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"Study" Claims Cal has Zero Graduation Rate in Basketball

A "study" (using the term generously) by The Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sport (TIDES) at the University of Central Florida that looks at graduation rates claims that Cal has a zero graduation success rate for black and white basketball players entering school from 1999-2002, with an overall graduation rate of 20%. Meanwhile, Cal has an APR of 944 for the period from 2004-2008, well above the 925 number that can result in scholarship reductions and other penalties. So it seems as though for more recent years the graduation rate is better. The "study" notes that a 925 APR score is equivalent to an NCAA GSR rate of approximately 60 percent.

The Institute reviewed 2002‐03 graduation (six‐year) rates, with a four class average (freshman classes of, 1999‐2000, 2000‐01, 2001‐02, and 2002‐03). The APR data in this study does not include data from the 2008‐09 academic performances of the teams, but instead uses the four‐year data from the 2004‐05, 2005‐06, 2006‐07, and 2007‐08 academic years.

The "study" lists Cal as having an overall overall student graduation rate of 80%. A related study looking at football graduation rates shows Cal has an overall football graduation rate of 64%, with 62% for black players and 69% for white players. These numbers are from 1999‐2003, so that covers some pre-Tedford recruiting classes. The overall football graduation rate from the bowl teams in 2009-2010 is 65%, with 58% for black players and 77% for white players.

Now, getting back to basketball. Is the data correct that Cal did not have a single black or white basketball player graduate who enrolled from 1999-2002? I thought for sure that at least Gabriel Hughes, Amit Tamir, Richard Midgley, and Rod Benson graduated. Is this wrong or is the NCAA data messed up? Maybe others graduated as well. I don't know if signed players who didn't even enroll count in the data, but players who transfer and graduate somewhere else do not count against the graduation rate.

The only thing I can conclude from this study and the graduation rates in general is that Ben Braun was not only a bad coach on the court, but was a failure when it came to the academic progress of his players. The program was in such disarray that many of the players he recruited did not even have a chance to graduate.

1999: Donte Smith [enrolled spring 1999], Joe Shipp, ShanTay Legans, Brian Wethers, Nick Vander Laan

2000: Saulius Kuzminskas, Gabriel Hughes, Michael Lawson

2001: Jamal Sampson, Julian Sensley, Erik Bond, Amit Tamir

2002: Richard Midgley, David Paris, Rod Benson, Jordi Geli Vilardell, Kennedy Winston

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Pretty hard to argue that this group of players had little success. The Shipp/Weathers duo was particularly effective.

As far as whether they graduated, I have no idea, but I find it VERY hard to believe none of them graduated.

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by BeastMode on Mar 17, 2010 4:17 PM PDT reply actions  

We have 0% black and 0% white, but 20% overall? I didn’t realize our ethnic diversity was such that we had a lot of non-whites and non-blacks on the team. Moreover, what is the definition here? Is Amit Tamir white?

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 4:20 PM PDT reply actions  

David Paris is French, Richard Midgley is English, and Amit Tamir is Israeli. Done, there are your graduates, right?

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by BeastMode on Mar 17, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Amit can also be an Israeli name? I didn’t realize that.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

You didn’t know Amit Tamir!?!?!?!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sadly, I didn’t pay much attention to Cal sports when I was a student.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um, isn’t David Paris Bubba Paris’s kid? As in, Californian? And he transferred, but I think in poor academic standing, so he’s one of the black kids getting the 0%.

As for the others, be careful not to confuse ethnicity with race; being from another country doesn’t change their races. Were there a couple of Asians somewhere? Walk-ons, maybe?

I found this article detailing some of this problem, and who all the players were who came in those years.

by Scootie on Mar 17, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meant to say… that article is from the old version of this very blog!

by Scootie on Mar 17, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, his last name is Paris, C’MON!

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by BeastMode on Mar 17, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

joke…? what is…joke…?

by paleodan on Mar 17, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tamir left school and went back to Israel for military service before graduation.

by Scootie on Mar 17, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

long range unguided missiles?

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Remember Oregon.

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by BeastMode on Mar 17, 2010 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

No that was Shahar Gordon not Tamir who went back to the IDF.

