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2010 World Cup Open Thread: Round of 16

Week 2 discussion, Week 1 discussion

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Sat 6/26 9:30 a.m. ESPN/ESPN360.com Uruguay vs. South Korea   Port Elizabeth 49
2 p.m. ABC United States vs. Ghana   Rustenburg 50
Sun 6/27 9:30 a.m. ESPN/ESPN360.com Germany vs. England   Bloemfontein 51
2 p.m. ABC Argentina vs. Mexico   Johannesburg 52
Mon 6/28 9:30 a.m. ESPN/ESPN360.com Netherlands vs. Slovakia   Durban 53
2 p.m. ESPN/ESPN360.com Brazil vs. Chile   Johannesburg 54
Tue 6/29 9:30 a.m. ESPN/ESPN360.com Paraguay vs. Japan   Pretoria 55
2 p.m. ESPN/ESPN360.com Spain vs. Portugal   Cape Town 56


Here are your bracket leaders! Click on their names to view their brackets!

Tied for 1st with 21: YleeXOtee, LordKdV, iVinshe, Kodiak, Fire Starkey

Tied for 6th with 20: UNITED STATES OF CAL (Hydrotech I believe), McAdams711, BurntRaisin, Cal Pete's Rossoblu (California Pete), Einigkeit Recht Freiheit, drub1112, The Valiant Carpetbaggers, o====<I BBBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ (Berkelium), The Jahvidtician (me! My elite eight is still intact, except not in the order I thought it would be! Which means I'm probably screwed the further I go along!)

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United States of Cal = me

Go Bears… and Go America!

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by Thoroughbred on Jun 25, 2010 2:15 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

GO AMERICA! At this point, I wish I knew anything about Ghana, so I could make fun of them for whatever it is that they are.

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by TwistNHook on Jun 25, 2010 2:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Half the country is named “Prince”.

"UC Davis??? hahahahaha" - Aaron Rodgers

by atomsareenough on Jun 25, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you didn't catch this on the TV

He was the most epic fan ever. SMOKING CAULDRON HAT

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by Thoroughbred on Jun 25, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brolific

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by Thoroughbred on Jun 25, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can make fun of Michael Essien for horrible injury luck? On second thought, that may be bad karma

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by norcalnick on Jun 25, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

They beat us in ’06…when Onyewu allegedly fouled some fucker…that fucker ended up winnng the game on a PK

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by carp on Jun 25, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoa.

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by Thoroughbred on Jun 25, 2010 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Twas a German ref who called the foul…apparently he was still bitter over dubya dubya II

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by carp on Jun 25, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

None of these are overarching cultural stereotypes that I can make fun of.

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by TwistNHook on Jun 25, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did my bracket in like 5 seconds…

and it’s about to die.

by iVinshe on Jun 25, 2010 3:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Mine’s already dead… I did a round of 16 bracket and decided to go with hope rather than any kind of data.

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Jun 25, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure you can pick Scotland to win it all anymore.

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by TwistNHook on Jun 25, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

at least France crapped out.

and it was a national emergency. Prime Minister meeting with the team to find out WTF.

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Jun 25, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

They don’t need a meeting: old players, crap coach, the end. There, I provided it for nothing.

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Jun 25, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s my crayon fantasy bracket.

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Jun 25, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ian Darke to call US-Ghana

Awesome. He’s my new homeboy.

Martin Tyler gets the plum matches (Spain-Portugal & England-Germany).

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jun 25, 2010 4:56 PM PDT reply actions  

dude’s enjoyable to listen too

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by carp on Jun 25, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

They’re both good. I think ESPN did a really good job with the commentary teams that they’ve put together, with one glaring exception: Alexei Lalas given “serious analyst” positions and not Julie Foudy.

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Jun 25, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am just excited to see what Lalas’ real face actually looks like. I always thought he was a ginger wookie in a US jersey.

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by TwistNHook on Jun 25, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chewbacca had better positional sense.

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Jun 25, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jun 25, 2010 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

alexei is such a sellout, maaaan

Samuels said. "That last-minute shot at halftime sums it up. Shooting off one leg? C'mon, man."

by ikoolykedat on Jun 25, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

No perfect brackets left at ESPN. 6 brackets only missed one team out of the 16 left.

