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CGB Preseason Top 25 Blogpoll

Your long college football drought is almost over!  The season kicks off in less than two weeks, meaning you can finally stop surfing ESPN Classic for condensed replays of six year-old bowl games to get your pigskin fix on.  And, of course, what would college football be without a ranking of the Top 25 teams in the land, compiled by a bevy of internet fanatics who have most likely spent all summer following 1) their team, 2) their team's conference, and 3) the latest installment of the Great Conference Shuffle.  In other words, people perfectly suited to have opinions on whether Pittsburgh should be ranked above Miami but below Iowa.

Polls are fun and all, don't get me wrong, but trying to pick the Top 25 teams in August with any authority or degree of accuracy is a daunting task.  You'd be almost as well off just tossing darts at a board (I don't know about you, but my dartboard's got a picture of Mack Brown on it, which is great fun, but terrible for deciding which is the 14th-best college football team in America).  So, faced with the prospect of certain failure for my efforts, I declined to do what my compatriots (Yellow Fever, Norcalnick and Berkelium97) did (pick some teams in some order) and instead just submitted the exact same ballot I did at the end of last season.  A cop-out, you may say, but it yielded results surprisingly consistent with the other CGB voters.

In fact, I think the few differences are worth highlighting:

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Ranked much higher on my ballot:
Cincinnati
Arizona
Stanford

Ranked much lower (or omitted entirely):
Oklahoma
Pittsburgh
Wisconsin
Arkansas
Penn State

The most glaring difference between these two lists is that the second one consists of traditional powers (and Pittsburgh), while the first list does not.  Simply put, if you take last year's polls, assume the traditional powers will stay good or return to glory while the upstarts begin to fade away, you'll pretty much have this year's preseason ballot.  This isn't necessarily a terrible assumption to make (it actually works pretty well), but only if voters are then willing to tear up their preseason ballots and forget about them entirely once they witness actual games being played.  For my own part, I come up with an entirely new ballot every week; I fear, however, that not nearly enough other voters do the same.

And now, here's CGB's official preseason BlogPoll ballot.

 

One final note: those who saw yesterday's ballot post may notice that this one now omits Stanfurd.  First, let me say that their initial inclusion was entirely due to my laziness; no other CGB voter cast a vote for them, and my vote, which I simply copied from my end-of-2009 ballot, was the entire reason for their inclusion.  Do I actually think they're a Top 25 team?  No, not really, which is why I caved to public pressure and replaced them with Utah.  However, I'm highly skeptical of every team at this point in the season, and the 'Furd's inclusion didn't seem any more egregious (at least from a non-partisan standpoint) than most of the other teams at the bottom of the ballot.  Toby Gerhart may be gone, but a running back doesn't produce on his own, and Harbaugh brings back most of a very good offensive line.

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I find your continued display of faith in the Furd disturbing, rags.

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by yellow fever on Aug 23, 2010 6:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Simply put, if you take last year’s polls, assume the traditional powers will stay good or return to glory while the upstarts begin to fade away, you’ll pretty much have this year’s preseason ballot.

I’ve always suspected that preseason voting more or less works like that. How a team finished last year + voters perception of how the program has been the last ~2-3 years is more or less all the thought given to it. Which like you said is fine, unless…..

only if voters are then willing to tear up their preseason ballots and forget about them entirely once they witness actual games being played. For my own part, I come up with an entirely new ballot every week; I fear, however, that not nearly enough other voters do the same.

They just go through every week altering teams up and down based on where they were the last week, which is exactly what most voters do. Not a good system. :\

by Missing Barry on Aug 23, 2010 6:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Enh, I’m willing to give Boise the benefit of the doubt this year, if for no other reason than they bring back all but one of their starters on a team that won the Fiesta Bowl (and did a nice job taking out the Pac-10 champs the first week of the season) and they haven’t really missed a beat in terms of winning consistently over a long period of time. They’ve got something interesting going on up there, and I can see the hype for them for those two reasons. I know, they play in the WAC, and some of those teams are scary bad. But still, they pretty much beat who they’re supposed to beat, and they make an effort to schedule a hard team every year, so…

But, all that said, the game against Virginia Tech the first week out ought to tell us just how good this Boise team is.

