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In honor of St. Patty's Day: Is it normal to drink every night? Does anybody else come home from work and enjoy a cold one?
Yes, if you like drinking.
This is the thing – drinking has always been normal in UK society because that is all we did. You could not trust the water, so you drank beer. Everyone drank beer – children included. All the time.
There’s that marvellous quote from the 1950s. If you had a car accident in London in the 1950’s, both of you would be drunk. The policeman who arrived would be drunk, as would the ambulance drivers. If it went to court the judge and jury would be drunk.
For most of human history where we have had the capacity to ferment or distill we have been drunk. All the fucking time.
In my parents time it was not unusual for them to drive home after all night parties, and have no recollection of getting home because they were so drunk. And that was the normal mode of behaviour.
So it is relatively recently that we have treated alcohol as a major social concern, and drinking every day being seen as ‘abnormal’. It was the norm. All day every day.
So have a drink if you like. I do.
Seems like a lot to some….
I come home from work and drink a minimum of a sixer ever night…. and have for about 35 years. On days off, I don’t drink before 3:00 in the afternoon. When I am doing things I enjoy, hunting, fishing, woodworking, etc., I rarely drink at all. Well…. fishing I may imbibe some, no more than a couple if I am driving my own boat. some say its a problem, but I make over 6 digits in a year in a highly stressful job, never been arrested, married for 20+ years, four successful kids that have never been abused… go figure. I love beer and brew my own. Make my own whiskey, grow my own…vegatables
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Re: that first comment from the UK… if you’re talking a pint or two a day, that’s one thing… but it’s often not that. My father started seeing death notices for guys he had apprenticed with when they were in their 40s, and more so in their 50s, and a lot of it was drinking, smoking, and shitty diet.
The amount of drinking that goes on in the UK, to this day, is frankly amazing, and the knock-on effects of it are enormous. They drink truly stunning amounts, and they drink to get drunk. Every night. Not at all a pint a day.
And it’s super pleasant when one is walking to the Tube in the morning, stepping over fresh piles of vomit every hundred yards or so.
It’s appalling. There have been times when I’ve considered trying to find a job in the UK, even if just for a few years, now that my kids are old enough to get something out of living there, but the drink culture would prompt me to get them back to the States really by the time they were middle-school aged.
I’ve had this argument so many times — realistically, I’m more worried about alcoholic tendencies in the guy who comes home from work and drinks a six pack every weeknight by himself than I am about the guys who go out and “binge drink” with their friends once or twice a week.
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is it that common for a full six-pack daily?
My friends – if they do drink daily – do a beer or two with dinner or watching tv.
I’m confused — when did I use the word “healthy”? Obviously, binge drinking isn’t healthy (it is awesome, however).
The point I’m making is that the latter group is the people you read about; whereas, I feel, the former group is more likely to actually become alcoholics.
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Clinically, binge drinking is a symptom and risk factor for alcoholism, even if it’s ‘only’ once a week.
If you’re defining the first group as a ‘guy who drinks a six-pack’ every day, he’s an alcoholic already. I think Joe Six-Pack is more likely a Middle American Rishi, who drinks beer instead of lemon drops on the weekends for whatever purposes.
You’d be surprised how common the “guy who drinks a six-pack a day” is.
I interviewed with Anheuser Busch my senior year for a marketing position; when discussing marketing strategies, etc. with the interviewer, he flatly stated that their target market for Bud Light is the man who drinks a six pack of beer every weekday at home.
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and WoW is marketing to the guy who plays 20 hours a day and has to order in food to survive.
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But while those are profitable, ideal customers, they’re not the norm.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Just pointing out that most people don’t drink an entire 6-pack daily. I think it’s more like a weekend thing, as someone else also suggested.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
But then we’re comparing weekend drinkers to weekend drinkers, which solves nothing.
There is a sizeable contingent of people who drink a six pack a day.
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Well, technically, the guy who has a couple beers by himself every night (to be fair, I’m downgrading from the sixpacker) is not binge drinking.
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Yeah, in that case the professionals would refer to weekly limits, instead of a limit for one sitting.
I was always under the impression that twelve drinks spread out over a seven day week is not binge drinking, while twelve drinks in one night is.
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I don’t remember the limits off the top of my head, but I think they’re a lot lower. Binge drinking (for a guy) is five drinks in a night, maybe?
I’m pretty sure Blizzard markets WoW at the exact opposite demographic, for obvious reasons (monthly subscription for unlimited play).
That’s just not so. The reason you hear about binge drinking is precisely because people used to ignore it as a sign of alcoholism, not because daily six packs are worse.
And I’m not denying that it could be a sign of alcoholism, but I fail to see how the gentleman who drinks a sixpack of beer by himself every weekday isn’t likely to become an alcoholic.
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Doesn’t this depend on your definition of alcoholism?
It seems like Rishi is right – drinking a six-pack every day seems more like a sign of addiction than drinking a larger amount less frequently.
Your stereotypical alcoholic is more likely to drink daily than not. But not drinking daily is not an indicator that someone is not an alcoholic. Rishi is essentially trying to move the goalposts around so that sad lonely beer drinkers are alcoholics and dashing young weekend drinkers can’t be.
Again, depends on your definition of alcoholism – I don’t know what the medical definition is, but the colloquial definition is somewhat ambiguous. If you’re talking about a physiological or psychological addiction to alcohol, it seems like there would be a correlation to frequency of use (although a lack of frequency isn’t necessarily an indication that someone isn’t an alcoholic, as you point out).
by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
IIRC, the DSM basically defines any addiction as one which negatively interferes with a person’s life. Here is a handy summation, where addiction is any 3 out of 7. (including increased tolerance, negative consequences, withdrawl and desire to cut down).
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Definition of Alcoholism — published by the Journal of the American Medical Association
" Alcoholism is a primary, chronic disease with genetic, psychosocial, and environmental factors influencing its development and manifestations. The disease is often progressive and fatal. It is characterized by continuous or periodic: impaired control over drinking, preoccupation with the drug alcohol, use of alcohol despite adverse consequences, and distortions in thinking, most notably denial ."
Disease means an involuntary disability. It represents the sum of the abnormal phenomena displayed by a group of individuals. These phenomena are associated with a specified common set of characteristics by which these individuals differ from the norm, and which places them at a disadvantage.
Often progressive and fatal means that the disease persists over time and that physical, emotional, and social changes are often cumulative and may progress as drinking continues. Alcoholism causes premature death through overdose, organic complications involving the brain, liver, heart and many other organs, and by contributing to suicide, homicide, motor vehicle crashes, and other traumatic events.
Impaired control means the inability to limit alcohol use or to consistently limit on any drinking occasion the duration of the episode, the quantity consumed, and/or the behavioral consequences of drinking.
Preoccupation in association with alcohol use indicates excessive, focused attention given to the drug alcohol, its effects, and/or its use. The relative value thus assigned to alcohol by the individual often leads to a diversion of energies away from important life concerns.
Adverse consequences are alcohol-related problems or impairments in such areas as: physical health (e.g., alcohol withdrawal syndromes, liver disease, gastritis, anemia, neurological disorders); psychological functioning (e.g., impairments in cognition, changes in mood and behavior); interpersonal functioning (e.g., marital problems and child abuse, impaired social relationships); occupational functioning (e.g., scholastic or job problems); and legal, financial, or spiritual problems.
Denial is used here not only in the psychoanalytic sense of a single psychological defense mechanism disavowing the significance of events, but more broadly to include a range of psychological maneuvers designed to reduce awareness of the fact that alcohol use is the cause of an individual’s problems rather than a solution to those problems. Denial becomes an integral part of the disease and a major obstacle to recovery.
This is so broad as to include about 50% of college students.
by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
that's correct
and a problem.
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by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Its not alchoholism until you’re out of college. At least thats what I kept telling myself for a good portion of my last 3 years in school.
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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Layman's Summary
When you can’t feel “normal” without a drink you are already way over the line. When you have screwed up either work, close relationships, or had legal trouble because of alcohol or (insert other substances here) 99% chance you belong in the “alcoholic” box.
Right, my point is, I think there are plenty of people who feel normal without a drink, haven’t screwed up any aspects of their lives due to alcohol, but still get wasted occasionally because they enjoy it.
