Golden Nuggets: Pac-10 Expansion Plans to be Finalized within Six Months
by Berkelium97 on Jun 6, 2010 5:00 PM PDT
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PrintPac-10 expansion plans (or a lack thereof) will be solidified by the end of the year. By the end of this week Nebraska and Missouri will state whether they plan to stay in the Big-12 or not. If they leave, the door should be open for several remaining Big-12 teams to join the Pac-10.
In addition to giving Scott the power to negotiate expansion, the conference also has made him the only voice on the matter. A handful of school presidents and chancellors declined comment when asked about the expansion talks as they left the final day of meetings at the Westin St. Francis hotel.
Washington president Mark Emmert, who will take over as the next chief executive of the NCAA in November, described the discussions as "Good. Good, but complicated."
Because the Pac-10 has to work out individual agre ements with each of the schools involved and has to overcome major logistical issues, including complex travel scenarios, it's hard to imagine anything getting done in a matter of days. Scott said it's possible the expansion announcement could come as early as July 27, the first day of the Pac-10 football media days in New York. The new schools wouldn't join the Pac-10 until the 2012-2013 school year, Scott said.
The Pac-10 begins negotiating its new TV agreement at the end of this year and Scott said he needs to know the makeup of his conference before he sits down with TV executives. There are reports that expansion could be worth as much as $20 million per school. Scott hired the Creative Artists Agency to help negotiate the conference's next media deal.
One unnamed Big 12 school administrator told The American-Statesman of Austin, "I've talked to the Pac-10. There is an invitation. When it comes, it'll come fast."
Said Scott: "We absolutely could move more quickly if we needed to, but we're under no pressure to decide anything earlier than the end of the year."
After the jump Cal moves up in the Director's Cup standings, UC Davis becomes an even less intimidating opponent, men's crew captures the IRA National Championship, rugby finishes second in the CCI Championship, and more.
After water polo finished third in the nation, Cal has moved up to 11th in the Director's Cup standings. Cal has finished in the top ten four years in a row. This year's final standings will be announced July 1st.
Cal Football
- Jahvid Best is among three NFL rookies Mel Kiper says will immediately have an impact on their teams' offense.
- Ted Miller calls Mike Mohamed Cal's most irreplaceable player.
- Senior quarterback Greg Denham has quit the UC Davis team. He has decided to pursue a career in ministry.
- Men's crew captured the IRA National Championship by defeating no. 1 Washington in the varsity 8+.
- Rugby opened Pool A play with a 42-0 shutout against Harvard. Dartmouth was the next victim and was shut out 29-0. Cal shut out Tennessee and Arizona to advance to the CCI Championship Game, where they lost their first match in over a year as they fell to Utah 31-26 following a sudden-death overtime.
- Men's golf finished the season by finishing 23rd at the NCAA Championships.
- After coming back from 6-1 and 8-6 deficits, baseball lost 9-8 after Oral Roberts homered in the bottom of the ninth inning.
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" I think we’re going to be the first collegiate conference to have an international marketing plan."
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by Maisbikkja on Jun 6, 2010 6:31 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Classic Longhorn Post
So apparently, Baylor is pissed off about being left out, and is going to do everything it can to shove Colorado out of the picture and take that spot. Word has gotten to this gentleman called HookEmHorns, who posts on shaggybevo.com:
“First time poster.. I usually just lurk but this Baylor bullshit just got me so fucking pissed off I have to go somewhere to vent and my girlfriend and her 7 year old son don’t give a shit about conference expansion..
What the fuck does this piece of trash Texas Legislature continue to make us carry that fuck off school in WACO texas.. We carried their fucking asses for 15 years, isn’t that enough? Ann Richards kicked the bucket, we don’t owe them shit.. They bring nothing to the Pac 10, they bring no fan interest to the conference and they fucking suck donkey balls in football for 15 years.. Fuck them, they deserve to go play in the fucking Sun Belt in their high school bullshit stadium.
