D.J. Seeley Transfers From Cal
by Avinash Kunnath on Mar 28, 2010 4:37 PM PDT
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Well this is just the news I wanted to hear.
D.J. Seeley has decided to transfer from California and is looking for a new school...
According to our own Etop Udo-Ema that his former wing guard, 6-4 D.J. Seeley has asked for his release and is looking to transfer this spring.
6-4 DJ Seeley is a sophomore who was a big time recruit coming out of high school ranked as high as #39 in the country being recruited by Duke, Memphis, UCLA, USC and every school u could imagine. Committed to Ben Braun of California before he moved on to Rice and then honored the commitment to the new staff staying closer to home.
Many of us have been a little bit disappointed at Seeley's production during his time as a Golden Bear--he didn't even reach 40% from the field this year, and a very marginal 41% from two point range. His defense was less than stellar, which was probably a more glaring indictment than his offensive woes. He could never fit into the rotation with Christopher, Gutierrez and Robertson filling the slasher roles and seemed to enter Monty's doghouse for much of the conference season.
Still, we were all hoping that D.J. would be the guy coming in to replace Christopher's production off the wing and be our natural two guard this season--he was the only remaining slasher on this team. Cal is definitely going to be starting anew now. It might put more of a load on Franklin, Crabbe and Rossi to do more of the scoring early on, but hopefully Monty can find someone capable to replace him.
Add in the uncertain situation concerning Omondi Amoke and we could have SEVEN players gone from this year's conference title team. We wish Seeley all the best for his efforts--he did help win a crucial game in Seattle last year--and hope he finds a good home for himself soon enough.
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wow
At first I was surprised, but I guess I shouldn’t really be that surprised. He seemed out of place in Montgomery’s system, and although PC had some really nice things to say about him for next year, I still wasn’t sure if Berkeley was the right place for DJ. Good luck to him wherever he ends up!
not to sound insensitive
but what kind of scholarship scenarios does this bring up?
Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
Monty can try to sign somebody late a la Jorge, or he can just hold onto the scholarship til the next signing period, right?
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Also, if he doesn’t find someone to sign for next year, could he theoretically give the “extra” schollie to one of the walk-ons for just a year?
I am a Vereenian.
Yes
I think this is fairly common practice, actually. If I recall rightly, Alex Pribble got a scholarship for his senior season when there was an open one.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
We have had pretty good success with late signees – Jorge and I believe Theo as well. But now with Amoke potentially gone, we have two more scholarships.
by Tedfordisgod on Mar 28, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
He can’t be too thrilled that Monty went with Jorge and Nikola as his primary guards off the bench. Jorge is understandable because of what he brings in terms of energy, intensity, and defense. But Nikola? For a guy who was a star in HS, it can’t feel good to have a stiff like Nikola getting a run while you sit. It had to be about defense…can’t say that it was shot selection or turnovers. Jorge was a turnover machine and Nikola jacked up some inexplicable shots. Could have also been a personality thing. Monty is pretty sarcastic and might have rubbed him the wrong way. Can’t say that it was playing time – a starting spot was his to lose next year…As much as we’d love for freshman to come in and play well enough to start, it’s more likely for a junior with some xp to get the call.
I had high hopes for DJ, but I just didn’t see the same intensity that Jorge or Amoke displayed on the court. Perhaps Monty saw this as a lack of effort—something Monty prides his teams on having (imo, his Furd teams never ever showed a lack of hustle and intensity).
With that said, his movement was silky smooth and I have a feeling he’s due to break out at his next stop.
Samuels said. "That last-minute shot at halftime sums it up. Shooting off one leg? C'mon, man."
you're right
Seeley will go to a school where he can play loose and score a ton of points. And people will probably feel regret over his departure. But I bet he still doesn’t play with the intensity that would have been required at the Pac10, or from Monty. And he’ll be sloppy with the ball and commit turnovers.
So, my point is, doesn’t matter if you score 20 points if they guy you are guarding scores 21.
It’s too bad it didn’t work out, but at this point a transfer is probably the best for both parties.
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I agree
Not surprised, but it’s gotta be tough for a highly recruited guy like that to come to a school and not get his chance……or maybe he didn’t make the most of his chance. Either way, I feel bad for him and wish him the best.
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
Seeley
Yeah, I’m not going to miss him at all. Good luck at Louisiana Tech or something, man.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 28, 2010 5:51 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, I feel like he gets a little place in Cal history for that. One of the two or three best Cal basketball games I have watched.
by Tedfordisgod on Mar 28, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't say I'm surprised by this
I expected more minutes from him this year, and it just didn’t materialize. And my enduring memory of the year from him, unfortunately, was Monty exhorting him to get back on defense in the Arizona game at Haas when Seeley was slow to get back.
I’m not a basketball savant by any means, but it never really seemed to me that D.J. fit in with Monty’s program. I had hoped that MAYBE Seeley would fill the P-Chris role next year, but obviously that won’t happen now.
Good luck to Seeley, wherever he lands.
I am a Vereenian.
What recruits seem plausible at this point?
