Elite 8 / Cal-BYU Women's NIT Open Thread
We're getting closer, Bears! Too bad St. Mary's is no longer with us, but we have 2 Regional Finals today, the East and the West, followed at 6pm by Cal hosting BYU in the WNIT West Regional Final.
At 1:30 PM PDT, we have Butler v. Kansas State:
Everybody gets it. It’s no longer fair or accurate to pat Butler on the head and portray the Bulldogs as that scrappy, plucky, mid-major underdog with more heart than hops and a dream that won’t die.
Yet for as far as they’ve come—not only this season but over the last several—it’s hard for this story not to feel a little warm ‘n fuzzy: The team that practices in the gym where they shot "Hoosiers" is one win from playing in the Final Four. In downtown Indianapolis, no less, only a few short miles from home.
Coming off a win over Syracuse, the fifth-seeded Bulldogs (31-4) put their 23-game winning streak on the line against No. 2 Kansas State on Saturday in the West Regional final. Winner moves on. Loser goes home. For Butler, of course, the destination will be the same either way.
"When we sat down and made goals and thought about the season, we said, `Why not shoot for the ultimate goal?"’ forward Matt Howard said.
Indeed, why not?
Though this is their first trip this far in the NCAA tournament, the Bulldogs have been on the national stage for more than a decade now.
They are quick, can shoot and play good defense, as they proved in their 63-59 win over top-seeded Syracuse. The prevailing wisdom before that game was that the team that shoots 34 percent from 3-point range would have to be even better—in every way—to stay on the court with the Big East regular-season champions.
Fact is, the Bulldogs weren’t all that wonderful, and didn’t have to be.
And at 4 PM, you have Kentucky v. West Virginia. The majority of people in the CGB Pick 'Em who didn't pick Kansas picked Kentucky. So, if Kentucky loses here, it's gonna be a wild finish:
John Calipari keeps the "for sale" signs angry Memphis fans once staked in his yard in his garage. He has them as reminders that, even when times are good, there were plenty of years when fans wanted him gone.
Calipari bristled when it was suggested he was the master of the quick fix, a coach able to turn around programs with a few prized recruits, some slick strategy, and then kick back and enjoy Final Four runs.
He rattled off his resume: Calipari needed four years at UMass to make the NCAA tournament; three at Memphis and then three more to get out of the second round; and his NBA career lasted all of two-plus seasons with the New Jersey Nets.
He’s always needed time to win games and win over fickle fans.
Just not this year. Not at Kentucky.
Calipari has built Kentucky into a championship program again, not a mere solid one that lagged in prestige and Final Four counts in the final years of the Tubby Smith era and then under Billy Gillispie. Calipari has the Wildcats (35-2) within one win of their first Final Four since winning the national championship in 1998.
Win an eighth national title in Indianapolis and Kentucky will be KENTUCKY again.
"We know that we’re part of history," forward Patrick Patterson said. "We’re part of a team that’s getting Kentucky back to the true place that the Kentucky program was in the past and should be from now on."
Then, at 6PM, we have Cal's WNIT quarterfinal matchup with BYU. Winner goes to the WNIT Final Four!
Time: 6:00 PM PST
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BYU finished the regular season in 2nd in the Mountain West before losing to surprise sweet 16 survivor San Diego St. (how about that alliteration!) in the semifinals of the MWC tournament. The Cougars don’t have any particularly impressive wins, but besides the above mentioned blowout loss to SDSU they were a generally consistent team all year.
Cal fans who have watched the entire NIT run may be distressed to learn that BYU is willing to shoot threes almost as often as UC Davis, and with greater accuracy. Jazmine Foreman and Haley Hall are two diminutive guards who will pull the trigger at any time, and Coriann Wood is a 6’1’’ forward who may create some matchup difficulties because she’s the most accurate 3 point shooter (44.7%, 11th in the country) Cal has faced all year long. Guard Mindy Bonham doesn’t shoot from behind the arc as often, but she makes up the rest of BYU’s core of four juniors who average between 11.2 and 8.9 points per game.
Despite all of that shooting, BYU is at their best when they play good defense. Unsurprising because of their lack of size, BYU cannot dominate a game on the glass the way Cal can. So to win they need to shoot reasonably well and hold their opponent on defense. BYU is at their worst when they can’t hit their threes or turn the ball over too much, or both. They managed to lose an early game against Washington almost entirely because of 31 turnovers, and in a number of other bad losses (Weber St., Wyoming, New Mexico twice) the Cougars shot 25% or worse from behind the arc.
