Golden Nuggets: Pac Twelve Finalized?
by Berkelium97 on Jun 15, 2010 5:00 PM PDT
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PrintUpdate: CSN Bay Area is reporting that Utah will be invited to the Pac-10. An official annoucement will be made tomorrow.
With the death of the Pac-16, it looks like we'll have to settle for the Pac Tweleven as a consolation prize. Bruce Jenkins of the SFGate isn't too displeased about it.
Make no mistake, that was Scott's plan. A number of Pac-10 schools were all for the big push, for it meant untold riches distributed from a brand-new conference television network. Well, tough break on that one, everybody. Live with it. Remember how you would have felt when those Great Plains schools started racking up all the conference titles. Take heart in the fact that Cal and Stanford won't be forever looking up at the Longhorns and Sooners - in a number of sports.
The worst of it, for Scott, is that the Pac-10 still made a ridiculous move. Adding Colorado was the initial piece of the puzzle, with the bigger boys soon to follow, except ... no. Now the Pac-10 is stuck with Colorado, and maybe Utah down the road, to make it an even 12 teams. Ludicrous. Nothing but a lot of extra travel, for no reason, in tough economic times. It was enough of a stretch to give the Arizona schools a "Pacific" label, and what happens in football now - you play all 11 teams, with no room for nonconference action?
At least there's a semblance of the regional element with the Big 12 saved. That conference becomes more centralized with Colorado out of the way. Adding Nebraska to the Big Ten actually sounds pretty good. A lot of conferences are breathing a bit easier, for if the nation were overcome by superconferences, dozens of once relevant schools would be looking to schedule that big game against Amherst.
After the jump Utah looks forward to a possible invitation from the Pac-10, Colorado wants to move in 2011, ESPN redesigns the conference logos (with great results), and more.
Cal Football
- Ted Miller ranked Cameron Jordan as the Pac-10's 15th most valuable player. He is the first Bear to appear on the list. Look for Mohamed and Vereen to appear in upcoming installments of Ted's ongoing series.
- Linebacker Chris Little was dismissed from the team. Tedford cited "day-to-day lack of accountability."
- If Utah receives an invitation from the Pac-10 it will most likely accept it.
- Colorado may move to the Pac-10 next season. Utah only needs to give the MWC one year's notice, so it will likely also join in 2011 if it receives an invitation.
- Ted Miller ponders the future--immediate and long-term--of the conference.
- Wilner crunches the numbers on increased revenue under the Pac-12.
- Winners and losers of the failed expansion deal. Also, what did we learn from all this?
- ESPN tried its hand at redesigning the conference logos
via a.espncdn.com
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2 Divisions with 6 teams each:
Pac-12 North Division
UW
Wazzu
Oregon
OSU
Cal
Utah
Pac-12 South Division
Furd
USC
UCLA
Zona
ASU
Colorado
Rules:
9 conference games every year
Round robin in your division
Cal plays Furd every year
Utah plays Colorado every year
Cal also gets USC/UCLA every year (keeping CA intact)
Odds: (reciprocating, but all listed for convenience)
UW, Wazzu, Oregon & OSU play Furd, USC, UCLA 3 out of every 5 years
UW, Wazzu, Oregon & OSU play Colorado 2 out of every 3 years
UW, Wazzu, Oregon & OSU play Zona and ASU 23 out of every 30 years
Cal plays Zona, ASU, Colorado 1 out of every 3 years
Utah plays Furd, USC, UCLA, Zona and ASU 3 out of every 5 years
Furd, USC and UCLA play UW, Wazzu, Oregon, OSU, Utah 3 out of every 5 years
Zona and ASU play UW, Wazzu, Oregon, OSU 23 out of every 30 years
Zona and ASU play Cal 1 out of every 3 years
Zona and ASU play Utah 3 out of every 5 years
Colorado plays UW, Wazzu, Oregon and OSU 2 out of every 3 years
Colorado plays Cal 1 out of every 3 years
Check it out: Pac-12 Schedule by daveman
It’s an imbalanced solution since Cal gets Furd, USC and UCLA every year while the other teams in the division only get them 3 out of every 5 years, but this preserves ALL California match-ups and natural rivalries.
No North/South please
I think the Oregons and Washingtons can (and should) shoot that down in favor of a “zipper” type model where rivals are in opposing conferences but still play each other every year. Conference expansion shouldn’t mean the Northwest schools get banned from California every other year.
A little Cal Centric
That schedule is more then a little bit beneficial unfair. Why would any of the other North Division schools agree to a schedule that benefits one school so much? Why would they decide to split up Cal and Stanford while keeping all of the other pairings intact?
I think in the confines of the BCS system, we can only have 8 conference games or the conference champion will have to play 10 conference games. There is no way a team from the Pac12 will ever make it to the national title game in that case. And the schedule should be as balanced as possible. One permanent inter-division game at most.
As for the northwest schools, it’s reasonable to guarantee at least one California game a year, with a second one on a rotating basis. The northwest schools are in no position to demand an LA game every year, when clearly the California schools have a strong preference to play one another every year.
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by CaliforniaEternal on Jun 15, 2010 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Zipper
I prefer the zipper approach. Zippers make it easier to use the trojans, and I’m in favor of that.
Utah Asst AD denying offer has been made
And denyting that there is a press conference tomorrow. We’ll find out soon enough, I guess.
by Glanko on Jun 15, 2010 9:16 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
considering that
there’s less “we have to keep things secret” in terms of Utah (seriously, who’s going to veto it? BYU?), I’m inclined to believe denials, though as usual, who the hell knows.
Not too displeased?
The worst of it, for Scott, is that the Pac-10 still made a ridiculous move. Adding Colorado was the initial piece of the puzzle, with the bigger boys soon to follow, except … no. Now the Pac-10 is stuck with Colorado, and maybe Utah down the road, to make it an even 12 teams. Ludicrous. Nothing but a lot of extra travel, for no reason, in tough economic times. It was enough of a stretch to give the Arizona schools a “Pacific” label, and what happens in football now – you play all 11 teams, with no room for nonconference action?
Sounds pretty damn displeased to me.
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Oddly enough he titled the article “Proposed Pac-16 Blowing Up Not All Bad.” He seems a bit confused about how he feels. He certainly has a lot of feelings.
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LOL greedy pac-10!
You wanted Texas, and you get Utah, and have to cobble some dumb division alignment that probably won’t make much sense and will most likely split the CA schools up. Nicely done.
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by natteringnabob on Jun 16, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Why not TCU?
I don’t know much about their academics, but why not explore TCU if you’re going to raid the Mtn West? It’s a far cry from UT, but it give you inroads to Texas recruiting and probably a better TV market.
It's what the 'C' stands for
The Pac-10 has made it clear that no religious schools are welcome and the ‘C’ stands for Christian. BYU is similarly out of the realm of possibilities.
Pac - 12: Anti-Sectarian conference.
Drew: 'Oh no.. That is certainly the meaty part alright, but it's not the thigh..."
Randy: "No... that bone is NOT connected to the thigh bone..."
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by SeanCrosby87 on Jun 16, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
There’s no place for Youngness in the Pac-10.
"UC Davis??? hahahahaha" - Aaron Rodgers
by atomsareenough on Jun 16, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
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