DBD 7.23.10 Funny People
Bill Simmons's latest mailbag:
Q: Who is the funniest man alive right now? Personally I like Zach Galifianakis -- he's the Kevin Durant of this category. We know he will be great, but he isn't quite there yet. I'm still taking him.
-- Joey Miller, DallasSG: I spent way too much time thinking about this. The short answer: Yes. 2009 belonged to Galifianakis over any other funny person. Not sure about 2010 yet.
The long answer: With the NBA, I can just click on a list of MVPs for the past 50 years that gives me a general idea of "Who was the best player alive for that year?" We don't have this for the "Funniest Person Alive" title, and really, we should. You have to nail at least one of these questions to qualify for that given year: Were you in the hottest comedy of the year, or even better, in the middle of a run of hot comedies? Were you carrying SNL? Did you have an iconic stand-up special, cable TV show, late-night show or comedy series? Did you routinely crush any late-night appearance or SNL hosting gig? Did you have a huge approval rating with little to no backlash? Do we associate that year with you to some degree? I need resonance beyond just cult affection, which unfortunately rules out the great Bill Hicks (who has a strong case for 1990).
For instance: 1982, 1983, 1984 ... Eddie Murphy. Period. That was the Eddie Era. SNL, "Delirious," "48 Hrs.," "Trading Places," "Beverly Hills Cop." Done. There was no doubt whatsoever. And sure, there may have been some doubt in other years. But here's what I am thinking for guys in my lifetime (starting in 1975, when I could start remembering stuff, along with input from 10-12 friends).
1975: Richard Pryor
Best stand-up comedian alive (and the most respected). Also crushed his only SNL hosting gig ever with its first legitimately great show and water cooler sketch.1976: Chevy Chase
SNL's first breakout star as it became a national phenomenon. He also made the worst move in Funniest Guy history by leaving the show as he was wrapping up his Funniest Guy season. Even "The Decision" was a better idea.1977-78: John Belushi
Replaced Chase as SNL's meal ticket in '77, then had the single best year in Funny Guy History a year later: starred on SNL (during its biggest year ever, when audiences climbed to over 30 million per episode); starred in "Animal House" (the No. 1 comedy of 1978 and a first-ballot Hall of Famer); had the No. 1 album (the Blues Brothers' first album). No. 1 in TV, movies and music at the same time? I'm almost positive this will never happen again. And also, if you put all the funniest people ever at the funniest points of their lives in one room, I think he'd be the alpha dog thanks to force of personality. So there's that.1979: Robin Williams, Steve Martin (tie)
"Mork and Mindy" plus a big stand-up career for Williams; "The Jerk" plus a best-selling comedy album plus "official best SNL host ever" status for Martin.1980: Rodney Dangerfield
His breakout year with "Caddyshack," killer stand-up, killer Carson appearances, a Grammy-winning comedy album, and even a Rolling Stone cover. Our oldest winner.1981: Bill Murray
Carried "Stripes" one year after "Caddyshack." Tough year for comedy since cocaine was ruining nearly everybody at this point.1982-84: Eddie Murphy
The best three-year run anyone's had. Like Bird's three straight MVPs. And by the way, "Beverly Hills Cop" is still the No. 1 comedy of all time if you use adjusted gross numbers.(Random note: Sam Kinison's 1984 spot on Dangerfield's "Young Comedians" special has to be commemorated in some way. At the time, it was the funniest six minutes that had ever happened and could have singlehandedly won him the title in almost any other year. It's also the hardest I have ever laughed without drugs being involved. Sadly, I can't link to it because of the language and because it crosses about 35 lines of decency. But it's easily found, if you catch my drift.)
1985-86: David Letterman
Went from "cult hero" to "established mainstream star," ushered in the Ironic Comedy Era, pushed the comedy envelope as far as it could go, and if you want to dig deeper, supplanted Carson as the den father for that generation of up-and-comers and new superstars (Murphy, Leno, Seinfeld, Michael Keaton, Tom Hanks, Howard Stern, etc.) ... and on a personal note, had a bigger influence on me than anyone other than my parents. One of two people that I could never meet because I would crumble like a crumb cake. (You can guess the other.)1987: Jay Leno, Howard Stern (tie)
Seems like a million years ago, but Leno's frequent appearances on Letterman's show and enjoyable "Tonight Show" guest host spots stole the '87 title from Letterman just because he seemed newer and fresher. (Note: The Leno-Letterman spot always delivered the goods. They were unbelievable together. That's what made it so unbelievable when Leno backstabbed him for the "Tonight Show" job.) Meanwhile, Stern's morning show had become a tri-state phenomenon and reached the point that people were trading cassette tapes; he even landed a Fox pilot that year.1988: Eddie Murphy
Reclaimed the throne with "Coming to America" one year after "Raw." Also, Arsenio Hall's show had taken off and Eddie was a frequent guest. The last great Eddie year. Alas.1989: Dana Carvey
SNL's first breakout star in five years thanks to the Church Lady, his Bush Senior impersonation and a bunch of other things that didn't really hold up. What's weird is that Phil Hartman's SNL stuff held up much better, only it took Carvey leaving for people to realize how great Hartman was.1990: Billy Crystal
Never had a career year but accumulated enough momentum from his stupendous SNL stint (1984-85), "City Slickers," his HBO comedy special and his late-night guest spots that his 1990 Oscars host job (the best ever to that point) wins him the award in a weak year. FYI: You could make a decent Bill Hicks case here, but he just wasn't well-known enough.1991: Jerry Seinfeld
The year his show started taking off, much to the delight of everyone who loved him from his Letterman/Carson spots and the four episodes from the previous summer. I will never forget me and my buddy Kurt Sanger trying to convince everyone else we knew in college to watch the first episode of Season 2 with us (January 1991) and only a couple biting.1992: Jerry Seinfeld, Mike Myers (tie)
Seinfeld's show became a smash hit; Myers was SNL's biggest star during a resurgent era and also made a hit movie ("Wayne's World," now the most dated comedy of all time and totally weird to watch, although the "Bohemian Rhapsody" scene remains funny).1993: Mike Myers
Weak year. Myers had SNL, "Wayne's World 2" and "So I Married An Axe Murderer." You could talk me into giving the entire "Simpsons" writing staff this spot just to get them on the list.1994: Jim Carrey
"Ace Ventura," "The Mask" and "Dumb & Dumber." Has anyone ever gone three-for-three with smash hits in one year? Now he's just a crazy person on Twitter.1995: Chris Farley
His long-awaited "I always loved Chris Farley and now I feel totally vindicated because I knew he was going to be famous" year with "Tommy Boy." Which still holds up, by the way. Silver medal to Norm MacDonald for crushing it on "Weekend Update" during and after the O.J. trial.1996: Chris Rock
He underachieved on SNL to the point that, when he switched to "In Living Color" for one year, nobody gave a crap. By 1995, he had fallen into the "doing guest spots on 'Martin' and 'Fresh Prince of Bel Air'" stage of his career. And then, out of nowhere ... "Bring The Pain" happened. The best stand-up special since Eddie in his prime. Who knew?1997: Garry Shandling
The best season ever (Season 5) of one of the greatest comedies ever ("The Larry Sanders Show") peaks with "The Roast" (the single funniest episode in the history of the show). Good enough to win a weak year.1998: Adam Sandler
Became an A-List comedy franchise with "The Wedding Singer" and "The Waterboy." Weak year otherwise.1999: Mike Myers, Chris Rock (tie)
"Austin Powers 2" (and A-List celeb status) for Myers; "Bigger and Blacker" special and an inventive weekly HBO show for Rock.2000: Will Ferrell
At the height of his SNL powers at this point thanks to his Dubya impersonation. You could make a very strong "Will Ferrell was the greatest cast member in the history of SNL" case.2001: Matt Stone, Trey Parker (tie)
A seminal season for "South Park" (Season 5) peaks with the ballsy Osama episode just eight weeks after 9/11. Weird year for comedy in general. You could make a strong case for Ricky Gervais here; I would give it to him except for the fact that I hate British people.2002: Larry David
His best "Curb Your Enthusiasm" season (Season 2) and it featured my single favorite episode (the one with Krazee-Eyez Killa).2003: Dave Chappelle
Season 1. Enough said. The last unequivocal, there-is-no-doubt-whatsoever-that-he-has-the-title comedy season.2004: Dave Chappelle, Jon Stewart (tie)
Season 2 for Chappelle and a breakout year for Stewart (the 2004 election, his "Crossfire" appearance, the release of his book and his Peabody Award).2005: Steve Carell
"The Office" takes off and "The 40 Year Old Virgin" hits theaters. Good enough to take a splintered year. Thanks to the Internet boom and cable boom, comedy now became so specialized that it became infinitely more difficult to say one person was "The Funniest Man Alive." My personal choice: Ferrell again, just because of "Anchorman."2006: Sacha Baron Cohen
Borat. More than enough.2007: Larry David
Comeback year for "Curb" as the Blacks move into Larry's house. Runner-up: Judd Apatow.2008: Tina Fey
"30 Rock" takes off and Palin falls into her lap. Our first and only woman!2009: Zach Galafaniakis
His "Hangover" role was funnier than anything anyone else did ... right?2010: ????????