I’m not saying this is healthy or should be encouraged, just that it seems to demonstrate less of a correlation to alcoholism than drinking by yourself every weekday would.
by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
But how occasional or regular is “occasionally”? I think if it’s a couple times a month or something, that’s one thing, but if it’s weekly or more, then that’s likely more serious and problematic.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m admittedly drawing an arbitrary line. Maybe you would draw a slightly different line, but you have to admit that the more frequent it is, the more likely it is that the person has a drinking problem. Getting blottoed, say, once a year is different than once a week.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Calling weekly+ binge drinking “likely… problematic” is a loaded charge?
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, I can’t go to cracked.com. I’ll have to look at it later.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
It essentially talks about how using “likely” or “some people” or those kind of ways allow you to make a loaded charge without actually making a loaded statement.
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For example…. how it’s likely that some people think you’re an alcoholic? :)
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
:(
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I really just want to place additional emphasis on the drinking by yourself vs drinking with friends part.
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Ok, drop the “by yourself” from my previous comment. Just frequency.
by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Because you identify with the latter group?
Both descriptions trouble me, frankly. I don’t mind having a glass of wine, or a beer, or something like that with dinner from time to time, or going out and having a drink in a bar or a restaurant occasionally, but I very, very rarely consume enough to reach the point of intoxication.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I guess not!
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
People who brag about how infrequently they drink are just as bad about those who brag about how much they drink
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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
You’re missing the point entirely. It’s not that drinking is always bad or wrong, but it’s that it’s unhealthy to drink large amounts all at once, and on a regular basis, and that the regularity/frequency is what makes one’s relationship with alcohol something to question or possibly be worried about.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, it is unhealthy to drink a lot. I don’t think even Rishi would dispute that.
by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t just mean physically unhealthy, though. Look, if someone wants to get wasted from time to time, on a special occasion maybe, or let’s say they really wanted to let loose on a particular weekend or something, sure, it may be physically unhealthy, but I don’t think it’s a big deal. If they’re doing it every Friday/Saturday night for example, I think that’s a troubling and unhealthy relationship with alcohol. That’s all I’m saying.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
At this point, you’re just putting your own personal opinion out there and then making judgements based on it.
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Duh.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, we’ve both just been giving opinions.. if you’ve got an objective standard upon which you would like to base the discussion, by all means feel free.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Hah!
But if I’m the one with no friends, how come you’re the one with the drinking problem? :)
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Sort of on topic and sort of not: a bit of family history. One of my mom’s uncle (so my great-uncle?) was a chronic alcoholic. He drank A LOT. And not just your six pack every night but rather the hard stuff. His wife got fed up with him and instead of divorce like would probably happen here she committed suicide. Their kids were barely in their teens (I was about 5 or 6 I think). After which he became horribly depressed and drank more and more despite everyone including his own daughter trying to stop him. Eventually he passed away (I think about 11 or so years ago) due to liver failure (cirrhosis?) and my maternal grandfather and other family members basically took the kids in and helped them. Due to this history my mom is extremely against drinking anything. I think the whole experience has turned her in a way that she cannot take a reasonable look at alcohol. Everytime I tell my parents “hey I’m going out tonight” even now my mom gets worried and makes me promise to not drink. I always feel guilty for lying. Odd thing is that even I used to be against drinking until I got to college having seen someone ruin lives due to alcohol. It was a horrible experience.
tl;dr
In other words, Go Bears!
Did he ever go a day without drinking and suffer withdrawals or even DT’s, which can be deadly? I always thought it was crazy that hardcore alcoholics could potentially die from suddenly stopping the booze.
Don’t remember too many details about that stuff (I just remember how mellow and jolly he was when he was sober and how agitated he was drunk). I was 9 when I last saw him after all.
In other words, Go Bears!
So sad :( As cheesy as it sounds, it seems the key to enjoying things like alcohol as with most other things is moderation. Of course, that doesn’t mean I never have nights where I’m throwing up in bushes. The evening of this past football seasons ’SC game being a fine example..
I can agree with this.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I got similar static from my mother a couple of years after her father died, when she decided to unleash many years’ worth of anger on a variety of people – or as I like to call it, the summer of being accused of being an alcoholic. My brother and I wouldn’t have more than 1 drink in front of her for a couple of years until she got through it.
When bad boys come on strong, they usually get the girl. When nice guys come on strong, they look desperate, clingy and needy. Why?
Because bad boys are able to project that they are fine whether or not they get the girl. Nice guys come off like they really, really need to get the girl to be happy.
The best way to come across like the bad guy without actually being the bad guy is to be happy with your life, so that you really are OK whether or not you get the girl. They can sense it.
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or a bad boy who buys a girl a drink
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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Rishi, I’m curious. Is this “I don’t buy girls drinks” thing a joke, or are you really truly honestly opposed to ever paying for a girl’s drink?
Depends. If a girl is my friend, I will voluntarily buy her a drink.
But, yes, I’m not a fan of paying for the drink of a random girl, so I just don’t do it.
Girls buying me drinks, however, are welcome.
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Are you opposed to it or you think it’s ineffective?
by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Honestly, buying a drink for a girl you randomly meet in a bar is a truly stupid idea. Buying drinks for friends is completely awesome, even buying drinks for friend’s friend is fine, it is just the truly random ones that it is completely dumb.
I’m pretty sure nobody actually disagrees with this argument.
by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I actually agree with you for the most part. I don’t know if I would make it a die hard rule like you have, but I definitely agree with the principle. You shouldn’t have to ante up just to chat withi a girl.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions
shhh
you’re ruining a business model
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by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
see..i don't know....
if i’m ordering myself another round, and her’s is empty, i will usually offer to buy hers also….
the difference here i guess is that I am not interested in any more than polite drunken conversation.
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by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
the difference here i guess is that I am not interested in any more than polite drunken conversation.
Then why are you buying her drinks?!
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Courtesy and good-naturedness?
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
yep.
A gentleman buys drinks for those in conversation with, girls or boys.
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by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
? random what?
if i go to a bar by myself to kill a couple hours chatting up the alkies there…..i’m as likely to buy a round as not.
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by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
exactly.
so this happens like once a year.
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by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions
People mispredict what makes them happy
What have you predicted would make you happy…but didn’t?
The researchers wrote up their findings on the lottery winners and the accident victims in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology. The paper is now considered one of the founding texts of happiness studies, a field that has yielded some surprisingly morose results. It’s not just hitting the jackpot that fails to lift spirits; a whole range of activities that people tend to think will make them happy—getting a raise, moving to California, having kids—do not, it turns out, have that effect. (Studies have shown that women find caring for their children less pleasurable than napping or jogging and only slightly more satisfying than doing the dishes.) As the happiness researchers Tim Wilson and Daniel Gilbert have put it, "People routinely mispredict how much pleasure or displeasure future events will bring."
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The older I get, the more I find “stuff” oppressive. I’m not saying that’s caused an overall drop in materialism, but it bothers me much less when I can’t swing a new toy and my expectations are lower.
It’s always been a mystery to me why people think that children will make them happy. Apparently they’ve never asked themselves whether the adults in their lives make them happy – and children don’t have the benefit of years of socialization and relative independence in getting through the day and life.
Genetic programing to procreate? Plus every parent who has grown kids says its the most rewarding thing in the world – so there is social reinforcement for that as well.
I like some of the adults in my life! You can count as half a person, since I don’t really know you. (But if I go to DC can I stay on your couch? j/k)
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I’m not saying it isn’t rewarding, and that there aren’t moments and times that make me happy to have the kids about the place. However, fielding shrieking fits about there not being enough purple clothing to put together a coordinated outfit (the seven year old, Monday) or the precise placement of hair clips (the five year old, yesterday) are not the stuff of happy dreams. It’s just a case of having realistic expectations.
As for the couch, I think you’d be better off in the guest room in your state. I don’t know how my wife will feel about putting up a complete stranger, but after the 10 day visit from a fellow camp counselor last summer, I think she’s lost hand on this issue.
You’ve got so much hand, you’re coming out of your gloves?