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by norcalnick on Jun 25, 2010 6:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m tied for 1st? How the heck did that happen? I think I let my kid pick the bracket…

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by Kodiak on Jun 25, 2010 6:28 PM PDT reply actions  

You are raising a genius.

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by atomsareenough on Jun 25, 2010 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

FUCK YOU GHANA AND THE ZEBRA YOU RODE IN ON

(my apologies, just venting in preparation for tomorrow)

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by carp on Jun 25, 2010 9:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Please tell me you’ve watched all the games and aren’t just here to jinx us.

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by Thoroughbred on Jun 25, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

i’ve showed up late to work to not miss a minute of the madness

i even did a head first slide on the carpet after Donavan’s (who I still think is the A-rod of soccer) goal. Carpet burn FTW.

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by carp on Jun 25, 2010 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

You think Donavan is juicing and fucking Kate Winslet (most likely at the same time)?:???

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by TwistNHook on Jun 25, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s def. not juicing…although he might be taking some type of orthotricycline.

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by carp on Jun 25, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

What?

ARod is shagging Kate Winslet?!? Seriously? That is the weirdest match-up on earth.

If you really meant Kate Hudson I am gonna be so sad.

by Scootie on Jun 25, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever. Some Kate, somewhere.

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by TwistNHook on Jun 25, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

who I still think is the A-rod of soccer

You’ve lost me Carp

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by norcalnick on Jun 25, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know…hard to rip an as-of-this-minute American hero, huh? On one hand, flag me. On the other, he makes David Beckham look like a Hell’s Angel.

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by carp on Jun 25, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

say what you want. the great thing about this squad is that you can tell all the guys are having fun playing with each other and representing the US — no egos getting in the way, very spirited. go to ussoccer.com and you can see a bunch of interiews. everyone’s just down to earth. it’s really a tight-knit group. one of the best examples “team chemistry” i’ve ever seen.

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by Thoroughbred on Jun 25, 2010 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

well said

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
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by carp on Jun 25, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

…He’s mild mannered and likeable?

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by atomsareenough on Jun 25, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously, I have no idea where Carp is getting this impression of Donovan from.

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by norcalnick on Jun 25, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

FUCK YOU, GHANA, I’M NOT GIVING MILLIONS TO YOUR DEPOSED PRINCE! Oh, wait, wrong African country.

FUCK YOU, GHANA, HOW DARE YOU TAKE MANUTE BOL FROM US! Oh wait, again, wrong African country.

FUCK YOU, GHANA, THERE’S NO WAY JAMES EARL JONES SHOULD BE YOUR KING! Oh wait, that’s a fictional African country.

Ok, guys, little help.

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by TwistNHook on Jun 25, 2010 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I heard Ghana stole all of the jerseys from the North Korean contingent and set them on fire… so fans couldn’t acquire them.

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by Thoroughbred on Jun 25, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I WILL CRUSH THEM WHERE THEY STAND!

Tomorrow will be the worst day in the history of Ghana. It’ll make the Third Ashanti-British War seem more like the Second Ashanti-British!

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by TwistNHook on Jun 25, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jun 25, 2010 9:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I hope nobody hits the broad side of THAT barn!

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by atomsareenough on Jun 25, 2010 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I need something obnoxiously Ammurrican for tomorrow’s game. I’m thinking American flag bikini t-shirt. Thoughts?

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by TwistNHook on Jun 25, 2010 9:36 PM PDT reply actions  

let’s get american flag full-out back-tat’s.

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by carp on Jun 25, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

To match the American flag full-out front-tat I already have?

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by TwistNHook on Jun 25, 2010 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes. And the stripes on your penis shaft and 50 stars on your waxed balls.

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by carp on Jun 25, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can only fit 38 stars there. :(

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by TwistNHook on Jun 25, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that covers teh US history just after the Louisianna Purchase. We really fucked the French!!!

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by carp on Jun 25, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I went for a Lion Rampant tattoo in the same place but it’s more of an aggravated lynx. Sads.

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by DC Trojan on Jun 25, 2010 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jay Demerit blue jersey, black shorts, US Soccer scarf, US flag as a cape.

by LeonPowe on Jun 25, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me hopes that Jack Clark is summoned for pre-game, half-time, post-game, and practice speeches. Should folks be coming up lame (ONYEWU!!!111), then he’s going to have to kill a brotha.