Five months to go. Haven't had a breakout star yet. Unless you count the double rainbow guy. So there you go.
Who do you think is the funniest person alive right now? Who's the funniest person you know personally? And who's the funniest person of all-time?
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Funniest guy right now to me
Stephen Colbert. He’s intelligent, he’s undeniably unique, and he’s viciously clever. He’s been on a decade-long run of excellence. The best part for me is that I’ve been with him from the beginning.
His Daily Show bits are still excellent six to eight years later; he fit the fake correspondent persona perfectly. Hard for me to believe Steve Carrell, Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart were all on the same stage at once. (Let’s not forget the underrated Strangers with Candy.)
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by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 23, 2010 1:24 AM PDT reply actions
Were Carrell and Stewart on Strangers With Candy?
If you want to go far enough back, Carrell and Colbert were at Second City together at the same time. I believe Colbert was Carrell’s understudy.
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Correcto.
They even did skits together on the Dana Carvey Show.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-R-E-A-K-I-N-H-E-R-O-U-T-M-A-N"
Stephen vs. Steven was one of the best running bits they ever had.
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Tim Heidecker and Eric Wareheim
or Brendan Small. I’m concerned that I no longer find conventional humor funny (HIMYM, Big Bang, 30 Rock, etc.)
Zach G is a good choice too.
Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
Never heard of those first three guys. Do they have shows?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 23, 2010 1:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job!
and Tom Goes to the Mayor are both Tim and Eric productions.
Home Movies, Metalocalypse and Small’s. All stuff on Adult Swim.
Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
Your list needs more Eddie Izzard.
Arguably the funniest guy of the last decade.
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It’s Simmons’s list.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 23, 2010 2:18 AM PDT up reply actions
this is something that seems as though it could vary incredibly widely on a person-to-person scale. like asking “what’s the best-ever best ice cream flavor?” it also sounds like good 1,000+ comments material!
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LA sucks?
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OMG, heretic. Peanut butter and chocolate and I will smite anybody who disagrees. Unless they go with mint chip, which I could get on board with.
I’m a mint chip guy myself, but I like other flavors plenty. Pistachio is good when it’s done right. Indian pistachio can be pretty interesting (in a good way)
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
oh yes, I agree.
marry me?
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Jul 23, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
We could totally hang, solar.
Used to make up a batch of mocha almond choc fudge and take it with us up to houseboat on Shasta. BBQ steak n’ ribs, home-made ice cream, and lots of patron.
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Daaaaammmn.
You’d better be hittin’ those surf chicks if you’re going to live at 9%. That’s just rong, dude.
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if i party on the Kodiyacht i might have to hit two-a-days to burn everything off. painnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn…
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Weekend bro date on a houseboat! How romantic.
"UC Davis??? hahahahaha" - Aaron Rodgers
by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m no third wheel.
"UC Davis??? hahahahaha" - Aaron Rodgers
by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
What if we throw in fish tacos and let you bring Ms. Atoms?
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how is atoms supposed to *&$% a mermaid if the ms. comes along?!
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
You had me at fish tacos.
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Best part is that at Shasta, you can catch the fish fresh for every meal. And the water is so clean that everything tastes bluidy f-ing awesome.
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That sounds absolutely fantastic. What’s the season for that?
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Are lawrys typically caught in the fall, or are they more of a springtime fish?
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I disagree with your “the water is so clean statement”
primarily for the months of May through July… Kids from UO, OSU and UC Davis do their damndest to prevent that cleanliness thing from happening
"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"
Houseboats! Tau Beta Pi houseboat, ftw!
by OaktownAggie on Jul 23, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
And that would be why we always go before spring break season…
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Alas, I only went once. Also, only kidding about Tau Beta Pi… we only joked about it. Do you really think we could convince any our engineering nerd brethren to go?
by OaktownAggie on Jul 23, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I must admit to buzzing a houseboat full of drunken frat-folk during pre-dawn hours…Not proud of it…But the *ssholes were being really obnoxious the night before and didn’t respect any inkling of personal space out on a very big lake.
It was absolutely awesome seeing their boat rock and hearing the screams…Pretty sure I caught the hell out of the fish that am, too. Karma must have approved.
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No shame in it. Houseboats is probably one of the most unsavory traditions. It really should be either reined in or ended. I’ve heard too many stories about exceedingly drunk peoples falling off boats, almost drowning because they passed out drunk in an innertube, etc.
by OaktownAggie on Jul 23, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
One of my friends was on one that almost sank. I guess they overloaded it with drunk people…
It’s pretty scary how easy it is to rent one. The first time we did it, a bored teen gave us a two minute “this turns it on…this is forward/back. Okay-bye” spiel and set us loose. I’ve heard the rental companies make a ton of $$$ on repairs. Not too surprising.
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“Honor Society.” Like Phi Beta Kappa for engineers.
by OaktownAggie on Jul 23, 2010 7:06 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
WHAT PART OF YOUR LIST NEEDS MORE EDDIE IZZARD, AVINASH, IS SO CONFUSING TO YOU?!??!
I DON’T WANT TO HEAR ANY MORE EXCUSES! PUT EDDIE IZZARD IN THAT LIST OR ELSE I’M BUSTING YOU DOWN TO HIT SQUAD!
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Woo-hoo! Rookie hazing! Someone tell CALumbus Bear we’re gonna need the tar and feathers back.
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Also, we have a mod transferring in from Alligator Army. He always wanted to come to CGB, but went to AA at the last second. He felt there were too many distractions over there, so he’s coming here. He can be a Follettariat. Play rough.
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p.s. it is “promoting up” to Hit Squad. If we’ll have him. Which we won’t.
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by CALumbus Bear on Jul 23, 2010 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions
YOU TAKE AVI OR ELSE I’M BUSTING YOU DOWN TO MARSHAWNTHUSIAST! I’LL DO IT, TOO! DON’T PUSH ME!
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Don’t worry, CALumbus Bear. We’ve got your back.
(Pssst. Dibs on his stuff!)
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How much do you want 35 years worth of back issues to Model Railroading Monthly????
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oh!
starts rifling through desk for hidden money
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Jul 23, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Look, you glorified Jahvidticion, remember what I said about speaking directly to me. You must always start with “May it please the Self-Appointed Chief Ultra Justice…”
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by CALumbus Bear on Jul 23, 2010 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I was just thinking, “what a strange coincidence that all the funniest people ever are Americans!” Like we have some sort of monopoly on humor or something. Well, all Americans plus SBC.
"UC Davis??? hahahahaha" - Aaron Rodgers
by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, fair point. They live here now though. Canadian-Americans!
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I nominate Ohio Bear & CALumbus Bear for the DBD 7.23.10 Funny People Award.
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I read that as “Funny Looking People Award” and was about to feel offended.
Yes, I am an Old Blue. Now get off my lawn.
As long as I get some sort of plaque, I’ll be happy.
Kods, don’t get excited, I’m talking the kind of plaque you find on walls, not teeth.
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by CALumbus Bear on Jul 23, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions
You get happy about the weirdest things, man.
From what I understand, they have to run that wire + balloon up your *ss in order to clear off the arterial walls in a bypass operation.
But heeeey, you follow your bliss.
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Ah, reminds me of that party at Cloyne.
Wait, what?
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by CALumbus Bear on Jul 23, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd rec'd
a thousand times rec’d.
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Jul 23, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
What if I bring you a plaque in exchange for a job in your office? Also, I’ll bring lots of scotch and my humidor.
The The is above making sense.
The The, this has been the best interview since I’ve been here. Ohio Bear likes your spunk. Oh wait, now that I’ve used that word, if we hire you, you’d have a sexual harassment case against us. Sorry.
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by CALumbus Bear on Jul 23, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Cal football single game tickets are available
Cal will open its final year of action in the current configuration of Memorial Stadium before it undergoes retrofit and renovation, on Saturday, Sept. 4 vs. UC Davis. The upcoming season also includes visits from Colorado (Sept. 11), UCLA (Oct. 9), Arizona State (Oct. 23), Oregon (Nov. 13), Stanford (Nov. 20) and Washington (Nov. 27).
Tickets are available in any of the following sections to fit every fan’s budget.
• Reserved – Best seats in the house
• Corner – Great reserved seats at a discounted price for most games
• BlueZone – Family-friendly pricing for adults, youth and seniors for most games
Fans can also purchase a 3-Game Plan, which includes a ticket to the UCLA and Oregon contests, along with a choice of either Colorado or Washington.
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Cal football billboard voting continues
Voting ends Monday. Vote often
Where the voting currently stands:
The Band 641
The Team 558
The Spirit 522
The Cannon477
The Axe 445
Memorial Stadium 306
The Fans 306
Oski 257
Total 3512
Yes, I am an Old Blue. Now get off my lawn.
That’s not where the voting currently stands. They haven’t updated it in a while.
"UC Davis??? hahahahaha" - Aaron Rodgers
by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Someone is shooting missles at us????
O, reading comprehension fail, you were shouting and all.
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by CALumbus Bear on Jul 23, 2010 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Someone is shooting missles at us????
O, reading comprehension fail, you were shouting and all.
