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In honor of St. Patty's Day: Is it normal to drink every night? Does anybody else come home from work and enjoy a cold one?

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Yes, if you like drinking.

This is the thing – drinking has always been normal in UK society because that is all we did. You could not trust the water, so you drank beer. Everyone drank beer – children included. All the time.

There’s that marvellous quote from the 1950s. If you had a car accident in London in the 1950’s, both of you would be drunk. The policeman who arrived would be drunk, as would the ambulance drivers. If it went to court the judge and jury would be drunk.

For most of human history where we have had the capacity to ferment or distill we have been drunk. All the fucking time.

In my parents time it was not unusual for them to drive home after all night parties, and have no recollection of getting home because they were so drunk. And that was the normal mode of behaviour.

So it is relatively recently that we have treated alcohol as a major social concern, and drinking every day being seen as ‘abnormal’. It was the norm. All day every day.

So have a drink if you like. I do.
Seems like a lot to some….

I come home from work and drink a minimum of a sixer ever night…. and have for about 35 years. On days off, I don’t drink before 3:00 in the afternoon. When I am doing things I enjoy, hunting, fishing, woodworking, etc., I rarely drink at all. Well…. fishing I may imbibe some, no more than a couple if I am driving my own boat. some say its a problem, but I make over 6 digits in a year in a highly stressful job, never been arrested, married for 20+ years, four successful kids that have never been abused… go figure. I love beer and brew my own. Make my own whiskey, grow my own…vegatables

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by Avinash on Mar 17, 2010 4:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Re: that first comment from the UK… if you’re talking a pint or two a day, that’s one thing… but it’s often not that. My father started seeing death notices for guys he had apprenticed with when they were in their 40s, and more so in their 50s, and a lot of it was drinking, smoking, and shitty diet.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 6:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

The amount of drinking that goes on in the UK, to this day, is frankly amazing, and the knock-on effects of it are enormous. They drink truly stunning amounts, and they drink to get drunk. Every night. Not at all a pint a day.

And it’s super pleasant when one is walking to the Tube in the morning, stepping over fresh piles of vomit every hundred yards or so.

by Scootie on Mar 17, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s appalling. There have been times when I’ve considered trying to find a job in the UK, even if just for a few years, now that my kids are old enough to get something out of living there, but the drink culture would prompt me to get them back to the States really by the time they were middle-school aged.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or they vomit on the tube, then the vomit seeks you out as the train begins to move.

by chowder on Mar 17, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve had this argument so many times — realistically, I’m more worried about alcoholic tendencies in the guy who comes home from work and drinks a six pack every weeknight by himself than I am about the guys who go out and “binge drink” with their friends once or twice a week.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

is it that common for a full six-pack daily?

My friends – if they do drink daily – do a beer or two with dinner or watching tv.

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t actually personally know anyone who does, but you figure “Joe Sixpack” has to come from somewhere and it’s not about Middle America’s addiction to fitness.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Neither is remotely healthy, don’t fool yourself.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m confused — when did I use the word “healthy”? Obviously, binge drinking isn’t healthy (it is awesome, however).

The point I’m making is that the latter group is the people you read about; whereas, I feel, the former group is more likely to actually become alcoholics.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Clinically, binge drinking is a symptom and risk factor for alcoholism, even if it’s ‘only’ once a week.

If you’re defining the first group as a ‘guy who drinks a six-pack’ every day, he’s an alcoholic already. I think Joe Six-Pack is more likely a Middle American Rishi, who drinks beer instead of lemon drops on the weekends for whatever purposes.

by sec119 on Mar 17, 2010 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’d be surprised how common the “guy who drinks a six-pack a day” is.

I interviewed with Anheuser Busch my senior year for a marketing position; when discussing marketing strategies, etc. with the interviewer, he flatly stated that their target market for Bud Light is the man who drinks a six pack of beer every weekday at home.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

and WoW is marketing to the guy who plays 20 hours a day and has to order in food to survive.

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by AndBears on Mar 17, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

And? They’re both businesses…

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

But while those are profitable, ideal customers, they’re not the norm.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just pointing out that most people don’t drink an entire 6-pack daily. I think it’s more like a weekend thing, as someone else also suggested.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

But then we’re comparing weekend drinkers to weekend drinkers, which solves nothing.

There is a sizeable contingent of people who drink a six pack a day.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sort of. We’re comparing binge drinking to binge drinking, which is not good for you in any case.

by sec119 on Mar 17, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, technically, the guy who has a couple beers by himself every night (to be fair, I’m downgrading from the sixpacker) is not binge drinking.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, in that case the professionals would refer to weekly limits, instead of a limit for one sitting.

by sec119 on Mar 17, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was always under the impression that twelve drinks spread out over a seven day week is not binge drinking, while twelve drinks in one night is.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t remember the limits off the top of my head, but I think they’re a lot lower. Binge drinking (for a guy) is five drinks in a night, maybe?

by sec119 on Mar 17, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, that sucks.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the idea is 1 – 2 drinks a day is okay, and that sec119 has about the right number for an official binge.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure Blizzard markets WoW at the exact opposite demographic, for obvious reasons (monthly subscription for unlimited play).

by Kai on Mar 18, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

YOU’RE ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 18, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am. And employed, which has unfortunately cut down on my DBD time.

by Kai on Mar 18, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another good man lost to the ravages of employment.

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by TwistNHook on Mar 18, 2010 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s just not so. The reason you hear about binge drinking is precisely because people used to ignore it as a sign of alcoholism, not because daily six packs are worse.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

And I’m not denying that it could be a sign of alcoholism, but I fail to see how the gentleman who drinks a sixpack of beer by himself every weekday isn’t likely to become an alcoholic.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because alcoholism isn’t solely a function of total consumption.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

My emphasis isn’t on the volume — it’s on the “being alone” aspect.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn’t this depend on your definition of alcoholism?

It seems like Rishi is right – drinking a six-pack every day seems more like a sign of addiction than drinking a larger amount less frequently.

by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Your stereotypical alcoholic is more likely to drink daily than not. But not drinking daily is not an indicator that someone is not an alcoholic. Rishi is essentially trying to move the goalposts around so that sad lonely beer drinkers are alcoholics and dashing young weekend drinkers can’t be.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Again, depends on your definition of alcoholism – I don’t know what the medical definition is, but the colloquial definition is somewhat ambiguous. If you’re talking about a physiological or psychological addiction to alcohol, it seems like there would be a correlation to frequency of use (although a lack of frequency isn’t necessarily an indication that someone isn’t an alcoholic, as you point out).

by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

IIRC, the DSM basically defines any addiction as one which negatively interferes with a person’s life. Here is a handy summation, where addiction is any 3 out of 7. (including increased tolerance, negative consequences, withdrawl and desire to cut down).

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by AndBears on Mar 17, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do you sometimes drink to get drunk?

WHAT?! There are other reasons?!

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I appreciate your link to a summary of the DSM. I thought about bringing it up, but didn’t have the time to devote to explaining it.

by sec119 on Mar 17, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

<3

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by AndBears on Mar 17, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Definition of Alcoholism — published by the Journal of the American Medical Association

" Alcoholism is a primary, chronic disease with genetic, psychosocial, and environmental factors influencing its development and manifestations. The disease is often progressive and fatal. It is characterized by continuous or periodic: impaired control over drinking, preoccupation with the drug alcohol, use of alcohol despite adverse consequences, and distortions in thinking, most notably denial ."

Disease means an involuntary disability. It represents the sum of the abnormal phenomena displayed by a group of individuals. These phenomena are associated with a specified common set of characteristics by which these individuals differ from the norm, and which places them at a disadvantage.

Often progressive and fatal means that the disease persists over time and that physical, emotional, and social changes are often cumulative and may progress as drinking continues. Alcoholism causes premature death through overdose, organic complications involving the brain, liver, heart and many other organs, and by contributing to suicide, homicide, motor vehicle crashes, and other traumatic events.

Impaired control means the inability to limit alcohol use or to consistently limit on any drinking occasion the duration of the episode, the quantity consumed, and/or the behavioral consequences of drinking.

Preoccupation in association with alcohol use indicates excessive, focused attention given to the drug alcohol, its effects, and/or its use. The relative value thus assigned to alcohol by the individual often leads to a diversion of energies away from important life concerns.

Adverse consequences are alcohol-related problems or impairments in such areas as: physical health (e.g., alcohol withdrawal syndromes, liver disease, gastritis, anemia, neurological disorders); psychological functioning (e.g., impairments in cognition, changes in mood and behavior); interpersonal functioning (e.g., marital problems and child abuse, impaired social relationships); occupational functioning (e.g., scholastic or job problems); and legal, financial, or spiritual problems.

Denial is used here not only in the psychoanalytic sense of a single psychological defense mechanism disavowing the significance of events, but more broadly to include a range of psychological maneuvers designed to reduce awareness of the fact that alcohol use is the cause of an individual’s problems rather than a solution to those problems. Denial becomes an integral part of the disease and a major obstacle to recovery.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is so broad as to include about 50% of college students.

by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is so broad as to include about 50% of college students CGB Commenters.

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by AndBears on Mar 17, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

that's correct

and a problem.

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by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Its not alchoholism until you’re out of college. At least thats what I kept telling myself for a good portion of my last 3 years in school.

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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Layman's Summary

When you can’t feel “normal” without a drink you are already way over the line. When you have screwed up either work, close relationships, or had legal trouble because of alcohol or (insert other substances here) 99% chance you belong in the “alcoholic” box.

by SierraBear on Mar 17, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right, my point is, I think there are plenty of people who feel normal without a drink, haven’t screwed up any aspects of their lives due to alcohol, but still get wasted occasionally because they enjoy it.

I’m not saying this is healthy or should be encouraged, just that it seems to demonstrate less of a correlation to alcoholism than drinking by yourself every weekday would.

by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

But how occasional or regular is “occasionally”? I think if it’s a couple times a month or something, that’s one thing, but if it’s weekly or more, then that’s likely more serious and problematic.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

And you can say this because…?

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m admittedly drawing an arbitrary line. Maybe you would draw a slightly different line, but you have to admit that the more frequent it is, the more likely it is that the person has a drinking problem. Getting blottoed, say, once a year is different than once a week.

"atomsareenough—cleaning up CGB one day at a time until we finally get that press pass." - Berkelium97

by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, but saying something is serious or problematic is a loaded charge in this situation.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Calling weekly+ binge drinking “likely… problematic” is a loaded charge?

"atomsareenough—cleaning up CGB one day at a time until we finally get that press pass." - Berkelium97

by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Weasel words.