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by carp on Jun 25, 2010 9:44 PM PDT reply actions  

so many badass photos of Clark

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by carp on Jun 25, 2010 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he should play. Fuck coaching!

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by TwistNHook on Jun 25, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right? What he lacks in speed/strength/stamina he makes up for in ball size and heart.

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by carp on Jun 25, 2010 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

And SCIENCE!

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by Thoroughbred on Jun 25, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fox News is reporting that Ghana may or may not be haroboring Al Qaeda.

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by carp on Jun 25, 2010 9:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Fox News is reporting that AMMURRICA! FUCK YEAH!

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by TwistNHook on Jun 25, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

They’re harrowing and boring Al Qaeda at the same time? What wonderful allies!

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by norcalnick on Jun 25, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's hoping this helps

GOAH!
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by carp on Jun 25, 2010 10:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Donavan’s shot heard ’round the world.

The Graduate at Davis has a nice clip if I may say so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbn3rOPmR9w&feature=youtu.be

If you don’t get goose bumps, you might be dead.

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by carp on Jun 25, 2010 10:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice compilation of reaction shots… but to be fair, it’s not “the world’s reaction”, it’s “Americans’ reaction”.

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by atomsareenough on Jun 25, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I gotta get up early for a haircut tomorrow, but I’ll bet that my barbershop will have this game on the TV.

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by Swamphunter on Jun 26, 2010 12:07 AM PDT reply actions  

“This” being the US-Uruguay game. My bad.

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by Swamphunter on Jun 26, 2010 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

US – Ghana. Don’t welcome bad juju by presuming we’re through.

by LeonPowe on Jun 26, 2010 3:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

So are people here pulling for S. Korea or Uruguay?

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by norcalnick on Jun 26, 2010 6:54 AM PDT reply actions  

If I don’t say S. Korea, one of my best friends from Cal will disown me.

Besides, if they win, it probably increases the chance that ol’ Kim Jung Il will do something crazy(er) out of envy.

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by Kodiak on Jun 26, 2010 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

How is it that only Asian counties know how to take free kicks?

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by norcalnick on Jun 26, 2010 7:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Outsourcing?

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by Kodiak on Jun 26, 2010 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

is Irvine an Asian county?

Samuels said. "That last-minute shot at halftime sums it up. Shooting off one leg? C'mon, man."

by ikoolykedat on Jun 26, 2010 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Close.

"UC Davis??? hahahahaha" - Aaron Rodgers

by atomsareenough on Jun 26, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

lol

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by carp on Jun 26, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was. . . interesting defending by South Korea there.

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by norcalnick on Jun 26, 2010 7:09 AM PDT reply actions  

I think they’ve been stealing secrets from the US early-game defensive playbook.

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by Kodiak on Jun 26, 2010 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Doh.

I don’t know how that cross made it all the way over there. Perfect pass or D fell asleep?

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by Kodiak on Jun 26, 2010 7:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Looked like a combo. If defenders had chased it Suazo still might’ve gotten to if first. But at least they might’ve had a chance or at least hurried a shot with a difficult angle.

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by norcalnick on Jun 26, 2010 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. Didn’t look offsides to me.

I’ve watched the Uruguay defender flop twice now…So, it’s on. I really want them to lose.

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by Kodiak on Jun 26, 2010 7:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Ha! Karma’s a b!tch. The flopper who outweighs the SK striker by at least 20 lbs, and is approx 4" taller, gets beaten for a header into GOOOOOOOOOAAAAALLL!

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by Kodiak on Jun 26, 2010 8:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Ohhhhhhhhhh noooo, so close

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by atomsareenough on Jun 26, 2010 8:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Great, great pass…Almost another Geren goal.

Sigh. Can’t deny that Suarez’ goal was just a perfect shot.

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by Kodiak on Jun 26, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Feel bad for the Koreans, though. They seemed to be playing well.

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by atomsareenough on Jun 26, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really tough to win when you concede first. A lesson I hope the US remembers.

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by norcalnick on Jun 26, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. This was one of the better games I’ve seen. Crisp passing, several good runs, lots of counter-attacks.

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by Kodiak on Jun 26, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed. It was like a curveball!