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by CALumbus Bear on Jul 23, 2010 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions
The worst part about this double post is how much costs were assessed against me!
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Another great day of DBD lag and double posts. The only thing worse than a Twist post is a Twist double post.
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by CALumbus Bear on Jul 23, 2010 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions
What about me coming over to your place of employment and reading my posts out loud to you? Wouldn’t that be worse?
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I’m willing to test this theory. How soon can you be over here?
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by CALumbus Bear on Jul 23, 2010 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, please advise. I need to know when I have to leave.
Yes, I am an Old Blue. Now get off my lawn.
Will Andrew Breitbart’s reign of terror ever end!??!?!?!
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Probably not anytime soon.
"UC Davis??? hahahahaha" - Aaron Rodgers
by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Kevin Riley on the Manning Award watch list
In case you hadn’t seen this yet, calbears.com put out an "official" story on this
Riley is the Pac-10’s active career leader in wins with a 15-8 all-time record and touchdown passes (37). His 28 games played are tied for the most by any active conference quarterback, while his 23 starts are second. He has completed 357-of-659 passes (54.2%) for 4,773 yards during his career.
Last year, he had a solid season, starting all 13 games and completing 209-of-382 passes (54.7%) for 2,850 yards with 18 touchdown throws and eight interceptions. His 2,850 passing yards and 2,901 yards of total offense both ranked as the fourth-highest single-season totals in school history, while his 18 TD passes are tied for 10th on the school’s single-season list.
The Manning Award was created by the Allstate Sugar Bowl in 2004 to honor the football accomplishments of Archie, Peyton and Eli Manning. It is the only quarterback award that takes into consideration the candidates’ bowl performances. Ten finalists will be selected in late-November. The winner will be announced after the bowls in January and will be honored at a ceremony in New Orleans.
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Watch Cal softball players on TV
Three Bears to Play in Televised Games in 2010 KFC World Cup of Softball
Three Golden Bears – former letterwinner Vicky Galindo and current student-athletes Valerie Arioto and Jamia Reid – have taken temporary residence in Oklahoma City for the 2010 KFC World Cup of Softball. Four-year Bear and Olympian Galindo is competing for gold with the U.S. senior national team while Arioto and Reid sport the red, white and blue for the U.S. Futures Team. ESPN will air seven games, including the July 24 game pitting the senior squad versus the Futures, on ESPN, ESPN2 as well as ESPN3.com.
The World Cup is July 22-26 at the ASA Hall of Fame Stadium, which recently hosted the 2010 NCAA Women’s College World Series. The Futures team gets its name for the sheer number of players that transition from the team to the senior national squad.
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Cal alumni golfer report
Peter Tomasulo tied for 24th after 1st round of Nationwide Tour event in Columbus, Ohio. Peter is 6 shots off the lead
On the PGA TOUR, Charlie Wi is tied for 51st after 1st round of the RBCCanadian Open
Charlie shot a 1-under par 69 yesterday and is 7 shots off the lead
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YO is previewing the Pac-10 football season
No. 9: Arizona State. If picking Washington State to finish last is a slam dunk, projecting ASU at No. 9 is an easy finger roll layup. That’s where the Sun Devils finished last season and they don’t look any better — and quite possibly substantially worse — this season. At least last year ASU had its defense going for it. The Sun Devils finished last year ranked No. 13 in the country in total defense (297.58 yards allowed per game). ASU has lost seven starters from that unit and doesn’t appear to have done much to improve its anemic offense.
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Giants shut out the Snakes, 3-0
Eight strong innings for Matt Cain. Grant at McCovey Chronicles weighs in:
The difference between Matt Cain: innings-eating horse, and Matt Cain: top-o’-the-rotation starter is a plus changeup. That’s what turned Jason Schmidt into a Cy Young winner (non-’roids division), and tonight Cain had the plus changeup. Cain’s fastball is hard to pick up and sneaky fast, and his breaking ball can be tight, but if he can consistently throw the changeup as well as he did tonight, that will be the thing that makes him. That’s an if, not a when, of course. But games like tonight’s make it easy to dream.
Also, credit to Bochy for getting Cain out of the game even though there was a shutout intact. The only reason to keep Cain in the game was for the accumulation of teeth-gritting gumption points. Not worth it. Sorry, Mr. Jenkins. Tonight, discretion was the better part of valor. Well done, Bochy. Well done.
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by Ohio Bear on Jul 23, 2010 2:34 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The Giants could play the 2011 season opener in...wait for it...
The Giants would open the 2011 season with a two-game series in Taiwan against the Arizona Diamondbacks if players from both teams approve a proposal from Major League Baseball, sources told the Mercury News on Wednesday.
Players union executive Gene Orza met with the Giants almost two weeks ago in Washington to outline the travel schedule, which would include two exhibitions against the Chinese Taipei national team before taking on the Diamondbacks in late March.
The Giants would return to Scottsdale, Ariz., for an additional week of spring training before resuming the regular season.
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Dodgers shut out the Mets
Second straight 2-0 win for LA. True Blue LA talks about it:
The Dodgers seem to have found the winning formula, and they used it to produce their second straight 2-0 victory, this time over the Mets. The formula is quite simple: have your starter pitch give up no runs and pitch very deep into the game, and have one batter drive in both runs, one on a solo home run.
Hiroki Kuroda won the duel of 35-year old Japanese pitchers, outlasting Hisanori Takahashi for his eighth win of the season. Kuroda was brilliant in his eight scoreless innings, following the Chad Billingsley blueprint from Wednesday with 15 groundball outs of his own. Dodger starting pitchers have now thrown 17 straight scoreless innings, inducing 31 groundball outs.
Matt Kemp drove an 0-2 pitch to right field for a double in the first inning, driving in Jamey Carroll — that’s left fielder (against lefties) Jamey Carroll to you, bub — for the Dodgers first run. Kemp added some insurance with a shot into the left field pavilion in the seventh inning.
Hong-Chih Kuo, who warmed up for the third straight game — a rarity for him — pitched the ninth inning for his third save of the season, on a night of rest for Jonathan Broxton. It appears any kid gloves that were used on Kuo are now a thing of the past.
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by Ohio Bear on Jul 23, 2010 2:38 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Free Darko: Jeremy Lin the most important Asian-American athlete ever?
There is no narrative for an Asian American kid who led his team to a state title, went completely unrecuited, settled for Harvard, for chrissake, dominated the Ivies, went undrafted and then signed with an NBA team straight out of the summer league. Does anyone’s story in the NBA deserve more of a FTW? And while it might be technically true to say that he is his own man and should not have to bear the yoke of his people, that truth is utterly irrelevant. His story is so perfect that it will be gobbled up and turned into metaphor, he will be a experiment for how ESPN discusses "his kind," he will be the litmus test of where Stu Scott can go and where he cannot, he will be most easily accessible, visible counterpoint to the emasculated Asian male. He will be the Great Yellow Hope for millions of Asian people, not just in the Bay Area, but in Flushing, K-Town, Little Saigon, Annandale, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Taipei and Beijing.
And yet, while repairing our faith in the multi-cultural vision by placing himself in the country’s most unlikely forum, the Great Yellow Hope of Jeremy Lin is not about equality at all. He might make a smiling cameo in the soft-handed dream, but he didn’t get to where he is because of it. His promise buries itself into more personal and violent lines—we are asking him, or, rather, his body, through the arbitrary act of helping five other men put a ball through a hoop more efficiently than five other men, to undo the harm of the stereotypes we do not discuss, to give us an icon to rally around without reservation or fear that our great hero might also reject us for the novelty of our wiring.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 23, 2010 2:40 AM PDT reply actions
People in Taipei care. . . people in Beijing? Not so much. He very vociferiously identifies as Taiwanese American.
One of the guys I play basketball with here in Shanghai is a close friend of Lin’s – he has said, its a good thing he didn’t get into a Pac-10 school. Being passed over made him work that much harder and play with a chip on his shoulder – and made him work his ass off every summer to get better – that might not have happened backing up Fields at the Furd or Randle and Nikola at Cal.
From a small sample size, Asians of all types care around here. ALL of my bball-playing Asian patients were talking about it this week. We’re talking jr high/HS students, college people, even adults. And not just Taiwanese, or Chinese…plus both males and females. Pretty exciting.
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Hong Kong, Tokyo, Taipei and Beijing.
Taipei aside, unless he plays well, no one – especially anyone in Tokyo – will care. Hell, no one cared about Yuta Tabuse. Few people care about Sue Yue or Mengke Bateer either.
Is that small sample size you and your two daughters?
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I just asked them (they are the smallest of the samples, after all).
The kid said “is he a Bear?” (sniff. Verrah proud!)
The baby spit up banana everywhere and cooed cutely.
So, that’s a yes!
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But by splitting up a banana, do you think she was rejecting her Asian-Ameican heritage and the concept of Asian-American heritage in general? Perhaps shes post-racial now and to her Jeremy Lin isn’t a Taiwanese American, but instead just an American.
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I asked her.
She spit up some cheerios (multigrain!), blueberries, and strawberries. I think she’s equal opportunity. I’m proud of her for being so open-minded at such an early age.
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Uh oh…Now she’s feeding the food to the dog. Don’t do it, baby! The terrorists will win!!!