Like every game against teams that aren’t ASU, UCLA and Stanford, Cal should dominate the glass. This game will almost certainly come down to defense. Cal has the guards with the speed, height, and defensive ability to really frustrate BYU’s shooters. The goal will be to force enough misses and turnovers to rebound BYU into submission. But the Cougars are a smart, veteran team that has generally been playing well over their last 6 games (wins over Utah, Arizona St., and NCAA tournament team TCU). They move the ball well and they play solid defense. This is probably the best team Cal has played thus far in the NIT, and a win won’t be easy.
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I hope Butler goes through, just to keep this thing interesting.
I just don’t want another traditional power winning the whole thing.
Traditional Powers
I guess we have three of them left with those being Kentucky, Duke and Michigan State. I wouldn’t really consider Kansas State or West Virginia a traditional power. Butler, Tennessee and Baylor aren’t traditional powers for sure.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 27, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
BUTLER!
Where’s Alfred Pennyworth when you need him?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Mar 27, 2010 4:48 PM PDT reply actions
So one half in, and WVU has zero made two-pointers
Has anyone ever seen this before? Has this ever happened in an NCAA tournament game before? ANY NCAA game at all before?
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
And to addto the paradox, they’re winning!
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by norcalnick on Mar 27, 2010 5:21 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Once Kentucky loses, my bracket will be officially f’ed.
Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.
Wait a minute…
Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.
by CalBandGreat on Mar 27, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Nope, nevermind. I’ve screwed.
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by CalBandGreat on Mar 27, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
0-19 from 3 for Kentucky
Holy wows.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Mar 27, 2010 5:58 PM PDT reply actions
Tip time for the women
Usual 4 freshmen plus Lexi starting lineup
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by norcalnick on Mar 27, 2010 6:05 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Is game on TV? or PRD’s channel?
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by CalBandGreat on Mar 27, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
9-2 bears
Byu starting cold from 3, a good sign
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by norcalnick on Mar 27, 2010 6:10 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Question
What round of the NIT is this?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 27, 2010 6:13 PM PDT reply actions
Elite 8 of a 64 team field
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by norcalnick on Mar 27, 2010 6:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Really?
There are 64 teams in the women’s NIT? I thought it’d be 32 just like the men’s field. I don’t think we need 64 “not invited teams” in a tournament.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 27, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
You don’t ‘need’ 32 either. It’s fun though
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by norcalnick on Mar 27, 2010 6:21 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Bledsoe and Wall
The two freshmen guards from Kentucky are a combined 5-for-14 from the free throw line.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 27, 2010 6:15 PM PDT reply actions
16-10 bears
Stallworth has 9 already and Cal is dominating the glass, but byu hit a couple deep 3’s to keep it close
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by norcalnick on Mar 27, 2010 6:16 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Looking at the PIck Em, if Kentucky loses (and they are down by like 13 with a few minutes left, so its trending that way), things are going to be weird.
Of the top 50 people, only 2 people will have winners who would be still alive (1 WVU, 1 Duke). 50-100 only have 3 more people with winners who would be still alive (3 more WVUs).
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My whole final four is screwed if Kentucky loses.
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by CalBandGreat on Mar 27, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
18-12 Cal with 7:50 left
Not much offense, but lots of good d from greif
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by norcalnick on Mar 27, 2010 6:27 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Whoa a Cal mention
Last time West Virginia was in the Final Four we knocked them out!
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by Avinash Kunnath on Mar 27, 2010 6:34 PM PDT reply actions
26-18 bears, 4 left in the half
Bears going small with Brandon and Stallworth on the bench with 2 fouls each
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by norcalnick on Mar 27, 2010 6:35 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
33-28 cal at the half
Byu went on a run with Stallworth on the bench. Cal needs to defend the 3 better – BYU got many open looks and Cal was lucky they didn’t sink more.
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by norcalnick on Mar 27, 2010 6:44 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
36-30 Cal
16 left in the game
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by norcalnick on Mar 27, 2010 7:05 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
52-39 Cal with 11 left
Big run fueled by Lexi and DeNesha, plus good defense
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by norcalnick on Mar 27, 2010 7:15 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
61-45 Cal
Bears are rebounding byu to death – IThink we’re averaging 1.5 offensiveboards a possession and killing the clock.
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by norcalnick on Mar 27, 2010 7:27 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
This team is starting to look like the monster we want them to be next year.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Mar 27, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Nick thanks for all the updates! This team is looking better and better every game.
by paleodan on Mar 27, 2010 7:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Victory!
Overheard that we’re probably going to Illinois next
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by norcalnick on Mar 27, 2010 7:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
No neutral court finals for the WNIT, eh?
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
Cool
big win for the Bears…nice to see they’re still rolling…Final Four!

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