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by Maisbikkja on Mar 17, 2010 9:04 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Plus every parent who has grown kids says its the most rewarding thing in the world
They’re hardly likely to admit the opposite even if it were true.
rewarding, absolutely
make you happy? f* no.
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s always been a mystery to me why people think that children will make them happy.
I guess I’d say that children can make you happy, but unlike a bite of chocolate or skydiving or some other immediate stimulus that floods your brain with “reward” compounds, having children has its share of immediate downsides, too. Expecting that children will make your life happy 100% of the time is folly; having kids is like owning a car or a computer. Some aspects of them will make you extremely happy (speeding through the country, connecting with an old friend via facebook are like watching a baby’s first steps or seeing them learn how to catch a ball). A lot of aspects will also make you want to kill yourself and everything around you (broken transmission, comp crashes are like your kid diarrheaing on the sofa or failing at school). Either way, all three involve constant learning, upgrading, and attention.
All three will bring happiness and at times make you happier. But they’re equally capable of doing exactly the opposite. I suppose the tipping point are the biological pressures generations of evolution have brought about in order to make you further your seed.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Well said.
plus sex is fun.
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by AndBears on Mar 17, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
wooooo sex!
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by GoldBlooded on Mar 17, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but that’s why God invented birth control.
by Scootie on Mar 17, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If god invented birth control, why are the Catholics so against it?
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
every sperm is great…
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by GoldBlooded on Mar 17, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
So are wet dreams considered crimes against Spermanity?
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
what is this “sex” you speak of?
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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I think that’s what people like us did with the missus before we had children.
by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
my children were immaculately conceived.
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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Not quite. Good swimmers though.
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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
They hate fish but love bread
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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
…Your bed was clean?
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
moving to California
Interesting that California is still supposed to be a dream land. I think this is only true for the educated and/or wealthy. Most of the people who have left California during the recession have been poorly educated or lower income, though I’m too lazy to find that study.
- California has been seen either as a Utopia/Distopia since its discovery. The kingdom of Queen Califia or Calafia, according to Montalvo, was said to be a remote land inhabited by griffins and other strange beasts and rich in gold, but also ruled by huge dark-skinned women.
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Most of the people who have left California during the recession have been poorly educated or lower income,
This is true of any place.
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Most of the people who have left California during the recession have been poorly educated or lower income,
This is true of any place.
Eh? What about “brain drain?” Chinese/Indians to the US for higher education, for example.
Most of the people who have left California during the recession have been poorly educated or lower income, though I’m too lazy to find that study.
Really? That actually surprises me. I always figured that the people most likely to leave California were the rich white suburbanites who got sick of the traffic and the commute, the crappy infrastructure, and the poor people, and who moved away to someplace like Texas, Colorado, or Montana.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was surprised too, since the prevailing (Republican) opinion is that the high tax rate in California will force wealthy people out of the state. But maybe not so surprisingly, wealthy people can enjoy themselves here and aren’t as affected by the high cost of living.
Tax flight is largely a myth. There’s a reason why there are shitloads of rich people and businesses in California or New York and not so many in Alabama or North Dakota – clearly there are other variables at play when people decide where to live besides state income tax rate.
by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Educated white people have been leaving the state in droves, for years, to Washington, Colorado, and Oregon, particularly in the mid 80s and early 90s. I suspect another wave is coming.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh no! Not the educated white people!?!?! Whatever will we do without the educated white people?!?!?!
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Poor white people, having to deal with all of us ignorant minorities.
by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
tell me about it!
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by GoldBlooded on Mar 17, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
It’s just what’s been happening, I didn’t include editorializing…sorry if you dislike it.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Why would I dislike a demographic trend? I just find your obsession with race bizarre.
by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Here’s an interesting map (click on California for the state statistics) which outlines inflow and outflow for each state by race and ethnicity from 2005-2007.
The group which is leaving in the highest percentages? Hispanics. However, we currently have outward migration trends for all ethnicities.
Also interesting to note on the third tab of that report, California is a very sticky state, meaning people who are born here tend to stay. Being one of them, this does not surprise me in the least. I like to say we just need another decent sized quake to get the rest of the New Jersey-ites out…
by Scootie on Mar 17, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This doesn’t surprise me, for reasons that will get me called racist and HP’s panties deep in a knot.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude, you dont wear panties. You are all about the grape smugglers
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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Does that make your pubic hair burst out of the sides?
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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Tell Twist to unknot his banana hammock then. Not my fault he is hirsute
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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
as a native also....
i can’t wait for the big one.
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by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
That statement is a flaming petard, waiting for you to be hoisted upon it. Or if you want to think of it in terms of the familiar, you’re provoking Earthquake Juju.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
kinda.
about 1/2 return with in 5 yrs. because while many of those places are kinda nice…..they are not generally as nice as CA most of the time.
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by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Can someone answer this question for me?
From the blurb written for Anna Sharevich:
Anna a Belarusian chessmaster, having achieved the required norms for the title Woman Grandmaster in 2006. She won the Ladies’ Belarusian Chess Championship in 2002, 2005 and 2007 and played for Belarus in the Woman’s Chess Olympiad of 2002 to 2008 (four times). She’s smart, blonde, sultry, and can kick your sub-mental ass!
She is a “Woman Grandmaster”? And there is a “Ladies” Championship and “Woman’s” Olympiad? (I also saw for the woman listed # 1 on the list won the 2008 “Women’s World Championship.”).
My queston: WHY the need for separate “women’s” chess competitions? What am I missing here?
Full disclosure: When I was in junior high, I was a borderline fat nerd player on the chess team and we competed at nationals. While the overwhelming majority of the players were boys, there were quite a few girls who competed. No separate competition or separate “girls” teams.
I am a Vereenian.
Did you click the link? Look at the last two.
These are two of the “sexiest” female chess players.
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Right, because they aren’t 9.874 quality, they can’t count.
I assume they skipped this young lady from the UAE out of fatwa fears:

mmmmmmmm
she can castle my king any time…
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by GoldBlooded on Mar 17, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
No. If you don’t find her attractive, that’s no skin off my nose.
However:
Context? I’m objectively stating that she is not sexy.
I’ll spot you that I could have been more clear by expanding on the word “context” to emphasize that I meant “for a chess player.” However, you cannot objectively state that she is not attractive, inasmuch as there are no common metrics for same.
That’s racis
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m saddened that nobody called me out on my checkers knowledge.
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Rishi, I know you'd tag it. Stop pretending you have standards.....
by 33SwisherSweet on Mar 17, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Dealings with your wife aside, I do have standards.
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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I pray we never meet in person because I don't need to spend any time in clink for
“Batterizing” your bitch ass.
by 33SwisherSweet on Mar 17, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
It's tired. I stay away from the indian/family jokes but if you want to open that box you are gonna get your curry lovin' ass whooped.
by 33SwisherSweet on Mar 17, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Rishi, excuse my absence. I just got back from waxin' your mom.
Damn, that was some good stuff.
by 33SwisherSweet on Mar 17, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Old
both this joke… and Rishi’s mother… who is a beautiful woman btw
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Can I let you know when you come up with something funny?
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No, I’m going to need third-party verification that you have come up with something funny before you can notify me.
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But that was your original bargaining position!
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I thought you were finding an impediment to Twist rendering judgment on the quality of your humor.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Dude, I hear if you punch the computer screen the other person can feel it in real life. Go for it!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
And who left a mushroom print on my screen …? WTF?
by sec119 on Mar 17, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow. Knight to Q-4, Mate!
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
What's Wrong with the U.S. Education System? - Parental Neglect! If the parent is not participating, the kids stand little chance. Even 10:1 student to teacher ratios, kids will fail without parental concern.
40 minute video on public education in America. It seems taking a proactive stance on your kid’s education is a good way to get them going.
I am convinced parental participation is the key. Every kid with a parent that shows up at the school activities with their kid has a kid performing at par or better. Kids do not have the discipline to force themselves to do what’s good for them in the long run. In fact, their brains are not fully developed in the frontal lobes until their twenties, which is the area that comprehends and acts with adult reasoning.
If the parent is not participating, the kids stand little chance. Even 10:1 student to teacher ratios, kids will fail without parental concern.