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Thursday was an off day for the A's
But they still had a robust thread yesterday on Athletics Nation.
More than 1,200 comments debating the issue of lewdness and profanity on the blog
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A's don't plan to make moves at the trading deadline
Or so they say. So Susan Slusser (Chronicle) writes about the best and worst of Billy Beane’s trades from Julys past.
BEST JULY TRADING
July 23-31, 1999 – In a flurry, Beane acquired:
— Outfielder Terrence Long from the Yankees for pitchers Kenny Rogers and Omar Olivares.
— Infielder Randy Velarde from the Angels.
— Pitcher Kevin Appier from the Royals.
— Pitchers Jason Isringhausen and Greg McMichael from the Mets for closer Billy Taylor.
WORST JULY TRADING
July 8, 2008 – Sending Rich Harden to the Cubs was the worst July trade Beane has made. The deal netted three players since traded: outfielders Eric Patterson and Matt Murton and pitcher Sean Gallagher. Harden went 5-1 with a 1.77 ERA for the Cubs that season and has had mixed results since.
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If readers do not care for profanity, crass innuendo, or off-topic discussion, they should simply stay out of the game threads and DLDs.
It’s like looking into a mirror.
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New nomination for 7/23/10 Funny People…
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This paragraph from one of the mods there shows how powerful AN is how weak we are in comparison:
Now, no one is really saying that we have lost our way. As I said, never before has this blog (or any non-political blog, really) enjoyed such a tremendous sphere of influence and cache among even the denizens of established media. This should be clear, if only from the idea that when we have a tailgate in the Coliseum parking lot, mainstream media types like Susan Slusser and the aforementioned host of A’s Talk are often there hanging out with us. Chris himself has told me that his bosses at the radio station read this thing cover-to-cover, including every single comment, on a daily basis… as well they should, as this is the Numero Uno outpost of substantive and informed material of, by and for the Athletics’ fanbase that exists in the world today. When you saw Brodie Brazil from CSN come on and essentially ask all of us exactly what the TV postgame show should look like, there was a reason for that, and the reason is that this blog has become THE oasis in the desert as far as A’s content.
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Maybe CGB should invite Okanes, Wilner, and/or Crumpacker to a CGB tailgate, to establishing ourselves as an outpost of legitimate Cal content.
If they don’t believe us, we can just get them drunk and steal their press passes.
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We briefly come up when PaulThomas says he likes how we were more open with the politics rule, even if I didn’t do a great job of promulgating it (which is a fair point).
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Also it looks like theyve backed off:
iglew, mikev, and DMOAS have stepped forward to volunteer as ambassadors, to remind their peers over the next couple weeks that as a community we are making a good faith effort to show that this can be accomplished without any administrative policing or formal rules. Their goal is not to admonish anyone, but rather just to, as needed, remind commenters — some of whom may forget and some of whom may have missed yesterday’s thread — that the community is making a mindful effort to balance the “well placed f-bomb” and “irresistible innuendo” with a place that is comfortable and interesting to those who may not care for AN’s “after darkier side.” Anyone else who wants to offer to help iglew, mikev, and DMOAS can speak up at any time, as there is a lot of AN to read. And thanks to those three for stepping up!
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The Lake Show signs Matt Barnes and Theo Ratliff
Here is Silver Screen and Roll’s Take
This is a nifty pair of additions for the Lakers. Barnes we discussed in detail
earlier today; he gives the team excellent depth at the wing positions and will improve what already promised to be one of the league’s elite team defenses. When Ron Artest is off the floor, the drop-off won’t be nearly what opponents might’ve hoped for. Ratliff is ancient and very limited offensively, but he proved with Charlotte last year that he’s still an impact defender. His job will be to guard the rim and rebound in Taco Unit minutes while playing a slightly bigger role from time to time when Pau Gasol or Andrew Bynum is on the shelf. It’s not the sexiest signing ever, but it fills a need. Perhaps most important, it means the team can bring Derrick Caracter along slowly and not press him into action as the emergency backup center.
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First Artest, then Bell (although he didn't go for it), now Barnes
Kobe seems to have infinite respect for people who don’t back down from him.
Barnes is an instant upgrade from Vujacic and Ratliff provides some nice defense off the bench while Bynum recovers from surgery. This Laker bench could be a hundred times better next season (Powell and Mbenga gave them nothing, Vujacic and Morrison close to nothing) and could keep Kobe from having to play so many minutes down the stretch.
Starting to look more and more like Lakers-Heat in the 2011 NBA Finals. With this all defensive squad LA is constructing (outside of D-Fish), I favor Hollywood over South Beach right now.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 23, 2010 2:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Kobe’s said as much in the past as well about guys like Bruce Bowen who are preceived to play dirty – he just thinks they’re playing hard defense.
Sandy Barbour and Coach Tedford will be speaking at Cal alumni event in New York City on Monday
Passing this info along in case anyone in that area wants to go. I just found out about it this morning. RSVP deadline has been extended.
Cal reception at MJ Armstrongs in NYC
Hors d’oeuvres and open bar sponsored by the New York Metro Committee.
$10 per person in advance, $15 at the door. Space is limited. Please register at discovercal.berkeley.edu or by calling 1-888-UNIV-CAL by July 21.
Monday, July 26, 2010
MJ Armstrongs
329 1st Avenue (@ 19th St.),
New York
Speakers
Please join the New York Metro Committee of the University of California, Berkeley for a happy hour reception and a sneak peek at the California Golden Bears football season with special guest Coach Jeff Tedford and Sandy Barbour. Show your Cal spirit by wearing your blue and gold.
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I’ll be there! Full report…if I don’t get trashed.
Proud to hold season tickets to the only NBA team owned by a Russian oligarch.
by yellow fever on Jul 23, 2010 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions
But a full report if you do get trashed would be fun, too.
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That would be more of a fool report.
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by CALumbus Bear on Jul 23, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Or another rickroll!
Proud to hold season tickets to the only NBA team owned by a Russian oligarch.
by yellow fever on Jul 23, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
THat would be perfect time for YF to ask Sandy for a press pass. Liquid courage, YF, liquid courage.
So how would I identify myself? I’m [real name] from the California Golden Blogs, or Yellow Fever?
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by yellow fever on Jul 23, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Use both. [first name] “yellow fever” [last name]
p.s. If/when I buy NCAA 11 for my PS3, I can do dynasty online.
This does NOT impress the ladies. Even if you're a judge.
“Socially inept” Pennsylvania judge receives 2-month suspension
In a 20-page written opinion issued last month, the court said [Judge Gerard] Alonge called the women repeatedly — often at night, even after being told to stop — and learned intimate details of their private lives that suggested he had investigated them.
“This is beyond unsettling — this is scary,” wrote Judge Joseph M. James for the seven-member court.
A part-time public defender arrived home in October 2007 with her young son in the car and was surprised when Alonge pulled in behind her, introduced himself and said he was there “to meet the phenomenal and sensational attorney” he had heard about.
When Alonge called her the next night, the woman told her boyfriend, “It appears as though I have a man freak on my hands,” according to the opinion.
“We regard this conduct … as preposterous and certainly as demonstrating an appalling lack of judgment and good sense,” James wrote.
Friedman [the judge’s attorney] described his client as “socially inept and challenged with women,” a harmless would-be Romeo who hasn’t dated in years. He said the never-married judge has difficulty picking up on social cues, takes medication and sees a psychologist weekly for help with depression and obsessive-compulsive disorder.
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So, since you and CALumbus Bear are friends and colleagues…Isn’t it your job to throw an intervention before he gets to this point?
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This is a sad story.
BTW, funny story, I was at a mixer the other day and a judge I appear in front of often was just mocking this other attorney who wasn’t there. Saying how boring he was and how she has to get chocolate to stay awake sometimes. I knew that the judges talked mad shit, but this was remarkably open. I didnt know who the lawyer was, but another person talking to the judge knew him very well.
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Might we attribute the judge’s candor to the consumption of adult beverages during the mixer?
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Potentially. She also said I had the most awesome sunglasses ever, so I’d like to think she was stone cold sober.
Either way, I’m always surprised at how high school the practice of law is.
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If she was complimenting your attire in any way, she was obviously completely blitzed out of her mind.
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions
An interesting look at college bball recruiting
The image of college basketball has taken a beating in recent years, with rumors, murmurs and innuendo about cheating spreading like wildfire. Cynics believe no one is trying to follow the NCAA rulebook and that the game has fallen victim to the begging hands of agents, runners and hangers-on looking to collect on the next NBA star.
Is it that bad? What are the real problems? And is the NCAA doing enough to fix those problems?
To get the answers, ESPN.com went to the sources. During the EYBL Peach Jam last week, we interviewed 20 high-profile head coaches, representing each of the six power conferences. With the promise of full anonymity, we asked them to tell the truth about their sport.
And they did.
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However, the silly bump rule can get downright dirty if taken to the extreme. Most of the NCAA reps are women, and women can’t go into men’s rooms. There’s a real paranoia that some coaches are following prospects or their coaches or parents into the restrooms to broker deals.
“I don’t know. I’ve never won a recruit in the bathroom,‘’ one coach said. "Maybe I need to pee more.’’
