Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Shaq As Orlando Magic General Manager? Don't Bet On It

As SoCal Oski termed me on last week's piece, they call me Captain Buzzkill.

At SBN Bay Area, I explore why there's no real reason to get too excited about Cal's 2-0 start and why we still have a long way to go before figuring out what this team is made of.

over 1 year ago Avinash6_tiny Avinash Kunnath 32 comments 0 recs  | 

Story-email Email Printer Print

More from California Golden Blogs

Cal Football Spring Game Preview

Apr 2012 by Kodiak - 49 comments

Comments

Display:

Another two turnovers and a Jeremy Ross punt return gave the Bears considerably short fields—the Cal offense only needed to drive 57 yards to put up the first 17 points. So take away all those points set up by short fields and turnovers and you wipe out probably 21-28 points off the board. It’s still a very respectable and safe victory, but hardly as impressive.

While I agree that crushing Colorado and UC Davis at home doesn’t tell us that Cal has a great team, I’ve never liked this kind of argument:

“So if you take away all of our turnovers, special teams plays, and don’t count the TDs we get on short drives, then we really almost lost!”

It kind of reminds me of how people would say that if you take away Jahvid Best’s two home-run TD runs, the running game actually sucked, and the score would have been much closer. True, but the fact is that Cal DID have Jahvid Best on the roster, so the long runs are totally expected events. It’s part of how Cal wins games.

The big plays happen, and everything after that is played with the knowledge that the big plays happened. Cal is going to play differently after going up big because they got a lot of turnovers and short fields. If the Bears had come out of halftime up 17-0 instead of 31-0, we probably see a different strategy on both sides of the ball.

Finally, it’s not like all of those turnovers weren’t forced. They happened because Cal was living in Colorado’s backfield. It was a reflection of how well the defense dominated CU’s offense. That might not happen against tougher competition, but for this game, the turnovers were not strictly luck. It was a legit beat-down.

by sycasey on Sep 14, 2010 2:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Well I just felt those turnovers were SUPER fluky. Like a wide receiver letting a ball pop through his hands and ending up in Mohamed’s, and Hagan just happening to grab a fumble in full stride and race toward the end zone. It’s pretty much randomness that benefited us.

I agree it was a legit beat down. But it felt more like a 20-30 point victory than 45.

Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com

by Avinash Kunnath on Sep 14, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I disagree.

time to shut up and pump sunshine.

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Sep 14, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Mohamed’s interception was partially a result of CU having a rattled QB under pressure, badly overthrowing his man. Yes, it’s a bit lucky that it went right to MM, but it was also the kind of terrible floater that a rattled QB throws in desperation. Not totally unexpected.

Hagan’s TD was pretty lucky, I’ll grant, though at that point we really weren’t trying to score again.

by sycasey on Sep 14, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree on the Hagan sitch, but disagree on Mohamed. That seemed like a clean pick to me without some extremey unlikely interceeding event occuring before hand.

CGB's Jimmy Carter

www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com

by TwistNHook on Sep 14, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clean pick, sure, but how often do you see a QB (even one under pressure) throw an off handed, basketball style one handed push pass…?

by Missing Barry on Sep 14, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

When you get that pressure, crazzy things happen. When you get that pressure, the ball goes up in the air and then its anybody’s ball.

CGB's Jimmy Carter

www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com

by TwistNHook on Sep 14, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, that’s how we got that other pick when we sandwiched the QB. I just think Mohammed’s was at least one part stupider than normal QB decision. ;)

by Missing Barry on Sep 14, 2010 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

How often do you see a QB try to run for a TD with time running out and a #1 ranking on the line?

Sigh.

by KikiRevenge on Sep 15, 2010 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like your style… There really is no down side to being wrong about your team (save for the pride heavy), and pumping sunshine is a hell of a lot more fun than skepticism and glass-half empty outlooks

"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"

by CruzinBears on Sep 14, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

of course, I am not saying those enjoying the moment will be wrong about the team, I have full faith in their continued success throughout the Fall, Go Bears!

