Golden Recruiting Profiles: Chris Martin
We start with our summer-long look at the 2010 California Golden Bears football recruiting class. First up, the crown jewel, Chris Martin.
| Schools: Grandview High at Aurora Springs, CO senior year, Bishop O'Dowd at Oakland, CA junior year |
| Scout: 5 stars, #1 OLB |
| Rivals: 5 stars, #2 Strong side DE |
| ESPN: 4 stars, #10 DE |
| MaxPreps: #3 OLB |
| Competition: Oklahoma, Florida, USC, Notre Dame, UCLA. |
| Previous coverage of C-Mart: Commitment thread. |
| Videos: ESPN, CalBears |
It's safe to say none of us expected him to be a Golden Bear as late as December. He was firmly Notre Dame until Charlie Weis got the axe after his Irish stumbled to the finish and underachieived for yet another season. Florida was a second option, but Charlie Strong's departure made that situation a little too unstable. So yes, the Bears got lucky that Martin decided to come home. The consensus by Irish fans was that Weis would probably get canned if he didn't win nine to ten games though, so most scenarios still point to the dominoes still falling and Martin still going.
After the jump, we'll get a clearer idea as to how Martin will evolve into one of Cal's best playmakers, and why he might not make the immediate impact on the field some fans seem to believe he'll make. Also, a scouting profile and evaluation from ttgiang15 and plenty of linkage from solarise.
Many Cal fans think Martin will immediately come off and establish himself as a starter; I'm a little bit more cautious. Adjusting from creaming offensive linemen at a decent but hardly dominant division in Colorado will be a significant change of pace from facing up and spinning around Trojan and Cardinal linemen. Even tougher will be switching to a 3-4 pro scheme, which I'm guessing will not be as easy to do.
For further support, take a look at the 2009 5 star OLBs and DEs according to Rivals.
OLBs--Jelani Jenkins (Florida), Nico Johnson (Alabama), Dorian Bell (Ohio State)
DEs--Alex Okafor (Texas)
Their combined totals in 2010? 48 tackles, 7 tackles for loss, 2 sacks, 1 fumble forced. Johnson was the most impressive of the four, but he was the only one to grab 20 tackles or more. Jenkins only had one tackle, and Bell didn't play at all.
A lot of this is just based on timing. Even the best talents can't really participate in Cal football practices until late July, and maybe seven-on-seven drills during the summer. It's just not enough time to get a feel of new schemes and plays. Martin might work his way into the lineup as the season wears on and his physical gifts mesh with the defense he's playing within, but starting outright against UC Davis? I would be very surprised.
Now you could argue that the Bears don't have a strong established linebacking unit like the Longhorns, Tide, Buckeyes and Gators did. But but with Cal having three returning starters in Michael Mohamed, Mychal Kendricks, and D.J. Holt, and several players like Keith Browner, Jarred Price and Steven Fanua likely to contribute next season, there won't be enough space for Chris to prove himself unless he literally blows the doors off in fall practice. To imagine Martin being anything but a spot player who can still display the high schools (rush situations off the edge where he doesn't have to deal with too many linemen).
Tale of the tape
Here's Martin's senior video & junior video in that order.
ttgiang15, our resident recruiting video expert, gives us his take on Martin's tape, and seems to come to similar conclusions that Martin, while physically adept, still has a lot of technique issues to work on before becoming a premier Pac-10 defender.
Evaluation: Already possesses D-1 body in high school. Chris Martin is a monster tackler who always drives the offensive player backwards. He has incredible upper body strength. Great closing speed on run support, good speed for size overall. Because of height and competition, often tackles too high (shoulders), so he'll need to get better pad level against stiffer competition. On runs to outside, Martin has a tendency to leave his feet on tackles. (The front seven of a defense should only leave their feet outside the hash for shoestring tackles.) More active hands in senior film. Needs to do a better job at shedding the blocker--in most instances where he meets the O-line, the player with the ball meets Martin, and not the other way around. Grading him as a linebacker, only average mobility lateral to the line of scrimmage and slow to react to pass plays.
Projection: Taken at surface value, all signs point to Chris Martin playing immediately: already has the size and strength, is absolutely dominant in film, and with questionable talent on roster at WLB, Martin should have a realistic opportunity to contribute. But if he were to play this upcoming season, it will be in 4-3 alignment, or pass-rushing specialist as the outside linebacker a la Jarred Price. He has played LB extensively in high school, but most of the time it's within 1-2 yards of the LOS, and there's no footage available that actually shows him in pass coverage. It will take a lot more time than most realize for him to transition into full-time linebacker. The only way he is going to achieve starter status is if he can prove that he can play tight coverage. And not just opportunistic space filler like Keith Browner, but that he can be a respectable defender against the pass. In fact, down the road, I don't expect him to stay at linebacker at all. I project him as a defensive end (exclusively) or tight end, in the mold of Kavario Middleton (UW). He would be a great special teams player, blocking tight end for certain personnel packages, and fourth linemen on defense this upcoming season.
