same, regardless of where they come from, right?

by atomsareenough on Sep 28, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed. I don’t think the athletic scholarships cost less because they go to California residents.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Sep 28, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

in state and out of state players

Each sport reimburses the campus for the scholarships they award.
Each scholarship for an out of state player is currently some $23,000 higher than an in state scholarship.
So awarding more in state scholies saves money.

I am sure that any coach in any of Cal sports would choose an instate student ahead of an out of state student if they were as good or better than the out of state student in the skills they have. That is simply not the case though. To be competitive at the level Cal wants you need to go after the very best….wherever they live.

by oskigobears on Sep 29, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

recruiting a student-athlete

So what is more important – recruiting a student or an athlete? I am proud of being a CAL Alumni not because of its sports but academic excellence. I would rather see 27 good CAL teams than 24 better than good teams with the same amount of budget.

by UC-fan on Sep 29, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

out-of-state scholarships

I talked with other UC coaches. They told me that if you have to recruit someone from out-of-state, they have to use two scholarships instead of one. I think this is true for UCs other than CAL and UCLA. However, CAL and UCLA may have to include out-of-state tuition money in their out-of-state offers. So it would be around $47,000 per student instead of $24,000 for in-state players. You don’t see UCD, UCSB, UCSD, UCR, or UCI recruiting too many out-of-state students.

by UC-fan on Sep 29, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Xavier Nady reacts

“It’s sad,” Nady said. "I know the coaches and they took a lot of pride in what they did. It’s too bad it’s not generating any revenue.

“It’s just sad more than anything.”

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by CalBandGreat on Sep 28, 2010 9:55 PM PDT reply actions  

loved watching him, Mike Tonis and Jason Hill.

Nady was a helluva collegiate player.

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--Coach Clark

by carp on Sep 28, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jack Clark reacts

“The current and historic values, standards and ethos of Cal rugby as a high-performance sport are superior to those of intercollegiate athletics as a whole,” he said. “Moreover, I can promise that this same Cal rugby culture will not be victim to administrative structure.”

Love that guy.

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by CalBandGreat on Sep 28, 2010 10:24 PM PDT reply actions  

damn

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Sep 28, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very sad day for Cal

As someone who has attended Cal baseball games, a gymnastic meet (I went to a dual meet with both men and women), and even a women lacrosse game, it is quite disappointing to know that future Cal students (and alumni) won’t get the chance to do so after this year. More importantly, the budget deficit in both athletics and academic might not even be solved by this. I would be equally as sad if (and hopefully not when) Cal would have to cut academic departments.

As for Cal rugby (which I have attended 2 matches), I’m still a bit unclear on its impact (if any). Cal rugby appears to have a big enough donor base to not lose too much by losing the varsity status. If we’re going to blame anything on Title IX, it’s got to be for pushing rugby down to this varsity club status.

I’m hopeful that thing will get better rather than get worse.

by LEastCoastBears on Sep 29, 2010 12:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Yes it is sad but this only the tip of the ice berg melting down on state support and it will not stop with California schools it will hit all.

Plus all schools including private ones depend on donations, but when even the upper class are watching their Ps and Qs less will be there to go around. You all know why college team have gatorade coolers on the sidelines don’t you, the school not only get the product free but they get Millions in dollars from sponsor. Cal baseball is a direct hit to wake up the over spenders, so now even your FB and BB coaches jobs are not safe. Those 2 are lucky that they have fresh deals, because if they were coming up on renewal it wouldn’t happen.

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by so.cal.native1952 on Sep 29, 2010 4:42 AM PDT reply actions  

You know Twist’s mother in law too??!?!?!

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Sep 29, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was there a press conference?

I’ve seen video of Sandy and Robert talking but I didn’t see any transcripts of questions being asked. I would be sure “So Baseball is NEVER EVER EVER coming back?” would have been a question. I’m nervous about people saying Evans Diamond would be replaced with something else. I’m hoping that Cal could pull an Oregon and bring baseball back in a decade or less.

I’m starting to become less delusional and am accepting that donations and protests won’t bring baseball out of death. I don’t think students are going to ironically wear red during Big Game week (to protest budget cuts like last year) in droves to keep baseball and rugby.

At least I can say I’ve been to all 4 sports being cut + rugby.

The Bear Will Not Quit, The Bear Will Not Die
CAL 34 - STAN 28

by Nik Jam on Sep 29, 2010 7:52 AM PDT reply actions  

a nice ditty a friend wrote...

              TO CAL BASEBALL
                  (RIP 9-28-10)
The grass in the outfield has faded to brown.
    The crack of the bat’s just a memory faded.
The seats in the bleachers are all taken down.
    The voices of summer are silenced and jaded.
No “Put me in Coach cause I’m ready to play.”
    No Ernie at short shouting “Time to play two.”
Cause Joltin’ Joe’s left us. Yes, Joe’s gone away,
    And there’s no joy in Bearville for the old Gold and Blue.
To Wolfman, Milano, Jensen and Chapman,
   To Messersmith, Nady and Kent.
Hang up your uniform; turn in your cap man.
   Cause all of your money’s been spent.
There’s crying in baseball. The facts are the facts:
   America’s game is thrown under the bus,
And a storied tradition of “Give ’em the axe”,
   Now ends with the axe being given to us.

by oski4u on Sep 29, 2010 1:34 PM PDT reply actions  

man. sad.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Sep 29, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

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