See link at bottom of page.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I can’t go to cracked.com. I’ll have to look at it later.

"atomsareenough—cleaning up CGB one day at a time until we finally get that press pass." - Berkelium97

by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

It essentially talks about how using “likely” or “some people” or those kind of ways allow you to make a loaded charge without actually making a loaded statement.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

For example…. how it’s likely that some people think you’re an alcoholic? :)

"atomsareenough—cleaning up CGB one day at a time until we finally get that press pass." - Berkelium97

by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stop using smiley faces.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

:(

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Those are okay.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really just want to place additional emphasis on the drinking by yourself vs drinking with friends part.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

My grandfather was an alcoholic and he drank with friends every night.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, drop the “by yourself” from my previous comment. Just frequency.

by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Combination is key here.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because you identify with the latter group?

Both descriptions trouble me, frankly. I don’t mind having a glass of wine, or a beer, or something like that with dinner from time to time, or going out and having a drink in a bar or a restaurant occasionally, but I very, very rarely consume enough to reach the point of intoxication.

"atomsareenough—cleaning up CGB one day at a time until we finally get that press pass." - Berkelium97

by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, aren’t you awesome

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess not!

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’re missing the point entirely. It’s not that drinking is always bad or wrong, but it’s that it’s unhealthy to drink large amounts all at once, and on a regular basis, and that the regularity/frequency is what makes one’s relationship with alcohol something to question or possibly be worried about.

"atomsareenough—cleaning up CGB one day at a time until we finally get that press pass." - Berkelium97

by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, it is unhealthy to drink a lot. I don’t think even Rishi would dispute that.

by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

BUT IT’S AWESOME!

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t just mean physically unhealthy, though. Look, if someone wants to get wasted from time to time, on a special occasion maybe, or let’s say they really wanted to let loose on a particular weekend or something, sure, it may be physically unhealthy, but I don’t think it’s a big deal. If they’re doing it every Friday/Saturday night for example, I think that’s a troubling and unhealthy relationship with alcohol. That’s all I’m saying.

"atomsareenough—cleaning up CGB one day at a time until we finally get that press pass." - Berkelium97

by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

At this point, you’re just putting your own personal opinion out there and then making judgements based on it.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Duh.

"atomsareenough—cleaning up CGB one day at a time until we finally get that press pass." - Berkelium97

by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, my bad, I thought we were debating from a more neutral perspective.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, we’ve both just been giving opinions.. if you’ve got an objective standard upon which you would like to base the discussion, by all means feel free.

"atomsareenough—cleaning up CGB one day at a time until we finally get that press pass." - Berkelium97

by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve at least been trying.

Otherwise, my entire argument would be “YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS LOSER”

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hah!

But if I’m the one with no friends, how come you’re the one with the drinking problem? :)

"atomsareenough—cleaning up CGB one day at a time until we finally get that press pass." - Berkelium97

by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because it’s a drinking solution.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you able to neutral about your one true love?

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I try, but I just can’t quit you!

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sort of on topic and sort of not: a bit of family history. One of my mom’s uncle (so my great-uncle?) was a chronic alcoholic. He drank A LOT. And not just your six pack every night but rather the hard stuff. His wife got fed up with him and instead of divorce like would probably happen here she committed suicide. Their kids were barely in their teens (I was about 5 or 6 I think). After which he became horribly depressed and drank more and more despite everyone including his own daughter trying to stop him. Eventually he passed away (I think about 11 or so years ago) due to liver failure (cirrhosis?) and my maternal grandfather and other family members basically took the kids in and helped them. Due to this history my mom is extremely against drinking anything. I think the whole experience has turned her in a way that she cannot take a reasonable look at alcohol. Everytime I tell my parents “hey I’m going out tonight” even now my mom gets worried and makes me promise to not drink. I always feel guilty for lying. Odd thing is that even I used to be against drinking until I got to college having seen someone ruin lives due to alcohol. It was a horrible experience.

tl;dr

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Mar 17, 2010 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did he ever go a day without drinking and suffer withdrawals or even DT’s, which can be deadly? I always thought it was crazy that hardcore alcoholics could potentially die from suddenly stopping the booze.

by Itchy25 on Mar 17, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t remember too many details about that stuff (I just remember how mellow and jolly he was when he was sober and how agitated he was drunk). I was 9 when I last saw him after all.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Mar 17, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

So sad :( As cheesy as it sounds, it seems the key to enjoying things like alcohol as with most other things is moderation. Of course, that doesn’t mean I never have nights where I’m throwing up in bushes. The evening of this past football seasons ’SC game being a fine example..

by Itchy25 on Mar 17, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can agree with this.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got similar static from my mother a couple of years after her father died, when she decided to unleash many years’ worth of anger on a variety of people – or as I like to call it, the summer of being accused of being an alcoholic. My brother and I wouldn’t have more than 1 drink in front of her for a couple of years until she got through it.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

My mother’s feeling on drinking has lasted since her aunt commited suicide so I guess about 15+ years and I don’t see it changing any time soon

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Mar 17, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

When bad boys come on strong, they usually get the girl. When nice guys come on strong, they look desperate, clingy and needy. Why?

Ding ding ding.

Because bad boys are able to project that they are fine whether or not they get the girl. Nice guys come off like they really, really need to get the girl to be happy.

The best way to come across like the bad guy without actually being the bad guy is to be happy with your life, so that you really are OK whether or not you get the girl. They can sense it.

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by Avinash on Mar 17, 2010 4:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Except that there is a such thing as a nice guy with confidence.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

or a bad boy who buys a girl a drink

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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m a nice guy. I don’t buy girls drinks.

Win.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rishi, I’m curious. Is this “I don’t buy girls drinks” thing a joke, or are you really truly honestly opposed to ever paying for a girl’s drink?

by Scootie on Mar 17, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Depends. If a girl is my friend, I will voluntarily buy her a drink.

But, yes, I’m not a fan of paying for the drink of a random girl, so I just don’t do it.

Girls buying me drinks, however, are welcome.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you opposed to it or you think it’s ineffective?

by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh no, it can be effective.

I am opposed to it.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly, buying a drink for a girl you randomly meet in a bar is a truly stupid idea. Buying drinks for friends is completely awesome, even buying drinks for friend’s friend is fine, it is just the truly random ones that it is completely dumb.

by chowder on Mar 17, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure this is the exact argument that I’ve been making since I’ve been here.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure nobody actually disagrees with this argument.

by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure we’re not arguing.

by chowder on Mar 17, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve gotten so many people saying it’s ridiculous that I’d refuse to buy a random girl a drink.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I actually agree with you for the most part. I don’t know if I would make it a die hard rule like you have, but I definitely agree with the principle. You shouldn’t have to ante up just to chat withi a girl.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

shhh

you’re ruining a business model

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by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

see..i don't know....

if i’m ordering myself another round, and her’s is empty, i will usually offer to buy hers also….

the difference here i guess is that I am not interested in any more than polite drunken conversation.

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

the difference here i guess is that I am not interested in any more than polite drunken conversation.

Then why are you buying her drinks?!

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Courtesy and good-naturedness?

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep.

A gentleman buys drinks for those in conversation with, girls or boys.

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

? random what?

if i go to a bar by myself to kill a couple hours chatting up the alkies there…..i’m as likely to buy a round as not.

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by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aren’t you married?

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

exactly.

so this happens like once a year.

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by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’d relish the opportunity too.

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by Rishi on Mar 18, 2010 6:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

So if you define a bad guy as not needy and a nice guy as needy, then nice guys seem needy and bad guys don’t?

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by sec119 on Mar 17, 2010 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

People mispredict what makes them happy

What have you predicted would make you happy…but didn’t?

The researchers wrote up their findings on the lottery winners and the accident victims in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology. The paper is now considered one of the founding texts of happiness studies, a field that has yielded some surprisingly morose results. It’s not just hitting the jackpot that fails to lift spirits; a whole range of activities that people tend to think will make them happy—getting a raise, moving to California, having kids—do not, it turns out, have that effect. (Studies have shown that women find caring for their children less pleasurable than napping or jogging and only slightly more satisfying than doing the dishes.) As the happiness researchers Tim Wilson and Daniel Gilbert have put it, "People routinely mispredict how much pleasure or displeasure future events will bring."

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by Avinash on Mar 17, 2010 4:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Related

5 Things You Think Will Make You Happy (But Won’t) | Cracked.com

Check out the conclusion to the article to discover what really makes you happy.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 6:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

The older I get, the more I find “stuff” oppressive. I’m not saying that’s caused an overall drop in materialism, but it bothers me much less when I can’t swing a new toy and my expectations are lower.

It’s always been a mystery to me why people think that children will make them happy. Apparently they’ve never asked themselves whether the adults in their lives make them happy – and children don’t have the benefit of years of socialization and relative independence in getting through the day and life.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Genetic programing to procreate? Plus every parent who has grown kids says its the most rewarding thing in the world – so there is social reinforcement for that as well.

I like some of the adults in my life! You can count as half a person, since I don’t really know you. (But if I go to DC can I stay on your couch? j/k)

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by AndBears on Mar 17, 2010 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying it isn’t rewarding, and that there aren’t moments and times that make me happy to have the kids about the place. However, fielding shrieking fits about there not being enough purple clothing to put together a coordinated outfit (the seven year old, Monday) or the precise placement of hair clips (the five year old, yesterday) are not the stuff of happy dreams. It’s just a case of having realistic expectations.

As for the couch, I think you’d be better off in the guest room in your state. I don’t know how my wife will feel about putting up a complete stranger, but after the 10 day visit from a fellow camp counselor last summer, I think she’s lost hand on this issue.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’ve got so much hand, you’re coming out of your gloves?

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by Maisbikkja on Mar 17, 2010 9:04 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Plus every parent who has grown kids says its the most rewarding thing in the world

They’re hardly likely to admit the opposite even if it were true.

by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I don’t know. You don’t have to dip too far into research on gender roles and women to find mothers of adult children who would tell you that if they had it to do again, they wouldn’t bother.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

rewarding, absolutely

make you happy? f* no.

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by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s always been a mystery to me why people think that children will make them happy.

I guess I’d say that children can make you happy, but unlike a bite of chocolate or skydiving or some other immediate stimulus that floods your brain with “reward” compounds, having children has its share of immediate downsides, too. Expecting that children will make your life happy 100% of the time is folly; having kids is like owning a car or a computer. Some aspects of them will make you extremely happy (speeding through the country, connecting with an old friend via facebook are like watching a baby’s first steps or seeing them learn how to catch a ball). A lot of aspects will also make you want to kill yourself and everything around you (broken transmission, comp crashes are like your kid diarrheaing on the sofa or failing at school). Either way, all three involve constant learning, upgrading, and attention.