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The bump rule si basically you cant interact with the players at certain times. But the people who enforce it are apparetly mostly all woman.
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This quote raised an eyebrow:
Along with the coach who called the women, “the gestapettes,” another said, "If the NCAA was serious, they’d hire someone who knew what they were doing, not these women out here trying to get a husband.’’
Yes, I am an Old Blue. Now get off my lawn.
I’ve never heard of that quote! Thanks for posting it in this DBD. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to “Z” to the next comment in this thread.
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Along with the coach who called the women, “the gestapettes,” another said, "If the NCAA was serious, they’d hire someone who knew what they were doing, not these women out here trying to get a husband.’’
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OhioBear, thank you very much for bringing those stories over. You have made me very happy.
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I actually had a DBD all written up for today, but Avi beat me to the posting. But I went ahead and posted the stories anyway, just to MAKE YOU HAPPY!
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I appreciate that. Like writing the DBDs on a near daily basis, bringing the Around the SBN stories into here can get tiring after a while. I appreciate a break. I’m reading through this AN thread here. It always makes me happy to look at the moderation policies of over blogs. Its interesting how laizzez faire we have things. And, honestly, how much better we seem to have things here. Most people seem able to handle themselves in a respectable manner and we rarely have flamewars…..anymore.
PS Fuck you, you fucking fucker.
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PS Fuck you, you fucking fucker
There’s no need to be so fucking profane. What the fuck?
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Might we attribute Ohio Bear’s candor to the consumption of adult beverages at this early hour?
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I think hes still partying from last night. He never stopped!
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Yes, I celebrated the Warriors 1975 NBA Championship all night long after watching the clincher on ESPN Classic.
NEED MOAR COFFEE
Yes, I am an Old Blue. Now get off my lawn.
Fuck sympathy! He doesn’t need your fuckin’ sympathy! He needs his fuckin’ johnson!
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God damn you LeonPowe! You fuckin’ asshole! Everything’s a fuckin’ travesty with you, man!
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Up in North Hollywood on Radford, near the In ’N Out Burger…
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Is there still a Ralphs on Ventura at Coldwater Canyon?
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Google street view says yes.
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
WHOSE STYLE DUDE?
Costs STILL assessed against Twist
by CALumbus Bear on Jul 23, 2010 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Twist, where’s my thanks for Wed’s DBD and bringing over some SBN stories? I WANT A RAISE.
/storms off
I swear to Bak Bak if you keep bisexual Anna Pacquain and her missing New Zealand accent away from me another moment!
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Twist to English Translator:
“Thank you from the bottom of my heart for doing Wednesday’s DBD, boomtho. I’m a bit burnt out from doing all the DBD’s and I really, really, reaaaaally appreciate it whenever anyone steps up and helps out. Sadly enough, I lost 2/3rd’s of my brain in a tragic paint thinner accident, so I have trouble communicating with normal humanz. Thank you for being you. Keep it up and I promise to spoon with you the next time I see you. Hugs n’ kisses. Your Twisty.”
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I need an English to Twist translation back. Thanks.
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is not remotely funny
Yes, but he’s funny up close.
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by CALumbus Bear on Jul 23, 2010 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like you need a visit from The Snuggler

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by CALumbus Bear on Jul 23, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
wow
i just watched that and think he is even less funny than before. hats off to you, sir, for taking to a place I never knew existed
The New Futurama Episodes
I posit that the writing lacks both creativity and wit. Verdict: not funny. DISCUSS!
There doesn’t happen to be any photographic evidence of this, eh?
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
My curiosity is piqued, yes.
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Not a bad look for her. I didn’t realize she graduated already.
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
BIOFAB DNA factory
(Link)
Six months since it launched, the world’s first factory for making professional-quality biological DNA ‘parts’ is beginning to stock its shelves…JBEI in the news. I’m guessing at least one of our commentors has some connection to this.BIOFAB aims to up the game by providing free biological parts that researchers can reliably use in their work, say Endy and codirector Adam Arkin, a bioengineer at the University of California, Berkeley. Housed at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory’s Joint BioEnergy Institute in Emeryville, BIOFAB is so far a small-scale operation. Four or five staff scientists share a bench in a vast fourth-floor laboratory, where they design and test DNA constructs. Endy, Arkin and a few others bring the total number of staff to 10.
Chem 1A interference explained
This is an interesting addendum to a chem1A demo [I think this in chem 1A] where they shine laser through a double-slit and look at interference. (Link)
Sinha et al. (2) describe a recent experiment that shows that quantum interference from a single photon arises only from pairs of possible paths through an interferometer. There is no need to invoke additional interference terms that might arise from interactions of three or more paths.
I’ve decided I’m not voting for Queen Meg or Jerry Brown. I’m demanding better candidates.
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--Coach Clark
No. Jahvid Best.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
u can teach all the techniques but players still gotta go out and execute. that’s my opinion.
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You wanted Poizner, huh.
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Interesting piece at AN on Billy Beane and contract extensions
Beane has gotten burned with pretty much every single one of his veteran extensions. Chavez everyone knows about and was alluded to earlier. Dye’s extension was no good either as the A’s nearly lost $25m in salary and value and the Kotsay extension burned a similar hole in the A’s pocket at about $23m. The A’s lost a much smaller sum on Hatty’s deal at around $4m. Ellis’ deal doesn’t even look at this juncture (for a discussion of why I will direct you to Iglew’s piece on UZR). There are some common themes to these deals. All of these players had injury issues when signed to their deals. All of which were considered strong defensive players (Dye’s reputation was mostly with his arm, thought modern metrics weren’t really around Total Zone shows him as more the solid to above average over the previous three years). Chavez was kept off the field but all of Kotsay, Dye, and Ellis went from being good defenders that were adding to their value to losing almost all of their defensive value in Ellis’ case or becoming black holes of suck in the case of Dye and Kotsay.
Furthermore, the A’s strategy of extending “underrated” players like Ellis, Hatteberg, or Kotsay makes it much harder to trade them for value in a market. The A’s rely on underrated players to deal with the fact that if they can’t pay full price for players that are traditionally valued highly. Superstar players like Ryan Howard who are overrated and overpaid would be the deathknell of the team’s budget. Conversely, players that are overrated are easier to win trades that deal them away (just as its easier for the team to build and trade pitchers because of the Coli). This hurts the teams attempt to trade players for prospects to rebuild the farm. The A’s haven’t developed hardly any players that would be rated highly according to traditional views of the game. Therefore when the deadline approaches the A’s are trying to trade players like Mark Ellis, who are seen as bit players by the rest of the league, rather than being seen as above average players for whom good prospect value should be trades. The keeps the A’s from beyond significant Haren/Swisher/Mulder type trades from acquiring good Milb talent in recent years for the parts that don’t make sense on the A’s moving forward.
Finally, we will look at resigning relief pitchers. Who wants a bullpen of Rincon Witasick Mathews Wuertz? Well in the years that Beane signed them they produced a grand total of .5 WAR thats $2m in todays wins. Witasick was paid more by himself. This is really simply a really bad idea
Dear Billy,
DO NOT EXTEND RELIEF PITCHERS, YOU SUCK AT IT.
Love,
DFA
At the end of the day the track record of Beane extending players is pretty mixed. The Mulder, Hudson, Zito, Haren, Hernandez and Swisher deals hold up against the test of time. The problem is that so many others don’t. While the first Chavez extension, Hernandez, and Swisher worked out well for the A’s, in the category that usually performs best for the team, young arby eligible position players, Beane has as many failures as successes. In the riskiest category Beane has had the most success, young starting pitching. Beane has not done well with veteran extensions of relievers or position players beyond their arbitration time. At the end of the day, the team isn’t making good decisions with its veteran extensions and isn’t cleaning up on its arby eligible extensions, which is the only way that teams like the A’s can keep their good players beyond the first non arby years of team control.
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--Coach Clark
Real Bears: Meet the founders of Amyris which operates out of E-ville.

When our founders met at UC Berkeley, they realized they shared a vision. It was a clear vision of a company with a collaborative spirit – a company that would take the promise of synthetic biology and deliver impactful solutions to the world’s most significant problems.
Through a grant from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation to the Institute for OneWorld Health, Amyris’ first mission was to develop the technology for a consistent supply of the low-cost anti-malarial drug, artemisinin. It was a long shot, but we did it. We have granted a royalty-free license to this technology to sanofi-aventis for the commercialization of artemisinin-based drugs. Out of this success, Amyris emerged with a proven technology platform and a unique company built on a foundation of innovation for the greater good.
One might be interested in following the artemisin story, which could be hitting the market in 2010/11. I believe Sanofi-Aventis is the company that will launch artemisin, which was developed at Amyris, if you’re interested in teh stock market.
http://www.amyris.com/index.php/en/products/artemisinin
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--Coach Clark
it was big news a few years earlier. Artemisinin was terribly difficult to isolate ’til jay keasling developed his alternative process, which was then licensed to Amyris and scaled up by Gates $$$.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v440/n7086/full/nature04640.html
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yeah I thought it was a Keasling product, but I couldn’t remember.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
that would be awesome and richly deserverd…you never know who gets it.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
i hear the process is no longer meritocratic but entirely political. if keasling’s ideas work out commercially i don’t see how he could be ignored, unless he decided to go make beaucoup $$$ in the industry.
