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Max Zhang - Balling in China



Last night Team China played a game in Qingdao against Argentina's . . .well, I think it was like their C squad. I have spent all morning looking for the box score, but I can't seem to find it - but most importantly for us, Max Zhang came off the bench and did some stuff.

Also, this was the debut of the black China uniforms, so that was pretty cool.

I'm going to dig around when I find some time this afternoon, but I read some of the game reports it sounds like he was good and mobile and changed some shots on defense, but awkward and not very fluid on offense. (My reading Chinese is not great - so maybe geofreak or yellow fever or someone else could take a look too)

There's an post-practice interview with him here -  again, no time to sit down and translate (its in Chinese of course) - maybe I'll work on it tonight.

 

Most importantly - photos. BIG MAX! (after the jump)

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It took some finding, but here’s Max’s stats for the game:

8 points (3/9 FG 2/4 FT)
3 rebounds
2 blocks

by LeonPowe on Jun 21, 2010 2:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Ooops, Sorry, was looking at the wrong box score. here’s the correct one

Time Played: 15:53
2-4 from the field
1-4 from the line (work on that free throw Max!)
2 rebounds
3 fouls
2 steals
2 turnovers
2 blocked shots

by LeonPowe on Jun 21, 2010 2:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

And China B beat Argentina (like C or D) 82-61

by LeonPowe on Jun 21, 2010 2:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope you gave him a Go Bears!

by sec119 on Jun 21, 2010 7:51 AM PDT reply actions  

and thanks for the pics!

by sec119 on Jun 21, 2010 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’d love to give him a Go Bears!, alas, Qingdao is quite a bit from Shanghai.

(Last year Lamond Murray was playing on Guangdong’s CBA team, we got a small group together and gave him a GO BEARS! – he acknowledged us with a double fist pound to the heart)

by LeonPowe on Jun 21, 2010 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

STOP TRYING TO TEACH ME CHINESE GEOGRAPHY!!

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by TwistNHook on Jun 21, 2010 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lamond Murray is still playing? Good for him.

Costs STILL assessed against Twist

by CALumbus Bear on Jun 21, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, that was last CBA season. (2008-2009)

by LeonPowe on Jun 21, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Liar! How did you not know that he is now playing in the Bahrain Basketball Association? The news was HUGE when he signed.

Costs STILL assessed against Twist

by CALumbus Bear on Jun 21, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Muharraq will be coached this year by American Patrick Stewart, who has experience with several national teams from the region and clubs from Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar, to name a few.

Happy to hear we are claiming Patrick Stewart as our own now, but why is he coaching Lamond Murray in Bahrain???

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by TwistNHook on Jun 21, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why not?

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jun 21, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess Sir Patrick Stewart really can do anything!

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by TwistNHook on Jun 21, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Max needs to get those rebound totals up!

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jun 21, 2010 8:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Did they insist that Max at the end in the anthem lineup just to emphasize his incredible height even more?!?

Thanks LP. I’ve missed the Zhang Train Game Face ©

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by norcalnick on Jun 21, 2010 8:30 PM PDT reply actions  

He looks a full head taller than Tan Zhendong – who I thought was a 7-footer. But looks . . .maybe 6’10" (the tall guy in the middle of the China team)

by LeonPowe on Jun 21, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here’s the video of the game

by LeonPowe on Jun 21, 2010 8:45 PM PDT reply actions  

woah, chinese point guard??

I’ve seen everything.

no cal bear? no care

by EchoOfSilence on Jun 21, 2010 9:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Trevor Ariza looks different than I remember.

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by TwistNHook on Jun 21, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jeremy Lin is from Palo Alto. 2nd gen Taiwanese American.

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by solarise on Jun 21, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still a chinese point guard.

Actually the issue isn’t talent. it’s coaching and system. Chinese point guards are not trained to penetrate or run the team, they’re trained to give the ball to the big man. The one point guard who came up outside the system (Chen Jianhua – got an ESPN the Magazine story, and blew by US defenders in 04/08) got benched and is out of the rotation. Not for talent issues, but because he plays a lot more like a US groomed point guard (penetration and scoring) as opposed to China system point (Give the ball to the center).

Some thought for hte future though – the Chinese National team is on their 3rd foreign coach (the first was Del harris) – and hopefully he will have some influence on the lower ends of the system – they’re running a new motion offense and the new kids coming up might have a little bit more flavor.

Liu Wei is the current Chinese point guard – he can shoot it, but is below average internationally in ball handling and passing.

by LeonPowe on Jun 22, 2010 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I cobbled together a few Babelfish translations my poor Chinese reading (I’m Taiwanese so I read traditional, and even then I suck).

One of the photo captions says “I thought Datang was better than Su Wei and Max.”