Member of the Lost Tribe of Mooch

by katster on Aug 23, 2010 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

no

Q: how many of these teams does boise (is not actually a) state have to ‘get ready for’:

Virginia Tech
Wyoming
Oregon State
New Mexico State
Toledo
San Jose State
Louisiana Tech
Hawai’i
Idaho
Fresno State
Nevada
Utah State

A: 2
both ooc
then a powder puff reg slate
fresno (also not a) state at home
utah state at home

 … if they win just 1 of those 2 games, they will be in the top 10 at the end of the season and likely be on their way to a BCS bowl … it’s akin to cfb affirmactive action

i hate the presesason polls too … in this case a high early ranking works out in not a state’s favor … whereas they will be default be climbing the ranks of the polls, the big boys of the sec, pac, big, and bigger will be knocking one another out of contention

preseason polls iz dum

by the beer on Aug 23, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, yeah, I get where you’re coming from, but it’s not entirely fair that Boise gets penalized for the conference they happen to be in, either. And to be absolutely honest, the VATech game is going to decide the season for Boise. Unless Tech turns out to be really awesome this year, then the loss will get looked at as “Boise can’t play with the big boys.”

I’m saying, this year, I’m not upset about Boise being near the top, despite their crappy conference.

But yeah, you’re right, preseason polls are dumb.

Member of the Lost Tribe of Mooch

by katster on Aug 23, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dear Oregon St: Please beat Boise St and TCU so when we lose to you it won’t hurt so bad.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Aug 23, 2010 9:02 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Dear Oregon St: Please beat Boise St and TCU so when we lose to you it won’t hurt so bad finally redeem ourselves against you annoying bastards it will be even sweeter.

by atomsareenough on Aug 23, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pre-Season Polls

There really isn’t much to argue about the rankings at this point, since at the very bottom it’s all a bunch of guesswork and assumption. At least, somewhat.

Sure, it’s safe to assume that based on talent and past performance Alabama, Texas, and Oregon will likely finish with a better record than Cal. But as to which of these are better right now – well, like you said, rags, darts are as good as anything.

And everyone knows the downside of these early polls, because it’s been mentioned over and over: they set an artificial hierarchy which determines the end result. Barring a complete collapse, current #! Alabama has a much better chance finishing in the top 3 than, say, Oregon State, even if OSU has a better record by the end of the year.

Polls, by their nature, are bullshit. Which, in turn, makes the BCS rankings bullshit. Which is why, barring a national playoff, we should just go back to the old system of regional bowl games without the facade of this stupid BCS title game.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to yell at some kids to keep the noise down.

Careful, man. There's a beverage here!

by SoCal Oski on Aug 23, 2010 11:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Can I please have my frisbee back?!?!?!?! It’s been in your backyard for going on two years now… We were just playing in the street :(

"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"

by CruzinBears on Aug 23, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pre-Season Polls

Represent everything that is horrible and evil about college football. Every time I see one I want to puke. The first poll should come out after week 3, when most team have finished their OOC games.

Another reminder why the NFL is 8 billion times better than college football.

by Another Failed Tedford QB on Aug 23, 2010 12:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Meh, I stil prefer college football even though the poll system sucks (because voters are idiots).

by Missing Barry on Aug 23, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me too. I just find college football a lot more exciting and interesting.

by atomsareenough on Aug 23, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it’s a way more entertaining brand of football just from a football standpoint.

by Missing Barry on Aug 23, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love the atmosphere better!

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by TwistNHook on Aug 23, 2010 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t decide which I like better, the ambiance, or the decor.

by Missing Barry on Aug 24, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

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