We've Been Here Before With The Golden Bears
As SoCal Oski termed me on last week's piece, they call me Captain Buzzkill.
At SBN Bay Area, I explore why there's no real reason to get too excited about Cal's 2-0 start and why we still have a long way to go before figuring out what this team is made of.
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Avinash Kunnath
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Another two turnovers and a Jeremy Ross punt return gave the Bears considerably short fields—the Cal offense only needed to drive 57 yards to put up the first 17 points. So take away all those points set up by short fields and turnovers and you wipe out probably 21-28 points off the board. It’s still a very respectable and safe victory, but hardly as impressive.
While I agree that crushing Colorado and UC Davis at home doesn’t tell us that Cal has a great team, I’ve never liked this kind of argument:
“So if you take away all of our turnovers, special teams plays, and don’t count the TDs we get on short drives, then we really almost lost!”
It kind of reminds me of how people would say that if you take away Jahvid Best’s two home-run TD runs, the running game actually sucked, and the score would have been much closer. True, but the fact is that Cal DID have Jahvid Best on the roster, so the long runs are totally expected events. It’s part of how Cal wins games.
The big plays happen, and everything after that is played with the knowledge that the big plays happened. Cal is going to play differently after going up big because they got a lot of turnovers and short fields. If the Bears had come out of halftime up 17-0 instead of 31-0, we probably see a different strategy on both sides of the ball.
Finally, it’s not like all of those turnovers weren’t forced. They happened because Cal was living in Colorado’s backfield. It was a reflection of how well the defense dominated CU’s offense. That might not happen against tougher competition, but for this game, the turnovers were not strictly luck. It was a legit beat-down.
Well I just felt those turnovers were SUPER fluky. Like a wide receiver letting a ball pop through his hands and ending up in Mohamed’s, and Hagan just happening to grab a fumble in full stride and race toward the end zone. It’s pretty much randomness that benefited us.
I agree it was a legit beat down. But it felt more like a 20-30 point victory than 45.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Sep 14, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I disagree.
time to shut up and pump sunshine.
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Sep 14, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mohamed’s interception was partially a result of CU having a rattled QB under pressure, badly overthrowing his man. Yes, it’s a bit lucky that it went right to MM, but it was also the kind of terrible floater that a rattled QB throws in desperation. Not totally unexpected.
Hagan’s TD was pretty lucky, I’ll grant, though at that point we really weren’t trying to score again.
I agree on the Hagan sitch, but disagree on Mohamed. That seemed like a clean pick to me without some extremey unlikely interceeding event occuring before hand.
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Clean pick, sure, but how often do you see a QB (even one under pressure) throw an off handed, basketball style one handed push pass…?
by Missing Barry on Sep 14, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
When you get that pressure, crazzy things happen. When you get that pressure, the ball goes up in the air and then its anybody’s ball.
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Yep, that’s how we got that other pick when we sandwiched the QB. I just think Mohammed’s was at least one part stupider than normal QB decision. ;)
by Missing Barry on Sep 14, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I haven't read your post (I won't)...
I’m tired of all the buzz kills, cold water throwers and general, all-out pessimism on these boards. I’m a third-generation Golden Bear—we’ve had season tickets since 1971, the year I was born—and I am well acquainted with our history. I get it. I’ve been burned each and every time our Bears have fallen short of ability and expectation.
It just seems to me that if all we ever do is fret, fuss and assume the worst (ALWAYS assuming the worst!!), then that’s all we’ll ever get.
I’m over of it.
I’m choose to enjoy the moment. I choose to find happiness in how the Bear’s have played the past two weeks and in the hope they will continue to play at their best in our next game.
I choose to give them the benefit of what I’ve seen on the field THIS SEASON so far. I will not focus on the fact that “we’ve been here before.” Of course we have! We were “here” in 2007, but we were also “here” in 2004, and that season went pretty well. (And, let’s not forget—like most in the media, when referring to $C’s run of conference championships, that we were “here” in 2006, too, and managed to end up with a share of the Pac-10 title.)
If and until they prove otherwise, I am going continue to give them the benefit of hope and expectation, because that’s what this team—this season—has earned. I will not place the shortcomings of previous players and coaches on the current team’s shoulders.
Different season, different team.
Go Bears!
by TrumanHugh on Sep 14, 2010 3:31 PM PDT reply actions 6 recs
I like your style… There really is no down side to being wrong about your team (save for the pride heavy), and pumping sunshine is a hell of a lot more fun than skepticism and glass-half empty outlooks
"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"
I should qualify
This is not a “sky is falling” look on the team. This is a “the first two games haven’t proven much about our team, we shouldn’t extrapolate anything from our performances quite yet.” We’ve still got a ways to go before we learn about the character and spirit of our Bears and how they’ll handle tough situations (how they’ll handle being behind or handle being in a close game against a conference foe).