Thus, when you see a kid that escapes dire childhood circumstances, it’s usually the result of an influential adult that cared far beyond what’s typical for that dismal environment.
I think Bill Cosby got it right a few years ago. If the parents create a bad environment, set bad examples, and cannot succeed themselves, the vast majority of kids will follow a similar path with similar results.
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by Avinash on Mar 17, 2010 4:38 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
This is probably true but definitely problematic, because it’s a reminder that you can only hold schools accountable for so much in terms of test results. Some people use it as an argument that school funding should be cut, but if anything it’s an argument for massively increasing resources for schools in poor neighborhoods… there’s a school in DC that’s been really successful in turning kids around, because they keep them for at least 10 hours a day and provide supervision for homework, additional tutoring. etc.
But that’s difficult because of the way that most schools are funded (property tax) and the distinct zero-sum mentality that people bring to the table about school funding when there’s a hint of variations in how the funding is distributed.
So if we want to better educate our kids, work weeks should lower to 30 hours a week? perhaps, maintaining the 40 would be a better start?
THIS TIMES A BILLION TRILLION ZILLION FILLION. GOD YES SOMEONE GETS IT.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Bill Cosby got it right a few years ago. If the parents create a bad environment, set bad examples, and cannot succeed themselves, the vast majority of kids will follow a similar path with similar results.
I think Bill Cosby got it right a few years ago. If the parents create a bad environment, set bad examples, and cannot succeed themselves, the vast majority of kids will follow a similar path with similar results.
I think Bill Cosby got it right a few years ago. If the parents create a bad environment, set bad examples, and cannot succeed themselves, the vast majority of kids will follow a similar path with similar results.
I think Bill Cosby got it right a few years ago. If the parents create a bad environment, set bad examples, and cannot succeed themselves, the vast majority of kids will follow a similar path with similar results.
I think Bill Cosby got it right a few years ago. If the parents create a bad environment, set bad examples, and cannot succeed themselves, the vast majority of kids will follow a similar path with similar results.
I think Bill Cosby got it right a few years ago. If the parents create a bad environment, set bad examples, and cannot succeed themselves, the vast majority of kids will follow a similar path with similar results.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
only with too much ZIP ZOP FLIM FLAM WITH THE SHAMMALAMMA
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking more

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Parents are the kid’s #1 teacher. Unfortunately, many parents are stupid.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually, involved parents are apparently able to help their children a lot even if they ARE stupid
eg illiterate homeschooling parents successfully teaching their children to read.
That being said, it’s hard to blame many parents for not being more involved when they’re struggling just to keep their economic heads above water.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
eh.
my take is that there are to many cultural distractions that parents use as an excuse to not work with their kids.
i.e., TV, innernet foolishnes, etc.
we boot families from our school when the parents are unwilling to help the kids at home.
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by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, God forbid they want to work a 60-hour week instead of an 80-hour week
Jesus. What a bunch of fucking slackers.
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
i'm talking about the ones with stay at home moms
who still can’t take a half an hour to run times tables with their 3rd grader.
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by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps you didn’t catch this before, but Rocksanddirt’s kids go to a Waldorf school, and part of the operating principle is family involvement both at home and in the school. If you send your kids to a Waldorf school and don’t participate, you’re just swiping time from other people.
And it doesn’t take 20 hours a week to reinforce primary education.
Sure it does: 10 hours spent playing the recorder and 10 hours of eurythymy.
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The gestures that build the basic movement repertoire of a eurythmist are connected to the sounds and rhythms of language, to the tonal experience of music, to fundamental soul experiences (such as joy and sorrow). Once this fundamental repertoire is mastered, it can be composed into free artistic expressions. The eurythmist also works to cultivate a feeling for the qualities of straight lines and curves, the directions of movement in space (forward, backward, up, down, left, right), contraction and expansion, and color.
Heck, this could easily take 20 hours a week all by itself!
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I don’t know, those aren’t what you’d call exacting specifications. A couple shimmies and deep knee bends might suffice.
He went to USC — he can only have so much of a human connection.
by Yes We Cannon on Mar 17, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I have the spiritual sensitivity of a small rock. A former office mate, who was very Catholic and concerned about the state of my eternal soul, once described me as “invincibly ignorant,” which she claimed was some sort of canon law label for people of limited metaphysical scope. I remain convinced she was trying to make sure that she could insult me with impunity by citing religious harassment if I complained.
I’m going to have to yield to Rocksanddirt on this one, because I don’t want to be accused of being a troglodyte again on this particular subject.
For those of us who consign our children to public schools, you can assume that there’s no need for 20 hours of toneless cacophony or getting on of the groove.
Clearly you need to start spending evenings together as a family playing the recorder and cultivating a feeling for the qualities of straight lines.
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Oboes are nice.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
i'm told starting the oboe is a lot
like dental work without anethstesia, and using tools from home depot.
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by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
if people spent the hours they now spend on american idol
on their kids education…..this would be a different country.
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by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
This is so true. My mom is a high school math teacher (also used to to teach Chemistry at one point) in a San Jose HS (not the area with Asians and Indians but rather with Hispanics and poorer people). She tells me it’s night and day between the students whose parents taken even a casual interest in their kid’s education versus those who don’t give a shit.
Now that said I’ve seen the other extreme having gone to a HS with 85% Asians. My god some of those Asian parents were fucking scary and outright horrible
In other words, Go Bears!
SC has a program for kids who are identified as being promising but not quite getting it together in junior high – if they and their parents are willing to sign up for after school and summer programs through high school, and stick with it, they get a scholarship to SC (either 4 years of undergrad or 2 years of grad, last I checked). But the parental involvement is critical, partly to keep the kids on track and partly to keep parents from throwing them off.
But they have to play football and be open to improper financial benefits to secure the scholy right?
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No no no, those are the promising kids identified by the athletic department. The ones I’m talking about are the ones whose teachers think they have academic potential but haven’t quite figured out how to access it.
Up-and-coming lawyers, think about Sunderland university
Space law to be a new subject offered.
Would-be lawyers at a British university are taking a lesson from the Starship Enterprise and boldly going into the potential legal conundra of outer space.
For the first time in a UK syllabus, a module on law and the legal system beyond Earth’s atmosphere will be included as an option for students starting at Sunderland University in September.
“It is a fascinating topic, which many students will benefit from studying,” said Viv Kinnaird, dean of the faculty of business and law.
Topics already arising in the field include gaps in health and safety for potential space tourists, and damage to satellites from other objects orbiting the Earth. Looking further ahead, some lawyers have raised questions about land titles on the moon or other planets.
Chris Newman, one of the lecturers who will be teaching the module, said: “It is a growing area which has relevance across commercial, company, property, environmental, intellectual property and IT practice sectors. We think that our qualification will offer valuable knowledge in a fascinating area.”
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Just predicting...
“Space law” will basically be maritme law applied to outer space instead of the ocean.
I am a Vereenian.
that would seem to be easiest.
and most rational when space craft become real ships, not the death pods they are now.
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by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes but, have you been to Sunderland? I haven’t but its supposedly a dumpasaurus of cosmic proportions.
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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions
My grandparents used to live outside of Newcastle, which was bad enough. Sunderland has never struck me as an upgrade.
I really enjoyed Durham for the one night I was there. Though, I got the distinct feeling I would have been bored out of my mind if I stayed any longer.
Durham is the King of northeastern towns
Sunderland is the, oh, I don’t know, tenant farmer’s hired-in help, if there could possibly be such a thing?
Comparing CNN's frontpage to Al-Jazeera's. Which one would you use for actual news?


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by Avinash on Mar 17, 2010 4:52 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
After having BBC World and CNN Asia as my major news sources for 10 of the last 15 years, I realize one thing.
CNN USA sucks major donkey balls.
blame the dealers or the users?
I don’t know, but whoever put Nancy Grace and Lou Dobbs on my TV deserves a punch in the neck.
If CNN didn’t post all the American Idol nonsense etc on their frontpage, some other news source would and CNN.com would lost market share. They’re just catering to market forces.
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You’re drawing your own conclusions here. All I said is that what you see on cnn.com America is them catering to market forces in order to maintain market share.