All three will bring happiness and at times make you happier. But they’re equally capable of doing exactly the opposite. I suppose the tipping point are the biological pressures generations of evolution have brought about in order to make you further your seed.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well said.

plus sex is fun.

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by AndBears on Mar 17, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

wooooo sex!

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by GoldBlooded on Mar 17, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s how Mother Nature lures you into the trap of the breeding imperative.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, but that’s why God invented birth control.

by Scootie on Mar 17, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

If god invented birth control, why are the Catholics so against it?

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because She worked through a Protestant?

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

every sperm is sacred.

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by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

every sperm is great…

Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!

by GoldBlooded on Mar 17, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

But what happens if a sperm is wasted?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Mar 17, 2010 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

God gets quite irate.

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by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

So are wet dreams considered crimes against Spermanity?

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

flagged for lack of monty python.

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by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because it leads to fun?

by Scootie on Mar 17, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

If that was true, the Church of Scotland would be against it.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

what is this “sex” you speak of?

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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that’s what people like us did with the missus before we had children.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

my children were immaculately conceived.

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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do they walk on water?

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not quite. Good swimmers though.

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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

How are they with fishes and loaves?

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

They hate fish but love bread

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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was really hoping for tales of the multiplication thereof.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

…Your bed was clean?

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

moving to California

Interesting that California is still supposed to be a dream land. I think this is only true for the educated and/or wealthy. Most of the people who have left California during the recession have been poorly educated or lower income, though I’m too lazy to find that study.

by sec119 on Mar 17, 2010 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

After the winter we’ve had, I’d almost be tempted to move back… almost.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

This.

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by Maharg on Mar 17, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

  1. California has been seen either as a Utopia/Distopia since its discovery. The kingdom of Queen Califia or Calafia, according to Montalvo, was said to be a remote land inhabited by griffins and other strange beasts and rich in gold, but also ruled by huge dark-skinned women.
  2. Most of the people who have left California during the recession have been poorly educated or lower income,

    This is true of any place.

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by AndBears on Mar 17, 2010 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Most of the people who have left California during the recession have been poorly educated or lower income,
This is true of any place.

Eh? What about “brain drain?” Chinese/Indians to the US for higher education, for example.

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

you make a good point, but my heuristic would say that more people would be motivated to leave a really bad situation for a vast improvement then to leave a moderate situation for a slight improvement. So the ratio would be on my side.

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by AndBears on Mar 17, 2010 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s true that migrants tend to be the factors listed above, but I meant that California has seen population decline, in comparison to states like Texas.

by sec119 on Mar 17, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

gotcha. They tried to live the dream and failed.

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by AndBears on Mar 17, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Most of the people who have left California during the recession have been poorly educated or lower income, though I’m too lazy to find that study.

Really? That actually surprises me. I always figured that the people most likely to leave California were the rich white suburbanites who got sick of the traffic and the commute, the crappy infrastructure, and the poor people, and who moved away to someplace like Texas, Colorado, or Montana.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was surprised too, since the prevailing (Republican) opinion is that the high tax rate in California will force wealthy people out of the state. But maybe not so surprisingly, wealthy people can enjoy themselves here and aren’t as affected by the high cost of living.

by sec119 on Mar 17, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tax flight is largely a myth. There’s a reason why there are shitloads of rich people and businesses in California or New York and not so many in Alabama or North Dakota – clearly there are other variables at play when people decide where to live besides state income tax rate.

by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Educated white people have been leaving the state in droves, for years, to Washington, Colorado, and Oregon, particularly in the mid 80s and early 90s. I suspect another wave is coming.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh no! Not the educated white people!?!?! Whatever will we do without the educated white people?!?!?!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who do you think sues one another all the time for the big money, counselor?

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Poor white people, having to deal with all of us ignorant minorities.

by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

tell me about it!

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by GoldBlooded on Mar 17, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

it is a great burden.

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by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s just what’s been happening, I didn’t include editorializing…sorry if you dislike it.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why would I dislike a demographic trend? I just find your obsession with race bizarre.

by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here’s an interesting map (click on California for the state statistics) which outlines inflow and outflow for each state by race and ethnicity from 2005-2007.

The group which is leaving in the highest percentages? Hispanics. However, we currently have outward migration trends for all ethnicities.

Also interesting to note on the third tab of that report, California is a very sticky state, meaning people who are born here tend to stay. Being one of them, this does not surprise me in the least. I like to say we just need another decent sized quake to get the rest of the New Jersey-ites out…

by Scootie on Mar 17, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

This doesn’t surprise me, for reasons that will get me called racist and HP’s panties deep in a knot.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

What about my panties?

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, you dont wear panties. You are all about the grape smugglers

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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve got mine in a knot!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve figured you for a knickers in a twist kinda guy.

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by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

More of a knickers in a twistnhook kinda guy, actually.

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does that make your pubic hair burst out of the sides?

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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Flagged, for revolting mental image.

by Scootie on Mar 17, 2010 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tell Twist to unknot his banana hammock then. Not my fault he is hirsute

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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

So Twist is Italian?

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

as a native also....

i can’t wait for the big one.

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by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

That statement is a flaming petard, waiting for you to be hoisted upon it. Or if you want to think of it in terms of the familiar, you’re provoking Earthquake Juju.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

You mean Poseidon?

by paleodan on Mar 17, 2010 6:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

kinda.

about 1/2 return with in 5 yrs. because while many of those places are kinda nice…..they are not generally as nice as CA most of the time.

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by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

She has a little Natalie Portman thing going on. Very nice.

by Itchy25 on Mar 17, 2010 5:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, the only really pretty one on that list.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 6:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can someone answer this question for me?

From the blurb written for Anna Sharevich:

Anna a Belarusian chessmaster, having achieved the required norms for the title Woman Grandmaster in 2006. She won the Ladies’ Belarusian Chess Championship in 2002, 2005 and 2007 and played for Belarus in the Woman’s Chess Olympiad of 2002 to 2008 (four times). She’s smart, blonde, sultry, and can kick your sub-mental ass!

She is a “Woman Grandmaster”? And there is a “Ladies” Championship and “Woman’s” Olympiad? (I also saw for the woman listed # 1 on the list won the 2008 “Women’s World Championship.”).

My queston: WHY the need for separate “women’s” chess competitions? What am I missing here?

Full disclosure: When I was in junior high, I was a borderline fat nerd player on the chess team and we competed at nationals. While the overwhelming majority of the players were boys, there were quite a few girls who competed. No separate competition or separate “girls” teams.

I am a Vereenian.

by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did you click the link? Look at the last two.

These are two of the “sexiest” female chess players.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right, because they aren’t 9.874 quality, they can’t count.

I assume they skipped this young lady from the UAE out of fatwa fears:

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

I have a hard time considering this “sexy”

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

mmmmmmmm

she can castle my king any time…

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by CruzinBears on Mar 17, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sec119, you are an unsung hero of hilarity. Keep on keepin’ on!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, we know you are American now. Or a terrorist posing as an American.

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Party in the USA!

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by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is sec119 Miley Cyrus?

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely terrorist.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Context context context. And she’s attractive, I don’t know what your deal is.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Context? I’m objectively stating that she is not sexy.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s sufficiently stupid that you could have gone to USC.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

please, just change your handle already.

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by GoldBlooded on Mar 17, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was trying to think of the second-most cutting comparison for a Cal alum, as invoking the Furd is taking the nuclear option.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

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Are you saying it’s stupid to say that she’s not sexy?

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

No. If you don’t find her attractive, that’s no skin off my nose.

However:

Context? I’m objectively stating that she is not sexy.

I’ll spot you that I could have been more clear by expanding on the word “context” to emphasize that I meant “for a chess player.” However, you cannot objectively state that she is not attractive, inasmuch as there are no common metrics for same.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m just measuring her aginst girls in general. I refuse to give into stereotypes.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I eagerly await your white paper on the subject of the phrenology of attractiveness.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s racis

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, you’re attractive.

For a scotsman!

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll take whatever I can get.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

She could crown my king anytime!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m saddened that nobody called me out on my checkers knowledge.

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought that was a checkers reference, and almost called you out for it, but figured… well fuck it

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by CruzinBears on Mar 17, 2010 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dealings with your wife aside, I do have standards.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rishi wins this round haha

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by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh no, did I get to you? :(

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

technically, you opened the box today with an opening salvo.

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by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

How hairy was his mother???

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Old

both this joke… and Rishi’s mother… who is a beautiful woman btw

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by CruzinBears on Mar 17, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would say so

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by oskisunbear on Mar 17, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I heard shes one of the world’s most attractive backgammon players!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Considering most of her competition is middle aged men from Tehran, I should hope so.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone needs to photochop an Odd Couple movie poster with these two kids on it…

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by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

We don’t know what they look like, though!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let me know when you come up with something funny.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can I let you know when you come up with something funny?

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, I’m going to need third-party verification that you have come up with something funny before you can notify me.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do we need it medallion guaranteed?

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because I like you, we’ll settle on third-party verification.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

But that was your original bargaining position!

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m trying to save the rest of you time of Twist knocking on your door to hear his jokes.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I thought you were finding an impediment to Twist rendering judgment on the quality of your humor.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, I can’t read.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, I hear if you punch the computer screen the other person can feel it in real life. Go for it!

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sonofabitch, I think that Rishi might just have hit me!

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, that was me.

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by Maharg on Mar 17, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the hell? I didn’t make you move to DC.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re responsible for this damn weather.

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by Maharg on Mar 17, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

The fuck you say. The only good thing about the snow was my wife couldn’t get a locksmith to change the locks while I was engaged in helpful tasks like spending 6 hours chipping ice out gutters.

Besides, it’s picking up now.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Word to that, today was amazing.

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by Maharg on Mar 17, 2010 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm, who did I punch, then?

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

And who left a mushroom print on my screen …? WTF?

by sec119 on Mar 17, 2010 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

You are CGB’s secret weapon!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

What happened here? I was really hoping for some poignant masala-based jokes.

Go Bruins!

by Harsha on Mar 17, 2010 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like you are PSoCYing Rishi!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Remember to dip it in egg first before you bread it. That’s key.

by sec119 on Mar 17, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

looks cute to me – wait, why am I playing this game?

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by AndBears on Mar 17, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. Knight to Q-4, Mate!