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by Avinash Kunnath on Sep 14, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I like your enthusiasm – particularly coming from a 3rg Gen Old Blue. I try to feel the same level of hope, but I just can’t.
Instead, I choose to live in the now. LIke a dog or something. No expectations for the season or bowls or anything like that – just enjoying the victories that come, and if it’s a loss, looking forward to the next game.
I guess as long as the team plays hard, it’s all fine. Joe Kapp’s teams took his feisty personality and always seemed to put out a ton of effort with little results, but that’s what made them so endearing.
This team seems to fall into the same category of the 2008 team – no superstars but a lot of heart. And that makes them fun.
Hey, Ucla -
1. Get your own colors
2. Get your own fight song
3. GET A REAL BEAR!
So now not only are CGB’ers sunshine pumpers, but they’re buzz kills, cold water throwers and general, all out pessimists! Man, that’s impressive. ;)
by Missing Barry on Sep 14, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Your jib. I like the cut of it.
Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.
by CalBandGreat on Sep 14, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you think
that since I am sure that the Cal players feel like they really should be 0-2 at this point, that they will go into the Nevada game with a chip on their shoulder?
Pretty much. They’re going to let that Wolfpack know how much Bears like to gamble.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Sep 14, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d just like to chime in to say I’m impressed with how much content you guys have been putting out the last few weeks.
Well, its only weekk 2 lets se if we can keep this pace up withotu burning out.
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Just like the Bears!!!
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by Avinash Kunnath on Sep 14, 2010 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, we’ve been here before.
I remember how much content CGB was putting out for the first few weeks of 2007, then the wheels came off and all Twist could post was the same photo of an angry hobo.
Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.
by CalBandGreat on Sep 14, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I just spent 30 minutes trying to find your first use of the angry hobo on the old blogsome site.
Ah, those were the days. CGB was so young and uncorrupted by daily visits and profits.
Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.
by CalBandGreat on Sep 14, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
from your last post there
For starters, we’re most excited about the FanPosts feature, where anyone can add content about whatever (hopefully somehow related to Cal).
If only you knew the inanity monster you’d unleash on the world with the creation of the DBD.
Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.
by CalBandGreat on Sep 14, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
You are a buzzkill, Avi...
…but we still love you for it. I LOVE talking and reading about Cal football, and don’t just want sunshine pumping (though I like to read a bit of that, too). I like to hear the whole range of opinions and that helps me settle into my own little neurotic corner of how-to-be-a-cal-fan.
One thing I love is how many of us have a strong opinion on how one should hope/root for/talk about the Bears before/during/after the season.
One think I admit is I do like it when we are underrated by the media, and then coming up with a big win is even more enjoyable than if we are overrated and get a win – it’s hard for it to even be a ‘big’ win.
I’d much rather we stay underrated by the media (assuming, proudly, that we are better than our received-no-votes status at the beginning of the season) for as long as possible, and team’s like Stanfurd are overrated as much as possible – right up until we play them, and Oski willing, beat them.
You know what I’m sayin’?
This is something we had a good discussion about a while back – I want us to really earn the rankings and kudos – not have it assumed. I want to be great, and have everyone know it, and really know it because of W’s against really great opponents, not because of any media hype or spin or if-onlys.
The sad state of sports reporting (outside of some of the great work Avinash does, and a few like him) gives us ridiculous 1-dimensional, 20 second sound bites about everything.
Did you hear the way the fUCLA vs. Stanfurd commentators were absolutely slobbering over Andrew Luck in that game? And look – he really didn’t have an impressive game. At all. They called him ‘the bescollege QB in the nation’ several times – why? Because of something he’s done? No, because he was rated, by some boneheads in the preseason, as a top draft pick. So rather than watch some film of him and learn something, that’s all they can say.
And when he starts the day with 3 straight incompletions, and ends with less than 50% percentage on the night, they look like total idiots. Which they are.
I’ll judge Luck by what he does on the field. But don’t get me wrong – I’m not jealous Stanfurd is being so highly touted with so little justification – it’ll make it super-painful to them when they take their first loss. And their second loss, etc. It’s not a favor to them, and I don’t want unearned praise for the praise.
Here’s to earning praise. GO BEARS!
Stand the whole game, stay to the end, and start yelling while they're still in the huddle. GO BEARS
by JerrottWillard45 on Sep 15, 2010 1:46 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd And
When you really think about it, early rankings are based on (mostly) conjecture and speculation. It’s more about the egos of the people ranking the teams than about the teams themselves. So when a team makes them look bad, like Cal has done several times, they get punished. But Cal did nothing other than lose a game the media pundit thought they would win.
I stopped paying attention to most of the national coverage of college football. They really don’t know what the hell they are talking about most of the time. Like you said, JW45, they pick a storyline they want to believe and stick with it despite what’s happening on the field of play.


























