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Are they floating in a vat of pee? Well, they must be in Sacramento!, no E-Ville.
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by CALumbus Bear on Jul 23, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
So, who is going to the Gilroy Garlic Festival?
Fabio Viviani, the dynamic star of Bravo Television Network’s “Top Chef” series, will conduct a cooking demonstration on July 24 and host Garlic Showdown on July 25. The Garlic Showdown, presented by Raley’s and Nob Hill Foods, will match four prominent Bay Area cooking professionals in an Iron Chef competition on the Festival’s cook-off stage. The contestants will be given a “secret ingredient” and will have two hours to prepare, plate and serve their creations to a select panel of judges.
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Ah, the memories
I wish I was going.
I heard the tickets to the G Fest are $17. I’m so old, I remember when a ticket was $4.
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They are, but you can get solid deals:
All Raley’s, Bel Air Markets and Nob Hill Foods stores throughout Central and Northern California will sell discount admission tickets to the 2010 Garlic Festival at their check stands beginning in early June.
The grocery store chain will sell adult general admission tickets for $15,a $2 discount on the $17 gate admission price; children’s (age 6-12) tickets and seniors tickets ( age 60+) will be available at the stores for $6, a $2 discount, as well. Advance discount tickets are available through July 22.
Children under 6 are admitted free.
Also you could say you are under 6.
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Advance discount tickets are available through July 22.
Shit out of luck
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by CruzinBears on Jul 23, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
The real reason Ohio Bear won't be going
He’ll be too busy at our Jazz & Ribs Fest this weekend.
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by CALumbus Bear on Jul 23, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Me me me!!!!!
Garlic Festival is the shiiiittt
Garlic flavored everything, the garlic shucking contest (these ladies shuck like no other), beer in big tin can cups, fun art and random other booths…
Plus, I gotta win me some more Hermit Crabs this year by throwing ping pong balls in glass jars (I got two last year)
"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"
by CruzinBears on Jul 23, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Pretty good, they have tripled in size in two weeks and starting to look like actual chickens instead of fluffy chicks… They’ve been upgraded to a new taller aquarium, but with the way they are growing I may have to get something else for them soon (You can’t keep them outside til they are over 6 weeks due to the cold, racoons, etc)… Hopefully I’ll be getting a chicken coop from my friend from Modesto soon so as soon as they are ready they can be outside (a guy from modesto has an extra chicken coop, I know, weird right?)
I want to get them in an outdoor setting asap though because they shit like crazy so you have to clean the enclosure daily and rinse out the water and food dishes at least twice a day (they like to poop in those too)
"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"
by CruzinBears on Jul 23, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Did you always imagine you’d be spending your days cleaning out chicken feces?
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
since I was a little boy….
It really not that bad though, and the fact that it is really great composting material is a definite plus… My garden will definitely be benefiting from some chicken shit
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by CruzinBears on Jul 23, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Is it like normal pigeon/bird kinda droppings?
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep… but under the red heat lamp it dries into little disgusting pancakes for easier clean up :)
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God everybody and their mom is getting chickens. Fucking trendy animals.
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I like eggs, I just want people to get eggs in the least humane manner possible.
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Oh don’t worry I’ve started beating the chicks and keeping them in very confined spaces to make sure the least amount of nutrients make it to the end product… Its the American way
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by CruzinBears on Jul 26, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
false, it will be paprika
"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"
by CruzinBears on Jul 23, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions
My cover band is playing at Fortino Winery afterwards on Saturday, nice setting right up the road. $10 or something like that. Look it up on the Internet for details.
Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic.
Charlie Rangel To Face House Ethics Charges
A House investigative committee on Thursday charged New York Rep. Charles Rangel with multiple ethics violations, a blow to the former Ways and Means chairman and an election-year headache for Democrats.
The committee did not immediately specify the charges against the Democrat, who has served in the House for some 40 years and is fourth in House seniority. The announcement by a four-member panel of the House ethics committee sends the case to a House trial, where a separate eight-member panel of Republicans and Democrats will decide whether the violations can be proved by clear and convincing evidence.
The timing of the announcement ensures that it will stretch into the fall campaign, and Republicans are certain to make it an issue as they try to capture majority control of the House. Speaker Nancy Pelosi had once promised to “drain the swamp” of ethical misdeeds by lawmakers in arguing that Democrats should be in charge.
“Most Ethical Congress EVAIR!!!” according to Madame Speaker
Dont confuse the absolute with the relative. This could easily be the most ethical congress ever (it is unclear to me if it is) and still have unethical congresscritters.
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i don’t know how having a tax-evader as the chair of the Ways and Means committee can be construed as anything but unethical. And, perhaps you are thinking in the relative, but Madame Pelosi was not. Recall her “draining the swamp” comments
Im not trying to argue that it good to have a tax evader in charge of anything.
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Don’t encourage him, medvjed. Twist needs to dosta.
Costs STILL assessed against Twist
by CALumbus Bear on Jul 23, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
So, literally over 1/3 of the country is on Facebook? Or does that include things like Facebook groups, fan pages, etc…?
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Feldman chat
[1]
Darryl (Oakland, CA)
Hmmm, Cal’s O Line and D line are looking really good to start 2010. I’ve seen you mention you see them under .500 this year. Senior QB, good lines, good WR and TE, perhaps the best secondary in the Pac 10…What is your train of thought on the low preseason ranking?
Bruce (2:33 PM)
Shaky QB in a league with a lot of good ones. Only two of their top seven tacklers back. I don’t see the point about the secondary. When I mentioned them under .500 in a recent chat, it was in regards to a question about which did I see as more likely 10-2 or 5-7..I think they’re around a .500 team. Cal’s only one 10 games once in the last five years and the QB was a lot different then.
HOW DARE BRUCE FELDMAN BELIEVE RILEY IS A SHAKY QUARTERBACK!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yeah, I also don’t see the point about our secondary, unless the secondaries of all other Pac-10 teams are in bad shape.
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by CALumbus Bear on Jul 23, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
We don’t have “perhaps the best secondary in the Pac-10”.
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Worth noting that that different QB was the scourge of the Earth, as well.
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by yellow fever on Jul 23, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
We deserve the cynicism. We need to go out and prove we can get it done.
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You’re not asking me, but 8+ wins = success, 7 wins = neither a success or a failure, and <7 wins = failure.
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Though, if USC or Oregon is one of the 7 wins, I’ll be willing to bump it up into “success” territory. If ‘Furd is NOT one of the 7 wins, it’s failure.
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously? We could go 1-10 (OK, more realistically, probably like 3-8 or 4-7 at the very least), and as long as we won the Big Game you’d be all right with it?
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions
i’d be fine w/ it. seeing harbaugh’s tortured face would be worth all the fetal positions.
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by solarise on Jul 23, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
At this point, with so much uncertainty on the defense and the Riley factor, I’d consider 8 wins a success. Seeing the way things play out once the season starts (e.g., seeing how good some of our inexperienced players are, seeing how good the rest of the Pac-10 is), we could conceivably have to adjust the number upward or downward.
Also, of course, to be a true success in my mind, we have to beat Stanfurd and Ucla.
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I’m always happy to beat UCLA, but I don’t ache for it like I do beating ’Furd and USC.
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Good won, zoonews
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by CALumbus Bear on Jul 23, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
made my day
anyone else got a shipping notice for their season tix 2day?
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Just read ESPN lunch links...
and looked at the article about UCLA 7-on-7s… How come we don’t have a summer update from the Golden Bear summer workouts?
Umm, because summer workouts are private and closed to the media?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 23, 2010 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, we’d need a “spy” to be watching from afar, or at least not chased away while watching from nearby. There are some folks at BI who have watched 7 on 7s (authorized or unauthorized, I don’t know) in years past and reported on them on their football board.
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i can go sit up on tightwad in my fatigues and report. i will need a lunch fund.
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cruzin is sweetening the deal…i’m charging my camera w/ telephoto lens. someone make this a reality
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That might.....
splane it…. although it seems like in the past we have had access to some pics/videos of Longshore and/or Riley working with his receivers over the summer….
carp's fearless predic
I’m predicting 7-0 at home, a nail-biting win in Nevada, a nail-biting loss at USC, a double-digit loss in Corvallis, a blowout win @ Wazzu, and a toss-up at Zona. I really think this team can go 9-3/10-2 if Riley can hit a) get time to throw and b) hit the man in stride.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Hope you are right
Undefeated at home would be a cool way to close down the “old” Memorial Stadium.
I will also predict that there will be a newcomer to the Dance Team who will catch your fancy.
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Yes!
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
could you kindly advise this newcomer which sorority to rush in the fall?
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Kappa


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by carp on Jul 23, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
You don’t want to recommend tri-delt like a former starbucks barista turned playboy feature?
The The is above making sense.

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by carp on Jul 23, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
None of that yellow matches. Its like playing E and EFlat at the same time!
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you mean playing an E on an oboe?