I saw Jamie Adams (Jerome Randle’s mirror image little brother) is still looking for D-I offers. Vid of him looks really good-looks just like JR out there. I don’t know if he’s on Monty’s radar. According to ESPN.com, we are considering a PG, Thomas Feeney, from Alaska. Anyone have any info/vids on him?
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Some of those highlights are uncannily similar to Jerome
It’s kind of freaky, actually.
I guess we can’t really expect him to develop 30-foot range on his jumpshots, though.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
I don't know how to read out of this
but whenever I saw Seeley on campus, he kinda of seemed out of it. Not that a guy needs to constantly enthusiastic about the college he was attending but I don’t know if he really liked it here. I even congratulated him after the team won the championship title and he gave me a half-hearted thank-you. You combine that with his lack of playing time and one can see why he made this decision. I don’t maybe it’s too much to analysis for a little body language.
What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?
Saw it coming
He was not Monty’s guy at all. Got very limited playing time and had no defined role on the team. When Monty was repeatedly saying “we are not a deep team” going into the tournament he clearly meant that DJ was not an option for increased playing time. Nikola said toward the end of the season that Monty had offered to help him transfer before last season rather than ride the pine and the same conversation might have been had with DJ. He so clearly was not a guy that Monty was interested in developing.
But lets face it: in the minutes he got this year he was mediocre. He hoisted up shots instantly when he touched the ball and his intensity was below average. Perhaps he never got into a rhythm. But I see a Monty team with Jorge, Markhuri, Omonde (personally I think he will be back) and Harper,as a nucleus of smashmouth basketball. Maybe even throw Max in there. Clearly there are some holes, but DJ was probably not going to fit in.
He always struck me as a "Ben Braun player" and not a Montgomery player
Ben Braun players: lots of athleticism, little work on defense, and jack up a lot of shots.
Montgomery players: Minimal emphasis on athleticism, lots of emphasis on defense, play within the offense.
Frankly, given that Ben Braun is a much worse coach than Montgomery, I’m not terribly sorry to see “his kind of players” go. Seeley is about the last one of those, except maybe Amoke (who might be gone too).
I assumed entering this year that Seeley would transfer if he didn’t get major minutes, not so much because he was an attention whore as just because it would be symptomatic of him not fitting into the future plans of the team. Sometimes guys just need a different situation to blossom (eg Josh Akognon at Fullerton rather than Washington State).
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
I agree on most of what you said, except for the minimal emphasis on athleticism… To me it looks as though Monty cares deeply for athleticism and wants his teams to be both aggressive and well conditioned in case they are put into an injury situation like this past season.
To me, DJ Seeley never fit in well with this team. He seemed to be a good kid but had a ho-hum attitude about being at Cal. I hope he finds what he is looking for elsewhere and has a career he can be proud of.
Hopefully his departure will also result in picking up another big guy for this upcoming class.
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by CruzinBears on Mar 29, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Randle and PChris always talked about how they would tell him that “he had to wait his turn.” Perhaps he wanted playing time right away as he might have gotten if he had gone to Memphis/UCLA/etc.
just a case of bad fitment, i guess?
no cal bear? no care
by EchoOfSilence on Mar 29, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess, maybe he thought coming out of high school as such a heralded recruit that he could go pro in a year or two? who knows… hopefully he finds what he is looking for
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by CruzinBears on Mar 29, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
He wasn't THAT heralded...
Four-star shooting guards rarely make it to the NBA, on a percentage basis… maybe, what, ten percent of them end up getting drafted? Twenty, at the outside? And most of those are seniors in the second round.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
I don't really think of conditioning as "athleticism" in that sense
To me, athleticism is more about how high you can jump, how quickly you can change directions, etc etc.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
I see what you mean, I guess I just don’t see how there has been a difference in approach… We will know more as we actually see Monty’s classes play… But I remember his fUrdy classes always being pretty athletic
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I really don’t think what you’re seeing in Monta vs. Braun is really emphasizing different traits – when it comes down to it, athleticism (including size, bulk/strength, length, quickness, jumping, etc) is probably the single most important thing that determines how good a player is, and they both want athletes…..but the difference you’re seeing is that Braun is a better recruiter, but far, far worse coach. So it’s not that they want different types of players, its that Monty actually knows how to help his players develop as actual basketball players, whereas Braun’s guys are running around like a chicken with their head cut off – no purpose, no organization….if it was one of two guys doing that under Braun, it’d be one thing, but the entire team did that (even guys like Theo who had great HS coaching and came in understanding how to play already got visibly worse the longer he played under Braun).
It’s a difference in coaching ability, not necessarily a difference emphasis on a “type” of player.
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by Missing Barry on Mar 31, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
The Grass is Always Greener....
This is really not surprising. DJ left Tokay HS in Lodi after his JR year and moved to Modesto Christian for his SR year solely to play hoops.
Granted, he did sign with Braun, but you KNOW if you fit in sooner than this (3yrs i think, i’m 99% sure he’s a redshirt soph)
The 1% is correct
He’s a true sophomore. Otherwise there would be an extremely strong disincentive to him transferring, as he’d not only be sitting out a year but losing a year of actual eligibility as well.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
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