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Projecting Marvin Jones: Can He Break Out Like Geoff McArthur?

Geoff McArthur was exceptionally great at one thing when he was at Cal: Catching the ball. He didn't possess amazing athleticism the way Desean Jackson did, but he was able to snare grabs at an astounding rate in spite of the fact that most defenses knew he was the target. Some teams would throw double teams, even triple teams against him in 2003 and 2004--he still managed over 140 catches from Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, he was kind of amazing

You can begin to see McArthuresque characteristics building up in Marvin Jones too. He possesses an ability to find the ball when he knows he's going to get and hit and eat turf.  Although Kevin Riley isn't quite the quarterback Rodgers is, Jones has shown an impressive ability to adjust to some of Riley's more errant throws. He can reach back, jump up, extend the body and absorb contact while maintaining possession (look at his highlight reel last season and see if you agree).

Considering the similar skill set of the two receivers, we decided to project Jones's similar numbers based on how well McArthur performed his junior year and Desean from his first to second season. Stat-master Berkelium97 has the down-low.

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Here's what I have for Marvin.  There are two ways this year could go for him: he could blow up like McArthur did in 2003, or he could see mild improvement like most other receivers.  Here are the numbers for both:

McArthur-esque year (regular season/regular season + bowl game):

78/85 receptions, 11/12 TDs, 1182/1288 if his yards per reception is around 15, 1415/1543 if his yards per reception is around 18.  Both DeSean and Geoff boosted their yards/reception by about +3, but if that's the case with Jones, he'll catapult from about 15 yards per reception to an incredible 18 yards per reception.  So I'm giving the yardage totals for both.  I'd be shocked if his yards per reception went as high as 18.  15 (which was his yards/reception in 2009) is much more reasonable

If he has a year during which he develops like other first-team Tedford receivers, his stats will look more like:

54/59 receptions, 8 TDs, 810/893 yards if his per reception is around 15, 980/1071 if his yards per reception is closer to 18.

Some factors that might need to be examined into this analysis:

  • McArthur upgraded from Kyle Boller to Aaron Rodgers. Jones is upgrading from Kevin Riley to Kevin Riley. It depends on how highly you think that Riley can improve from junior to senior season.
  • McArthur didn't have a very strong supporting cast behind him (Burl Toler was a solid #2, but that was about it). Whereas a lot of guys will probably be competing for playing time with Jones, including Alex Lagemann, Jeremy Ross and Michael Calvin, as well as Keenan Allen, Coleman Edmond, Tevin Carter, Kaelin Clay, etc. There's a possibility that a strong #2 is established by the end of camp, but there's no guarantee.
  • It's very hard to see anyone completing that many passes on a team that tends to run the ball first. Cal's starting running back in 2003 got injured a couple of times and a greater reliance was needed from the passing game.
  • I expect Jones to be nearer the final projection, although if no one else steps up on his other side, there is a chance he gets going for a monster year.

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After being thoroughly impressed by the young receivers during camp, I’m even more convinced that Jones will not have a MacArthur-esque breakout year. It’s not that he doesn’t have the talent, though. Instead, the number of talented receivers, tight ends, and pass-catching RBs will ensure that passes will be distributed to a variety of targets. Jones will probably be in the 800s this season.

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by Berkelium97 on Aug 18, 2010 5:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I’ll take that

"It's on the ROOF, oh yeah, one hundred PROOF, oh yeah....."

by TKE Prytanis 79 on Aug 18, 2010 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

me too

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by Cugel on Aug 18, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

rodgers was so much better than riley that i think it’s really difficult to tell how many receptions Marvin will get compared to mcarthur. I think it depends more on Riley’s play than anything else.

by ucsdgoldenbear on Aug 18, 2010 9:22 PM PDT reply actions  

I really hope he has a break out season but I also hope one other

WR steps up to take some of the pressure off of both Jones and Riley. I am not sure Allen or one of the other young WR will take the #2 spot outright this season (especially early on) but I could see a trio of WR’s (as well as Anthony Miller) all making plays and catches. As Berkelium noted, I see the passes more distributed to other pass catches with Jones leading all WR’s in receptions, yards, and TDs.