"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"

by CruzinBears on Sep 14, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should qualify

This is not a “sky is falling” look on the team. This is a “the first two games haven’t proven much about our team, we shouldn’t extrapolate anything from our performances quite yet.” We’ve still got a ways to go before we learn about the character and spirit of our Bears and how they’ll handle tough situations (how they’ll handle being behind or handle being in a close game against a conference foe).

Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com

by Avinash Kunnath on Sep 14, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like your enthusiasm – particularly coming from a 3rg Gen Old Blue. I try to feel the same level of hope, but I just can’t.

Instead, I choose to live in the now. LIke a dog or something. No expectations for the season or bowls or anything like that – just enjoying the victories that come, and if it’s a loss, looking forward to the next game.

I guess as long as the team plays hard, it’s all fine. Joe Kapp’s teams took his feisty personality and always seemed to put out a ton of effort with little results, but that’s what made them so endearing.

This team seems to fall into the same category of the 2008 team – no superstars but a lot of heart. And that makes them fun.

Hey, Ucla -
1. Get your own colors
2. Get your own fight song
3. GET A REAL BEAR!

by SoCal Oski on Sep 14, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

So now not only are CGB’ers sunshine pumpers, but they’re buzz kills, cold water throwers and general, all out pessimists! Man, that’s impressive. ;)

by Missing Barry on Sep 14, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yoga and pilates. It’s amazing how hard you have to work to be flexible enough to pump sunshine while also throwing cold water and killing buzzes.

Old Toothwrangler

by Kodiak on Sep 14, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your jib. I like the cut of it.

Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.

by CalBandGreat on Sep 14, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you think

that since I am sure that the Cal players feel like they really should be 0-2 at this point, that they will go into the Nevada game with a chip on their shoulder?

by Logy on Sep 14, 2010 5:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Pretty much. They’re going to let that Wolfpack know how much Bears like to gamble.

Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com

by Avinash Kunnath on Sep 14, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d just like to chime in to say I’m impressed with how much content you guys have been putting out the last few weeks.

by Missing Barry on Sep 14, 2010 7:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, its only weekk 2 lets se if we can keep this pace up withotu burning out.

CGB's Jimmy Carter

www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com

by TwistNHook on Sep 14, 2010 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just like the Bears!!!

Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com

by Avinash Kunnath on Sep 14, 2010 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

All those people who say “TwistNHook #2 blogger” don’t realize that he’s been blogging against two weak teams! Let’s see how he handles Addicted To Quack or Conquest Chronicles first.

CGB's Jimmy Carter

www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com

by TwistNHook on Sep 14, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, we’ve been here before.

I remember how much content CGB was putting out for the first few weeks of 2007, then the wheels came off and all Twist could post was the same photo of an angry hobo.

Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.

by CalBandGreat on Sep 14, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good job Lt. Buzzkill. I was all excited about the remainder of the season, too…

Old Toothwrangler

by Kodiak on Sep 14, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That angry hobo got me through some tough times.

CGB's Jimmy Carter

www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com

by TwistNHook on Sep 14, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just spent 30 minutes trying to find your first use of the angry hobo on the old blogsome site.

Ah, those were the days. CGB was so young and uncorrupted by daily visits and profits.

Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.

by CalBandGreat on Sep 14, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

from your last post there
For starters, we’re most excited about the FanPosts feature, where anyone can add content about whatever (hopefully somehow related to Cal).

If only you knew the inanity monster you’d unleash on the world with the creation of the DBD.

Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.

by CalBandGreat on Sep 14, 2010 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to do this for the love of the inanity. Now, I do it for the big money contract. And that is sad, isn’t it?

CGB's Jimmy Carter

www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com

by TwistNHook on Sep 14, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec'd And

When you really think about it, early rankings are based on (mostly) conjecture and speculation. It’s more about the egos of the people ranking the teams than about the teams themselves. So when a team makes them look bad, like Cal has done several times, they get punished. But Cal did nothing other than lose a game the media pundit thought they would win.