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by TwistNHook on Jun 26, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

What a goal by Suarez. You could do a physics experiment on that ball.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jun 26, 2010 10:55 AM PDT reply actions  

WOW

England was robbed like FUCK

And of course, it would’ve been prevented if you just had refs at the goal.

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by Thoroughbred on Jun 27, 2010 7:54 AM PDT reply actions  

I thought our back line was slow and full of holes, now that I’m watching England, we look like the equivalent of Italy 1990

by LeonPowe on Jun 27, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, at least we’re not England

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by norcalnick on Jun 27, 2010 8:27 AM PDT reply actions  

That’s true across the board.

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by atomsareenough on Jun 27, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, the refs screwed them! If it wasnt for the meddling fo those refs, they would have lost only 4-2!

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by TwistNHook on Jun 27, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good thing Germany tacked on a few extra just to avoid the controversy. Though it would be nice if it helped lead to goal-line review technology

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by norcalnick on Jun 27, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bad way to look at it

It would’ve been 2-2 and both teams would’ve played much tighter on defense. England got exposed trying to get goals the more they brought men up front.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jun 27, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Both teams had to win. England are slow on defense. They would have got carved open at some point, and they sure as shit couldn’t score in the second half.

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by DC Trojan on Jun 27, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe if it had happend really late int eh game. But there was still like 1.5 halves left to go, so both teams had plenty of time to play their games.

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by TwistNHook on Jun 27, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh look, another poor officiating decision

Yeah, DC Trojan, this no technology business is working great for the game.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jun 27, 2010 11:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah because tech always gets it right in American football.

Look, just leave the game the way it is. I hate the idea of instant replay and goal line cameras and more refs on the field for soccer/football. Quit trying to change the game.

by LeonPowe on Jun 27, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

HOW DARE THEY TRY TO CORRECT CLEAR AND EGREGIOUS ERRORS!

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by TwistNHook on Jun 27, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

There doesn’t seem to be much logic behind this line of thinking except “it’s always been this way, therefore it should always be this way.”

All I’m saying is there are plenty of obvious errors that can be rectified (offsides that leads to goal, whether the ball crosses the goal, etc.). These decisions could’ve been reversed in thirty seconds or less. If you don’t want the pitch disturbed, get an extra judge off the field two minutes to reviews these decisions with replay, let the game keep on going in the meantime, then when he comes to a decison, runs over to confer with the offical ref, and blam, official decision.

It makes a mockery of the sport that these decisions are allowed to stand. This is the fifth or sixth game that’s been altered or swung by referees not doing their job properly.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jun 27, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since you decided to call me out, I’m going to be blunt: get a fucking grip and stop trying to change a game you’ve apparently only just started watching, and in the meantime don’t try and make me into FIFA.

I would be perfectly happy to see goal-line technology put into place that would have prevented what happened to England, because goals are the fundamental point in single-elimination rounds. But this is not a stop-start game. It just isn’t. Trying to import that kind of video-review thinking from a stop-start game is to completely miss the point about what soccer is.

Is that essentialist? Yes, I suppose it is. But it’s not the product of a society that thinks you can litigate your way to the best result. It’s not a game designed to be controlled off the field. It’s a game to be played on the field, and mistakes happen. Sometimes they are egregious. But the sport seems to withstand it anyway – I mean christ almighty, Maradona’s hand of god goal puts any of the stuff that’s happened in South Africa in the shade, but it doesn’t seem to have ruined world soccer.

If you really wanted me to take this seriously then you’d suggest something that doesn’t tinker with the essential movement of the game.

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by DC Trojan on Jun 27, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

HOW DARE THEY TRY TO CORRECT CLEAR AND EGREGIOUS ERRORS!

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by TwistNHook on Jun 27, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Goal-line technology – or even the additional officials used in the 09 – 10 Europa Cup – would have prevented that without replays.

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by DC Trojan on Jun 27, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, it sounds like we are in agreement. Lets use goal-line technology or even additional officials.

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by TwistNHook on Jun 27, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

As long as there’s no video replay involved, sure.

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by DC Trojan on Jun 27, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

As long as we get to the same end, I don’t much care about the route.