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

What's Wrong with the U.S. Education System? - Parental Neglect! If the parent is not participating, the kids stand little chance. Even 10:1 student to teacher ratios, kids will fail without parental concern.

40 minute video on public education in America. It seems taking a proactive stance on your kid’s education is a good way to get them going.

I am convinced parental participation is the key. Every kid with a parent that shows up at the school activities with their kid has a kid performing at par or better. Kids do not have the discipline to force themselves to do what’s good for them in the long run. In fact, their brains are not fully developed in the frontal lobes until their twenties, which is the area that comprehends and acts with adult reasoning.

If the parent is not participating, the kids stand little chance. Even 10:1 student to teacher ratios, kids will fail without parental concern.

Thus, when you see a kid that escapes dire childhood circumstances, it’s usually the result of an influential adult that cared far beyond what’s typical for that dismal environment.

I think Bill Cosby got it right a few years ago. If the parents create a bad environment, set bad examples, and cannot succeed themselves, the vast majority of kids will follow a similar path with similar results.

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by Avinash on Mar 17, 2010 4:38 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

This is probably true but definitely problematic, because it’s a reminder that you can only hold schools accountable for so much in terms of test results. Some people use it as an argument that school funding should be cut, but if anything it’s an argument for massively increasing resources for schools in poor neighborhoods… there’s a school in DC that’s been really successful in turning kids around, because they keep them for at least 10 hours a day and provide supervision for homework, additional tutoring. etc.

But that’s difficult because of the way that most schools are funded (property tax) and the distinct zero-sum mentality that people bring to the table about school funding when there’s a hint of variations in how the funding is distributed.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 6:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

So if we want to better educate our kids, work weeks should lower to 30 hours a week? perhaps, maintaining the 40 would be a better start?

by chowder on Mar 17, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think anyone would agree a good work life balance + good communication with kids would be a good start.

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by AndBears on Mar 17, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

THIS TIMES A BILLION TRILLION ZILLION FILLION. GOD YES SOMEONE GETS IT.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Bill Cosby got it right a few years ago. If the parents create a bad environment, set bad examples, and cannot succeed themselves, the vast majority of kids will follow a similar path with similar results.

I think Bill Cosby got it right a few years ago. If the parents create a bad environment, set bad examples, and cannot succeed themselves, the vast majority of kids will follow a similar path with similar results.

I think Bill Cosby got it right a few years ago. If the parents create a bad environment, set bad examples, and cannot succeed themselves, the vast majority of kids will follow a similar path with similar results.

I think Bill Cosby got it right a few years ago. If the parents create a bad environment, set bad examples, and cannot succeed themselves, the vast majority of kids will follow a similar path with similar results.

I think Bill Cosby got it right a few years ago. If the parents create a bad environment, set bad examples, and cannot succeed themselves, the vast majority of kids will follow a similar path with similar results.

I think Bill Cosby got it right a few years ago. If the parents create a bad environment, set bad examples, and cannot succeed themselves, the vast majority of kids will follow a similar path with similar results.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

What about the sweaters though? Can those have an adverse affect?

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

balanced out with jell-o

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by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

only with too much ZIP ZOP FLIM FLAM WITH THE SHAMMALAMMA

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

What about the filth filth flarn filth?

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking more

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Parents are the kid’s #1 teacher. Unfortunately, many parents are stupid.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, involved parents are apparently able to help their children a lot even if they ARE stupid

eg illiterate homeschooling parents successfully teaching their children to read.

That being said, it’s hard to blame many parents for not being more involved when they’re struggling just to keep their economic heads above water.

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by PaulThomas on Mar 17, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

eh.

my take is that there are to many cultural distractions that parents use as an excuse to not work with their kids.

i.e., TV, innernet foolishnes, etc.

we boot families from our school when the parents are unwilling to help the kids at home.

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by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, God forbid they want to work a 60-hour week instead of an 80-hour week

Jesus. What a bunch of fucking slackers.

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by PaulThomas on Mar 17, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm talking about the ones with stay at home moms

who still can’t take a half an hour to run times tables with their 3rd grader.

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by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps you didn’t catch this before, but Rocksanddirt’s kids go to a Waldorf school, and part of the operating principle is family involvement both at home and in the school. If you send your kids to a Waldorf school and don’t participate, you’re just swiping time from other people.

And it doesn’t take 20 hours a week to reinforce primary education.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure it does: 10 hours spent playing the recorder and 10 hours of eurythymy.

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by CalBear81 on Mar 17, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

The gestures that build the basic movement repertoire of a eurythmist are connected to the sounds and rhythms of language, to the tonal experience of music, to fundamental soul experiences (such as joy and sorrow). Once this fundamental repertoire is mastered, it can be composed into free artistic expressions. The eurythmist also works to cultivate a feeling for the qualities of straight lines and curves, the directions of movement in space (forward, backward, up, down, left, right), contraction and expansion, and color.

Heck, this could easily take 20 hours a week all by itself!

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by CalBear81 on Mar 17, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know, those aren’t what you’d call exacting specifications. A couple shimmies and deep knee bends might suffice.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

So much for your “fundamental soul experiences.”

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by CalBear81 on Mar 17, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

He went to USC — he can only have so much of a human connection.

by Yes We Cannon on Mar 17, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have the spiritual sensitivity of a small rock. A former office mate, who was very Catholic and concerned about the state of my eternal soul, once described me as “invincibly ignorant,” which she claimed was some sort of canon law label for people of limited metaphysical scope. I remain convinced she was trying to make sure that she could insult me with impunity by citing religious harassment if I complained.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m going to have to yield to Rocksanddirt on this one, because I don’t want to be accused of being a troglodyte again on this particular subject.

For those of us who consign our children to public schools, you can assume that there’s no need for 20 hours of toneless cacophony or getting on of the groove.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

publick skool was good enuff 4 me!

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clearly you need to start spending evenings together as a family playing the recorder and cultivating a feeling for the qualities of straight lines.

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by CalBear81 on Mar 17, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d sooner start a family oboe quartet.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oboes are nice.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sure they are – and a better choice than the violin for getting something out of it later on.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Will you invite us to your first recital?

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by CalBear81 on Mar 17, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely. The schedule is plus / minus never at this point.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm told starting the oboe is a lot

like dental work without anethstesia, and using tools from home depot.

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s that or the bagpipes.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

That could well be – but I have a cultural predisposition to like the fine sound of the bagpipes.

by DC Trojan on Mar 18, 2010 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

if people spent the hours they now spend on american idol

on their kids education…..this would be a different country.

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by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t have kids. Can I please watch Idol tonight?

by Scootie on Mar 17, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just as long as you don’t insist on reading about it on CNN.com tomorrow.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is so true. My mom is a high school math teacher (also used to to teach Chemistry at one point) in a San Jose HS (not the area with Asians and Indians but rather with Hispanics and poorer people). She tells me it’s night and day between the students whose parents taken even a casual interest in their kid’s education versus those who don’t give a shit.

Now that said I’ve seen the other extreme having gone to a HS with 85% Asians. My god some of those Asian parents were fucking scary and outright horrible

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Mar 17, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

SC has a program for kids who are identified as being promising but not quite getting it together in junior high – if they and their parents are willing to sign up for after school and summer programs through high school, and stick with it, they get a scholarship to SC (either 4 years of undergrad or 2 years of grad, last I checked). But the parental involvement is critical, partly to keep the kids on track and partly to keep parents from throwing them off.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

But they have to play football and be open to improper financial benefits to secure the scholy right?

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by CruzinBears on Mar 17, 2010 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

No no no, those are the promising kids identified by the athletic department. The ones I’m talking about are the ones whose teachers think they have academic potential but haven’t quite figured out how to access it.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

No no no, those are the promising kids identified by the athletic department United States China Marketing

Fixed.

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless United States China Marketing has started taking kids from Shanghai and setting them up in South Central middle schools, I doubt it.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Up-and-coming lawyers, think about Sunderland university

Space law to be a new subject offered.

Would-be lawyers at a British university are taking a lesson from the Starship Enterprise and boldly going into the potential legal conundra of outer space.

For the first time in a UK syllabus, a module on law and the legal system beyond Earth’s atmosphere will be included as an option for students starting at Sunderland University in September.

“It is a fascinating topic, which many students will benefit from studying,” said Viv Kinnaird, dean of the faculty of business and law.

Topics already arising in the field include gaps in health and safety for potential space tourists, and damage to satellites from other objects orbiting the Earth. Looking further ahead, some lawyers have raised questions about land titles on the moon or other planets.

Chris Newman, one of the lecturers who will be teaching the module, said: “It is a growing area which has relevance across commercial, company, property, environmental, intellectual property and IT practice sectors. We think that our qualification will offer valuable knowledge in a fascinating area.”

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by Avinash on Mar 17, 2010 4:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Just predicting...

“Space law” will basically be maritme law applied to outer space instead of the ocean.

I am a Vereenian.

by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

that would seem to be easiest.

and most rational when space craft become real ships, not the death pods they are now.

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by Rocksanddirt on Mar 17, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes but, have you been to Sunderland? I haven’t but its supposedly a dumpasaurus of cosmic proportions.

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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

My grandparents used to live outside of Newcastle, which was bad enough. Sunderland has never struck me as an upgrade.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really enjoyed Durham for the one night I was there. Though, I got the distinct feeling I would have been bored out of my mind if I stayed any longer.

by chowder on Mar 17, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve only ever taken the train through, but it’s a nice looking town.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Durham is the King of northeastern towns

Sunderland is the, oh, I don’t know, tenant farmer’s hired-in help, if there could possibly be such a thing?

by Scootie on Mar 17, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

After having BBC World and CNN Asia as my major news sources for 10 of the last 15 years, I realize one thing.

CNN USA sucks major donkey balls.

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 5:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do you blame CNN or blame the public for this?

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 6:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

blame the dealers or the users?

I don’t know, but whoever put Nancy Grace and Lou Dobbs on my TV deserves a punch in the neck.

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

blame the dealers or the users?

I don’t know, but whoever put Nancy Grace and Lou Dobbs on my TV deserves a punch in the neck.

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

If CNN didn’t post all the American Idol nonsense etc on their frontpage, some other news source would and CNN.com would lost market share. They’re just catering to market forces.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

So people are morons is what you’re saying.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 7:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’re drawing your own conclusions here. All I said is that what you see on cnn.com America is them catering to market forces in order to maintain market share.

(In the interest of fairness, when I got to work today, after checking my e-mail, I didn’t load up Reuters or The Economist or Bloomberg — I loaded up articles about Lost. Yet, I consider myself well-versed on world affairs)

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 7:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

the Economist is reserved for toilet time. and airline flights.