(In the interest of fairness, when I got to work today, after checking my e-mail, I didn’t load up Reuters or The Economist or Bloomberg — I loaded up articles about Lost. Yet, I consider myself well-versed on world affairs)
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I am completely okay with making a baseless accusation that most people who take an interest in American Idol aren’t doing it because they are clever people who are “slumming” in intellectual terms.
I mean seriously, look at the kinds of comments you get on cnn.com or any mass market web site and remember why the word “average” is pejorative.
my parents love American Idol – and they’re both pretty intelligent people. My dad’s got a PhD, you know!
I’m not saying that liking American Idol and being intelligent are mutually exclusive. Two of the biggest consumers of junk television I know are PhDs – a NASA research scientist and a social historian. I don’t think that my disdain for it means that I am clever.
That said, statistically speaking there a lot of stupid people who think that American Idol = news.
Do they read articles on CNN.com about decoding American Idol judges?
by Yes We Cannon on Mar 17, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Because they present themselves as a news organization taking advantage of legal protections created to have a press that is able to keep the electorate informed of the events of the day – when in reality they present pap pandering to populist prejudices.
If they just said, we’re showing whatever we have to show in order to keep advertising rates up, and there might be some substantive content in there occasionally, then I would applaud them for being honest about their business model. But most companies – at least the ones who don’t sell software – avoid calling their customers stupid.
I’m explicitely differentiating here between CNN and CNN.com.
Realistically, news organisations have the duty to keep the “masses” informed and tell the truth.
I don’t think they have any sort of obligation in what they frontpage on their website vs what’s on the sidebar.
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While true, that isn’t my argument.
Are you arguing that the news reporting on politics on CNN.com or is it just the presentatoin?
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No, just me not speaking clearly.
If CNN.com has an article on, say, the health care bill, are you taking issue with the article itself and the actual news reporting of this issue, or are you, as this discussion seems to be about, taking issue with the fact that it’s a small link on the front page, while American Idol is the big attention grabber?
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Yeah, but if they’re an actual news organization, then they shouldn’t care about the market for American Idol Bullshit News.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
That’s the point, news organizations realize they can make more $$$ by posting stupid stories about American Idol and flag pins and Tiger Woods than by actually keeping people informed about the issues.
by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Kind of makes you question the whole for-profit news model, doesn’t it?
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
It’s a circular problem → people are under-educated/uninformed, therefore they are more likely to consume useless information about shit like American Idol, therefore they remain uninformed…
You see a similar cycle in politics – people are responsive to BS rhetoric, which motivates politicians to employ such rhetoric rather than actually talking about the issues, which…
by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Yup.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Sure, it’s news. But it’s not important news. “I ate breakfast this morning” is also technically news, but it’s not anything anyone else should really care about.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m touched that he cares so much about my eating habits.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
CNN
bringing you weathermen standing outside in a hurricane yelling incomprehensibly into a microphone and crying spouses of murder victims since 1984.
The classic moment was during the swine flu panic, when “Doctor” Sanjay Gupta sneaked into a hospital in Mexico that had soldiers stationed outside to enforce a quarantine.
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"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2010 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPHRIvQQRUI
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Jury refuses to convict pot dealers father and son duo, felt sorry for the dad.
But last week, the case went south and the two men, Thomas Chang, 62, and his son, Errol Chang, 30, were acquitted by a San Francisco jury.
Their defense? They needed the marijuana for a variety of maladies, from nightmares to neck pain to schizophrenia. Both had a cash-only doctor’s recommendation to use the drug.
The father, a retired security guard, truck driver, patrol special police officer and teacher, said he and his son both needed at least four cigar-sized joints a day to make it through.
Prosecutors ran straight into a new wrinkle in medical marijuana cases. No longer is there a set standard for what can clearly be seen as cultivation, as opposed to personal use. Instead, a jury is charged with determining what is considered reasonable for a person’s medical needs….
“They felt bad for the dad — he testified that he won two Bronze Stars in Vietnam and he suffers insomnia from the terrible experiences he had 40 years ago.”
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Awhile back (I believe it was during Fall finals) somebody posted an article discussing the best places on the Cal campus to study. I was wondering if anyone remembers where this article came from and could possibly link? Thanks so much.
Sure, but let’s just keep writing LOST SPOILER ALERT in the title to be safe.
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LOST SPOILER ALERT
It seems to me that, in the sideways world, those who followed the Man In Black dont’ have good lives. Sawyer is a cop, but he’s still going around trying to kill Anthony Cooper. Kate is still on the run from the cops. Jin, last we saw, had a different last name from Jin and is tied up in the freezer. Sayyid gets to see Nadia, but she’s married to his brother. It’s could be a “Faustian bargain” to use a cliched term.
On the flip side, those who follow Jacob seem to have better lives. Dojen is with his son. Jack, at the end, has a good relationship with his son. There’s an upcoming episode entitled “Everybody Loves Hurley”.
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LOST SPOILER ALERT
I honestly don’t care for the parallel reality. Id rather have more action in our actual world. What’s the point?
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LOST SPOILER ALERT
The two will merge at some point and it will make sense. There are different theories as to how they will merge. Some think the sideways world is an “afterlife” or an “epilogue” of sorts (maybe Juliet and Dogen are already there).
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LOST SPOILER ALERT
I’m beginning to lose faith that things will ever make sense.
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LOST SPOILER ALERT
Remember, they said they won’t answer all questions by the season finale.
But this one they said they will addres and they said the two timelines will merge.
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LOST SPOILER ALERT
We’ve already encountered Hurley, and he said he was the luckiest man in the world.
Ragnarok: Great Man or Greatest Man?
Yesterday’s episode was kind of boring. But I liked seeing the [spoiler]Sawyer-Miles[/spoiler] partnership.
I actually liked the episode for the most part, but the twist at the end wasn’t really a twist.
Also, next week’s episode is going to be friggin’ epic.
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Do the Lost writers push idea balls around with their noses?
by Itchy25 on Mar 17, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know. Main Stacks, FSM, Off Campus Coffee Houses?? How come nobody ever told me about any of those!! I can’t believe how secret those places are. Nobody ever knows to study there.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't remember the hours
but the new music library is pretty quiet/deserted; the upper level has comfy chairs scattered around the outer edge of the stacks looking out windows. It’s not as pretty as the old music library reading room but more useful for studying (and seemingly less crowded).
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by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2010 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I would study at the Ethnic Studies Library. Nobody was ever in there!
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flagged
TMI re Twist’s fiber consumption
"I treat Timmy differently from most pitchers: I leave him alone."- Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti
"What do I want you to do? What are you doing in the National League?"- John McGraw
"117 elements, and still no Stanfurdium"- carp (paraphrased)
by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2010 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions
…which one?
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
That partition at least created 2 states.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 18, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
3 actually, right?
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 18, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Um, so did the UN plan for the division of Palestine. The fact that the Palestinians didn’t get their shit together and succeeded in losing territory despite military support from Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, and Syria doesn’t mean that they didn’t have their chance.
I generally enjoy discussing politics, but I really don’t want to get into this particular topic. Suffice it to say that your version is a dramatic oversimplification, and it’s kind of smug to dismissively say, eh, they had their chance, oh well, so what. Whatever the UN plan was, it didn’t work, and I think there was more to it than “the Palestinians didn’t get their shit together”.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 18, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Of course it’s an oversimplification, but not by a wide margin. At some level, there was an argument about who got what territory that escalated into open warfare and one side lost badly despite having various notional advantages. But before that, the proposed partition was supposed to create two states.
As for whether it’s a question of being smug, I’d say that in my case it’s more disbelief at the first of many examples of everyday Palestinians being very badly served by their erstwhile leaders, who have had since 1948 every incentive to recast their incompetence as the result of Israeli perfidy. (Not mutually exclusive as reasons, but certainly not one or the other.)
However, if you won’t take the bait, I shall have to put the can of worms away.
I agree. Israel certainly has done its share of wrong (and also more than their share of just and right) actions lo these past 4 decades, but stupid and corrupt Palestinian leadership screwed their people far more than Israel ever could (barring nuclear war).