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by TwistNHook on Jun 27, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why is video replay such a big deal? I mean, look, I understand that there’s always going to be a human element. Some calls, like for example, is this a foul, or should this player get a yellow card or red card, or what have you, are inherently going to be a judgment call. But for a fundamental question like “is this a legit goal or not?”, that’s a black-and-white issue, so why on earth wouldn’t you want to get those calls right as much as possible, if you care at all about the fairness of the game?

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by atomsareenough on Jun 28, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because you don’t need video replay for that. And once you open the door, you’re just shifting the locus of error and creating further room for appeals of mistakes etc. If I hadn’t seen the NFL / college start to incorporate challenges / challenges to the challenges / mandatory reviews, etc., I would be more sanguine about this.

Plus, while it may not be sustainable, part of the charm of soccer as far as I am concerned is that it is played and refereed to the same rules and with the same capabilities everywhere. Maybe it’s time for FIFA et al to admit that there are haves and have-nots, and the have-nots don’t merit technology-based monitoring, but that to me is just sad.

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by DC Trojan on Jun 28, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, high school football doesn’t have replay, I don’t think. I bet non-division-I college football doesn’t have replay either. I don’t see what the problem would be if they made sure that all the official FIFA-sanctioned games had some limited replay, or maybe at the very least, an official in the booth who could call the field ref and tell him if he missed a call. I mean, for example, in the Mexico-Argentina game, the ref conferred with the lineman for like 2 minutes (and still got it wrong), and nobody complains about those types of interruptions to the flow of the game.

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by atomsareenough on Jun 28, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

The element of farce at the Argentina game was that the referee and the linesman aren’t supposed to refer to the replay on the screen that everyone else was freaking out about. That was one of the oddities of Zidane getting sent off in the last world cup – the fourth official only saw the replay on the stadium screen rather than seeing it live.

If it’s going to be someone additional they need to be on the field, on the line. All that you get from someone in the booth is another angle to be wrong from. Put a linesman to watch for offside and someone to watch for goals, and you’ve at least split the duties in a plausible fashion.

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by DC Trojan on Jun 28, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

With all the flopping and rolling around we see at the end of games, there’s plenty of stopping and starting going on. I hope you don’t believe this is part of the essence of the game too.

In any case, I’m fine with your suggestions about goal-line technology, simply because it’s necessary. I still believe there should be replays on controversial goal/non-goal calls if it won’t be implemented—an extra two minutes of stoppage time won’t kill anyone, and I very much doubt the players would object.

Of course FIFA will just obstruct the process for who knows how long.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jun 27, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m still pissed about the Ghana player feigning injury for five minutes in OT and us only getting three minutes of stoppage time.

What’s wrong with one challenge flag per game?

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by Rishi on Jun 28, 2010 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree. Or red cards for “diving.”

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 29, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

They can already get a yellow card. If you introduced a red, most games in Italy, Brazil, Spain, Argentina, etc., would end with the goal keepers punting the ball at one another.

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by DC Trojan on Jun 29, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know, I think it would result in reserves playing soccer while the A teams sit out for a game or to and learn to be men.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 29, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

[facepalm]

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Jun 29, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

see if a ref had seen you grab your face he’d have given me a yellow!

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 29, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t do the barrel roll though! Must try harder next time.

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by DC Trojan on Jun 29, 2010 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I believe the sport you’re looking for is football.

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by DC Trojan on Jun 29, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course it’s part of the game. Maybe not a desirable part of the game, but part of the game nonetheless.

What I would like to hear is where a proposal for video replay stops, and how it’s actually a guarantee that a better decision would be made. If you’re going to institute a review, will there be an on-the-spot right of appeal? Because, for instance, the US’s non-third-goal was kind of a bullshit call but it was defensible within the rules of the game. Slovenia would have been pretty pissed if that call had been overturned, and it wouldn’t have added a goal anyway. But the players would have objected.

And when you can take games wherein there are contentious calls – and I’m not talking about howlers like yesterday – wherein analysts on television can’t agree on what happened, then how is that going to help a fourth or fifth official at the game?

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by DC Trojan on Jun 28, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

So if I understand you correctly, DC, it is your view that games should be decided by the officials instead of by what the players do on the field.

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by CalBear81 on Jun 29, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, that is not my view. My view is that mistakes by the official are inevitable, and any supposed reform that buggers up the flow of the game solely to relocate the locus of officials’ errors is not an improvement.

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by DC Trojan on Jun 29, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew you would take the bait, but I didn’t think it would be so quick!

