And You Thought Pac-10 Refs Couldn't Get Any Worse
There was a bizarre incident at the Cal-Stanford women's semi-final game on Saturday involving one of the referees. As you all know, Alexis Gray-Lawson suffered a very frightening injury, that was eerily reminiscent of Jahvid Best's injury against Oregon State. After hard, but entirely clean, contact with three Stanford players, she fell backward onto the floor and hit her head. The TV announcers said that her head hit so hard that they could clearly hear the sound of it from where they were sitting. As Lexi lay on the floor, the refs allowed the game to continue until the next stoppage of play.
Once play was finally stopped, there was dead silence in the Galen Center as Lexi was tended to, her mother and Coach Boyle at her side. After about 15 minutes, her head and neck were immobilized, and she was taken off the floor on a stretcher. During the frightening silence, a fan yelled out from the stands that the refs were "stupid," apparently referring to the refs allowing play to continue while Lexi lay on the floor with what could have been a very serious injury. (Thankfully, she seems to be doing very well.) That's all there was: one single, non-profane insult, yelled out by a single fan in a moment of extreme stress. None of this showed up on the TV broadcast, so I will quote the description of what happened next from C and R's Stanford Women's Basketball Blog (who kindly gave me permission to quote their description):
There was a very scary moment right before the 5 minute mark in the second half. Stanford was up 56-32. Michelle Harrison blocked Cal’s Alexis Gray Lawson and she hit the deck. Stanford grabbed the rebound and hustled down the court while Alexis lay motionless on the floor. Play kept continuing and the refs did not stop play for the injured player.
Now, it is unclear to C and R of the refs have discretion to stop play whenever a player goes down or if they have to wait for a dead ball to check on the injured player. Or if they just didn’t know she was laying back there in the back court. So the game continued on for 12 seconds until there was a break in the action and the refs finally called an official time out to check on Alexis.
Sooo, from the fans point of view, the refs were either heartless or clueless.
Soooo, as the medical crew was checking on Alexis and both teams were huddled by their benches and it was very, very quiet in the building, a female fan (not us) yelled, "You refs are stupid!" That’s it, one sentence, no curse words, no badgering. Unfortunately, the lady ref we don’t like heard her and said, "I heard you call me stupid."
Sooooooo, the ref, let’s call her Melissa, called over security and wanted the fan thrown out. Two big guys went to the section and were unsure what to do, who was it, was it that bad, was it this little old lady, so they just told the section to be quiet. The ref kept wanting someone thrown out and the staff didn’t want to throw anybody out. The fan seemed pretty pacified by this point. (BTW, if you know who that fan is, please email us so we can buy her an adult beverage!)
http://www.womenssportsinformation.com/blog.html
C and R added in an email to me that there was absolutely no profanity or vulgarity by the fan, and that the security people seemed quite embarrassed at being told to eject the fan, whom they couldn't identify anyway. They ended up just telling the people in the section "Y'all be quiet!"
I find it absolutely incredible that a referee would go off on a personal ego trip like this while a player was laying on the floor with what could have been a very severe injury. And since when is yelling that the refs are "stupid" a reason to eject a fan? If that is the standard for ejection, I should probably have been kicked out of every sporting event I have ever attended. Certainly, if a fan gets in a ref's face or engages in loud and prolonged taunting of the ref, there may be reason to eject him or her. But this was just ridiculous. If a ref can't tolerate having someone yell from the stands that she is stupid, then she needs to find another line of work.
All this has left me with several questions. What are the rules about stopping the game for injury? Do the refs have the power to stop the game immediately in the case of what appears to be a very serious injury? I recall the men's game earlier this year continuing for some time when Jorge was injured, but he wasn't laying motionless on the floor. If the refs don't have the power to stop the game in the event of a serious injury, shouldn't they be given that power? My next question is what power the refs have to eject fans. Is it completely unlimited? Does this mean I can never call a referee "stupid" again without fear of being ejected? And finally -- will the Pac-10 ever do anything about its horrible refs?
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You know, despite the social disadvantage of being Furds, I have to admit a grudging admiration for this C and R duo.