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All props go to solarise for gathering these.
Julie Turner at ESPN wrote this excellent profile of Martin at Grandview while he was still a Notre Dame commit. It talks about how humble he is with his coaches, about how he integrates himself with the team, and how he leads by example.
In an interview with MaxPreps, Grandview's AD, Jon Hoerl, says Martin likes the 3-4 defensive schemes Cal runs, and is happy with the education the Golden Bears offer.
The Bear Insider article of his recommitment mentions how Martin started to sour on Cal his junior year before recommitting himself to the Bears his senior season. Ron Gould was his initial recruiter, and Tosh Lupoi and Kenwick Thompson worked with him near the end.
According to Rob Calogne of the Examiner, Martin accumulated 207 tackles, 15 sacks, five forced fumbles, and two fumble recoveries.
When asked by Glenn Dickey of the SF Examiner, Tedford believes Martin's role will be similar to Zack Follett's role at the start, and definitely thinks he'll contribute early. Although I don't believe he'll start, I definitely believe he'll show off his physical abilities in the pass rushing game his freshman year.
Bryan Kelly of Bleacher Report lists Martin as one of 50 freshman likely to be a true starter.
Here's a report from AthlonSports of Martin's involvement at the Gridiron Kings event. He played middle linebacker there, and how it allowed him to work better on his hip movement.
Ask Chris Martin
Formspring is a microblogging service that allows people to ask questions of other people and gives you the opportunity to ask them. Well, Martin has become one of its primary users. Somehow, Coach Tedford doesn't know of this yet, and, well, it's simply a blessing. Here are some of his sample responses.
What is the one thing that disgusts you?
Oregon's uniformsIf you were gay who would want to have a passionate affair with?
if you could describe "Stanford" in 3 words what would they be ?
Mike Mo!
B*TCH A$$ T3AM
you totally misused oxymoron. a good example of an oxymoron is act naturally or larger half. stop being a dumb jock
SO I PRESUME YOU ARE MR. PUSSY MAN??? CORRECT??? I DO APOLOGIZE..IT'S LATE AND IT'S HARDWORK BEING A "PUSSY" BUT HEY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE URBAN MEYER, JEFF TEDFORD, LANE KIFFIN, OR HERE IS A BALL BUSTER....NICK SABAN'S PERSONAL CELL PHONE NUMBER JUST MESSAGE ME AND I CAN PROVIDE THAT FOR YA. THANK YOU FOR THE CORRECTION BY THE WAY. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING A YOUNG MAN THAT HAS EXCELLED IN ACADEMICS AND SPORTS AND WAS BLESSED ENOUGH TO RECEIVE NUMEROUS SCHOLARSHIP OFFERS BASED ON MY OUTSTANDING ABILITY NOT ONLY ON THE FIELD, BUT IN THE CLASSROOM. I TRULY DO APOLOGIZE.
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I think it’s pretty obvious that Chris Martin won’t be a full time starter at any time during the 2009 season. Yet, “sometime during the 2009 season” has two votes as of 8:25 am Eastern Time. Go figure.
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i think we'll see C-Mart
but I don’t expect him to start this year
it’s rarer for defensive players to start straight out of high school, and that likelihood decreases as the position’s size increases (that holds for offense too)
as far as linebackers, we aren’t’s as thin as people seem to think. the white terrorist and Kendricks are both very solid. we expect TWT to be nfl bound in 11 monhts. word 2 years ago when kendricks was a freshman was that he could be the best cal linebacker ever. That of course could change with this class. but long story short, dominating in high school doesn’t translate directly to dominating ncaa.
lastly, our best linebackers of recent years have limited time as freshmen and sophomores and become starters as juniors … Bishop and Pain Train specifically. C-Mart has to beat out some mature solid starters and consistently before he brings the lights out special
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by the CGB on May 25, 2010 6:09 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Bishop must have had limited time as a frosh/soph for us. Afterall, he did transfer in as a juco guy.
“the white terrorist” … really?
Yeah, let’s please not go there with the nicknames.