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by CaliforniaEternal on Mar 17, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, you are right. I am getting my Israelis confused.

by Scootie on Mar 17, 2010 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wanted to know how they classified Amit Tamir as well. Perhaps international athletes are lumped in the other category? Maybe the group of intellectuals at the NCAA looked into whether he was Ashkenazi or Sephardic. Either way, that would probably qualify him as white.

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by CaliforniaEternal on Mar 17, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Couldn’t Sephardic inch him closer to being Middle Eastern?

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Being Sephardic [descended from the Jews expelled from Spain in 1492] would make him closer to Latino. Many of those Jews joined communities in Middle Eastern countries. He could also be descended from any number of other groups more native to the Middle East in North Africa, the Levant, Arabian Peninsula, Caucusus region, India, Iran, Afganistan, etc…the real question is, did Tamir graduate?

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by CaliforniaEternal on Mar 17, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Somebody had to be that 20%!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of the group listed, I think only three graduated.

Basketball players rarely stay here long enough to earn their degree…

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by gigglingone on Mar 17, 2010 5:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Randle Nikola Boykin P. Chris Theo

and Ryan Anderson’s starting salary is probably a good reason to have left without graduating.

The 2000’s Braun teams were poor academically – but I fail to see what has to do with the here and now. Why does it take 8 years to release a study that can be run through in about 3 weeks with some excel tables and heavy data entry?

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because a kid who entered school in 2002 had until 2008 to graduate?

by Scootie on Mar 17, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

You and your logic. I’M TRYING TO RANT HERE!!!!

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

That doesn’t explain the last 2 years of lag…

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, sorry…carry on!

by Scootie on Mar 17, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looking at this list

Vanderlaan: transferred to UVa (and then to Concordia U. after that)
Legans: transferred to Fresno State
Lawson: I want to say he transferred, but I have no specific recollection
Sampson: left early for NBA
Sensley: Did he ever enroll? He ended up at Hawaii
Bond: transferred (Saint Mary’s, I believe)
Winston: Never enrolled, right? I thought he was released from his LOI and then ended up at Alabama.

So if these guys count against our totals, that’s already 7 players who count against us, without even knowing which of the rest got their degrees.

Did Kuzminskas or Geli ever play for us? I’m thinking no.

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 6:46 PM PDT reply actions  

So, ifI understand you correctly, the problems stem less from academic problems and more from Braun’s odd Player Transferring syndrome.

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, the methodology specifically excludes players who left early for the NBA, and who transferred while in good academic standing. So it appears we might genuinely have sucked at graduating players. :-(

That being said, it makes me exceedingly happy that apparently all five of our current seniors are on track to graduate in May. Let’s keep the problem fixed.

by Scootie on Mar 17, 2010 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish they would provide a list of all players who stayed for their time, did not go pro, did not transfer, and failed to graduate. Get rid of all these other aspects that do not relate to anything with academics and just look at academics. Played for 4-5 years, never graduated.

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

On track to graduate?

What’s the source for “all five of our current seniors are on track to graduate in May”? That’s awesome, but how do we know?

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by Calfan on Mar 18, 2010 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Montgomery has said it more than once in interviews.

by Scootie on Mar 18, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

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by Calfan on Mar 19, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am interested in writing a post on this. Can you kindly email me, Scootie, I’d like to discuss your findings. goldenblogs at gmail dot com.

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by TwistNHook on Mar 18, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, will do.

Meanwhile, here’s an actual accredited media link to the “everyone’s graduating this year” thing.

by Scootie on Mar 18, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think that academics may have been related to transfers. I think Braun was overrated in his ability to run a clean program. Graduating a reasonable percentage of your players is one part of a ‘clean’ program, at least in my opinion.

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by norcalnick on Mar 17, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sensley never enrolled, went to prep school then Hawai’i. You’re right on with Winston: released from LOI, enrolled at Alabama as a Freshman.

I forget if Kuzminskas played at all his freshman year — if so, it wasn’t much, and then he went back to Serbia(?). Don’t know what happened with Geli after he took a medical retirement — maybe he stayed in school, maybe not.