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by CalBear81 on Jun 29, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Purely by coincidence. I am bored of editing the technical proposal that I need to finish shortly.

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by DC Trojan on Jun 29, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d kind of agree, but I think there should be a much, much, much broader range of things which are NOT fouls. This could easily be rectified by having more refs. Then players can’t fake getting sucker punched and elbowed every time there’s a challenge because while they might be able to fool one guy looking the other way, they won’t fool three.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 29, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even more refs is bad?!

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by Rishi on Jun 28, 2010 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

On the field, yes. Stationed at the goals, maybe not.

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by DC Trojan on Jun 28, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think we’re discussing primary goal line refs, nah?

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by Rishi on Jun 28, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you and I are.

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by DC Trojan on Jun 28, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

In fact, if you ask players who bridged the 2-to-3 NBA ref gap, they’ll tell you it was a better reffed game with two. Sure, 3 refs see more calls, but you’ll NEVER catch every violation (nor would you want to – since there’s fouls on every possession, and traveling on every third) – what is more important for officiating is maintaining a flow of play and consistent standards for degrees of fouls.

Anyways – quit trying to change football.

by LeonPowe on Jun 28, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

But aren’t we just adding another set of eyes at the goal to, you know, see if the ball went beyond the line?

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by Rishi on Jun 28, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm. Never thought of it that way, especially from the basketball angle.

Still, basketball is relatively different from soccer. One score can easily be made up over the course of the game. Goals happen only so often.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jun 28, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Pac-10 refs were the most clueless, myopic group in the world…until now.

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by Kodiak on Jun 27, 2010 11:58 AM PDT reply actions  

It will be a shame if FIFA does not institute an instant replay before World Cup 2014.

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by Berkelium97 on Jun 27, 2010 12:00 PM PDT reply actions  

both of those would’ve just been prevented by a g’damn ref at the goal even!

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by Thoroughbred on Jun 27, 2010 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mexico’s defense…..what the hell.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jun 27, 2010 12:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Tevez’s second goal made me say “OH SHNAP” out load

Samuels said. "That last-minute shot at halftime sums it up. Shooting off one leg? C'mon, man."

by ikoolykedat on Jun 27, 2010 12:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Brilliant strike

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by atomsareenough on Jun 27, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watching how deftly Germany, Argentina, and now Mexico’s strikers finish around the goal makes me jealous.

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by Kodiak on Jun 27, 2010 1:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Wonder what our team would’ve been like with Charlie Davies.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jun 27, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

hitting goalposts even quicker than we do now?

Samuels said. "That last-minute shot at halftime sums it up. Shooting off one leg? C'mon, man."

by ikoolykedat on Jun 27, 2010 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

take that, GOALPOST!

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by TwistNHook on Jun 27, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watching Argentina score their 2nd goal because of one of the most horrible giveaways by a defender you’ll ever see makes me jealous. Why couldn’t Ghana do that?!?

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by norcalnick on Jun 27, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because the ref hadn’t unfairly allowed a goal by us beforehand to put them into a daze?

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by atomsareenough on Jun 27, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would also have been a nice gift to receive!

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by norcalnick on Jun 27, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, goals happen. It’s their job to stay focused.

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by DC Trojan on Jun 27, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

They happen infrequently. And while yes, you shouldn’t lose your resolve, it DOES affect a team’s strategy if they are playing ahead or playing from behind, and considering how tough it is to score, if you feel like you’re down a goal because the ref screwed you over, even though you should shrug it off, it can get in your head a little, that’s human nature.

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by atomsareenough on Jun 28, 2010 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Going back to England – Germany for a moment, England wouldn’t have been able to change strategy until they were at least a goal up. They were playing high up the pitch to try and force the issue – and Low had counted on that, which is why the Germans were playing well back and counter-attacking the way that they did. In other words, they were counting on England to try to win. So it wouldn’t really have made that much difference in terms of England’s vulnerability except for extending the potential amount of time before they would have a chance to go ahead.

As for Mexico… well, that could be true. Or that defender might just have had an unfortunately timed brain fart, with an Argentinian just waiting to capitalize.