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by atomsareenough on May 25, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
doh, that's a good point
so when was the last time a freshman lb started @ cal?
kendricks started half of the games last year
again, the point, that most people seem to miss, is that even the BEST players don’t often start as freshmen
jahvid: no
marshawn: no
follett: no
alualu: no
twt: no
Most of those guys had really established guys in front of them and were any of them 5 stars?
Who are our established outside linebackers?
Desean started as a freshman. 5 *
by DavidsonBear on May 25, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Anthony Felder started at LB in 2005.
Since your argument is saying even the best players don’t often start as frosh, you are right. But that doesn’t mean that other less highly recruited true frosh players don’t start.
Desean Jackson started every game he played.
Robert Jordan started as a frosh.
Chris Conte started a number of times as a frosh.
Tyson Alualu started a game as a frosh.
And plenty of other true frosh have seen time in the rotation their first year: Cameron Jordan, Brian Schwenke, Marvin Jones, Anthony Miller, Trevor Guyton, Kendricks, and on
Unless a true frosh is ultra talented like Desean, they likely will not start. Jordan, Conte, Alualu, and the other non-starting true frosh I listed above all got a chance to play because they were talented enough and played a position of need.
The LB spots are more wide open than you think. Martin will play OLB so he will be competing for PT with Price, Little, Browner, Davis, Kendricks, and Whiteside. Fanua, Mohamed, Forbes, Wilkerson, Holt, Hurrell, Mullins, and Meadows are all inside guys unless something has changed. Kendricks and Mohamed can play inside or outside. I may have missed a few guys but those are who I could think of off the top of my head.
Given that Martin played in a 3-3-5 scheme at Grandview, has a body ready to play college ball alreday, and is very physically gifted, he has a good shot to start this year. He also is a fiery leader, fearless, and is nasty – all great qualities. His limitations are repetitions and getting the playbook down. Depending how fast that happens, the sky is the limit for him. I’d bet it will be sooner rather than later.
Robert Jordan started as a frosh
I wouldn’t include him. He was no higher than #4, and maybe #5, on the depth chart with McArthur, Makonnen, Lyman, and possibly Burl (I don’t remember if I’m getting my timeframe right here but I think I am) ahead of him. I’m pretty sure he started out as a redshirt, right? He was a starter only because of injuries. I’m thinking a similar thing happened with Conte? I guess it seems to me like it’s very unlikely for a freshman to actually get to the top of the depth chart, even if they do manage to get PT and maybe even get some starts because of injuries to players above them.
by Missing Barry on May 25, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Jordan’s redshirt was pulled and I believe Conte played because our depth was atrocious at CB in 07.
I agree it’s not likely for true frosh to catapult to the top of the depth chart without some injuries or a position that’s lacking depth already, but that wasn’t that point I was trying to make. Regardless of circumstance or their rankings, true frosh do start for Cal.
all good points
many on here are more historied and better researched than i
i’m simply saying that for several reasons i do not see him (CM) starting this fall
primary reasons:
- seasoned guys ahead of him with 3-4 (despite the new dc) experience
- not ‘big enough’ to play interior 7 – a d1 body doesn’t mean d1 ability … he’s tall and big but likely doesn’t have the the strength/power needed
as far as who our outside linebackers are: ‘mikmo’ (for the sake of berkeley political ubercorrectness) has been but has been moved inside due to lack of inside presence
obviously we all want the best for our bears … i wish we were ALWAYS in a position to redshirt the most talented of our recruits, but rarely are we … as someone who spends more time training athletes than watching them, having them prepared and injury free is my primary concern … no matter how ready we may want them to be, more time preparing often leaves them better off in the long run
lastly, exterior guys and speed guys are most likely to be ready out of HS … they take the least punishment, and some of these guys have the “it” that just can’t be coached … i’m thinking desean and jahvid here … the “it” is the rare combo of athletic abiltiy and vision and field smarts to make it all happen … and on the inside this is very rare
Go. Bears.
Some Info
Martin was looking into other programs well before Weis was fired. There was a lot more going on behind the scenes than what was reported.
Then, I guess that means Martin was not “firmly Notre Dame until Charlie Weis got the axe after his Irish stumbled to the finish and underachieived for yet another season.”
I presume that Avi was going based off of things that were reported. If you have “inside” information that wasn’t out in the mainstream, please by all means tell us.
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Martin committed very, very early in the process and his priorities and views changed over time. I just want to emphasize that Weis being fired was a factor but there were other equally or more important factors for him switching to Cal.
We won Mrs Martin over. Chris was coming home.
aggregating recruiting notes at the solarise collection
Formspring...