Gabriel Hughes asked for his release to transfer, but Braun talked him out of it. Tamir was out of eligibility after three years, so he may have gone back to Europe to pursue basketball rather than stay for a fourth year to try and graduate.

Of the 17 players listed, only Shipp, Wethers, Hughes, Midgley and Benson played four years at Cal. Not to defend Braun’s graduation record, but of all these players, David Paris is the only one I can say definitely was an academic casualty.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Mar 17, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

1999:
Donte Smith
Joe Shipp

ShanTay Legans- transfer to Fresno
Brian Wethers
Nick Vander Laan- transfer to UVa

2000:
Saulius Kuzminskas- moved back to Europe
Gabriel Hughes
Michael Lawson- transfer to DVC

2001:
Jamal Sampson- NBA
Julian Sensley- never enrolled
Erik Bond- transfer to St. Mary’s
Amit Tamir- left after three years eligibility up

2002:
Richard Midgley
David Paris- academic fail
Rod Benson
Jordi Geli Vilardell- medical issues, probably moved back to Spain
Kennedy Winston- never enrolled

by paleodan on Mar 17, 2010 10:40 PM PDT reply actions  

So only eight guys are in the pool of “did not transfer or go to the NBA.” Or maybe the two Europeans who quit to go home are in the pool. That means out of those 10, only two graduated. Not so good… But who were the two who bothered to finish their degrees. Pretty sure one of those is Midgley, but wouldn’t he be in the “white” race category? Anyway…not so good.

by paleodan on Mar 17, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you telling me Brian Wethers never graduated?!?!?!?!?

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’re looking for two guys in the non-white and non-black category. What race was Brian Wethers?

by paleodan on Mar 17, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless I am blind, he was black. Midgley is English, does he count as “White”? I dunno how they set it up. Maybe the two non-Americans were the only ones to get their degree.

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m guessing one of the graduates was Ryan Forehan-Kelly, who started as a walkon and IIRC was of mixed race, making him fit in neither category.

by Scootie on Mar 18, 2010 1:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Insomnia freakin’ rocks.

A spot of research reveals to me that RF-K had a little bro who walked on too, who came to Cal in 2001. Tashaan’s player profile says that Ryan graduated in 2002, which made him a frosh in 98, a class ahead of this group we are talking about here. However, I wonder if Tashaan is one of the two?

Also, can confirm that they are mixed race.

Anybody have anything else they’d like researched between now and dawn? (sigh)

by Scootie on Mar 18, 2010 2:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can you help me find projected growth rates in China B to C e-commerce for 2010 and 2011 fiscal year -taking into account the growth of taobao mall and branded online stores?

by LeonPowe on Mar 18, 2010 3:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

9-10%. That’s not what it actually was but…you know.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 18, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

huh. Im showing growth rates of well over 100% a year. 9-10% is GDP based on the government building bridges and freeways and calling it “economic growth”

by LeonPowe on Mar 18, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

If memory serves, Tashaan Forehan-Kelly eventually transferred.

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 18, 2010 5:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

He did indeed. Pepperdine? Some smaller school in southern California, at least.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Mar 18, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

every time I hear "if memory serves me...." I think of

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 18, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, I loved Ryan Foreskin-Kelly!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 18, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe because he was so awesome, Wethers was considered a race unto himself.

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 18, 2010 5:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wethers was not a person, he was a giant bicep. Thats gotta be a separate race.

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by TwistNHook on Mar 18, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

maybe he's an octaroon

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by natteringnabob on Mar 18, 2010 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec’d for use of an archaic racial term

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by SoCal Oski on Mar 18, 2010 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

So, if this report is true and Cal had such a miserable graduation rate, how is it that the NCAA never did anything about it? I thought they were actively monitoring academic progress and would level some sort of penalties against under-performing schools? Or did they just figure that having Ben Braun was penalty enough?

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by SoCal Oski on Mar 18, 2010 7:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Your punishment is 6 more years of Ben Braun. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 18, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Basketball is a sport played by relatively few players

A good graduation rate from your football program, which Cal has, can bury a terrible grad rate from your basketball program by sheer weight of numbers.

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