There’s a reason Yasser Arafat’s wife liveS in a million-dollar flat in Paris, and the money certainly ain’t from farming, that’s for sure.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 18, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
the lower east side
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by natteringnabob on Mar 18, 2010 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions
My wife’s uncle (Jewish) agreed to let his wife raise the kids Catholic because they live on the Upper West Side and he figured it was hard to find anywhere more culturally Jewish than that. Or so he claims, anyway. This came up years ago when we were visiting and his response to his wife announcing that she was taking the kids to Mass was to say that he was taking me and the missus to Barney Greengrass for Brunch. The wife’s cousins were looking at their mother sort of like Henry VIII at the Pope as a result.
Cal is going to the NIT!
Not talking women’s basketball. I’m talking golf.
SPRING SLATE ROLLS ON AT NATIONAL INVITATIONAL TOURNAMENT
Cal’s spring slate rolls on at the 2010 National Invitational Tournament hosted by the University of Arizona this Wednesday-Thursday, Mar. 16-17. The 54-hole event will take place at Omni Tucson National with the first 36 holes scheduled to be played Wednesday and the final 18 set for Thursday. Play begins each day at 7:30 a.m. PDT.
CAL SLIDES TO NO. 21 AND NO. 25 IN RANKINGS
Cal dropped three and four places respectively in the latest national rankings and is now ranked No. 21 by Golfweek and No. 25 according to Golfstat. The Bears were No. 18 and No. 21, respectively, before finishing ninth out of 16 teams in its most recent outing Mar. 8-9 at the Fresno Lexus Classic. The Bears began the spring ranked No. 30 (Golfweek) and No. 33 (Golfstat) but have been as high as No. 16 (Golfweek) after winning its first tournament of the 2010 spring season Feb. 1-2 at the Arizona Intercollegiate in Tucson. Their highest position in the Golfstat rankings this season is No. 21.
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Women's LAX travels to Connecticut this weekend
Seems like the Connecticut schools would want to travel west this time of year, but tevs.
This Week
California leaves the friendly confines of Memorial Stadium to play its next four games on the road. The Golden Bears (1-4, 0-1 in the Mountain Pacific Sports Federation) start with two games in Connecticut, playing at Quinnipiac (1-3, 1-0 Northeast Conference) on Friday, March 19, at noon PT in Hamden and at Fairfield (4-1, 0-0 Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference) on Sunday, March 21, at 9 a.m. PT. The Bears had played their first five games in the Golden State. On Friday, they’ll take on the Bobcats at the Quinnipiac Field Hockey & Lacrosse Turf Field and on Sunday they’ll take on the Stags at Alumni Stadium.
Cal has a 1-0 record in the series with Quinnipiac, after a 14-8 win over the Bobcats in 2008 in Berkeley. This is the first time the Bears will face Fairfield.
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Baseball game at Evans Diamond today
Playing another Houston school
The University of California baseball team (9-5), which just finished going 2-2 last weekend at then-No. 9-ranked Rice, returns home for a non-conference game against Houston (8-5), Wednesday, March 17 at 2:30 p.m. at Evans Diamond. Last weekend at Reckling Field in Houston, the Golden Bears won the first two games of the four-game series against the highly-ranked Owls, 8-6 and 6-4. Houston is fresh off a sweep of Cal Poly – 13-8, 6-2 and 5-3 – March 12-14 in San Luis Obispo. The Cougars play at San Francisco Tuesday (March 16).
Starting on the mound Wednesday for Cal will be senior left-hander Chris Petrini, who finished 4-3 last season with a 3.98 ERA and 36 strikeouts in 43.0 innings. Petrini ended the 2009 season on a high note when he threw a complete-game, two-hit shutout (6-0) of USC. In that game he only yielded one walk and tied a career-high with nine strikeouts against the Trojans. Freshman right-hander James Conlee (0-0, 0.00 ERA) is slated to start on the mound for Houston.
Cal, despite losing the last two games of the Rice series, 26-11 and 7-4, had some outstanding performances in Houston. In game one March 11, sophomore right-hander Erik Johnson threw 6.0 innings with two hits, no runs, one walk and six strikeouts in the 8-6 win. He is 3-0 on the year and has not given up an earned run in 19.0 innings. In those 19.0 innings, Johnson has recorded 20 strikeouts with only four walks.
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note
Cal will be travelling to Cal-Poly this weekend for a series; as noted Houston just swept them for 3.
Also, USF beat Houston 3-2 yesterday in an oddly low-scoring game on a very warm and dry day in the city, ending the Cougars’ 6-game winning streak:
http://www.usfdons.com/sports/m-basebl/recaps/031610aaa.html
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by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2010 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Also Rice beat #2 Texas yesterday 10-6
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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Rugby Homecoming Game vs. Saint Mary's on Saturday
Are the East Bayers and Moraga lovers here torn?
The winner of Saturday’s 1 p.m. homecoming rugby match on Witter Rugby Field between the Golden Bears and Saint Mary’s will receive a bye into the national collegiate Round of 16 as the second overall seed. The loser will host a regional playoff April 2-3 hoping to secure one of the Pacific Region’s two remaining seeds.
There are no official events before or after the matches on Saturday, with a reserve-grade contest following the First XV, but early arrival to Witter Rugby Field is encouraged. A free shuttle from the Underhill parking lot will help to offset the loss of Witter parking lot on Centennial Drive due to ongoing renovations related to Memorial Stadium and the Student-Athlete High Performance Center.
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Women's H2O polo to compete in Pacific Invitational
Saturday in beautiful Stockton
Bear Bites:
The No. 3-ranked Cal women’s water polo team (18-5, 3-2), taking a break from MPSF competition, travels to Stockton Saturday, March 20 to compete in the Pacific Invitational, its sixth tournament of the season (15-3 mark). On Saturday afternoon, the Golden Bears will open with a match against Indiana (12:30 p.m.). Later in the day, Cal will face host Pacific (4 p.m.). Along with its 3-2 league mark, the Bears have performed well in tournaments in 2010; winning all five matches during the NorCal Invitational in Berkeley and making it to the finals of the Stanford [sic] Invitational, where it fell to then-No. 1-ranked Stanford [sic], 10-7. At the UC Irvine Invitational, Cal topped UC Davis (13-5) and No. 6 Hawaii (8-4) in day one, before falling to the Trojans (10-5) in the semifinals and being tipped by No. 3 UCLA, 7-6, in six sudden death overtime periods. The Bears’ loss to the Bruins is believed to be the longest match in NCAA women’s water polo history. At the Cal Lutheran Invitational, Cal won both of its matches against Occidental (16-4) and California Baptist (12-4). They concluded their weekend with a 7-4 loss against USC in a conference matchup. Last weekend, the Bears defeated San Diego State in an MPSF contest, 10-4. Cal then went on to win all three of its matches at the Aztec Invitational, topping No. 20 Princeton (13-4), Marist (11-0) and Maryland (14-1).
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Softball Bears play in a Hawaii tournament starting today
“Chevron Spring Fling” in Honolulu. Yes, I’m jealous
Wednesday, March 17
7 p.m. PSF – No. 12/13 Cal (19-4) vs. Lipscomb (19-2)
Rainbow Wahine Softball Stadium – Honolulu
Series Record vs. Bisons: First meeting
Thursday, March 18
6 p.m. PST – Lipscomb (19-2) vs. No. 12/13 Cal (19-4)
Rainbow Wahine Softball Stadium – Honolulu
8 p.m. PST – No. 12/13 Cal (19-4) at Hawaii (18-9)
Rainbow Wahine Softball Stadium – Honolulu
TV: KFVE in Honolulu, available online for a fee here
Series Record vs. Rainbow Wahine: 16-7, Cal
Last Meeting: W, 10-1 (5) (3/12/09)
Friday, March 19
7 p.m. PST – No. 12/13 Cal (19-4) vs. Lipscomb
Rainbow Wahine Softball Stadium – Honolulu
9 p.m. PST – No. 12/13 Cal (19-4) at Hawaii (18-9)
Rainbow Wahine Softball Stadium – Honolulu
Saturday, March 20
5 p.m. PST – No. 12/13 Cal (19-4) at Hawaii (18-9)
Rainbow Wahine Softball Stadium – Honolulu
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Cal tennis player is dude of the week
Looks like a lot of people voted for Pedro
California men’s tennis junior Pedro Zerbini has been named the Pac-10 Men’s Tennis Player of the Week for the week of March 8-14, Commissioner Larry Scott announced Tuesday, March 16. Arizona State junior Kelcy McKenna was selected as the conference women’s player of the week.