This is why we can’t have anything nice.
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by Maisbikkja on May 25, 2010 7:48 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Is it crazy that...
…I heard he was going to be #9 and already got a custom jersey #9 with “Martin” on the back?
God I hope he’s #9…
literally?
“there won’t be enough space for Chris to prove himself unless he literally blows the doors off in fall practice.”
i think you mean figuratively. it’s not like if he ends up proving himself he would have actually physically blown the doors off.
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Well, your instinct for making pedantic corrections shows that you really have a good feel for the tenor of this site, and you will fit in PERFECTLY. And I mean that literally, not figuratively or sarcastically. Welcome!! :)
"UC Davis??? hahahahaha" - Aaron Rodgers
by atomsareenough on May 25, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
well if anyone cares… it also grinds my gears when people misuse the word irony. i feel like i’m the only econ major who cares about stuff like this.
Speaking personally, I can say with complete certainty that you are not the only econ major who cares about stuff like this. I know this because I am an econ major who cares about stuff like this.
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by atomsareenough on May 25, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I work in economics and I completely and utterly don’t care about trivial unimportant details like that!
by Missing Barry on May 25, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d love for him to start from Day 1 because that would mean we truly have a beast on our defense. I think we could really use an infusion of attitude and nastiness on that side of the ball.
However, it’s more reasonable to think that he’s going to get brought along slowly and be put in situations where he doesn’t have to make too many reads.
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how many reads does an Weakside linebacker make?
by DavidsonBear on May 25, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Beats me, I’m an amateur fan.
Maybe Cali49a, Hydro, or ttgiang can give you a more intelligent answer.
My suspicion is that it’s first run or pass and there are different responsibilities for each. From all reports, the new defensive scheme is supposed to let players play fast and aggressive – that gives me hope that he’ll see the field sooner.
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For the pre-snap read, defenders will have to know down and distance, “read” the offensive formation, and align themselves correctly depending on the defense dialed up. If motion occurs, another “read” by the defense occurs and they realign accordingly. For the post-snap read, it’s what Kodiak said:
My suspicion is that it’s first run or pass and there are different responsibilities for each.
Have you ever checked out the fan base forums like BearInsider or CalSportsDigest or BearTerritory?
YEH THEY SUCK…NO LIFE OR EXCITEMENT
:-(
At least they didn’t mention CGB…
no cal bear? no care
i would be a lot more scared if he said, “YEA COOLEST THANG EVER, BLEW OFF FOOTBALL PRACTICE TO SURF DA BOARDS!”
by DavidsonBear on May 25, 2010 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Chris Martin v. Keenan Allen
Who will have a greater impact as a Frosh?
by Another Failed Tedford QB on May 25, 2010 11:25 AM PDT reply actions
Keenan. offense is easier to spot impact
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by EchoOfSilence on May 25, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Allen’s also supposed to be inserted into defense dime packages almost right away too right? Heard he’s also supposed to play WR. I wonder where we’ll end up using him the most. I imagine WR since that’s kind of an area of need.
WR most likely, unless we end up in a lot of 3rd and 16 situations this season.
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by Avinash Kunnath on May 25, 2010 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that when there are 4 WRs on the field? I wonder if he would be used in nickel situations also, which seem more common.
When was the last time a CAL player played both ways?
by DavidsonBear on May 25, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Deltha?
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by Avinash Kunnath on May 25, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that when there are 4 WRs on the field?.
Ideally, dime packages are used with 4 WRs. Dime package = 6 DBs, Nickel = 5 DBs. If you are playing a spread offense with 4 WRs/1 RB and play dime, you sacrifice run support and pass rushing in a major way since you are removing another defender from up front.
JT has said that Allen will be looked at for our nickel packages, which is more common as you noted.
I think Chris will kick some serious donkey tail starting this year. I’ll be shocked if he hasn’t emerged as a starter by the end of the season.
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by CaliforniaEternal on May 25, 2010 4:12 PM PDT reply actions
Hmmm…I think he will see the field, no doubt, as freshman, but starter his first year? I’d say it’s 50/50. Will depend on how much progress the current LB corp. do by fall practice, I guess.
by totallyawesome on May 25, 2010 11:33 PM PDT reply actions
I don’t think it is really important whether he is dubbed a starter, but I tend to think he will play a big role this year. I don’t see who will keep him off the field in passing situations. Price? Too small. Kendricks? Don’t think rushing the QB is his forte. Maybe Browner, Davis or Meadows. He definitely needs work on his tackling technique, but I think he probably is our best combo of size and athleticism at rush LB from day 1.
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