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Economist.com is a great place to get quick snippets in the morning.

But that came after Lost.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

The BBC World News podcast is my walk to work listening.

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by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

The all-Akon, T-pain, Kanye, Flo Rida, and Lil Wayne network is mine.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Howard 100 right here! “Anything else, Robin?”

by Itchy25 on Mar 17, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am completely okay with making a baseless accusation that most people who take an interest in American Idol aren’t doing it because they are clever people who are “slumming” in intellectual terms.

I mean seriously, look at the kinds of comments you get on cnn.com or any mass market web site and remember why the word “average” is pejorative.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

my parents love American Idol – and they’re both pretty intelligent people. My dad’s got a PhD, you know!

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not saying that liking American Idol and being intelligent are mutually exclusive. Two of the biggest consumers of junk television I know are PhDs – a NASA research scientist and a social historian. I don’t think that my disdain for it means that I am clever.

That said, statistically speaking there a lot of stupid people who think that American Idol = news.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do they read articles on CNN.com about decoding American Idol judges?

by Yes We Cannon on Mar 17, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, they just watch the show.

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

And why are we criticising CNN.com for trying to capture market share in this manner?

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because they present themselves as a news organization taking advantage of legal protections created to have a press that is able to keep the electorate informed of the events of the day – when in reality they present pap pandering to populist prejudices.

If they just said, we’re showing whatever we have to show in order to keep advertising rates up, and there might be some substantive content in there occasionally, then I would applaud them for being honest about their business model. But most companies – at least the ones who don’t sell software – avoid calling their customers stupid.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m explicitely differentiating here between CNN and CNN.com.

Realistically, news organisations have the duty to keep the “masses” informed and tell the truth.

I don’t think they have any sort of obligation in what they frontpage on their website vs what’s on the sidebar.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

So your argument is that the quality of the news can vary according to the distribution channel?

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

While true, that isn’t my argument.

Are you arguing that the news reporting on politics on CNN.com or is it just the presentatoin?

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not following the syntax of your question. Typo?

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, just me not speaking clearly.

If CNN.com has an article on, say, the health care bill, are you taking issue with the article itself and the actual news reporting of this issue, or are you, as this discussion seems to be about, taking issue with the fact that it’s a small link on the front page, while American Idol is the big attention grabber?

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

In this case, the placement on the page. I haven’t read their online content enough to know if the actual content is any good, but my prejudice is that it will not be.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but if they’re an actual news organization, then they shouldn’t care about the market for American Idol Bullshit News.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s the point, news organizations realize they can make more $$$ by posting stupid stories about American Idol and flag pins and Tiger Woods than by actually keeping people informed about the issues.

by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kind of makes you question the whole for-profit news model, doesn’t it?

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

THIS – had a prof predict this in 2000. I would hope that with the rise of the internets there could be more market differentiation – so that TMZ could be TMZ and News could be NEWS. That said, I still go to news.bbc.co.uk for my information.

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by AndBears on Mar 17, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a circular problem → people are under-educated/uninformed, therefore they are more likely to consume useless information about shit like American Idol, therefore they remain uninformed…

You see a similar cycle in politics – people are responsive to BS rhetoric, which motivates politicians to employ such rhetoric rather than actually talking about the issues, which…

by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yup.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

But they’re companies too!

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why is American Idol not news?

by sec119 on Mar 17, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, it’s news. But it’s not important news. “I ate breakfast this morning” is also technically news, but it’s not anything anyone else should really care about.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Royrules disagrees with you.

by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m touched that he cares so much about my eating habits.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it’s harmless and it makes people happy, so I don’t really care if CNN chooses to report on it.

by sec119 on Mar 17, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Flagging myself for enjoying Kristi Lu Stout, Stanfurd graduate, CNN Asia anchor

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I flag you too.

I am a Vereenian.

by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

she’s also very nice in person.

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I bet she is, nudge nudge wink wink

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

know what I mean, guv’nor? say no more!

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

She’s a Lynbrook High school grad – my high school!

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Mar 17, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, small world. My wife went to Lynbrook. She played basketball with Ms. CNN’s younger sister.

by Kodiak on Mar 17, 2010 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

What a small world. I am Reginald Von Lynbrook. That school was named after me!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha. That was funny Twist.

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by since1997 on Mar 17, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

CNN

bringing you weathermen standing outside in a hurricane yelling incomprehensibly into a microphone and crying spouses of murder victims since 1984.

The classic moment was during the swine flu panic, when “Doctor” Sanjay Gupta sneaked into a hospital in Mexico that had soldiers stationed outside to enforce a quarantine.

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by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2010 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPHRIvQQRUI

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

This might have a little something to do with what the populace wants. A majority of the US viewers/readers couldn’t give a shit about East Jerusalem and would rather read about American Idol.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Mar 17, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think both should be bombed back into the stone age.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Said 1000 comments earlier.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jury refuses to convict pot dealers father and son duo, felt sorry for the dad.

LINK

But last week, the case went south and the two men, Thomas Chang, 62, and his son, Errol Chang, 30, were acquitted by a San Francisco jury.

Their defense? They needed the marijuana for a variety of maladies, from nightmares to neck pain to schizophrenia. Both had a cash-only doctor’s recommendation to use the drug.

The father, a retired security guard, truck driver, patrol special police officer and teacher, said he and his son both needed at least four cigar-sized joints a day to make it through.

Prosecutors ran straight into a new wrinkle in medical marijuana cases. No longer is there a set standard for what can clearly be seen as cultivation, as opposed to personal use. Instead, a jury is charged with determining what is considered reasonable for a person’s medical needs….

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by Avinash on Mar 17, 2010 4:55 AM PDT reply actions  

Awhile back (I believe it was during Fall finals) somebody posted an article discussing the best places on the Cal campus to study. I was wondering if anyone remembers where this article came from and could possibly link? Thanks so much.

by Itchy25 on Mar 17, 2010 5:13 AM PDT reply actions  

This one, which includes secret study spots, such as FSM and the Main Stacks?

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 6:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s the one. Thanks Rishi =)

by Itchy25 on Mar 17, 2010 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’ve heard of the Main Stacks, too???

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have, but I cannot find it! It’s so well-hidden!

(PS, wanna discuss Lost?)

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, but let’s just keep writing LOST SPOILER ALERT in the title to be safe.

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s thoughtful of you.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOST SPOILER ALERT

It seems to me that, in the sideways world, those who followed the Man In Black dont’ have good lives. Sawyer is a cop, but he’s still going around trying to kill Anthony Cooper. Kate is still on the run from the cops. Jin, last we saw, had a different last name from Jin and is tied up in the freezer. Sayyid gets to see Nadia, but she’s married to his brother. It’s could be a “Faustian bargain” to use a cliched term.

On the flip side, those who follow Jacob seem to have better lives. Dojen is with his son. Jack, at the end, has a good relationship with his son. There’s an upcoming episode entitled “Everybody Loves Hurley”.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOST SPOILER ALERT

I honestly don’t care for the parallel reality. Id rather have more action in our actual world. What’s the point?

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOST SPOILER ALERT

The two will merge at some point and it will make sense. There are different theories as to how they will merge. Some think the sideways world is an “afterlife” or an “epilogue” of sorts (maybe Juliet and Dogen are already there).

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOST SPOILER ALERT

I’m beginning to lose faith that things will ever make sense.

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOST SPOILER ALERT

Remember, they said they won’t answer all questions by the season finale.

But this one they said they will addres and they said the two timelines will merge.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOST SPOILER ALERT

We’ve already encountered Hurley, and he said he was the luckiest man in the world.

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by AndBears on Mar 17, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOST SPOILER ALERT

True story. I forgot about htat.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yesterday’s episode was kind of boring. But I liked seeing the [spoiler]Sawyer-Miles[/spoiler] partnership.

by Shadwhand on Mar 17, 2010 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I actually liked the episode for the most part, but the twist at the end wasn’t really a twist.

Also, next week’s episode is going to be friggin’ epic.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOST SPOILER ALERT

I agree

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do the Lost writers push idea balls around with their noses?

by Itchy25 on Mar 17, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL! Rec’d!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know. Main Stacks, FSM, Off Campus Coffee Houses?? How come nobody ever told me about any of those!! I can’t believe how secret those places are. Nobody ever knows to study there.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't remember the hours

but the new music library is pretty quiet/deserted; the upper level has comfy chairs scattered around the outer edge of the stacks looking out windows. It’s not as pretty as the old music library reading room but more useful for studying (and seemingly less crowded).

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by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2010 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet, I’ll check that out. From the link Rishi posted I really like the look of that philosophy library in Moses.

by Itchy25 on Mar 17, 2010 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would study at the Ethnic Studies Library. Nobody was ever in there!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of course you would, you’re an imperialist from a colonizing power.

by sec119 on Mar 17, 2010 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

JAI HO THIS, BITCH!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

flagged

TMI re Twist’s fiber consumption

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by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2010 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

…which one?

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m confused…who did the Jews colonize and oppress?

by paleodan on Mar 17, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh sure, partition’s fine when it’s not India…

by DC Trojan on Mar 18, 2010 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

That partition at least created 2 states.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 18, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

3 actually, right?

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 18, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eventually, bc Bangladesh did break away, but it was part of Pakistan initially.

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by TwistNHook on Mar 18, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Um, so did the UN plan for the division of Palestine. The fact that the Palestinians didn’t get their shit together and succeeded in losing territory despite military support from Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, and Syria doesn’t mean that they didn’t have their chance.

by DC Trojan on Mar 18, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I generally enjoy discussing politics, but I really don’t want to get into this particular topic. Suffice it to say that your version is a dramatic oversimplification, and it’s kind of smug to dismissively say, eh, they had their chance, oh well, so what. Whatever the UN plan was, it didn’t work, and I think there was more to it than “the Palestinians didn’t get their shit together”.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 18, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Of course it’s an oversimplification, but not by a wide margin. At some level, there was an argument about who got what territory that escalated into open warfare and one side lost badly despite having various notional advantages. But before that, the proposed partition was supposed to create two states.

As for whether it’s a question of being smug, I’d say that in my case it’s more disbelief at the first of many examples of everyday Palestinians being very badly served by their erstwhile leaders, who have had since 1948 every incentive to recast their incompetence as the result of Israeli perfidy. (Not mutually exclusive as reasons, but certainly not one or the other.)

However, if you won’t take the bait, I shall have to put the can of worms away.

by DC Trojan on Mar 18, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree. Israel certainly has done its share of wrong (and also more than their share of just and right) actions lo these past 4 decades, but stupid and corrupt Palestinian leadership screwed their people far more than Israel ever could (barring nuclear war).