I stopped paying attention to most of the national coverage of college football. They really don’t know what the hell they are talking about most of the time. Like you said, JW45, they pick a storyline they want to believe and stick with it despite what’s happening on the field of play.

by KikiRevenge on Sep 15, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

The California Sports Website that's .....different from all the rest.

GoldenBlogs' FAQ and Community Guidelines

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Humpty_dance_1_small
100 Days and counting... Sneak peek inside Memorial
Cal_2_small
Cal Softball Playoff Video: First Cal vs. Arkansas Game - Reid Steals Home
Cal_2_small
Softball Playoff Video: Cal vs. Iona
Ajoceywcalhatpic_small
DBD 5/18/12:  Riddles!
Cal_2_small
Cal Men's Crew Earns Second Place at the Pac-12 Championships

Recent FanPosts

Cstcst3644_small
DBD 5.24.12 Philip Philips is a person who exists?
Ab_small
DBD 5.23.12 Meeting yourself
Small
Rugby 7s in Philly!!!
Small
Cal vs Ohio State-getting tickets
Ab_small
DBD 5.22.12 I've made a huge mistake
Noneedtobeupset1_small
DBD 5.21.12 Jimmy Rustling DBD
Logo1_small
Cal rugby?

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

FanShots

Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.

Recommended FanShots

Coach Tedford is mic'd up for spring practice. Listen to him talk, while people practice! It is...
Steve Bartkowski elected to College Football Hall of Fame
Shareef Abdur-Rahim earns his Cal degree 16 years later!  Better late than never, right?  We're all proud of him.  Go Bears!  (H/T John Montgomery's Twitter)

Click here for more on this story from The Sacramento Bee.
Cal Women's Crew Captures Pac-12 Championship

Recent FanShots

DANBURY MINT CAL MEMORIAL STADIUM REPLICA- Just wondering if anyone had...
Alex Morgan links
Natalie Coughlin feature on ESPN
warren long should be offered he has all cal needs really good kid is the word around town.
I recorded the entire last out as Cal clinches the first ever PAC12 Softball Title! It was also a...
WSJ Writer Urges Pac-12 & Big Ten to Secede From BCS Playoffs
KTVU profiles the USA Olympic men's eight rowing hopefuls, and it includes interviews with former...
Former Cal football players make career in music
Cal has one of college football's best passing and catching duos
Best unimpressed by Floyd Mayweather, boxing in general

+ New FanShot All FanShots >

More great SB Nation Blogs

Pac-12 On SBN

Pacific Takes (Pac-12)

Pacifictakes-165x74_medium

NORTH

AddictedToQuack: (Oregon)

UW Dawg Pound: (Washington)

CougCenter: (Washington State)

BuildingTheDam: (Oregon State)

Rule Of Tree: (Stanford)

CaliforniaGoldenBlogs: (Cal)

 

SOUTH

BruinsNation: (UCLA)

ConquestChronicles: (USC)

HouseOfSparky: (ASU)

Arizona Desert Swarm: (Arizona)

TheRalphieReport: (Colorado)

Block U: (Utah)


Marshawnthusiasts!

Bear_small ragnarok

Script_cal_small HydroTech

Cal_football_2005_09_16_roll_07_012_small CBKWit

Cstcst3644_small TwistNHook

1262541127_small yellow fever

Avinash6_small Avinash Kunnath

Jahvidtician

Bear__small norcalnick

Monty_in_cal_gear_small Ohio Bear

Giorgiorope_small Berkelium97

Ajoceywcalhatpic_small Kodiak

Mbc_small ManBearCal

Members Of The Follettariat

Oski_mini_small LEastCoastBears

Sofele20squarecal_stanford2011_small solarise

47081_1264898881265_1793562355_517598_1551191_s_small FrankCohen

Rugby_split_small RugbyVet

Sam_i_am_small unclesam22

The Hit Squad

1129748640_small LeonPowe

Atom_small atomsareenough

Basketball_desktop_small CALumbus Bear

Humpty_dance_1_small Cugel