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by DC Trojan on Jun 28, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t able to watch the England-Germany game, so I’ll defer to you and your superior soccer knowledge, but I will suggest that perhaps England might not have been so aggressive and provided Germany with as many counter-attacking opportunities if it were 2-2 or even 3-2 rather than 2-1 and then 3-1.

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by atomsareenough on Jun 28, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not that I’m sad about England losing :)

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by atomsareenough on Jun 28, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s perfectly fair, but England really are a bunch of slow numpties, they could have contrived to lose that game even from being ahead. I mean, they couldn’t finish off the US or Algeria, for heaven’s sake, despite starting with a goal advantage in the first case and… I don’t really know what to say about the second case.

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Jun 28, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

GHANA
Couldn’t you have left well enough alone, Ghana? The Black Stars were the cinderellas of the last World Cup when they snuck into the second round, but you just had to come back for a second shot, didn’t you? Look, Ghana, everyone loves an underdog story, but nobody wants to see the sequel. There’s a reason nobody bought our screenplay for Hoosiers 2: The Re-Hoosiering. A little friendly advice: skip the World Cup and focus on more pressing problems, like redesigning your flag. It looks like a drunk baby designed it on Mario Paint.

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Because bitterness never ends.

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by Rishi on Jun 28, 2010 8:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Dutch-Brazil?

Looking like it. Niiiiice.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jun 28, 2010 12:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I would've preferred Chile

It’d be nice to have at least one knock-out phase upset at some point

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by norcalnick on Jun 28, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Werent we that upset you so greatly desired?

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by TwistNHook on Jun 28, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

You mean Ghana beating the USA? Nah, that game was a coin flip (or perhaps Ghana should have been favored since the home crowd were probably pulling for them)

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by norcalnick on Jun 28, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least we all had a couple of days of daring to dream.

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by DC Trojan on Jun 28, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still might happen tomorrow. The Rising Suns!

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jun 28, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone watching Japan-Paraguay? Still 0-0 almost 35:00 in, and Japan hasn’t looked very sharp in their attack at all but maybe they’re warming up now.

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by atomsareenough on Jun 29, 2010 7:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Japan appears at a bit of a height disparity and subsequently are having trouble getting to headers in the box.

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by atomsareenough on Jun 29, 2010 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Honda has been one of the stars of the tournament. He should be in the all world cup 11 or whatever its called.

by LeonPowe on Jun 29, 2010 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

PK’s for Japan-Paraguay

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by atomsareenough on Jun 29, 2010 9:29 AM PDT reply actions  

such a tense moment for their fans. I watched Ireland go to PKs 8 years ago with a friend against Spain. He went through – no joke – an entire pack of cigarettes during the PKs.

by LeonPowe on Jun 29, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can just imagine the lulz

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by Thoroughbred on Jun 29, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Japan keeper has guessed right twice so far – just missed both balls.

by LeonPowe on Jun 29, 2010 9:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh, what a miss from Komano!

by LeonPowe on Jun 29, 2010 9:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Sigh, I feel bad for the Japan GK.

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by atomsareenough on Jun 29, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m still bitter USA didn’t get to PKs. That would’ve been epic for the fanbase… win or lose

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by Thoroughbred on Jun 29, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

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by Berkelium97 on Jun 29, 2010 2:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Cal Football: Some things, you just accept, repress, and move on.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 29, 2010 3:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Perhaps it’s because I dislike Kaka, but I found that sending off to be more funny than an outrage.

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"

by DC Trojan on Jun 29, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

GO DUTCH!

That is all.

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by CalBear81 on Jun 29, 2010 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Hup Holland!

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by DC Trojan on Jun 29, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Spain-Portugal was super intense

Lots of fun to watch, although Portgual’s strategy of “let’s not give up goal and not score either” was eventually bound to fail.

Thought Japan was the better side today (defense of their backline was very impressive), just couldn’t finish their opportunities and it went to the randomness of the penalty kicks.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jun 29, 2010 4:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I lucked into getting to see Spain’s goal at lunch. That was simply an awesome pass (the backwards heel flick) to set up the shot.

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by Kodiak on Jun 29, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

And the pass before that was just as good!

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jun 29, 2010 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOOHOO, PORTUGAL IS GONE!

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by norcalnick on Jun 29, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

This Brazil Holland game is awfully chippy early.

by LeonPowe on Jul 2, 2010 7:25 AM PDT reply actions  

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