There’s a reason Yasser Arafat’s wife liveS in a million-dollar flat in Paris, and the money certainly ain’t from farming, that’s for sure.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 18, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

the lower east side

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by natteringnabob on Mar 18, 2010 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Prior to the great migration to the Upper West Side?

by DC Trojan on Mar 18, 2010 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m gonna have to go with “the Upper West Side” as the correct answer.

by paleodan on Mar 18, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

My wife’s uncle (Jewish) agreed to let his wife raise the kids Catholic because they live on the Upper West Side and he figured it was hard to find anywhere more culturally Jewish than that. Or so he claims, anyway. This came up years ago when we were visiting and his response to his wife announcing that she was taking the kids to Mass was to say that he was taking me and the missus to Barney Greengrass for Brunch. The wife’s cousins were looking at their mother sort of like Henry VIII at the Pope as a result.

by DC Trojan on Mar 18, 2010 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Movin on up. To the east side. We finally got a piece of the pie.

by LeonPowe on Mar 18, 2010 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I particularly like the Main Stacks. Enter from Moffit.

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by royrules22 on Mar 17, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cal is going to the NIT!

Not talking women’s basketball. I’m talking golf.

SPRING SLATE ROLLS ON AT NATIONAL INVITATIONAL TOURNAMENT
Cal’s spring slate rolls on at the 2010 National Invitational Tournament hosted by the University of Arizona this Wednesday-Thursday, Mar. 16-17. The 54-hole event will take place at Omni Tucson National with the first 36 holes scheduled to be played Wednesday and the final 18 set for Thursday. Play begins each day at 7:30 a.m. PDT.

CAL SLIDES TO NO. 21 AND NO. 25 IN RANKINGS
Cal dropped three and four places respectively in the latest national rankings and is now ranked No. 21 by Golfweek and No. 25 according to Golfstat. The Bears were No. 18 and No. 21, respectively, before finishing ninth out of 16 teams in its most recent outing Mar. 8-9 at the Fresno Lexus Classic. The Bears began the spring ranked No. 30 (Golfweek) and No. 33 (Golfstat) but have been as high as No. 16 (Golfweek) after winning its first tournament of the 2010 spring season Feb. 1-2 at the Arizona Intercollegiate in Tucson. Their highest position in the Golfstat rankings this season is No. 21.

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 6:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Time to get a Ben Braun National Championship!

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by BeastMode on Mar 17, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Women's LAX travels to Connecticut this weekend

Seems like the Connecticut schools would want to travel west this time of year, but tevs.

This Week
California leaves the friendly confines of Memorial Stadium to play its next four games on the road. The Golden Bears (1-4, 0-1 in the Mountain Pacific Sports Federation) start with two games in Connecticut, playing at Quinnipiac (1-3, 1-0 Northeast Conference) on Friday, March 19, at noon PT in Hamden and at Fairfield (4-1, 0-0 Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference) on Sunday, March 21, at 9 a.m. PT. The Bears had played their first five games in the Golden State. On Friday, they’ll take on the Bobcats at the Quinnipiac Field Hockey & Lacrosse Turf Field and on Sunday they’ll take on the Stags at Alumni Stadium.

Cal has a 1-0 record in the series with Quinnipiac, after a 14-8 win over the Bobcats in 2008 in Berkeley. This is the first time the Bears will face Fairfield.

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 6:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Baseball game at Evans Diamond today

Playing another Houston school

The University of California baseball team (9-5), which just finished going 2-2 last weekend at then-No. 9-ranked Rice, returns home for a non-conference game against Houston (8-5), Wednesday, March 17 at 2:30 p.m. at Evans Diamond. Last weekend at Reckling Field in Houston, the Golden Bears won the first two games of the four-game series against the highly-ranked Owls, 8-6 and 6-4. Houston is fresh off a sweep of Cal Poly – 13-8, 6-2 and 5-3 – March 12-14 in San Luis Obispo. The Cougars play at San Francisco Tuesday (March 16).
Starting on the mound Wednesday for Cal will be senior left-hander Chris Petrini, who finished 4-3 last season with a 3.98 ERA and 36 strikeouts in 43.0 innings. Petrini ended the 2009 season on a high note when he threw a complete-game, two-hit shutout (6-0) of USC. In that game he only yielded one walk and tied a career-high with nine strikeouts against the Trojans. Freshman right-hander James Conlee (0-0, 0.00 ERA) is slated to start on the mound for Houston.

Cal, despite losing the last two games of the Rice series, 26-11 and 7-4, had some outstanding performances in Houston. In game one March 11, sophomore right-hander Erik Johnson threw 6.0 innings with two hits, no runs, one walk and six strikeouts in the 8-6 win. He is 3-0 on the year and has not given up an earned run in 19.0 innings. In those 19.0 innings, Johnson has recorded 20 strikeouts with only four walks.

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 6:35 AM PDT reply actions  

note

Cal will be travelling to Cal-Poly this weekend for a series; as noted Houston just swept them for 3.

Also, USF beat Houston 3-2 yesterday in an oddly low-scoring game on a very warm and dry day in the city, ending the Cougars’ 6-game winning streak:

http://www.usfdons.com/sports/m-basebl/recaps/031610aaa.html

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by natteringnabob on Mar 17, 2010 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also Rice beat #2 Texas yesterday 10-6

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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rugby Homecoming Game vs. Saint Mary's on Saturday

Are the East Bayers and Moraga lovers here torn?

The winner of Saturday’s 1 p.m. homecoming rugby match on Witter Rugby Field between the Golden Bears and Saint Mary’s will receive a bye into the national collegiate Round of 16 as the second overall seed. The loser will host a regional playoff April 2-3 hoping to secure one of the Pacific Region’s two remaining seeds.

There are no official events before or after the matches on Saturday, with a reserve-grade contest following the First XV, but early arrival to Witter Rugby Field is encouraged. A free shuttle from the Underhill parking lot will help to offset the loss of Witter parking lot on Centennial Drive due to ongoing renovations related to Memorial Stadium and the Student-Athlete High Performance Center.

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 6:37 AM PDT reply actions  

Roll call!

Hands up!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Women's H2O polo to compete in Pacific Invitational

Saturday in beautiful Stockton

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The No. 3-ranked Cal women’s water polo team (18-5, 3-2), taking a break from MPSF competition, travels to Stockton Saturday, March 20 to compete in the Pacific Invitational, its sixth tournament of the season (15-3 mark). On Saturday afternoon, the Golden Bears will open with a match against Indiana (12:30 p.m.). Later in the day, Cal will face host Pacific (4 p.m.). Along with its 3-2 league mark, the Bears have performed well in tournaments in 2010; winning all five matches during the NorCal Invitational in Berkeley and making it to the finals of the Stanford [sic] Invitational, where it fell to then-No. 1-ranked Stanford [sic], 10-7. At the UC Irvine Invitational, Cal topped UC Davis (13-5) and No. 6 Hawaii (8-4) in day one, before falling to the Trojans (10-5) in the semifinals and being tipped by No. 3 UCLA, 7-6, in six sudden death overtime periods. The Bears’ loss to the Bruins is believed to be the longest match in NCAA women’s water polo history. At the Cal Lutheran Invitational, Cal won both of its matches against Occidental (16-4) and California Baptist (12-4). They concluded their weekend with a 7-4 loss against USC in a conference matchup. Last weekend, the Bears defeated San Diego State in an MPSF contest, 10-4. Cal then went on to win all three of its matches at the Aztec Invitational, topping No. 20 Princeton (13-4), Marist (11-0) and Maryland (14-1).

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 6:39 AM PDT reply actions  

Softball Bears play in a Hawaii tournament starting today

“Chevron Spring Fling” in Honolulu. Yes, I’m jealous

Wednesday, March 17
7 p.m. PSF – No. 12/13 Cal (19-4) vs. Lipscomb (19-2)
Rainbow Wahine Softball Stadium – Honolulu
Series Record vs. Bisons: First meeting

Thursday, March 18
6 p.m. PST – Lipscomb (19-2) vs. No. 12/13 Cal (19-4)
Rainbow Wahine Softball Stadium – Honolulu

8 p.m. PST – No. 12/13 Cal (19-4) at Hawaii (18-9)
Rainbow Wahine Softball Stadium – Honolulu
TV: KFVE in Honolulu, available online for a fee here
Series Record vs. Rainbow Wahine: 16-7, Cal
Last Meeting: W, 10-1 (5) (3/12/09)

Friday, March 19
7 p.m. PST – No. 12/13 Cal (19-4) vs. Lipscomb
Rainbow Wahine Softball Stadium – Honolulu

9 p.m. PST – No. 12/13 Cal (19-4) at Hawaii (18-9)
Rainbow Wahine Softball Stadium – Honolulu

Saturday, March 20
5 p.m. PST – No. 12/13 Cal (19-4) at Hawaii (18-9)
Rainbow Wahine Softball Stadium – Honolulu

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 6:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Ohio Bear – this looks like a very important line up and CGBs softball coverage has been severely lacking. I think you should go to Hawaii and cover this important story. (All your expenses will be your own, but might be tax deductible!)

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by AndBears on Mar 17, 2010 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, how I wish I could…

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cal tennis player is dude of the week

Looks like a lot of people voted for Pedro

California men’s tennis junior Pedro Zerbini has been named the Pac-10 Men’s Tennis Player of the Week for the week of March 8-14, Commissioner Larry Scott announced Tuesday, March 16. Arizona State junior Kelcy McKenna was selected as the conference women’s player of the week.

The third-year Golden Bear from Sao Paulo, Brazil, becomes the first player in Cal men’s tennis history to be chosen for the honor in multiple seasons and is the second player to receive as many as three awards in his career. Zerbini’s selection is the ninth overall weekly honor for the Cal men.

Zerbini helped the Bears earn a split on the road by defeating No. 51 Rice, 4-3, and falling to No. 28 Texas A&M, 5-2. Zerbini earned his 14th and 15th singles victories of the season as he claimed wins over No. 16 Austin Krajicek of Texas A&M (6-4, 6-1) and No. 25 Bruno Rosa of Rice (6-4, 6-1). Zerbini’s two wins were his seventh and eighth over ranked opponents this season.

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 6:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Men's gymnast also nabs Pac-10 dude of the week honors

Ishino!