On a personal note, I took Jones as one of my WR’s in the fantasy CFB league I play in. Most people were making fun of me for taking a Cal WR but I hope Jones can prove them wrong and me prophetic!

On another side note, I also took Anthony Miller and Shane Vereen in my league. What can I say, I am a homer. Go Bears!

by SDBear on Aug 18, 2010 9:52 PM PDT reply actions  

The more I read, the more excited I’m getting. I think the Koolaid is turning into Cabernet and I won’t be fit to drive come September!

by cal85 on Aug 18, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Allen is slated to start against Davis unless something changes. Shhh! Don’t tell the older WRs.

by Cali49a on Aug 18, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good I like that

Allen, along with all the other young WR are obviously our future at WR so might as well get their feet wet early, especially against a team like UC Davis.

by SDBear on Aug 18, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES!

Cal is basically sacrificing knowledge of the playbook for faster WRs with more reliable hands. The curve can be kind of steep to learn the playbook but if some of the younger guys are only inserted in for certain plays, it shouldn’t be that bad. Allen is on a different level from what I’m hearing. He’s a sponge and is soaking up the playbook pretty well.

by Cali49a on Aug 18, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you implying that Keenen Allen’s body consists of jelly-like mesohyl sandwiched between two thin layers of cells. Because I’m not sure I would want such a Porifera starting at WR. How good could he be without a nervous, digestive, or even circulatory system????

Nonetheless, we should try him at kicker.

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by TwistNHook on Aug 18, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

This would be something you’d do. You’d also make Beau Sweeney a safety and Rope Guy the running back.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Aug 18, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hell, I’d even make you a Marshawnthusiast!

BOOM! MARSHAWNTHUSIAST’D!

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by TwistNHook on Aug 18, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is EXACTLY what I am saying.

by Cali49a on Aug 18, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are like an open book.

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by TwistNHook on Aug 19, 2010 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it’s interesting how after the Jordan/Hawk/Desean trio, Tedford decided he wanted bigger receivers to run his offense, but has since realized giving up speed wasn’t worth it…..

It does seem like Allen is the best of both worlds, though – great athlete who also has good size!

by Missing Barry on Aug 22, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just listened to Loggy's new CD "New Kid"

I gotta say, not too bad.

On that note, I would love to see us go 3 WRs, with Jones the #1, Allen the #2, Loggy in the slot and Miller at TE. With Vereen in the backfield, that’s plenty of weapons for KR.

I also want to see Sofele run some plays out of the slot. Just like my Chiefs are planning on using Dexter McCluster (who is extremely similar to Isi IMO).

by Another Failed Tedford QB on Aug 19, 2010 9:06 AM PDT reply actions  

I like your line-up… Lets go beat us up some Aggies

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by CruzinBears on Aug 19, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s hard not to smile at the phrase “Loggy in the slot”.

SACRAMENTO – Some called it poorly conceived.

by atomsareenough on Aug 19, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

McArthur didn’t have a very strong supporting cast behind him (Burl Toler was a solid #2, but that was about it)

At various points he was playing with LaShaun Ward (who was talented and at least a threat the defense had to worry about just in case he did actually catch a ball when he got himself open), Makonnen, who I think was a pretty good player, Chase Lyman who was as good as any non-Desean receiver we’ve had when he was healthy, Robert Jordan, and Burl. That’s not a bad group of talent, at least when they were healthy, which admittedly wasn’t all that often.

by Missing Barry on Aug 22, 2010 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m referring to the 2003 season. Makonnen was much better in 2004. Lyman was always injured. Jordan played as a true frosh. Toler was alright and the closest to the #2 option as you can get. LaShaun Ward had his difficulties.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Aug 23, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

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