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by GoldBlooded on Jul 26, 2010 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Best performance of the decade has been decided
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by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 23, 2010 3:10 PM PDT reply actions
Interesting write-up on our football seniors
WR Jeremy Ross: No. 3 (6-0, 213) Impression: An above-average athlete with above-average size, just isn’t a real polished receiver and will need to have a good camp as a kick-return man in order to make an NFL roster. A long shot at best right now.
DT Derrick Hill: No. 76 (6-1, 306) Impression: The guy has some natural power and anchor strength, but he looks real top heavy any time he’s asked to be anything other than a linear athlete. But, his size/power should get him a shot in an NFL training camp as a developmental/free agent type guy.
DE Cameron Jordan: No. 97 (6-4, 282) Impression: Has the size, length and strength to anchor with consistency in the NFL. I think he’s more of a base 4-3 DE, but will also get some looks as a 3-4 DE as well. Looks like a solid two-down contributor to me.
LB Michael Mohamed: No. 18 (6-3, 238) Impression: One of the more fluid/athletic linebacker prospects I have seen this year. I would like to see him be a bit more physical vs. the run, but he’s a gifted run and hit guy who can certainly cover. At worst a core special teams/nickel guy, but I think with some time and development he could end up starting for a team down the line.
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Yeah about what you’d expect from last year’s tape.
Mohamed has the best chance of getting drafted, then maybe Jordan if he breaks out this season.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 23, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
In my opinion, I sort of see it like this:
(1) Jordan
(2) Mohamed
(3) Miller
I actually think Jordan and Miller are our best pro prospects right now. Both just need to produce more in terms of statistics to raise their stock.
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my fish tacos are epic, btw.
hella garlic, fry halibut in evoo…dice up cilantro, sweet onion, green onion, and add to the end of cooking.
serve over warmed tortillas and dress with carp’s guac and pico de gallo I buy from the mexican burrito shack.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
3 ripe Haas avocados…hella garlic (freshly diced), juice from 1 lemon and 2 tablespoons of the burrito restaurant’s pico de gallo.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
I see. I use salt, garlic, small amount of shallots (finely diced) since they are strong when raw, small amount of chives, and lime juice (lemon is fine too). Oh, and a touch of cilantro is cool too.
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What type of fish?
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
halibut (wild)
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Damn, fish tacos sound really good.
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
i thought we were body painting coeds?
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Just when I thought this blog couldn't get any better
it just did.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
CGB Houseboat Tailgate…. with co-eds!
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I may be somewhat slang-challenged, but I could’ve sworn that “wack” was a bad thing.
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah, gotcha.
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Forgot about Vereen. He’s a solid RB, but I just don’t see NFL teams salivating over him.
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If he’s productive enough, he’ll still get drafted…which would continue a remarkable run of every single Cal starting RB getting drafted all the way back to Adimchinobe Echemandu.
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by yellow fever on Jul 23, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not as high on Vereen as everyone else seems to be. I could see him getting drafted in like the 4th round the highest. But more likely 5th to 7th.
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That’s probably true – but at the very least he’d be drafted. Not that there’s really any shame being drafted that low. Both Forsett and Echemandu were drafted in the seventh round and carved out (or are still carving out) decent roles in the NFL for years.
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by yellow fever on Jul 23, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, there’s no shame in being drafted that low. But I thought I read that some people were predicting Vereen in like the 2nd or 3rd round. I don’t see him going that high. But then again, Fresno State’s RB got drafted in the first round last NFL Draft, and he was not that impressive at all.
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If Vereen stays for the full four (no guarantee), he can probably work himself up to 2nd/3rd round status. A lot will depend on the offensive line.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 23, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Vereen just doesn’t have the wow factor. He’s just damn solid. Unfortunately, draft status really seems to rely on hype. With an improved O’line and steady QB play, he might get enough big plays to make a name for himself. On measurables alone, he won’t stand out.
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Draft status relies on hype, but generally most teams draft based on pretty advanced knowledge of what they see.
Vereen looks like a top 5 running back to me.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 23, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
A lot will depend on the offensive line.
And there you go. You seem to be pointing to the OL’s performance, and not Vereen’s. I just don’t think Vereen will go that high. He might have great numbers for us, due to a good OL, but that doesn’t necessarily reflect upon the RB himself. Stats do influence NFL teams, but they’re not completely indicative. I wouldn’t mind seeing Vereen getting drafted that high at all, but I just don’t think it’s going to happen. But then again, I had no clue that Alualu would go #10 overall last year… I thought he was more of a 3rd round pick.
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One mock draft already has Vereen listed in the second round next year.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 23, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Not that this indicates anything about how NFL people value him…just that his name is out there, and he’s the third back who goes off the board here, behind Ingram and Williams of Va Tech.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 23, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
He has a good shot at being the premier back in the Pac-10. Granted, he doesn’t have a ton of competition this year (Rodgers, James, this year’s USC 5-star), but I’m sure that will garner some attention.
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Quizz is sort of a stud and LaMike will get his because of their scheme. I’m sure it’s not rocket science for the other teams to gear up to stop Vereen and let Riley prove that he can make it happen. If Vereen has a monster year, we’re going to be pretty darn happy.
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Forgot about Miller. If the receivers don’t perform well and Miller gets a lot of catches his way, he could definitely be considered and he could leave early.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 23, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
We’ll need to have a great year(or two.)
Size-wise, he’s probably a tweener by NFL standards. But, he definitely has a shot since we don’t have a consistent WR besides Jones right now.
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I don’t really think Miller is a tweener. He’s listed at 6’3" 263 lbs. He’d be better off if he was an inch or two taller but he’s fairly prototypical NFL TE size.
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Maybe I’m old and cynical, but I don’t trust the listed height/weights. I suspect that he’s shorter than the preferred NFL height for TE.
He’s not an overpowering blocker, but he’s not an automatic mismatch as a receiver either. That’s not to say that he can’t develop that way. He’s not Stevens (crushing blocker), Cross (great receiver), or Gonzalez (great blocker and receiver) yet.
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As since I do believe that Miller is one of our best pro prospects on the team, I’m going to keep a closer eye on him this year. However, in my spare time recently I watched a little bit of the Minnesota game again and saw some great blocking by Miller in that game. I’ll have to watch more games, but I think Miller is doing fine in blocking right now.
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He’s a piece of work…. fine piece of ass too
My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
I remember his strength out of HS was supposed to be blocking.
But for some reason, I remember hearing/reading that he was up and down in that department last year. (don’t have any expertise to judge personally)
Maybe it had something to do with his stellar position coaching. Anyone remember who that guy was?
I’d agree that he’s one of our best prospects. With no one besides Jones established at WR, I’d bet that Miller is going to be one of Riley’s favorite targets and that he’s going to have a big year.
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He was up and down. Watch our losses and you’ll see his troubles.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 23, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Loggy!
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
On measurables alone, I still think Jordan gets drafted higher. For some reason, the NFL guys really seem to have some type of formula in their head. It depends on how fast MikeyMo runs at the combine. If he turns in something in the 4.5-4.6 range, then he might go higher than Jordan. DE’s with size that can also move are just in higher demand than LB’s.
I’d love for Jordan to break out this year. I suspect that with Clancy’s emphasis on pressure we’ll see a lot more big plays from him. It’s consistency that I still wonder about.
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I actually think we have the linemen for a 4-3 D, especially since Cal doesn’t have a big ass NT and the Follett/Martin rush LB isn’t there.
We’ll see what Clancy (srsly, how badass is that name for a defensive football coach?) has in mind.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
If no one steps up at LB, especially if Whiteside isn’t eligible and with Martin leaving, I wouldn’t be surprised to see plenty of 4-3. Clancy is really comfortable with running that look. Arguably, it’s a better fit for our personnel…We have more experience on the D line than we do at LB.
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Forgot about Riley.
Um…he’s going to need an impressive fall.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Jul 23, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
CGB rollcall
That town manager in SoCal who was making $800K per year is a UC graduate.
Represent!
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, my MPA is from a much better regarded institution than CSUEB. I should be worth a lot more than $800,000.
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by atomsareenough on Jul 23, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Not me. I went to UC Davis. When I applied for EECS, the reply was an invitation to attend as a Nuclear Engineering student instead. So I took my (lack of) talents elsewhere…
by OaktownAggie on Jul 23, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
HEY YELLOW FEVER
SUMMER SLAM IS COMING TO SHANGHAI!
SERIOUSLY!
AND FOR FREE!
I 100% NEED TO GO
I CAN’T STOP TYPING IN CAPS
egads, even I’d be embarrassed if someone asked me to go to Summer Slam with them. No no no no no no no.
In a related story, I’m torn over whether to go to the WWE’s next event at MSG. I haven’t been to MSG in ten years (which was for a WWE PPV) but I can’t find anyone to go, and I don’t want to drag Ms. YF with me.
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by yellow fever on Jul 24, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey, that’s pretty cool. Where did you find that animated gif? It might be nice to put on the laptop for school presentations.
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I actually stumbled upon the gif, it can be found at http://www.gifbin.com/bin/072010/1278930490_time-lapse-teeth-correction.gif
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NP now go educate those chillins!!!!
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by CruzinBears on Jul 26, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
How is that even possible? I mean, it just boggles my mind how your teeth can slowly move like that, and be reset for life.