The caption for the photo of Max where he’s taking a shot over #15 gave a hilarious Engrish translation:

Looked under chart this group turns around the one-hand shot take Max after the round which finishing, I asked I nabs: " Is putting on the small underpants’ these antiquity god beastly center likely? "

No idea what that means.

The coach said in the press conference that Max is good on defense because of his height and wingspan, but isn’t as effective on offense because he’s still “looking for his feeling”. So I guess it’s what we’ve been saying all this time, that Max thrives on confidence.

In his postgame interview, Max talked a little about the team’s practices. They first practiced in Beijing for a week, where they practiced shooting, and then they went to Ningbo. He mentioned something about each player developing their own skills and letting the coach see their abilities. I speak Taiwanese Mandarin (basically, I sound like a redneck to mainlanders) and I can’t understand yer sophisticated Beijing cityfolk talk dat good.

by GeoFreak on Jun 21, 2010 10:16 PM PDT reply actions  

CGB: Is putting on the small underpants these antiquity god beastly center likely? since 2006

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by rollonubears on Jun 22, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I, for one, am happy you are back in my life.

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by TwistNHook on Jun 22, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

a bit more on the translation

The end of the coach’s quote on Max was:

If he can find his touch on the offensive end, he could be one of the best players in China.

For the caption where he’s shooting over #15, beijing slang is tough, but I pieced together the following:

After seeing the play in the next pic – Max’s one handed turnaround jump shot – i asked my buddy next to me “Doesn’t he look like one of those like those ancient mythological beasts with the underpants?”

pic enclosed

Kids in china spend too much time on the internet…

by HK_bear on Jun 22, 2010 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey cool! Someone else on this side of the world.

I lived in HK from 1977-1978 and then again from 1997 – 2003

by LeonPowe on Jun 22, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Theres a small but growing cal contingent in HK. I’ve been here about 6 years now, and was in shanghai for a year before that. Prior to that i was just your typical ABC in NY and LA.

Its tough to stay up to date on this side of the pond, but i’ve been lurking on this site for a few years and it is by far the best way to keep up with whats going on.

by HK_bear on Jun 22, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Already Been Chewed?

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by TwistNHook on Jun 22, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always Be Closing.

I’ll assume that you’re already hooked up with Travis and their band of Cal viewing parties and events and the like?

by LeonPowe on Jun 22, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, Travis has yet to contact me. What a jerk! He shoulda called! And I’ve been waiting by the phone and everything.

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by TwistNHook on Jun 22, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep I know travis. But to be honest, with most games being shown on sunday mornings, i tend to watch them in my underwear at home.

by HK_bear on Jun 22, 2010 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

We have a small band of Cal viewers here in Shanghai – so if you’re ever up this way, put a note on CGB.

by LeonPowe on Jun 22, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks for the invite – i might take you up on that.

by HK_bear on Jun 22, 2010 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

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by atomsareenough on Jun 22, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m in Taiwan for the summer and I was surprised at how many MMO commercials there were on TV. My cousin’s school textbooks even had ads for MMOs, among other things.

by GeoFreak on Jun 22, 2010 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

MMO? Mike Mohamed Opporceptions?

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by TwistNHook on Jun 22, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

GeoFreak – are you in Taipei?

by LeonPowe on Jun 22, 2010 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep. I’ll be here until August.

by GeoFreak on Jun 23, 2010 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Summer in Taipei – it should be pretty awesome. Night Market, hanging out at Warner Village, avoiding the Love Boat kids (wait, you’re not there for Love Boat are you?),

by LeonPowe on Jun 23, 2010 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, I’m doing some biochem research at Academia Sinica. I know about Love Boat, though. Are they really that bad?

I haven’t done that much sightseeing yet. I went on a day trip to Kaohsiung with two of my older cousins, and that was pretty fun. In Taipei I’ve only gone to some random department stores and walked around Ximending for a bit, and I’ve had lots of good (and CHEAP!) food. Overall I’m enjoying my time here so far.

The only thing I don’t like is the weather. I now realize how lucky I am to live in California.

I plan to at least see Taipei 101, the National Palace Museum, the CKS (been there before but I was really young) and SYS Memorials, and a night market. Any other places you’d recommend? Food, sightseeing, etc.

by GeoFreak on Jun 23, 2010 1:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh – this is not a usual summer activity? Very cool. Then I’d definately recommend Toroko Gorge over a weekend, Yuanmingshan north of Taipei for hot springs. If you take the MRT all the way to Danshui (its about an hour ride) the food, especially the seafood there, is great on a summer weekend. The best night market in my opinion is Shilin – but everyone says that. You should try them all.

Let’s see – Din Tai Fung is a must for xiaolongbao. And this, I think, is one of those places where the original is definately better than any of the other branches – even the other on in Taipei on Chunghsiao East Road. Also, the original Yong He Dou Jiang Wang – I’ve never had Chinese dough fritters that non-oily, and yet that tasty before. Amazing Chinese breakfast.