California sophomore men’s gymnast Glen Ishino, the reigning national and Mountain Pacific Sports Federation gymnast of the week, repeated as the MPSF gymnast for the week of March 15, the conference office announced Tuesday. Ishino further established his dominance on March 13 with a 90.900 all-around win, in the No. 9 California men’s gymnastics team’s final home meet of the 2010 campaign – a 354.650-344.300 upset win over No. 6 Penn State.

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 6:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Women's gymnastics closes regular season on Saturday

Tri-meet in Denver

The California Golden Bears close out the regular season this week with a road tri-meet in the Mile High City, taking on Denver and Arizona. The meet takes place at 6:00 p.m. Mountain Time in Denver. Live stats will be available for the meet.

Last Week: Davis Tri-Meet California stayed above the 190 point threshold for the second consecutive week, earning a team score of 190.650.

All-Around Freshman Madisyn O’Brien, who has been limited by an ankle injury the previous two meets, was back to competing in the All-Around, earning a 38.075, her second highest total for the season. Avery Gee, the Bears other all-arounder, was .050 off of her season high score, earning a 38.300 total for her four scores.

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 6:46 AM PDT reply actions  

did you watch this game? the ending was a huge choke-job. ASU was up 5 with 18 seconds to go and lost

by medvjed on Mar 17, 2010 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Does anyone actually watch the NIT? Then again, I was at Nets/Hawks last night…

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by yellow fever on Mar 17, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

1999 NIT CHAMPIONS!!

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Flagged

My position on this is well documented.

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I do when I can’t find anything better to watch on TV. I watched quite a bit of the UNC/William & Mary game last night. Good game. W&M stayed in it by making 16 3’s, but then couldn’t score in the last 5 minutes. UNC won by 8.

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now and then I run a NIT bracket. Totally random and almost impossible to predict. Worse than the NCAA tournament.

And, yes, I watched, because I do not watch the NBA.

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by BeastMode on Mar 17, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t watch the ending. I watched a little bit before I went to sleep and was surprised JU was leading at the time. Saw the ending on Sports Center this morning and I facepalmed.

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have been on a conference call for 2 hours now. I started work this morning at 9:15am. It is 9:50pm. Except for my commute and lunch, I have been working 13 hours now.

Someone shoot me.

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 6:51 AM PDT reply actions  

I’ve had a conference call as late as 11:30 PM. That was an exciting day, let me tell you. And then I got to get up and do it all over again the next day!

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by yellow fever on Mar 17, 2010 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I used to have a monthly global one – it wasn’t so bad in Hong Kong 11pm-Midnight. The poor Australians and Japanese were up at 1 and 2 in the morning.

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s one thing I don’t have to worry about with civilian federal work… aside from the occasional weekend when we’re having a pre-release crisis (TWSS).

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh if only.

Actually, our customers do have a bad habit of expecting us to work weekends to make up for their schedule errors, with no warning. I don’t mind, but throwing a fit on Friday that someone has a family event on Saturday isn’t quite how this is supposed to work.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many hours is considered normal in China?

by sec119 on Mar 17, 2010 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Depends on if I’m a bank teller (2 hours a day), local government official (only if you count hanging out at hostess clubs and “banquets” as work), factory work (22 hours a day) construction worker (24 hours a day) or Shanghai white collar office drone (9am – 6:30pm but most of it is spent gossiping loudly, especially in your Chinese American colleague’s ear while he is trying to simultaneously write an email, listen to Roxy Bernstein call a basketball game and flirt with the girl he met over the weekend on MSN)

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yesterday I was at work from 8:15am – 10pm =(

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Out of curiousity

Is CGB looking to “clean up” the DBD? That’s the only assumption I can make based on the form we have been asked to fill out. I answered it briefly but honestly (mostly).

Or is this an attempt to see if people don’t traffic to the site because of the DBD (the greatest creation know to Western Civilization since the advent of sliced bread)?

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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 7:30 AM PDT reply actions  

What about lunch? Surely lunch must provide entertainment!

by Itchy25 on Mar 17, 2010 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is but an hour. That still leaves like 8 hours.

I think it is difficult for those who do not have jobs (or have jobs that allow them out of their office) to understand the service provided here.

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

This

Things to Remember: Girls usually don't like it when you yell out "Beast Mode!" when switching to doggy style. - TFLN

by CruzinBears on Mar 17, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

second breakfast, elevenses, luncheon, afternoon tea, dinner and (later in the evening) supper

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Elevenses… that’s where I’ve been going wrong, skipping that. I’ll be back shortly.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Won’t somebody think of the grandmothers? Keep Twist occupied! Keep grandmothers housed!

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

The DBD is one of the few things that keeps me entertained throughout the course of my day at work. If the DBD is seriously compromised in any way, it would make me rethink my dedication to this website. Pretty much all the work reading and posting that I do in this website is designed to keep me from having to think about work during the day, so if that carrot ends, I’m not sure if I’d still be as interested in co-managing this site living.

Fixed to reflect my own personal feelings.

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only difference is that I am being serious.

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 8:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Except for the last word, I’m serious.

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

ha!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Living isn’t serious?

its spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-O-B-L-I-G-A-T-E-D-T-O-D-O-I-T"

by JShufelt on Mar 17, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well played.

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

And I thought it was spelled

“S-H-U-F-E-L-T-M-E-U-P.” I got that rong?

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think your first sentence could have been written by 90% of CGB readers.

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by BeastMode on Mar 17, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think your first sentence could have been written by 90% of CGB readers commenters.

It’s the people that don’t comment that we’re trying to work into the picture.

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by yellow fever on Mar 17, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, guys, we’re doing this dance again.

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

the “it’s football offseason time and things slow down” annual discussion :)

?

by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

BECAUSE THE INTERNETZ IS SERIOUS BUSINESS

Someone hit me with a photoshop here.

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by yellow fever on Mar 17, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

These questions are really redundant.

“Is the DBD fine?”
“Do you like the DBD?”
“What do you like about the DBD?”
“What would you change about the DBD?”

by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Reply fail, this was for YF.

by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

but yet, makes perfect sense in both cases.

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by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

ITS GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

THAT’S WHAT SHE SAID!!!

by HolmoePhobe on Mar 17, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, someone finally did it right!

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

OMG Holmoephobe!

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hear you. Though, I’m not really sure this site needs more commenters or that changing things would increase the readership of non-commenters.

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by BeastMode on Mar 17, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

If he violates team rules when it matters most why not just kick him off the team?

Clearly the team is not this guys’ first priority. I saw him cruising around Berkeley after the ASU game with, how do i put this, some questionable characters. Dude sure knows how to keep it real though.

by 33SwisherSweet on Mar 17, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

And here I thought you were always about keeping it real!

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by yellow fever on Mar 17, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

until keeping it real goes wrong.

?

by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Further conjecture/hearsay supporting my position that Amoke keeps it real (also from BI)

“I knew this was bound to happen. I am a student at Berkeley and we had a party the night before the ASU game.. Probably the biggest game of the season, but didn’t seem like it mattered to Amoke. He was there and was drinking. Very surprised he started against ASU. He has bad judgment and probably was suspended for a similar incident.”

by 33SwisherSweet on Mar 17, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

one time i was at the mcd’s at university and shattuck, and amoke was quite adamant that he ordered a mcchicken, and was angered that he had received a mcdouble. a good time was had by all!

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by GoldBlooded on Mar 17, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

So maybe Amoki should have played for Todd “I Don’t Want Ham Sandwiches” Bozeman?

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I once saw Lamond Murray at 4am at the El Cerrito Nation’s. He had 2 slices of pie (I was getting a burger to finish my paper that was due at noon).

Later that night, he dropped 28 points on some team. I turned in my paper on time. Boo-yah.

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t ask. you don’t ask questions of the pac 10 leading scorer and rebounder.

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just remember that strawberry pie is some serious shit. Two of those would make me diabetic for life.

by paleodan on Mar 17, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

fail

You can’t play like a star athlete if you don’t eat like a star athlete.

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by natteringnabob on Mar 18, 2010 7:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

what a fucking idiot

by medvjed on Mar 17, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

That is a real shame, I wonder what he actually did…

Big hit for the Bears… I guess we just don’t like playing top flight talent at full strength…

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by CruzinBears on Mar 17, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shit.

It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.

by BeastMode on Mar 17, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

How does this affect our lineups?

Amoki averaged about 17 minutes a game. Who gets those minutes now?

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

In a playoff, I think you just shorten the bench and extend the minutes of the starters.

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by BeastMode on Mar 17, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oy, that’s not a good start to the Tourney.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I bet he violated the 5-second rule. That’s grounds for banning.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

too bad Montgomery didn’t change to the 10 second rule

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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Mar 17, 2010 10:15 AM PDT reply actions  

Spring practice report from YO

Team practices tomorrow and then not again until March 30

Cal practiced for the third time this spring tonight and I asked Tedford afterward is any players from last year’s scout team have stood out so far. He singled out cornerbacks Steve Williams and Vachel Samuels, defensive linemen Keni Kaufusi and DeAndre Coleman and running back Desarte Yarnway. He also said linebacker Chris Little, who played some as a backup last season, "is making an impact."

 One thing Tedford stressed is that he wants to make sure he rotates players often during the spring to make sure everybody gets a chance to take first team reps. When talking about Coleman, whom Tedford clearly is excited about, he said "what we have to do is make sure we evaluate DeAndre against the No. 1 guys so you can get a true evaluation. That’s why you rotate all the guys in there."

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 11:07 AM PDT reply actions  

Williams is going to be a baller.

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by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m quite excited about Yarnway.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever, Williams is better.

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by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

…Can’t we be excited about both? Coleman is supposed to be a beast, too. It’s spring! It’s time for hope.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

nope, just Williams.

Ok, I’m actually excited for a lot of them. Although a lot of it won’t matter if the OL doesn’t get its act together…

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by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

The OL and secondary are the keys to success, I think. If they play well, the talent in the rest of the units should be enough.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

How about we cheer them all on?

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by oskisunbear on Mar 17, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll cheer 4/5ths of the OLine, but if that Right Tackle receives even one iota of my cheering energy, I’m OUT!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.

by oskisunbear on Mar 17, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

da schwartz!

My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.

by oskisunbear on Mar 17, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see your schwartz is as big as mine…

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by CruzinBears on Mar 17, 2010 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate it when I get my Schartz twisted.

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by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait you go there, let me put my foot here and…

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by CruzinBears on Mar 17, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best and worse case scenarios

According to Pat Forde.
With Amoki out, perhaps we’ve inched closer to worst.