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If you apply continuous force to a tooth within the proper range, it triggers a biochemical response that allows movement. It’s probably supposed to be a functional response that allows the teeth to fit together and to continue to chew efficiently as they change/shift with natural wear and aging. We’re designed to eat – so the teeth can shift within a small area to help with mastication.
The real trick is getting them to stay. Depending on the severity, they’re not exactly reset for life. You have to make sure you move the roots (and not just the tops of the teeth), over-correct, and hold them in their new position long enough to settle in. Then, you need to make sure you use the right retention system for a long enough time to keep them from going back. For a case like the one shown above, it would take 2-3 years to do it right, plus another 3 years of night-time retainer wear. I would also place long-term bonded wires on the back of her lower front teeth and upper front teeth because of how badly the teeth were malpositioned. (I can also tell from the pics that the treating doctor didn’t over-correct the roots – so this case is a high risk for relapse. Not kidding, btw. I can see the angles of the teeth. Still a nice result.)
That’s one of the reasons why a lot of the so-called latest and greatest systems are a rip-off. They typically promise faster treatment, fewer extractions, or alternatives to wires and brackets. But, you can’t change the biology. If you don’t plan ahead, the improvement are only temporary. They usually won’t go back all the way, but you can have a surprising amount of shifting in a short time.
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by Kodiak on Jul 25, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Thanks for the info. So I read on wiki that the pressure allows for the bone to re-absorb and then regrow to allow for tooth movement. That’s pretty interesting. I didn’t know that was possible.
By “over-correct”, you mean you have to shift the tooth past where you really want it? So that when it shifts back, it will be in the desired position?
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By "over-correct", you mean you have to shift the tooth past where you really want it? So that when it shifts back, it will be in the desired position?
Yes. Depending on where the tooth is and how it was crooked before, it’s usually a good idea to compensate with a slight over-correction. For a rotation, it means turning the tooth ever-so slightly beyond an ideal correction. For a front-back displacement, it means moving the roots. (which takes more time and is technically very difficult)
If you look at her upper laterals and lower laterals, (2nd teeth from the middle) they were originally blocked backwards in the arch. To give yourself the best chance at keeping them straight, you need to bring the roots forward and over-correct slightly. If you imagine teeth like fenceposts, the first thing that happens when you push on one is that the part (the crown) above ground tips in the direction you want. It’s easy to tip back in the same way unless you also move the part that’s below ground. (the root)
You can see how the root of the upper lateral isn’t as prominent/visible through the gum as the root of the central next to it. That suggests that the crown is tipped forward while the roots is still angled back. This doesn’t affect the esthetics of the final result, but from a stability standpoint that’s the first tooth that’s going to shift back as soon as she forgets to wear her retainer.
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by Kodiak on Jul 26, 2010 3:01 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
i am definitely designed to eat
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by GoldBlooded on Jul 26, 2010 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions
What about if ahem someone ahem had traditional wire/bracket braces as a youngin’. Orthodontist did an amazing job, but that person was couch terribly inconsistent couch at wearing their retainers. What would you do then?!
by OaktownAggie on Jul 26, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions
what’s with all these couches?!
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by GoldBlooded on Jul 26, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Depends on where the teeth are now.
If there are just a few mild rotations, it’s probably something that could be corrected with a set of new retainers that have built-in springs to push the teeth back. On average it’s 3-6 months of consistent wear + adjustments every 3-6 weeks. Just night-time wear will do it…although adding hours during the day speeds up the process. More severe rotations can take longer – in the 6-12 month range.
Anything too severe could be looking at braces again. It depends on your goals. Some adults just want things a little better (not ideal) and will go with retainers anyway because they don’t want to go through braces again. Others do a combo. Since the lower front teeth are usually the worse, it’s not uncommon to have an upper retainer + lower braces.
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What are your thoughts on Invisalign™ for moderate re-correction. Small gap in the front upper and mild to moderate rotation in front lower.
by OaktownAggie on Jul 26, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I have the exact same question too!!! (I forgot to wear retainers and lower level crowding has created a gap in the upper level)
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by CruzinBears on Jul 26, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Invisalign can work for limited corrections. (mild spaces and rotations) However, it is ridiculously over-priced for what it does: limited corrections with poor long-term stability. They use a type of destructive laser imagery to create the trays which are fabricated in Pakistan. Then, they have a lab person (not an orthodontist – usually foreign-trained dentists at best) set it up on the computer. If you’re lucky, the tooth movements are reasonably accurate. If you’re not…I’ve seen some really bad stuff. I’ve seen untrained people create crossbites, or move the teeth too far forward causing severe gum recession.
Because the lab fees are so high, the treatment cost is often as much or greater than I would charge to treat with standard braces. However, the results aren’t even close. (braces >>>>> invisalign) Despite what the ads/commercials may claim, it is very much an “as seen on tv” type of product that only has niche applications. For some people, it’s worth paying 2-3x as much just to be trendy or for the esthetics. The trays themselves are not comfortable, need to be worn 24/7, and depending on the practitioner, may not correct your problem. To compensate for their systemic flaws, they often require lots of enamel removal to create enough space for the teeth to move. (not good for your teeth long-term) And when you’re done, the results aren’t particularly stable. You have to commit yourself to wearing those plastic trays indefinitely and hope that they don’t break or wear out.
As you can tell, I’m not a fan. I was part of the research team that ran the clinical trials on it, so I’ve seen all the original data on what they can and cannot do. I’m certified and have treated cases, but I always felt like a used car salesman having to make excuses for why it wasn’t working, or why it wouldn’t stay. I’m also not a fan of the company – they basically ignored the American Association of Orthodontists and have marketed their product directly to the consumer…Despite the fact that there was no accredited research done showing that their product was safe and effective. As far as I know, the only studies out there are the ones the company paid for. I know for a fact that many of the early ones showing results identical to braces were altered on the computer. (My co-residents and I saw the original data.) It was a huge scandal when the ortho chair who was lecturing how great the product was had to admit that he had been given thousands of shares of stock options. Not exactly the most unbiased clinical trial…But he kept his job and Align agreed to donate hundreds of thousands each year to the school. Hmmm…
My feeling is that for limited treatment, you should pay a lower price. If you’re going to pay 5-6k, then it had better be damn good work that lasts. If you only want limited improvements, then pay 1-3k for a set of metal and acrylic retainers that are proven to work.
Last spring, I treated a dentist who had recently graduated. He was treated for 4 years by one of the inventors of invisalign (same chairman from my residency – lifelong politician, not a great clinician). All he wanted was one lower tooth rotated. Instead, it created a gap between his upper two front teeth and did not fix his lower rotation completely. Within a month, I closed the space and fixed his rotations in time for his wedding using a standard pair of retainers.
Anything that is within the realistic scope of what invisalign can do, retainers can do the same thing for less $$ and often faster/better results. Retainers aren’t going to be any more stable (still limited tooth movement with no root correction), but the price is appropriate. The retainers also tend to last a lot longer because they use stainless steel wires instead of just plastic. And, should you forget to wear them or lose them for a bit, a retainer can often be re-adjusted to fit again. You can’t adjust a pre-molded plastic tray. If they stop fitting, you’re screwed.
The downside for retainers is that you need someone who knows what they’re doing to make them work. Anyone can “do” invisalign because you’re relying on the company’s computer simulations to do your treatment planning and work for you. Personally, I’d rather not put my license and reputation in the hands of someone without orthodontic training. But, a lot of dentists are doing it because it’s the hot/trendy item right now and there’s a market for it.
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by Kodiak on Jul 26, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Before and after of lower crowding treated with a retainer


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by Kodiak on Jul 26, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
what if i havent worn retainers in 8 years and i have them, and just need your brilliant skill to adjust the wires?
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Could work if they still fit. And, it depends on whether it was originally built with enough springs in the right places. Kind of a longshot because of how long it’s been. But, it’s possible.
Best thing to do is drop by with them sometime. If I can make ’em work, then cool. If not, then we can assess the status of your teeth and give a run-down of your options.
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like goldblooded contributing to kod’s party yacht vacation fund?
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Rec’d for well argued and awesome reply. The idea of Invisalign™ is appealing, but I was unaware of any untoward shenanigans. Seriously, also… care to go in on my brilliant idea; Visalign(not yet™)? Think of every time you see someone with “grills” and how the vast majority of the time their teeth are ‘mildly askew.’ What if the “grills” were (somewhat) aligning their teeth the whole time? Brilliant I say! (Now’s where you chime in with why it’s a terrible idea and that’s why you’re the orthodontist.) :-)
by OaktownAggie on Jul 26, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
i’ll chime in for him first:
there is absolutely no chance that this is a bad idea in any way!
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I’m sure there’d be a market for it. :)
There are gold brackets…the problem is that gold is often too soft to transmit the forces you’d want to the roots. The wires would have a little too much wiggle room.
Now, if someone could manufacture a grill that had a stainless steel slot, that could seriously kick *ss. However, the material cost would be a bit of an issue. Maybe if my practice were a little closer to O-town, it would work.
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I think this post deserves a BOOM, ORTHO’d!
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by atomsareenough on Jul 27, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions

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