The third-year Golden Bear from Sao Paulo, Brazil, becomes the first player in Cal men’s tennis history to be chosen for the honor in multiple seasons and is the second player to receive as many as three awards in his career. Zerbini’s selection is the ninth overall weekly honor for the Cal men.
Zerbini helped the Bears earn a split on the road by defeating No. 51 Rice, 4-3, and falling to No. 28 Texas A&M, 5-2. Zerbini earned his 14th and 15th singles victories of the season as he claimed wins over No. 16 Austin Krajicek of Texas A&M (6-4, 6-1) and No. 25 Bruno Rosa of Rice (6-4, 6-1). Zerbini’s two wins were his seventh and eighth over ranked opponents this season.
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Men's gymnast also nabs Pac-10 dude of the week honors
California sophomore men’s gymnast Glen Ishino, the reigning national and Mountain Pacific Sports Federation gymnast of the week, repeated as the MPSF gymnast for the week of March 15, the conference office announced Tuesday. Ishino further established his dominance on March 13 with a 90.900 all-around win, in the No. 9 California men’s gymnastics team’s final home meet of the 2010 campaign – a 354.650-344.300 upset win over No. 6 Penn State.
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Women's gymnastics closes regular season on Saturday
The California Golden Bears close out the regular season this week with a road tri-meet in the Mile High City, taking on Denver and Arizona. The meet takes place at 6:00 p.m. Mountain Time in Denver. Live stats will be available for the meet.
Last Week: Davis Tri-Meet California stayed above the 190 point threshold for the second consecutive week, earning a team score of 190.650.
All-Around Freshman Madisyn O’Brien, who has been limited by an ankle injury the previous two meets, was back to competing in the All-Around, earning a 38.075, her second highest total for the season. Avery Gee, the Bears other all-arounder, was .050 off of her season high score, earning a 38.300 total for her four scores.
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This will help the Pac-10's rep tremendously!
Jacksonville beats ASU in 1st round of NIT
Cal beat Jacksonville by 32 back in November.
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did you watch this game? the ending was a huge choke-job. ASU was up 5 with 18 seconds to go and lost
Does anyone actually watch the NIT? Then again, I was at Nets/Hawks last night…
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by yellow fever on Mar 17, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I have been on a conference call for 2 hours now. I started work this morning at 9:15am. It is 9:50pm. Except for my commute and lunch, I have been working 13 hours now.
Someone shoot me.
I’ve had a conference call as late as 11:30 PM. That was an exciting day, let me tell you. And then I got to get up and do it all over again the next day!
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by yellow fever on Mar 17, 2010 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I used to have a monthly global one – it wasn’t so bad in Hong Kong 11pm-Midnight. The poor Australians and Japanese were up at 1 and 2 in the morning.
That’s one thing I don’t have to worry about with civilian federal work… aside from the occasional weekend when we’re having a pre-release crisis (TWSS).
or local government landfill work.
“sorry we close at 4”
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Depends on if I’m a bank teller (2 hours a day), local government official (only if you count hanging out at hostess clubs and “banquets” as work), factory work (22 hours a day) construction worker (24 hours a day) or Shanghai white collar office drone (9am – 6:30pm but most of it is spent gossiping loudly, especially in your Chinese American colleague’s ear while he is trying to simultaneously write an email, listen to Roxy Bernstein call a basketball game and flirt with the girl he met over the weekend on MSN)
Someone shoot me.
You’re in China, just look up the wrong thing on the internet and it’ll be done.
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by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yesterday I was at work from 8:15am – 10pm =(
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Out of curiousity
Is CGB looking to “clean up” the DBD? That’s the only assumption I can make based on the form we have been asked to fill out. I answered it briefly but honestly (mostly).
Or is this an attempt to see if people don’t traffic to the site because of the DBD (the greatest creation know to Western Civilization since the advent of sliced bread)?
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The DBD is one of the few things that keeps me entertained throughout the course of my day at work. If the DBD is seriously compromised in any way, it would make me rethink my dedication to this website. Pretty much all the work that I do in this website is designed to keep me from having to think about work during the day, so if that carrot ends, I’m not sure if I’d still be as interested in co-managing this site.
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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
It is but an hour. That still leaves like 8 hours.
I think it is difficult for those who do not have jobs (or have jobs that allow them out of their office) to understand the service provided here.
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This
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The DBD is one of the few things that keeps me entertained throughout the course of my day at work. If the DBD is seriously compromised in any way, it would make me rethink my dedication to this website. Pretty much all theworkreading and posting that I do in this website is designed to keep me from having to think about work during the day, so if that carrot ends, I’m not sure if I’d still be as interested inco-managing this siteliving.
Fixed to reflect my own personal feelings.
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I think your first sentence could have been written by 90% of CGB readers.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
I think your first sentence could have been written by 90% of CGBreaderscommenters.
It’s the people that don’t comment that we’re trying to work into the picture.
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by yellow fever on Mar 17, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
BECAUSE THE INTERNETZ IS SERIOUS BUSINESS
Someone hit me with a photoshop here.
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by yellow fever on Mar 17, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Amoki suspended for violating team rules ......
by 33SwisherSweet on Mar 17, 2010 10:04 AM PDT reply actions
If he violates team rules when it matters most why not just kick him off the team?
Clearly the team is not this guys’ first priority. I saw him cruising around Berkeley after the ASU game with, how do i put this, some questionable characters. Dude sure knows how to keep it real though.
by 33SwisherSweet on Mar 17, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
And here I thought you were always about keeping it real!
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by yellow fever on Mar 17, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Further conjecture/hearsay supporting my position that Amoke keeps it real (also from BI)
“I knew this was bound to happen. I am a student at Berkeley and we had a party the night before the ASU game.. Probably the biggest game of the season, but didn’t seem like it mattered to Amoke. He was there and was drinking. Very surprised he started against ASU. He has bad judgment and probably was suspended for a similar incident.”
by 33SwisherSweet on Mar 17, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
one time i was at the mcd’s at university and shattuck, and amoke was quite adamant that he ordered a mcchicken, and was angered that he had received a mcdouble. a good time was had by all!
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by GoldBlooded on Mar 17, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I once saw Lamond Murray at 4am at the El Cerrito Nation’s. He had 2 slices of pie (I was getting a burger to finish my paper that was due at noon).
Later that night, he dropped 28 points on some team. I turned in my paper on time. Boo-yah.
fail
You can’t play like a star athlete if you don’t eat like a star athlete.
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by natteringnabob on Mar 18, 2010 7:07 AM PDT up reply actions
That is a real shame, I wonder what he actually did…
Big hit for the Bears… I guess we just don’t like playing top flight talent at full strength…
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by CruzinBears on Mar 17, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
How does this affect our lineups?
Amoki averaged about 17 minutes a game. Who gets those minutes now?
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Oy, that’s not a good start to the Tourney.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I bet he violated the 5-second rule. That’s grounds for banning.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
too bad Montgomery didn’t change to the 10 second rule
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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Spring practice report from YO
Team practices tomorrow and then not again until March 30
Cal practiced for the third time this spring tonight and I asked Tedford afterward is any players from last year’s scout team have stood out so far. He singled out cornerbacks Steve Williams and Vachel Samuels, defensive linemen Keni Kaufusi and DeAndre Coleman and running back Desarte Yarnway. He also said linebacker Chris Little, who played some as a backup last season, "is making an impact."
One thing Tedford stressed is that he wants to make sure he rotates players often during the spring to make sure everybody gets a chance to take first team reps. When talking about Coleman, whom Tedford clearly is excited about, he said "what we have to do is make sure we evaluate DeAndre against the No. 1 guys so you can get a true evaluation. That’s why you rotate all the guys in there."
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I’m quite excited about Yarnway.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
…Can’t we be excited about both? Coleman is supposed to be a beast, too. It’s spring! It’s time for hope.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
nope, just Williams.