And this fucking dip-shit source who tried to shit on Colorado is a fucking clown.. Yeah what a surprise, people aren’t interested in watching CU Football right now because they SUCK, their fans have seen success before and know what success looks like and would rather go watch paint dry than see them play because their fucking coach is a fucking clown who should be smoking blunts with the Art majors on the Boulder campus instead of coaching football. But you know what, bad hires happen.. We sucked before Mack, I remember times where we didn’t even sell out nonconference games during the early (and pre)Mackovic years. OU hired that fat ass John Blake. You know sometimes programs hire bad coaches and they suck and apathy sets in within the fan base.. It doesn’t mean they’ll suck forever.. I didn’t look it up but I can almost guarantee CU is in the Top 25 in football victories, it has had much more success than Baylor has ever had in football, has won a national championship and a Heisman winner. Its not OU, its not Texas, I get that.. But its definitely fucking better than fucking baylor.. Fuck, its better than Okie State and Texas Tech too. Fuck I bet I could make a case its better than fucking aggy bullshit but that’s beside the point.
Fuck this bullshit.. Fuck Baylor.. Fuck them in the mother fucking ass.. Pac 10 should invite CU tomorrow and have them accept and then we can go tell Baylor to FUCK OFF in the fucking Sun Belt where they fucking belong while we go to the Pac 10 with OU and 3 others who aren’t FUCKING BAYLOR.. And the 15 Baylor grad legislators that are threatening to hold this Pac 16 up, BLOW ME.. "
by ginfizzbear on Jun 6, 2010 9:58 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
That board is amazing. I just checked out that board, and the profanity is off the wall. There’s actually some good entertainment just from reading that thread.
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by CaliforniaEternal on Jun 7, 2010 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions
The more I read about football in Texas the more I realize the UT folks and Texas Tech folks really don’t give a rats butt about A&M. if they end up in the SEC this may all still work out anyways. Although I am pretty sure that Baylor (as a non-secular school) will never receive an invite to the Pac-10. And that would certainly never happen over CU (16th largest TV market in the nation===$$$$$$$$. Baylor=no cents/sense).
Football is God in Texas, no legislators can stop the momentum of fans. If Nebraska & Mizzou bolt the fans will want what is best for their team in terms of competition, they will mow down any opposition. The Pac-10 is doing a BANG UP JOB of playing it’s hand. VERY unusual given the last ohhh…50 years. What a difference good leadership makes.
by PlayClassyBears on Jun 6, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions
must be this talking about this news
‘’do you think we’re going to allow a school from outside the state of Texas to replace one of our schools in the Big 12 South? I don’t think so. We’re already at work on this," the site quoted a a high-ranking member of the Texas Legislature as saying
If I had made a post with half as much anger I would get blasted to high hell. Sigh…
In other words, Go Bears!
The difference is that he’s angry abotu something legitimately related to sports. Not like your usual rants about how people don’t let you cut into traffic at the last second.
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I find the crazy Texas guy’s rant funny in a ’I’m laughing at a crazy person’ kind of way. I wouldn’t want to read that kind of stuff from Cal fans on CGB on a frequent basis.
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
The man has a point.
I mean, you guys do remember that Tedford’s first game and win was against Baylor, and we did kill them 70-22.
And while Cal went on to have moderate to great success, AFAIK Baylor faded into obscurity.
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by atomsareenough on Jun 7, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
It all comes down to Notre Dame--Oh the Irony
Notre Dame I have always felt to be the bane of everyone else in CFB’s existence. They steal all the money for TV, hold up various positive moves forward because of their independent status, somehow get invited to the BCS time and time again inspite of sucking, get amazing 5 star recruits (and subsequently ruin them), and manage to make themselves relevant by being irrelevant.
For a few years now I’ve had conversations with friends about how to create a fair playoff system. But it always comes down to Notre Damn screwing it up somehow. Well now its their turn.
Notre Damn is in a LOSE-LOSE position here. They go to the Big-Ten and they lose their independent status and even though they make good money they will probably lose what makes them so special—making many CFB fans very happy. If However they don’t go…then it causes a CATACLYSMIC chain reaction that will forever alter football:
Without ND the Big-Ten goes for multiple schools (which most scenarios include Nebraska & Missouri), which for the most part will mean the end of the Big-12. Even if the Pac-10 doesn’t get the Texas schools there WILL BE A FEEDING FRENZY. And realignment will happen. It is most likely that 14-16 team super conferences will be formed.