Hopefully this incident finds its way to the desk of the league offices where the ref will be reviewed and dealt with accordingly. Even if there is no rule to stop play on an injury (and given the talk between Physioc and Johnson on the telecast of the men’s Cal-Furd game there may be), the ref in question acted in very poor judgment.
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It seems to me that its entirely up to the refs at the time. (feel free to correct me) They do have the power to stop play, but the player must immediately leave the court. I think those stops are pretty rare, since they don’t want a player taking a dive every time the ball is turned over.
I do remember Jorge unable to stand but still the play went on. It was perfectly legal but very uncomfortable to watch as any injury should be handled better.
As for the ref wanting the fan thrown out, that one yell seemed very very tame compared to what could have happened. That ref certainly acted in appropriately, and has to take responsibility for crowd management as well. — by this I mean taking steps to manage the crowd’s anxieties as well as their own.
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Do the refs have the power to stop the game immediately in the case of what appears to be a very serious injury?
Yes. From what it sounds like, they absolutely should have, but maybe the refs didn’t realize what was going on. They still have reffing responsibilities, and with a reffing team, they’re not all watching the ball – whoever saw it happen might have been gettign down court for their responsibility and whoever saw her lying there might not have realized she was really hurt right away – basically, it’s not implausible that they just honestly didn’t realize what was going on, and refs will often let the other team go through their possession (or at least through their fast break/secondary break) before stopping the game for an injured player – usually it’ll be something like a rolled ankle, with no need to stop play immediately, so you don’t take away the opposing team’s immediate advantage.
I always thought that with an injury refs are supposed to let the game play on. Usually, the player’s teammates take a foul to stop play, so that they may be tended to (or not suffer a 5 on 4 disadvantage).
However, most basketball injuries don’t require immediate medical attention, even if the player tore an ACL or broke a bone, the extra 20 seconds of playing time doesn’t generate further harm. With serious head injuries, the refs should use their judgement to stop play, so that they may be tended to.
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A-holes all around on that crew.
It would be different to stop the game if it was close and Furd was on a fast break, but they were up by 24 points with 5 minutes to go. Come on you fuckin’ refs!
My bigger issue is with the ref who wanted the person ejected from the Galen Center. That is just horse shit and goes to show you how some refs feel like they are above everybody else in the gym. (Dave Libbey, if you are reading this, FUCK YOU!)
I did not know this happened and the Pac10 offices will be receiving a letter from me shortly.
My bigger issue is with the ref who wanted the person ejected from the Galen Center. That is just horse shit and goes to show you how some refs feel like they are above everybody else in the gym.
So scum and unprofessional, but unfortunately, not too uncommon, either. I still could pick out one ref who had a vendetta against me back in high school…..huge douchebag. Even at the NBA level you see these guys on power trips at times, overly sensitive to any challenge of their authority. I don’t know how people get to be that way.
by Missing Barry on Mar 16, 2010 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Refs are a funny bunch. A number of them get into the business because they themselves couldn’t go beyond a certain level.
I suggest Tim Donaghy’s (former NBA ref caught gambling) book to see how crooked refs are. I haven’t read the entire thing yet but there’s a lot of interesting stuff in it. Deadspin has some excerpts.
Honestly, I wouldn’t recommend that book. He’s full of it. A number of his claims have been debunked. Maybe it has some interesting tidbits, but take everything with a large grain of salt.
Reffing alone shouldn’t produce the problems it does – I reffed basketball for a while, and while you do have to realize refs are just people trying to do their job, too (you’d be surprised how terrible and obnoxious parents can be, but most people just look at it from their own teams side without considering the refs side)….I definitely came across other refs (including one of my friends) that would feel challenged/threatened if someone questioned a call or anything and then go out of their way to get the person back….and it’s like…really? I’ve also seen them blatantly favor a side (we reffed home games for the program that hired us), and I’ve just never understood either of those mentalities. Yeah, I messed around a bit when I reffed, it gets boring, and I got sick of getting shit from parents, but is it really that hard to just be objective, the main tenet of the job? (Keep in mind I wasn’t a professional ref or anything)….
by Missing Barry on Mar 16, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I always think Pac-10 refs can get worse
they never cease to surprise me
--Dave
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