Ok, I’m actually excited for a lot of them. Although a lot of it won’t matter if the OL doesn’t get its act together…
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The OL and secondary are the keys to success, I think. If they play well, the talent in the rest of the units should be enough.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
How about we cheer them all on?
My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
I’ll cheer 4/5ths of the OLine, but if that Right Tackle receives even one iota of my cheering energy, I’m OUT!
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I see your schwartz is as big as mine…
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Drudge is pretty much king of this. Especially picture juxtaposition.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Best and worse case scenarios
According to Pat Forde.
With Amoki out, perhaps we’ve inched closer to worst.
California (8)
Best Case: Playing with fury for a scorned league, the Golden Bears come out flying. Jerome Randle is bombing from deep, Patrick Christopher is operating smoothly from the wings and Cal beats Louisville. Next, Duke transfer Jamal Boykin goes off on his old team for 20 points and 15 rebounds in leading a Cal upset of the Blue Devils. Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott rushes the floor and jumps on the Golden Bears’ dogpile at midcourt. Cal doesn’t stop until Baylor beats it in the regional final, its best showing in 50 years. And last anyone checked, Stanford [sic] still stunk [emphasis added].
Worst Case: Fury for a scorned league is nice, but what if the league deserved to be scorned? Beaten up inside by Louisville, Cal is quickly dismissed in the first round while Washington also is eliminated in its first game. The Pac-10 commissioner begs UCLA to get good again in a hurry. The Golden Bears complete a season of across-the-board underachievement in football and men’s basketball.
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- This is an extremely thorough point-counterpoint on how Chip Kelly handled Oregon’s recent off-field challenges, which you may have read about
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Nice work everyone! Especially Twist for his non-criminal lawyer analysis!
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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
And you wonder why I have to fight off the “Let’s Moderate The DBD” brigade.
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Let them form a splinter group with a site no one reads.
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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Like CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.org? Or CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.gov? Or CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.berkeley.edu?
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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, Lawyers might not be all bad...
Bringing this DBD full circle, if you binge drink tonight in SF, you can have a free cab ride home courtesy of some ambulance chasers.
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Tebow's New Throwing Motion Unveiled
In a dark, dreary rain-filled day at Ben Hill-Griffin Stadium, Florida quarterback and local icon Tim Tebow hoped the sunny skies would come out and his prospect of being a top pick in this April’s NFL draft would follow. After enduring an enormous amount of scrutiny from his lackluster week at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Tim Tebow vowed to re-work his throwing motion, footwork and delivery.
The early results were good, as Tebow shortened up his delivery and showed good velocity on short routes. As the workout continued, Tebow’s flaws began to surface as he now has a pause in his throwing motion and when he rolled out, his arm would drop just as it did before. Tebow struggled as the day went on with accuracy throwing outs as his receivers had to wait or come back for the football and rarely did an out hit a receiver on the numbers. In summation, Tebow looked better throwing the football than he did in Mobile, but as one NFL scout told me, “If he didn’t wear an orange Florida helmet he’d be a sixth or seventh-round pick.”
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Tim Tebow tears are so yummy
My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
It’s actually a key ingredient of Gatorade.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
We graduate between 20 and 36 percent of our basketball players?!
The bad (between 20 and 36 percent graduation rates): Cal, Arkansas Pine-Bluff, Washington, Tennessee, Kentucky, Baylor, New Mexico State (average tournament seed: 6.8)
That’s pretty awful.
Theres information missing. What was the time period?
And the study is flawed. It apparently doesn’t take into account athletes that take longer?
I’m confused….. in my time at Cal I don’t recall any of our players flunking out.
My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
David Paris is one that I can remember off the top fo my head.
We also had several transfers and a few people go pro early. Do those count?
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From another article at TrueHoop, ESPN’s (excellent) basketball blog:
The graduation rates of African-American ballplayers on some men’s teams are shockingly low. Five men’s teams graduate 20 percent or less of their African-American players. Two teams, Maryland and California have, six years later, graduated zero percent of their black ballplayers who entered from 1999 through 2002.
Recall that Richard Lapchick’s studies use the NCAA Graduation Success metric, which does not penalize a school for players who transfer or go to the NBA, as long as they are in good academic standing. Low graduation rates aren’t one-year flukes either. The NCAA graduation rates are based on four years of graduation rates for entering classes.
1999 to 2002. That’s not really relevant now, I would hope.
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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Guys who entered Cal during that time period
Off the top of my head, I can think of Shipp, Wethers, Forehan-Kelly, Dennis Gates, and Donte Smith. I’m pretty sure that Gates and Forehan-Kelly graduated. Jamal Sampson was somewhere in there, too, and he left early for the NBA.
I don’t think any of those 1999 NIT guys (Carlisle, Gill, Boyd, Kilgore) were part of that time period. I think all those guys came to Cal in 1998 w/ Lamps.
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Not only did Gates graduate, but he did so in three years, and was enrolled in graduate school during his senior year.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
Dr. Saturday (Yahoo! Sports) with an article about Kevin Riley):
Typecasting. Riley exists squarely in the middle of Generic Land on almost every level: He’s got good-not-great size (6’2", 223), arrived with good-not-great hype (No. 6 incoming “pro style” QB nationally in 2006, according to Rivals) and has demonstrated good-not-great athleticism in terms of both arm strength and mobility. Somehow, he manages to seem “versatile” and “limited” at the exact same time, depending on how nice you are and which day you happen to catch him on.
I'm not bailing out on Riley...
But, I would like to see one of our other QBs start the season. It’ll give something both the coaches and the hardcore naysayers to think about pending that other QBs performance, because right now we don’t have a barometer on how any of our other QBs perform.
This is something we haven’t had since 2008 when Longshore lost it mentally and Riley came in (remember when he was seen as the messiah when Longshore failed to generate anything?).
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~ Three Dog - Fallout 3
You guys fill out your census yet?
I got mine in the mail yesterday and filled it out and posted it today morning. I knew that if I didn’t do it soon I’d forget.
In other words, Go Bears!
Sent mine yesterday.
"atomsareenough—cleaning up CGB one day at a time until we finally get that press pass." - Berkelium97
by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought Bachmann changed her tune when she realized that her congressional seat could get eliminated if enough of her constituents don’t fill out their census forms.
"atomsareenough—cleaning up CGB one day at a time until we finally get that press pass." - Berkelium97
by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Think of it this way
If you don’t fill out the form, you force some census taker to get paid to come to your house, thus stimulating the economy!
Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."
I’m hiding it from my wife, hoping she forgets. Don’t want to give Ohio more seats in Congress than it deserves.
I am a Vereenian.
by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Breakin’ the law!
"atomsareenough—cleaning up CGB one day at a time until we finally get that press pass." - Berkelium97
by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Proper Flag Procedure
When you flag something, we see your complaint, however we often have trouble finding the offensive comment because the SBN platform does not tell us the exact comment which you found offensive. So if you really do want to point something in specific to us, please copy the link to that specific offensive comment into your complaint so we can see it. The SBN platform software will only tell us what offensive comment you have flagged if that offending commenter put something in the subject line. As since most of us don’t use the subject line (except for 33SwisherSweet), it’s hard for me to see what exactly is being flagged; I can only really see whom in particular you have flagged.
If you’re just flagging somebody to be funny and it’s no big deal, then you probably don’t have to bother putting the actual offensive comment URL. But if you’re legitimately flagging something and want us to know about it, it helps if you put the offensive comment’s URL into your complaint.
Thanks.
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
Fun link for today
Playboy accidentally played out on childrens TV. Apparently in Northern California
Ragnarok: Great Man or Greatest Man?
PS3 is annoying. Empirical, right? I did it at the same time as stats, so it worked out, bc they were teaching the same shit. You majoring in PS, Itchy?
CGB's Jimmy Carter
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
Carp definitely majored in PS.
"atomsareenough—cleaning up CGB one day at a time until we finally get that press pass." - Berkelium97
by atomsareenough on Mar 18, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LAWL
Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
by GoldBlooded on Mar 18, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm drunk now
So I’m going to say you’re alright kid. You are ALLLRIGHT.
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