As for love boat kids, my opinion about them is 100% hypocritical – they annoy me because they show up to the clubs and bars in groups of 10-15 and think because they’re ABCs (which I am too) they run the place and are cooler than everyone else. Very annoying once you start living in Asia (they tend to go through Hong Kong post-Love Boat as well). Recognizing that I would easily have been exactly like them had I went on Love Boat doesn’t prevent me from being super annoyed by them anyways.

by LeonPowe on Jun 23, 2010 1:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Love Boat?

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by TwistNHook on Jun 23, 2010 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Overseas Compatriot Youth Formosa Study Tour to Taiwan, informally known as the Love Boat, is currently a four-week summer program for about 400–600 college-aged Overseas Chinese.

wikipedia

by LeonPowe on Jun 23, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I found the love boat people to be pretty snobby and cliquish whenever I ran into them. But then again, I’m 5th gen ABC which makes it hard to relate to anyways.

Maybe I’m just bitter ’cuz none of the cute girls would talk to me.

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by Kodiak on Jun 23, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

as a love boat alumni, i can say that all of your accusations are true. there was a lot of alchohol mixed with girls and a sense of entitlement that only american college kids abroad are capable of exhibiting. in retrospect, i can see how this would have annoyed a lot of people, but it was damn good fun at the time…

if you do get a chance to sample the nightlife, i would recommend room 18, in house or primo.

in terms of food, some of my favorite restaurants in taipei include:
永和豆漿 – breakfast
欣葉 – nicer taiwanese
真的好 – nicer taiwanese seafood
度小月- casual taiwanese (danzai noodles)
kiki – sichuan
永康牛肉麵 – beef noodles
君悅排骨 – pork chop rice

cant go wrong with any of those…

by HK_bear on Jun 23, 2010 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

ironically – a good 20% of my friends are because of Love Boat – and I’ve never actually gone. It’s just all of my friends went and so many ended up living out here, that “Oh, you should meet this person” “how do you know them?” “we met at love boat”

by LeonPowe on Jun 24, 2010 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I never knew I had Chinese characters on my computer until now!

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by TwistNHook on Jun 24, 2010 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

What about Kodiak?

by LeonPowe on Jun 24, 2010 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

We need a rimshot button here.

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by atomsareenough on Jun 24, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I knew I had Chinese characters on my computer. I just have no idea what they’re trying to say to me. I hope they come in peace.

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by Kodiak on Jun 24, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Din Tai Fung is so fucking good. At least the one in Beijing was. The LA one was wasn’t quite the same, but it was decent.

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by atomsareenough on Jun 23, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

What people who think they know what they’re talking about say is the one in Arcadia isn’t as good because they need to use metal steamers (instead of bamboo) due to US kitchen hygiene rules

by LeonPowe on Jun 23, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you think they know what they’re talking about? I mean, I suppose that could be an explanation.

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by atomsareenough on Jun 23, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s as reasonable an explanation as I’ve heard. Most other Din Tai Fung’s I’ve been to (Beijing, Shanghai, Singapore) with the exception of the original (better) and Arcadia (slightly worse) have been consistent.

by LeonPowe on Jun 23, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

On my last trip to Taiwan, when I was 11, I ate 15 xiaolongbao at Din Tai Fung. Hopefully I can go again. Do you know if you have to reserve well in advance?

From the name, I’m assuming Yong He Dou Jiang Wang is in Yonghe City. If it’s the same one my uncle mentioned, then according to him it’s not as good anymore. I haven’t tried it though, so I can’t judge.

I’d definitely like to check out Taroko Gorge while I have the chance. I have no idea when I’ll get to come back again, and for how long…

by GeoFreak on Jun 25, 2010 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t believe you can reserve in advance – especially at the original one. Just arrive at 11:45am and you should be fine . . .and especially don’t go on Saturday morning.

Your uncle may say its no good anymore, but its far better than anything you’ll get in the US (or we get in Shanghai) so still go.

by LeonPowe on Jun 25, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'VE BEEN TO THE NIGHT MARKET

Unfortunately, it was only for a few hours one night. But my friends and I played pick-up basketball against Taiwanese guys every day for a week. The hoops were all 9’5" or so

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by Thoroughbred on Jun 23, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

The area around T.U. has good pick up basketball.

by LeonPowe on Jun 23, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Second warm-up game – Max started and played a lot more minutes – similar stats though

Minutes:
30:55
3-5 FG
4 Rebounds (2 offensive)
2 Assists
1 steal
2 blocks
7 points


by LeonPowe on Jun 22, 2010 2:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Is anyone seeing these photos? I can’t see them here for some reason. If not, I’ll link to them later.

by LeonPowe on Jun 22, 2010 2:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I do not see photos.

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