The irony here is that in such a scenario ND may end up getting left out in the cold if it doesn’t join a super-conference. Which would basically crush any hope of remaining relevant. Scheduling their rivals would become next to impossible and the natural progression from super conferences to 4 seed playoffs could effectively shut ND out of a national championship picture in the long-run.
Of course ND could react to the creation of super-conferences and end up joining an expanded Big-11+5 or ACC/big East conglemorate (which of course would mean less money and maybe slightly more relevancy).
But the point here is that no matter ND is screwed. The question is do they choose their own demise now or later and do they change the face of College Football in the process.
by PlayClassyBears on Jun 6, 2010 10:06 PM PDT reply actions
This is the most intriguing part to me of the ESPN article:
The Big 12 reportedly gave Missouri and Nebraska an ultimatum of Friday to decide if they will remain in the Big 12.
So, we could find out this Friday what is happening. If Missouri and Nebraska don’t commit to the BigXII, then it looks like the expansion will happen. The ESPN guy in the video on that particular story, feels that it is likely the expansion will end up happening. Who knows?
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What happens to the Big-12 leftovers?
If Baylor, KU, KSU, & ISU knew what was best for them they would poach some of the better MWC/WAC/C-USA teams to reform the Big-12. Do you guys think a conference with this make up of teams could survive/draw interest? (keep in mind both TV markets and competitiveness)
Boise State 14-0
BYU (SLC) 11-2
Utah (SLC) 10-3
TCU (Dallas, Texas) 12-1
ISU 7-6
KU (Kansas City) 5-7
KSU 6-6
Baylor (Texas-Waco) 4-8
Houston/SMU (to solidify the Texas market) 10-4/8-5
Nevada (Las Vegas) 8-5
Colorado State (Denver market) 3-9
And another team to balance the division geographically (like Air Force or SMU/Houston)
Lot of winning teams on this list with a very sizable population dynamic. I think a reactionary Big-12 would need to consolidate with very competitive teams (BYU, BSU, TCU) as well as teams that bring large markets to bear (CSU, Nevada)
by PlayClassyBears on Jun 6, 2010 10:34 PM PDT reply actions
I was reading the columns on the Dallas Morning News site, and this whole Baylor thing is just posturing by some Baylor supporters (namely politicians from Waco) that don’t want the school to be left behind. There is no way the Texas state government would block any conference realignment just because Baylor isn’t included. Ann Richards isn’t governor and frankly, no one gives a crap about them. It’s just a desperate attempt by Baylor to try and scare the Pac 10 and Larry Scott isn’t a moron like Tom Hansen.
At first I was upset that there is a push by Baylor people to substitute themselves for Colorado, but it really doesn’t matter for the west coast teams. Except for the fact that there is room for only one Bear team in our conference. It’s bad enough that ucla ripped off our mascot, along with everything else in their repertoire.
For us though, it hardly matters who the 6th team to be invited is because we would only play them every four years. In fact, Baylor would be a far easier opponent than Colorado. It all comes down to who UT wants to have in their division. Maybe they prefer Baylor since the travel is easier than Colorado.
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by CaliforniaEternal on Jun 7, 2010 12:33 AM PDT reply actions
This expansion is going to happen unless the Big 12 finds a way to renegotiate their TV contract.
The new Pac-10 TV contract will go into effect for the 2012-2013 season. The Big 12 contract with ESPN will be renegotiated for 2016-2017. There’s no way the Big 12 schools can leave that much revenue on the table for four years. Especially the candidates for the Big 10 like Nebraska and Missouri who are already suffering from unequal revenue distribution. Although now, I’m starting to think the Big 10 might want the Big 12 to remain intact to prevent a more powerful competitor from emerging. So they may hold off on inviting any Big 12 teams and instead focus on the east coast and Notre Dame.
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by CaliforniaEternal on Jun 7, 2010 1:04 AM PDT reply actions
Well, the problem that I am aware of is that Texas is trying to create its own TV channel. If this BigPac is created, thats out the window. So, if they want this TV channel all to themselves (Texas, that is), they might decide not to go through with it. I have no idea whats the situation on the Texas TV channel negotiations, so I cant tell whether itd stop realignment. We’ll see.
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