California (8)

Best Case: Playing with fury for a scorned league, the Golden Bears come out flying. Jerome Randle is bombing from deep, Patrick Christopher is operating smoothly from the wings and Cal beats Louisville. Next, Duke transfer Jamal Boykin goes off on his old team for 20 points and 15 rebounds in leading a Cal upset of the Blue Devils. Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott rushes the floor and jumps on the Golden Bears’ dogpile at midcourt. Cal doesn’t stop until Baylor beats it in the regional final, its best showing in 50 years. And last anyone checked, Stanford [sic] still stunk [emphasis added].

Worst Case: Fury for a scorned league is nice, but what if the league deserved to be scorned? Beaten up inside by Louisville, Cal is quickly dismissed in the first round while Washington also is eliminated in its first game. The Pac-10 commissioner begs UCLA to get good again in a hurry. The Golden Bears complete a season of across-the-board underachievement in football and men’s basketball.

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 12:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Ted Miller is a sex-ay beast:

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  1. This is an extremely thorough point-counterpoint on how Chip Kelly handled Oregon’s recent off-field challenges, which you may have read about

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice work everyone! Especially Twist for his non-criminal lawyer analysis!

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by BeastMode on Mar 17, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

And in many ways barely-lawyer analysis!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t take credit for that. The barely-lawyer analysis was mine. ALL MINE!

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Send it to Sandy – tell her you deserve a press pass now, for sure.

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by CalBear81 on Mar 17, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

And you wonder why I have to fight off the “Let’s Moderate The DBD” brigade.

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let them form a splinter group with a site no one reads.

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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.org? Or CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.gov? Or CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.berkeley.edu?

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

cyberbears.com

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by Fire Starkey on Mar 17, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, Lawyers might not be all bad...

Bringing this DBD full circle, if you binge drink tonight in SF, you can have a free cab ride home courtesy of some ambulance chasers.

by Scootie on Mar 17, 2010 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

I JUST FIGURED IT OUT! OLSONIST IS DANZIG!

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Mar 17, 2010 1:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Tebow's New Throwing Motion Unveiled

Doc Saturday’s take

In a dark, dreary rain-filled day at Ben Hill-Griffin Stadium, Florida quarterback and local icon Tim Tebow hoped the sunny skies would come out and his prospect of being a top pick in this April’s NFL draft would follow. After enduring an enormous amount of scrutiny from his lackluster week at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Tim Tebow vowed to re-work his throwing motion, footwork and delivery.

The early results were good, as Tebow shortened up his delivery and showed good velocity on short routes. As the workout continued, Tebow’s flaws began to surface as he now has a pause in his throwing motion and when he rolled out, his arm would drop just as it did before. Tebow struggled as the day went on with accuracy throwing outs as his receivers had to wait or come back for the football and rarely did an out hit a receiver on the numbers. In summation, Tebow looked better throwing the football than he did in Mobile, but as one NFL scout told me, “If he didn’t wear an orange Florida helmet he’d be a sixth or seventh-round pick.”

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Tim Tebow tears are so yummy

My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.

by oskisunbear on Mar 17, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes they are. Need moar tears.

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by Swamphunter on Mar 17, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s actually a key ingredient of Gatorade.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

It will make for good tv, either when the Jaguars take a mad shot and draft him in the first rond amidst boos or when he falls down to the sixth round.

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by Rishi on Mar 17, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

We graduate between 20 and 36 percent of our basketball players?!


The bad (between 20 and 36 percent graduation rates): Cal, Arkansas Pine-Bluff, Washington, Tennessee, Kentucky, Baylor, New Mexico State (average tournament seed: 6.8)

That’s pretty awful.

by boomtho on Mar 17, 2010 2:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Theres information missing. What was the time period?

And the study is flawed. It apparently doesn’t take into account athletes that take longer?

I’m confused….. in my time at Cal I don’t recall any of our players flunking out.

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by oskisunbear on Mar 17, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

David Paris is one that I can remember off the top fo my head.

We also had several transfers and a few people go pro early. Do those count?

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

the reports dont mention transfers, but if someone goes pro early it counts against

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by oskisunbear on Mar 17, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

IIRC, transfers count against.

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

From another article at TrueHoop, ESPN’s (excellent) basketball blog:

The graduation rates of African-American ballplayers on some men’s teams are shockingly low. Five men’s teams graduate 20 percent or less of their African-American players. Two teams, Maryland and California have, six years later, graduated zero percent of their black ballplayers who entered from 1999 through 2002.

Recall that Richard Lapchick’s studies use the NCAA Graduation Success metric, which does not penalize a school for players who transfer or go to the NBA, as long as they are in good academic standing. Low graduation rates aren’t one-year flukes either. The NCAA graduation rates are based on four years of graduation rates for entering classes.

by boomtho on Mar 17, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

ah, nevermind

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by oskisunbear on Mar 17, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

1999 to 2002. That’s not really relevant now, I would hope.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who were our 1999-2002 classes?

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by Avinash on Mar 17, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Amit Tamir!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guys who entered Cal during that time period

Off the top of my head, I can think of Shipp, Wethers, Forehan-Kelly, Dennis Gates, and Donte Smith. I’m pretty sure that Gates and Forehan-Kelly graduated. Jamal Sampson was somewhere in there, too, and he left early for the NBA.

I don’t think any of those 1999 NIT guys (Carlisle, Gill, Boyd, Kilgore) were part of that time period. I think all those guys came to Cal in 1998 w/ Lamps.

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not only did Gates graduate, but he did so in three years, and was enrolled in graduate school during his senior year.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Mar 17, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

and his nickname was “The Sheriff”!

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

AND WE INTERVIEWED HIM!

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by TwistNHook on Mar 17, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

and his best friend was Quientin Richardson!

by LeonPowe on Mar 17, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is irrelevant if no one involved went to Lynbrook…..

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by turkey on Mar 18, 2010 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dr. Saturday (Yahoo! Sports) with an article about Kevin Riley):

Typecasting. Riley exists squarely in the middle of Generic Land on almost every level: He’s got good-not-great size (6’2", 223), arrived with good-not-great hype (No. 6 incoming “pro style” QB nationally in 2006, according to Rivals) and has demonstrated good-not-great athleticism in terms of both arm strength and mobility. Somehow, he manages to seem “versatile” and “limited” at the exact same time, depending on how nice you are and which day you happen to catch him on.

by boomtho on Mar 17, 2010 3:39 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm not bailing out on Riley...

But, I would like to see one of our other QBs start the season. It’ll give something both the coaches and the hardcore naysayers to think about pending that other QBs performance, because right now we don’t have a barometer on how any of our other QBs perform.

This is something we haven’t had since 2008 when Longshore lost it mentally and Riley came in (remember when he was seen as the messiah when Longshore failed to generate anything?).

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by Swamphunter on Mar 17, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

You guys fill out your census yet?

I got mine in the mail yesterday and filled it out and posted it today morning. I knew that if I didn’t do it soon I’d forget.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Mar 17, 2010 3:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Sent mine yesterday.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

YEP – done. Short form was abut 2 minutes.

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by AndBears on Mar 17, 2010 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

You make Michelle Bachmann/Glenn Beck cry.

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by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Bachmann changed her tune when she realized that her congressional seat could get eliminated if enough of her constituents don’t fill out their census forms.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its possible, I was just going for cheap humor. :)

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by turkey on Mar 17, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, her seat would be the one to go if Minnesota lost a congressional seat from the census.

by paleodan on Mar 17, 2010 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I couldn’t give a shit about Bachmann but I enjoy making Glenn Beck cry

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Mar 17, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Think of it this way

If you don’t fill out the form, you force some census taker to get paid to come to your house, thus stimulating the economy!

Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."

by PaulThomas on Mar 17, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I somehow doubt that they are clocking much dollar for that.

by DC Trojan on Mar 17, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m hiding it from my wife, hoping she forgets. Don’t want to give Ohio more seats in Congress than it deserves.

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 17, 2010 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Breakin’ the law!

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by atomsareenough on Mar 17, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Proper Flag Procedure

When you flag something, we see your complaint, however we often have trouble finding the offensive comment because the SBN platform does not tell us the exact comment which you found offensive. So if you really do want to point something in specific to us, please copy the link to that specific offensive comment into your complaint so we can see it. The SBN platform software will only tell us what offensive comment you have flagged if that offending commenter put something in the subject line. As since most of us don’t use the subject line (except for 33SwisherSweet), it’s hard for me to see what exactly is being flagged; I can only really see whom in particular you have flagged.

If you’re just flagging somebody to be funny and it’s no big deal, then you probably don’t have to bother putting the actual offensive comment URL. But if you’re legitimately flagging something and want us to know about it, it helps if you put the offensive comment’s URL into your complaint.

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by HydroTech on Mar 17, 2010 4:40 PM PDT reply actions  

who got flagged now? Hope it wasn’t me. Actually does anyone flag me at all? I wasn’t listed in your Flags DBD.

(waits for the deluge of flags)

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by royrules22 on Mar 17, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec’d

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by CalBear81 on Mar 17, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fun link for today

Playboy accidentally played out on childrens TV. Apparently in Northern California

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by AndBears on Mar 17, 2010 7:26 PM PDT reply actions  

North Carolina = Northern California now?

by GeoFreak on Mar 18, 2010 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

oh, reading fail. No wonder I didn’t recognize the counties.

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by AndBears on Mar 18, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I HATE YOU PS3 (the class not the console to which I am indifferent)

by Itchy25 on Mar 18, 2010 12:46 AM PDT reply actions  

PS 2 with Jowitt was one of my favorite classes at Cal. I can’t remember a single thing from PS 1 or 3. But I can still tell you about 25% of the reading list for PS2.

by LeonPowe on Mar 18, 2010 3:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

PS 3 = Prof. Gregor?

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by Ohio Bear on Mar 18, 2010 6:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Prof. Gregor is actually no longer teaching. I believe he had some health related issues.

by Itchy25 on Mar 18, 2010 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

PS3 is annoying. Empirical, right? I did it at the same time as stats, so it worked out, bc they were teaching the same shit. You majoring in PS, Itchy?

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by TwistNHook on Mar 18, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Carp definitely majored in PS.

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by atomsareenough on Mar 18, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

LAWL

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by GoldBlooded on Mar 18, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m a PS major. No plans for law school though =(

by Itchy25 on Mar 18, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh and yes, PS3 is the annoying, research methods course.

by Itchy25 on Mar 18, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because I’m kind of a prick.

Kind of?!?!?!?!?

All aboard the Jerome Randle Smart Car!

by rollonubears on Mar 18, 2010 1:01 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm drunk now

So I’m going to say you’re alright kid. You are ALLLRIGHT.

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